u.k. armed forces admit to holding dozens of suspected militants without charge at a british base in afghanistan now the public and parliament want to know why they were kept in the dark over the detentions. you want to fishes and top diplomats urged britain and france to drop their plans to supply weapons to the rebels in syria while opposition factions accuse each other of betraying the revolution. and jobless and in jeopardy leaders warn that the blocks seven point five million young unemployed need work soon or they will be driven into the arms of extremism.

this is r.t. coming to you live from moscow a marina joshie welcome to the program britain's confirmed it's holding up to ninety afghan nationals at its camp bastion base in afghanistan without charge it's thought some have spanned more than a year in detention but the ministry of the fan says it will be ready to hand over the prisoners to local authorities once all the legal obligations are met lawyers still say the u.k.'s acted unlawfully drawing a parallel with america's notorious guantanamo bay sarah firth has a story. u.k. lawyers who are acting on behalf of some of these detainees speaking out they've launched a legal action saying that some of these men have been held for up to fourteen months and that this amounts to a little detention now the rules dictate that british forces are only allowed to hold detainees the ninety six hours unless there are exceptional circumstances the

last november we saw the defense secretary. change the rules at a halt the transfer of detainees captured by britain's treats to afghan security forces after there were concerns that they would be abused or tortured british troops that are looking for a safe harbor wait for transfer of these detainees the safety of british troops also it comes into this these men who are being held some of the notorious some of them have links to involvement with i.e. days so i think really making the point here that these are dangerous individuals if you present a direct threat which is cheap so if you listen to what the lawyers have come out and say they've used that word secret facility and they've actually said that it's reminiscent of the public's awakening that there was a ground based the u.k. law is has been very clear here that parliamentarians did not know about this that this was not known to the british public so you've got the defense secretary on the

one side saying you know this is very different. in a number of very important respects predominantly that this is for the detainees own protection and also that this wasn't a secret that the people have known about it and this is being spoken about and you've got the u.k. lawyer saying you know hang on a second absolutely not this was a secret facility and this is the public awakening now. now first the u.k. defense secretary said that transferring the prisoners could endanger troops now the government seems to have different ideas also more on this we're now joined live by jim brann of the stop the war coalition jim thanks very much for joining us here on r t so how would you explain the change in attitude towards these prisoners . well if we believe the british government they say. they have captured these eighty five men and according to their rules they're supposed to when they have finished interrogating them for up to ninety six hours

or slightly more in exceptional circumstances but just slightly over ninety six hours when they finish the interrogation they ought to let them go or hand them over to the afghan authorities or the british government claims that they have to by and handing them over to the afghan authorities because of the what they say is the dangerous treatment which i think in many cases we consider they. describe as torture because there is widespread talk to the british government says that because it's bottom of the talks conventionally commanding them over it has to keep them but it has no basis to keep them not least under the geneva conventions for example so then it just declares for itself the right to keep them because it declares there is some danger from them they say there is evidence that they are threat to british troops or local people and that puts the british government in the same position as the u.s. government regarding guantanamo i don't think this is really you know jim i'm sorry

for interrupting you so what's the likelihood that these prisoners will actually be handed over now that you compared. this facility in afghanistan to america's guantanamo which you know america promised a number of cajuns to shut down but that amounted to nothing so far so why should those british jail them be different. while i suppose the only real difference is that unless they're forced by pressure they will keep them as long as possible because they say they can hand them over and they don't want to let them go so in that sense it's the same as going to mars suppose the only difference is that it is because it is limited to the afghan war and because british troops are supposed to stop being there in a combat role at least within a year and a half time then i suppose the british government would say well it must come to an end in a year and a half time in which case it will hand them over to the afghan authorities in which case it will put itself in danger of violating the torture convention so it's got itself into a bind of its own making i think so how come the british parliament was unaware of

the detention center for so long i'm not sure if the defense secretary specifically obliged to mention that but he certainly hasn't apparently there's no mention in the parliament poll and i suppose that means that the parliamentary committees have not done their job because i think sufficient questioning would have discovered this fact about these detainees but certainly the defense secretary hasn't mentioned it and there is this room britain called parliamentary sovereignty and problem and to supposed to be sovereign so that's where the issue of contempt of parliament comes from. now prime minister david cameron called the afghan mission a success back at the end of twenty twelve final mistake you know how much of a blow to his credibility is there at this revelation and. i'm afraid there is nothing there is really nothing that any british or american politician can say

regarding the afghan mission. makes any sense at all i can show you a speech by donald rumsfeld if you remember him literally ten years ago saying that their job would be simply to train afghan forces and then leave and ten years later they're saying exactly the same thing so yes it i'm sure it will be for the blow to credibility i think from the british government point of view they just hope that any opposition will keep quiet and the thing will blow over i don't think they have any other choice but to keep their fingers crossed all right i credibility is shot anyway our jim brann of the stop the war coalition thank you so much for being with us here on r.t. well earlier i spoke to rosa curling a lawyer of one of the detainees who is sad the government has repeatedly declined her firm access to her client. my client is

