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the latest news in the week's top stories the brutal killing of a soldier in london by alleged muslim extremists leaves the u.k. reeling emit a sharp rise in anti muslim hate crimes and security services come under fierce scrutiny. sweden shaken by street nights of unprecedented youth rioting sparked by the police killing of an elderly immigrant. millions take to the streets across the world to protest against biotech giant monsanto is the company's accuser promoting hazardous products and monopolizing food markets.
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for am in moscow i met treasury bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news here on r t britain's were shocked on wednesday by the savage killing of a soldier in broad daylight by suspected islam is in london the country's security services have come in for particular criticism after it emerged that the two suspects had been tracked by m i five for years some reports suggest security services even tried to recruit one of the attackers six months ago nine people arrested in connection with the case the attackers claimed they were motivated by revenge for british military actions abroad or sarah for has more from london. a flag at half mast a grizzly attack with a machete style knife and a murdered soldier his death leaves behind a two year old son the seemingly behind this crease a max seeking to bring scenes of violence usually seen in war ravaged parts of the world to the london suburb of will in a poignant interview r.t. spoke to an army officer he told us of the reaction among some in the armed forces
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to remain anonymous anger of the moment and i'm. not scared scared. you never get someone to. be scared i witness accounts of the priests attack details the men chanting islam is slogans as the body of soldier drama leverage to be a second battalion the royal regiment do you say they only pleading they asked people to d.d.a. then if you listen to the words of the attackers themselves it's clear that they will wish to bring the war which they saw prosecuted on the streets of baghdad in kabul to the streets of london but speaking at a press conference london mayor boris johnson okayed many senior political figures trying to distance this latest act of violence in the case of recent aid to seize exploits this is not a question of blaming the religion of islam it is certainly not
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a question of blaming any aspect of british foreign policy or what our british troops are do in operations abroad when they risk our lives on behalf of all of us the london mayor in charge at the time of the london two thousand and five bombings disagrees they are lying they are completely complicit with the united states policy just like tony blair was with george bush they are prepared to stand and say well we think this strategy has been a disaster it has been just not just for the young man killed on the streets of london but for the hundreds of thousands of. people in afghanistan and in iraq who've been killed a simple reality if you invade other people's countries they come back it's one side of an argument but one that's going to be weighing heavily on many now that this has hit so close to home you feel less secure i think that's one ace. i think if we went out there then perhaps
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a bit more space scope for al qaeda to produce the cells they'd be operate more with you carry because when we're out there with strict space and not allowing that freedom and over them that means the base of operations over here is weaker but also the arguments because we're out there will inspire and the more motivates in the presence of the resource motivating the cells that are back in the u.k. to operate more and carry out more attacks as the police investigation continues a deep sense of self and outrage from the local community here in southeast london at that brutal attack and the sentiment echoed across the country as people struggle to come to terms with how a crime like that could happen here so. london former m i five asian any mission says there is a growing frustration among muslims or deadly western intervention is around the globe individualistic lone wolf style attacks which don't require great planning
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don't require from full specialised equipment or anything will become perhaps one of the main ways that people make protests and it's a horrific attack there is no doubt about it my heart goes out to the family of the victim but what we're looking at is also an angry voice yelling out from north africa the middle east from central asia from all the people live by the interventionist policies of the us of the u.k. of nato or france i mean not just iraq and afghanistan but libya in mali and in yemen and of course what we're looking at is whole countries that's been decimated now by the cia kill lists which are a presidential approved in the u.s. every week and also trying strikes which are not targeted they take a whole villages communities and wedding parties so of course there's going to be anger. the u.k. seen a surge in anti muslim sentiment following the attack far right activists rally in