a young man these approximately about twenty years old he is married with one daughter he's afghan and that's not going to we have been instructed by his brother and by his uncle because he was captured and chained by the brits in august last year two thousand and twelve and today he is still clinging to pain by them so nine months on his uncle and brother are starts to find out why he was being detained and to try to get access to him so we can provide him with legal advice so far we have still not been able to gain access to our client and we still haven't been able to speak to him we were sent to the government we've asked them to make sure we can speak to him and so far they've refused but because of their refusal we have to apply to the u.k. courts here and ask the court to order the u.k. government to give us access we can see no lawful basis on which this our client is

being detained by the u.k. government and the u.k. authorities in afghanistan and that's why we have made an application to the court the hague be a school course application asking him to for him to be brought to court and to be released and explain on what basis the u.k. government is stating that they can continue to detain him he has had no charges given against him as far as we're aware and as i said we've had no access to mature . and here in our team will tell you later how the past masters of secret detention have been tracked so that you can see what they've been doing anyone with internet access when the where in how the cia is rendition victims have been transferred over spawn and lifts the lid shortly. more countries are joining the chorus of warnings against lifting the e.u. arms embargo on syria which expires on friday and after some european officials voiced their concerns canada's foreign minister has said giving weapons to the

rebel forces will only lead to more death and destruction the u.n. human rights chief has after the statement but britain and france maintain they'll have the right to start arming the syrian opposition and washington backing them russia though says that annie such moves will be in violation of international law and that it's the lifting of the. could derail next month syrian peace conference in geneva or more details are now from artie's marie of course not. the united states is showing no concern over the expiration of the e.u. arms embargo on syria which is set to lapse in the coming days the deputy spokesperson for the state department patrick than travel says that washington welcomes this step because it would give greater flexibility of specific e.u. member states to support the opposition as they see fit now of course that greater flexibility means that countries like britain and france will be able to ship arms and ammunition to to the opposition groups in syria which would then use possibly

in an effort to overthrow the government and really even went on to say easing the e.u. arms embargo sends a message to syrian president bashar al assad that support for the opposition will only increase but the u.s. meanwhile is sending its own messages of double standard let's remember that washington has been fiercely critical of russia's transfer of anti-aircraft aircraft missiles to the assad government now while moscow is maintained that it has been fulfilling defense weapons contracts that were signed long ago with syria washington believes that it's wrong for for moscow to fulfill any contracts because civil war is taking place there and whatever contracts russia is fulfilling could be used to inflame the conflict taking place there but yet now the u.s. is welcoming all possible flow of arms to the syrian rebels with this e.u. arms embargo on syria expiring now it's also worth noting that just a few weeks ago u.s.

secretary of state john kerry was in moscow he traveled there and pledge that the u.s. will work closely with russia and the bloodshed in syria kerry and foreign minister sergey lavrov and sergey lavrov underscored their commitment to the communique signed in june last year which calls for a transitional government to be established in syria that includes both sides but how can the international community get to the point if european union members with the. support of the u.s. are now considering to actually flood syria with even more arms experts believe that our being the syrian rebels will ignite an arms freeze in that country and so far according to the un the conflict there has claimed the lives of more than eighty thousand people and if more weapons flow into the country to arm the syrian rebels this crisis because of the could of course of the exacerbated even further. meanwhile the syrian opposition has split along

a fresh cold line meeting rebel factions inside the conflict zone have slammed the exiled umbrella group called the syrian national coalition for failing to represent the revolution and the s. and c. itself has still not decided whether it will go to geneva next month reaction now from a markoff from the syrian social club a political campaign group in london thank you so much sir for joining us here on r t well after more than two years of the syrian conflict the question still remains why is the opposition still unable to come together and speak with one voice. in a sense. there has been always a split between those who claim that their present the syrian revolution hashmi those who have the power on the ground to mobilize people up with weapons on the ground to destabilize in this region and basically you know the power on the ground

and the that sort of you know split was sort of underground so far there has been so my view is you say that the word should be for those who are in the trenches not for those who are in the hotels but after the you know the fear that was leaked a couple of days it before these. you know french ambassador should rally reprimanding you know very harshly down soon opposition figures in istanbul for failing to achieve you know what they were want to do to achieve this video was very damaging and immediately those who are on the ground who control others on the ground tried to distance themselves probably from. that humiliating the new york position by seeing you know the national coalition is only adding figures and and people but these people these figures and people you know there are two presenting the revolution on the ground and we're going to get to