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several cities clashing with police at times a number of people arrested for racially motivated assaults as well more than one hundred fifty such incidents reported in the u.k. since wednesday's killing earlier this week my colleague bill dodd discussed the reasons behind the violence with the undone editor of politics at u.k. and carlos core tell you from the far right wing british national party. what the immigration the responsible immigration custody eight do is get to us you have get across the u.k. people who find difficulties who will find you to integrate. all right and they don't want a lawyer to find that example it's immigration isn't working it's irresponsible and there isn't enough included in this efficiencies that i give you you know that on so of course the major. major major problem with what he's saying is that his acts of terrorism really conducted by the far right you very generously describe the
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b.n.p. as a right wing party or they're not right wing they're far right they're a fascist party and the acts of violence that they perpetrate against mosques against property the threats against muslims these are also acts of terrorism these are also acts of violence by non-state actors for political means well i got to learn from and i have something to do with my how to help like i said you're going to exaggeration here is done by right wing fanatics and i have to convert us all to the person. the other person who spoke and the signori completely fucked. personally have an open dialogue with muslim communities that recently i had the bait with muslim communities in books in but the city in london about these very issues. for employees. will be foreigners will tell you about the. jewish authorities are racist you should learn about what are
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you know proud of on ok to listen to mr dunn now please what you know i wouldn't don't know we don't know we don't. have websites people from east. from we people from from they. let me really judge their members it also implies a meeting i went. sound some other lunatics who also agree with your demented view of the world however that does not mean that you know what is there what is their mission actually was he is the us all right you had it just a joke just for it isn't it don't you know just aussie short of the british people died there a pull by what's happened they want to stroll response from government they don't want a reaction that could be tempered by fears of political incorrectness what should be done there's going to be some strong reaction surely political correctness really has no connection to where the you have a viable response to a terrorist incident stopping terrorism is about having joined up services for intelligence agencies by the police by mental health authorities by schools by the
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muslim community these are the kind of sensible i don't know use that you take to prevent violence they show us we have a social problem combined with out these us troops foreign policy. these regard for the rights of other countries and of course people who who are leaving in isolation cut more links with the outside world than with it. and when british governments go on the rampage off course they are on green. bay your owing to the nation. meanwhile a manhunt is underway after an apparent copycat attack in paris on saturday where a soldier was stabbed in the neck the suspect reportedly of north african origin and counterterrorism officers are involved the investigation the french president
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though stopped short of linking the attack to the london murder but activists you can't shannon says the violence will be used to demonize muslims and draw attention away from government policies. these type of attacks plays into the strength of the g.o.p. the state to promote a full sense of islam so that is the people of the masses around the world can see wrongly as islam is a disgusting version of the face and in so doing criminalizes all muslims around the world and then they use these groups in asia to conduct the stabilization of the french who go in pretending to be the new to arbitrate is bringing peace and stability and this is a big game or three it's a smoke and mirrors that really has to be distinctive from from a position that is opposing western germany as part of the state strategy is to make sure that everyone is pointing fingers at everyone but the actual traitors of the economic crisis of police corruption or unjust an immoral foreign policy i.e. those in power in france. in sweden the peace of the normally tranquil sten
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scandinavian country was shattered as riots rages in the capital before hitting other cities for the eighth night in a row now use from disadvantaged neighborhoods set fire to cars schools and police stations undeterred by heavy police presence the riots triggered after an elderly man was shot dead by police in an area of stockholm mostly populated by immigrants or teens peter all reports. nice neat and normal not the type of place you would expect to see this. speak on the outskirts of stockholm the epicenter of sweden's issue with a race and that's bubbling over in sweden you get welfare you get access to the education system up to university level you get access to public transport to libraries to health care to everything and still they feel that they need to throw stones and molotov cocktails it's ridiculous it's a bad excuse the violence in the usually peaceful city has become a political football swedish democrats are exploiting these events they make it all
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about immigration to suit their needs they see being anti immigrant as being pro sweden for the past week stone throwing in burning become the norm in this part of town known for its high unemployment predominantly immigrant population all sparked after a sixty nine year old man was gunned down by police while brandishing a knife that let loose a barrage of emotions it's the state what it creates type of ghettoization of men so they move everyone from abroad into these parts of town when it comes to unemployment sweden is below average of almost one quarter of under twenty five out of work prompting some to say it's time for further action saying a lack of control by government has led to the situation the police can put these right down in five minutes if the politicians were to allow them although swedes
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defer over what caused this week's violence they are in agreement that it's government policy that must be changed to avoid scenes like this being repeated on the streets of stockholm peter all of r.t. sweden. here is the syrian conflict could spill over the borders once again being stoked this is the border area of syria lebanon and israel strewn with rocket fire just a day after the hezbollah leader back to saudi in the fight against rebels more on that still to come. but first a wave of protests against monsanto rolled across the globe saturday with as many as two million people voicing their frustration at the corporation people marched in dozens of countries with activists accusing the biotech titan of suffocating small farmers out of business and pushing hazardous genetically modified crops on the market while many are angry of the legal protection a firm receives in a number of nations thanks to extensive lobbying work monsanto itself maintains its
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products in agriculture and conserve resources artie's anastasio churkin has more from new york. throughout the world and in dozens of cities across the united states weekends of action against monsanto takes place were in the heart of the protests in the big apple where hundreds of people have been marching through the streets of the city demanding that monsanto put an end to its action the corporate giant the biotech global giant has been very controversial its existence for over a century accused of genetically engineered and genetically modified food culture and food accused of turning a blind eye on the health consequences of the food that it produces and also immense lobbying powers that it has in washington d.c. for one piece of sleeping in the same bed really with politicians blocking any kind of legislation that would make life for money now months santillan more difficult and promoting and pushing through legislation that protects the rights of this
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biotech giant these companies are manipulating the food chain to their own advantage for monetary gain there's a few people making a lot of money and we deserve to have. better than that there may be no way to fully tackle that machine and even vote which monsanto mud santo and the government are one we have a supreme court justice who is a lawyer for the month sent to corp how much independence do we have really in our government all of these people that have come out onto the streets according to our estimates throughout the world it's hundreds of thousands of people protesting this weekend and now global marches against monsanto what they're demanding is a labeling object and most and also demanding further scientific research into genetically engineered genetically modified products and food and what they're hoping is that these big corporations such as monsanto at least begin to have less
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power and the voice of the people is heard that legislators begin to understand what it is that people want especially in the united states where any kind of significant legislation against monsanto has traditionally been blocked by legislators to say see churkin artsy new york. and over to our web site r.t. dot com for a report on how the day of action against monsanto played out across the world and coming up later a chilling feature here on how even the most traditional foods are being genetically modified take a look. some of these traditional chili lines they've been bred and developed and passed down from generation to. this is a total struction of the culture of new mexico by telling them i mean this this is not going to impact a swelling in mexico whatever happens here. we're not in the in the know in the eighty's in all the wars and so forth. genetically engineered crops why do you think this country is full of obese and sick people because we
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download the official publication to yourself choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorites. if you're away from your television just doesn't go out with your mobile device so you can watch on t.v. any time anyway. nineteen minutes past the hour now on thursday president obama ordered a review of the justice department's investigations of the associated press and fox news the government says it seized journalist records over concerned about the leaking of classified security information this made what's seen as washington's intensified persecution of whistleblowers artie's marine important i reports. he's the australian wiki leaks founder holed up in the ecuadorian embassy on u.k.
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soil and across the atlantic members of the american press corps are learning what it feels like to receive the julian a songe treatment the justice department subpoenaed and obtained the telephone records of the associated press over a two month period without any notice i think about the harm done to the a.p. here you know object of interest to intimidate people who talk to reporters the department of justice wasn't just targeting the associated press apparently it also went after fox news reporter our very own james rosen what you've got here is a situation where somehow now journalism has been criminalized dozens of journalists have been secretly investigated by the justice department for reporting on national security issues government officials secretly obtained reporters' phone logs and personal e-mails trying to find out who leaked classified information to the press even if you side with this president over those of us in the media who challenge him in his administration it is important to remember the precedent these
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actions set going forward perhaps when it's not your guy in the white house the guy currently residing in the white house has prosecuted more whistleblowers under the espionage act than all other administrations combined and now experts say u.s. news outlets are being persecuted just like wiki leaks has been the obama administration has really taken the executive branch powers have been kimmitt dating the free press from under the bush administration and exponentially multiplied them addressing the nation this week the us president said journalists should not be at legal risk for doing their jobs but leakers will pay the price i believe we must keep information secret that protects our operations and our people in the field. to do so we must enforce consequences for those who break the law and breach their commitment to protect classified information however some think the lines are becoming increasingly blurred this is the first time. you know national
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security has been used to get reporters i mean that really is for and try to name because it's usually used to get leakers so if the bomb and ministration releases justice department thinks that they can use criminal laws to get journalists because they're coconspirators i mean honestly that's one of the worst things i've come across and all the years i've been doing this the new yorker magazine has pulled a page from wiki leaks to protect those who want to share something the u.s. government doesn't want revealed it launched an open source dropbox where people can send leaked documents and messages without their identities ever being known the underlying code for strongbox was co-created by our assess inventor and open source activist aaron swartz he committed suicide in january at the age of twenty six while facing a federal trial and thirty five years in prison u.s.
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prosecutors were targeting swartz for downloading millions of online academic articles journalists are employed with the responsibility of informing the public and holding a lectern officials accountable the first amendment of the constitution protects press freedom but all one has to do is look at recent events to know that doesn't always happen reporting from new york. r.t. later this hour we speak extensively about press freedom in the u.s. with the vice chairman of the new york times james gudiya james goodale don't miss the interview coming up shortly. fears the conflict in syria could be spilling over the border once again been stoked as reports of a merger of another cross border incident and the latest exchange a rocket has apparently been fired from lebanon toward israel just hours after two shells landed in a hezbollah controlled area of beirut that attack wounded at least five people in
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the lebanese capital and comes just a day after the militant group reiterated its support for the assad regime despite the free syrian army denying involvement middle east expert alley risk thinks the rebels public statements can't be trusted because they are too divided some members of the free syrian army have denied however there was one official who said that it has been a lot you know its activity will lead to repercussions that would target but you would the northern city of tripoli and beirut's international airport and that perhaps is it in the case of that some of these opposition groups some of these syrian opposition groups are indeed involved in what happened today you have to remember that the free syrian army is in the one block so if one spokesman denies that it might very well be that another opposition armed opposition group which also use the title three free syrian army could have been involved and one of the rockets even landed in they were church and it was on the border between the
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southern beirut and the christian district so obviously this is not an attack on a husband lobbyists or a possible law institution it's a clearly an act of terrorism against the innocent civilians on it and habited area and so i think it just goes to show you the nature of these groups who we are dealing with while on tuesday israeli and syrian government of forces exchange artillery fire across the disputed golan heights as are these policy or a ports there's at least one community in israel that's ready to defend damascus against those who hope to topple the assad regime. we're ready to die defending our people strong words from a chef preparing young men to go and fight in syria except his recruits are not rebel fighters or soldiers in damascus they're israeli druze a minority islamic offshoot we need to go help defend the community in syria and president assad we have relatives there are people are there and they were attacking them in the name of islam the tipping point came after rebels targeted
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the truce village of kind of near the israeli syrian border and killed seven people by the hundreds israeli jews volunteers started signing up short of i would be honored to be the first man who crosses the border to defend the druze community simon why the works of an israeli factory it feels it's only a matter of time before he'll be asked to cross the border into syria. i hope that they won't need us but you can't know what will happen now the situation in the druze villages is stable but if this changes we will go for it we are waiting for the orders from our shakes and we are totally ready for the. israeli jews to live in communities in the gulf and the golan heights after the forty eight and sixty seven war they found themselves cut off from their families in syria after israel occupied the heights those who live here on the israeli syrian border are wizards of his role but see themselves as syrian then loyal to the alawite regime who they
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see as a minority like him selves they live in fear for their families in syria after the rebel of salt on the village we are under attack and are under foreign attack they are using foreign soldiers to fight inside syria and some syrians are helping them . some have other ways to fight back this man goes door to door selling his book about a respected share all the proceeds go across the border. the druze community in israel collected one million dollars and center to the syrian druze from my ability . we collected one million shekels people paid what they could in order to help their relatives in syria the core to fight has not yet been made but as the conflict in syria starts to spread beyond its borders more and more communities are being torn in sam many allegiances here randi and when a relative is killed the test for tatter vendetta is likely to last for years but
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we are just waiting for an opportunity to help and we are ready to give our lives pointlessly r.t. on the israel syria border. reports emerge in the u.k. claiming russia is playing it safe when it comes to defense sales to syria moscow halting a deal to sell advanced aircraft missiles to damascus worth up to a billion dollars out of fear they could fall into the wrong hands and into our web site for more on the aborted deal. bus in japan people rallied outside the south korean newspaper's offices angry at comments it made about the atomic bombings of hiroshima and nagasaki i know what got them so angry at our. news today. again flared up. these are the images the world. treated canada. china before asian to rule the day.
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and still ahead the war on terror rebranded president barack obama gives a major national security speech renewing his promise to close guantanamo bay while defending targeted drone strikes expert opinion still to come. a u.s. senate committee has passed a bill that if signed by obama will allow the u.s. to put a lot of weapons into the hands of syrian rebels this seems rather odd because many of the factions that are revolting seem like bad people to be arming in fact one rebel faction al nasra which according to the guardian is an islamist organization with links to al qaeda is quickly becoming the most powerful rebel faction of all of them the b.b.c. even declared that al nasra has been designated as
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a terrorist organization by the u.s. government itself as it started something like a bad idea to ship weapons into syria on american taxpayers' dollars. yet let's just pretend that somehow all these weapons will magically not fall into the hands of al nasra well the free syrian army isn't much better they seem perfectly happy to use rape and beheadings and genocide against christian alawite minorities with great glee to get what they want arming radical groups always has blowback if you remember back to just the one nine hundred eighty s. the us funded and armed the taliban and those mujahideen fighter guys and look how that turned out the us government seems way too eager to arm radical foreigners and disarm average americans when they should be doing the exact opposite but that's just my opinion.
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of the hour now president barack obama delivered a major speech on the future of the u.s. counter-terror operations this week he pressed for more transparency in drone strikes but defended the program calling it just unnecessary is after washington said for u.s. citizens had been killed in targeted attacks since two thousand and nine author and activist david swanson though thinks the drone program leaves too many unanswered questions. he claims that he is going to further limit his murder by drone program including applying these arbitrary criteria met in secret by himself to his own satisfaction to non americans at least in certain countries countries other than afghanistan. and yet he's not provided publicly any documentation of the claims he's made thus far i mean if if he would rather have captured or a lockie why did he not indict him with with any criminal charges or provide any
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evidence to anyone that he was guilty of any criminal acts this is this is not transparency and if these reforms and limitations are needed on this program then what of the conduct of this program here to for zip not as criminal and abusive as it appears. president obama also renewing his pledge to close the guantanamo bay detention center promising to lift his phrase on transferring detainees to yemen this is the hunger strike at the facility recent reaches its hundred eleventh day more than one hundred prisoners currently taking part currently protesting against indefinite detention an alleged inhumane treatment as many have still not been officially charged one former guard at the prison so this is going to most serious was deeply unsettling some of the some of the tactics that i saw practice in guantanamo i just never really want to wish to relive again omar kotter and a number of other detainees that they were privileged to something we called the
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frequent flyer program where we would essentially move them every two hours whether removing them from camp delta camp echo or moving them from bravo block to charlie block be it a little move or a big idea was that every two hours they would be removed and they wouldn't be able to sleep this was essentially thought to wear down their psyche and make them more . probable to give up information during interrogation the only reason the detainees are being force fed is that the the u.s. military or rather the powers that be are scared that these men have enough conviction to to literally starve to death and they know that if these men do starve to death it will make the u.s. look bad in the global perspective as it stands right now they wasted so many millions of dollars taxpayer money in one hundred but if you just devoted another four hundred fifty million i think that's just perfect evidence right there there's no intention to close up where the. taking a look now at some other stories making headlines from across the globe police used
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tear gas to disperse a hundred fifty thousand protesters at an anti gay marriage rally in the french capital demonstrators say they're angry at the country's new same sex marriage adoption act that came into force a week ago they claim president a law is prioritizing the issue over the economy france now the ninth country in europe to legalize gay marriage. more than sixty people arrested after a violent clashes at a techno music protest parade in the swiss capital burned more than twenty police were injured while officers used water cannons and tear gas on an anti-capitalist group known as the black bloc broke out when protesters tried to tear down temporary barricades blocking the parliament. a secret court in the u.k. has put some people behind bars for trying to take care of their own relatives one woman whose father was pronounced mentally ill was locked away but since the hearings are being behind closed doors it's hard to know why artie's poly boyko takes a look when john maddox was diagnosed with dementia his children ivan and one day
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intended to give him the best cad they could but they clashed with social wakas in their local council which took the family to the secret courts of protection it will that the eighty year old lack the mental capacity to make his own decisions and needed to live in a special kadam he didn't want to be in a home basically told he didn't want to be in a home. he wants either one to go with one to the final who many when i'm swear to god in the conference it's. the court makes rulings on behalf of citizens deemed to one well to be responsible for their own affair as it has power to take control of assets and separate family members all in secret wonder and i even once allowed to take their father out of the state run facility or even discuss his living arrangements with him but he kept on asking me want to go home but i did a lot to tell him that it didn't mean i was any more they got it because with the
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court protection the sickos will do whatever they want with finances in its house what you're going to be locked up in these rooms we can't write. i don't feel free . in order to mount a legal challenge to the secret court ruling wonder took her father to see a solicitor one day tried to draw attention to the case but was sentenced to prison for contempt of the secret court so instead of caring for her father like she wanted to she had to spend two months in here in the company of criminals i cried the first two days i was in the prison i cried because nobody you treated like an ardent criminals in michigan and there you really cannot challenge the question as to whether somebody has mental capacity or not without talking to them and she was in prison firstly for taking her father to see a solicitor in birmingham which makes it sound quite peculiar well in
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a sense it's worse than dr drew conan because draco would not have gone that far when i was in the jail i was frightened because the listening to your phone calls so i was afraid to speak to dad. because i'm the commission's report on is and also about you know in case i got more trouble meanwhile her brother and i even watched their father's health deteriorate under the strain of her absence in the end when we moved into that fire alone that was the end of him and he wanted it wanted still loved him anything i said you got to know this she divorce. she's put herself in prison it. observers say the difficulty with justice behind closed doors is that no one knows if the lore is being followed the evidence is had in private defendants often lack legal representation and i want to allow to publicize that case in essence it is giving the state too much power to intervene in people's lives preventing people complaining about what's being done to them is never right the government's faced
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a barrow of criticism over the practice of secret justice justice secretary chris grayling has said i have written to the president of the court to ask him to look at what steps can be taken to increase transparency while continuing to protect the interest of vulnerable adults but john maddox never got to go to his home or to his family he died in january of this yeah it's war to me what we've done that taken their daughter away from him and i keep wondering what's going on to us when we get older they've got everything. and not safe like. stoke on trent so it's again we talk freedom of the press in the us with the vice chairman of the new york times james goodale stay with us here on r.t. . they all told him a language of war but i will only react to situations i have read the reports for
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unlike the players i know i will leave them to the state department to comment on your latter point please a. secure a car is on the job here no. thank you no more weasel. when you made a direct question be prepared for a change when you run you should be ready for a. freedom of speech and a little on the freedom to watch. wealthy british style. markets why not it's scandalous find out what's really happening to the global economy with max cons or for
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a clear image of iraq after a facial. twenty day taxi trip through the country. the road full of danger. clear evidence from north to south. the root of iraqi tragedy. after the war waiting for peace. talks e l r t. my current guest knows firsthand what it's like to go up against the u.s. government in defense of the first amendment james goodell was general counsel and vice chair of the new york times when the pentagon papers were published and he joins our team now for an exclusive sit down interview mr goodell thank you for
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taking time to speak with me you know i'm glad to be here in your new book fighting for the press inside the story of the pentagon papers and other battles you indicate that president nixon it was out to destroy the new york times but you also argue that if president obama succeeds at prosecuting julian assange he will be worse than nixon for press freedom why so well let me just say one thing about nixon he was out to destroy the new york times he was out to destroy brookings institution a lot of his in the united states. president obama is not out to destroy the times what we're talking about is narrow it's not so narrow but a discrete area which is the relationship of the press to national security pentagon papers case a case about national security now in that area nixon was terrible ok he happened
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to also be heir terrible in the whole first amendment area obama by contrast ok in the first amendment area but not ok in national security why because obama as first of all pursued six leakers that's the for a spat thing he's done a second bad thing he's done is he pursued a guy who got a leak whose name is james ries and now what am i worried about he's also per suing julian assize i say if he pursues julian assize and says julia sonce is a coconspirator. then he'll be and succeeds he'll be worse than nixon because it's and try to pursue the new york times and its reporters saying they were coconspirators nixon failed so while most succeeds where nixon failed you'll be worse than nixon so in this context you if you julian a songe as the publisher similar to the new york times similar to the guardian and
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all the other news outlets that then published what julian a songe disclose through wiki leaks right there saying that it's the same thing if everyone's on the same point it's like if you have a website yourself and you publish this interview you're a publisher u.s. officials maintain that that julian assange compromised national security by publishing classified documents now as you know in america you know sometimes first amendment is trumped by national security issues when information is disclosed that could threaten the lives of soldiers on the battlefield or threaten the lives of americans here at home do you believe honestly that killing or saw a sign should face no consequences whatsoever yes that's right and so why you know the same claims were made about the new york times when the pubs print the papers it was a strong national security it was drawing. so forth and so the first amendment in
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that case trumped. the claim of the nixon administration now here you've got to ask yourself well what is the first amendment blame. the claim is that a son's can be punished if in fact there is no clear and present danger to the country and if you look at the stuff that assigns published. i would argue there's no clear and present danger to the country i mean it's been three years where's the danger i mean you're still here and i'm still here all claims sound terrible when it comes to nasa security but when you look backwards at them which is what i do in my book this is the pentagon papers i look back through the facts of what happened in the pentagon papers and nobody home nothing there no damage now security you have to look at these claims with
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a jaundiced eye because after a period of time you take a look at him and there's no danger as you mention the obama administration has prosecuted more legit leakers than i under the espionage act than all previous administrations combined. do you believe that leakers such as bradley manning should be subject to some discipline yes i do and i would think that if you work for this organization you start leaking their secrets you probably ought to be fired i think every organization ought to have a control over its employees and therefore i think that bradley manning should be disciplined and i think that the twenty years to which he's agreed probably probably is a good good sentence i think the question with bradley manning right now is easy agreed to twenty and the government wants to give him life and i just wonder whether that's appropriate but i do believe every organization should be able to discipline its employees ok then.
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