a final war. the syrian national coalition or as and see is recognized by dozens of nations as a sole representative of us here in people so how much credibility does a really have inside the country. well those says the star i mean when certain a certain segment of sirius decided to go to the streets and it will be decided to carry weapons against the state there have been traditionally certain political figures who have been outspoken against the government for the new some of them actually decades and those people assume that they are in a leadership position in order to deal with. the uprising but actually what happened was that you know. they were actually trying to catch up with those people on the ground all the time twenty representations so now we don't know exactly what they told us that community and those. governments that actually

recognize them probably they told them that they have the right neutral by hand and they can influence matters on the ground but who's clear from the very beginning that there was a sort of that reason being is that whatever you said it was politicians was not going to grab for example. this is a revolution for freedom democracy is that there should be good but only for that was there some of that there were quite a few you know banners lifted of islamic nature of and about sufi nature and we had for example the you know. if you are going to zation it recently and those people who were so small leading. out to even. you know this inglese or someone as the danger the harm. to their cause lijun and indeed their chief said this is part and parcel of the syrian revolution so

they are very all right well that was a marwood hard member of the syrian social club community in london thanks so much for your views of our program there. and more news coming your way when we come back after a short break stay with us. they played a family jazz band together. hijack a plane together. let's send them some music to tara. twenty five years old the question still remains. just bad hijack. they all told me about language as well but i will only react to situations i have read the reports and like the

pollution i know i will leave them to stapling to comment on your latter point to save lives to carry out a car is on the job here no guns. no thank you no more weasel words. when you made a direct question be prepared for a change when you know you should be ready for a bad. freedom of speech and little doubt the freedom to. welcome back you're watching are transferring terrorist suspects to secret prisons was supposed to be a strictly cia only affair or not anymore now you just need to hit the internet log on to solve the dark puzzle of its global rendition now work thanks to two british universities have skin ops planes. written dition revealed from now on you can

learn exactly how the cia has been secretly transferring its war on terror detainees across the globe on civic and military aircraft something better known as the rendition program researchers from britain scan university and kingston university have compiled an extensive flights database by going to their indiction project dot gov dot u.k. you can see a detailed graph of more than eleven thousand cia flights performed from two thousand and one to two thousand and six not all of them have been confirmed to have had detainees on board some of those which are marked in blue are described as dummy flights there are also flights which were labeled as highly suspicious meaning there is no substantial evidence that they were transporting suspected terrorists in certain cases there were website designers have ample proof of detainees travel the full route is described on the map like this one of the suspected al qaeda competent diver who has been locked up in guantanamo for a decade without any charges we can see on the map how he was transported from thailand where he spent eight months in detention after being called to the united arab emirates and then to poland almost

a year later he was shifted to guantanamo in that year he spent at the cia black site in poland by the claims he was water boarded eighty three times but how exactly do the masterminds of this project gather the information and what goals they're trying to pursue we'll find out with one of the masterminds of the project mistruth blakeley from the camp university in england many thanks truth for joining us here on my first question would be how exactly you are gathering information on these flights and where did you find to manage all the data. ok most of the information that we have was already in the public domain but was quite frank mentored so we've worked closely with a number of human rights organizations and human rights investigators to bring all of that information so it comes from freedom of information requests and some of it comes from investigative investigations into particular cases including legal proceedings on behalf of some of that is how. we've relied very heavily on the work of the u.k. legal action charis and reprieve which has represented some of the men who are

still held in guantanamo bay without charge or trial. what is the point of all this project what are you trying to achieve and what message are you trying to send out . a main aim was to try and map the global rendition system to try and provide as comprehensive a picture as possible of how many doesn't have rendition took place which countries were involved and how the cia managed to hide individuals in their system as it transported them around the world to hold them in prisons where they could be tortured and interrogated and our purpose therefore is to shed as much light as possible on the system with a view to assisting human rights investigators and human rights lawyers to defend the rights of those people who picked him systems processes thank you so much mr blakeley this was a likely from kent university now that that's a breeze currently holds more than eleven thousand flights information about them and the masterminds of the website are asking anyone who has any valuable

information on these flights to contribute. and international a trio of space travelers has arrived safe and sound boosting the station's crew to six all we've got pictures of the spectacular liftoff at r.t. dot com was and fell on the new team members and they are on board plans plus. a record breaking jump marking sixty years since the first human ascent of mount everest hold your breath and had to do our you tube channel for breathtaking video of the dive from earth highest peak. europe's facing dire warnings over its soaring youth unemployment rate labor and finance ministers from the largest nation say that if no action is taken now an entire generation could fall by the wayside well seven point five a million people under the age of twenty five are out of work across the blog the figures are particularly alarming in southern europe youth unemployment in greece

and spain is now over fifty percent the president of france where more than a quarter of youngsters are jobless has warned out the situation is becoming dangerous francois hollande spoke of anger and hatred brewing among young people while their governments fail to improve their prospects economist dr stephen davis told us that the situation is a ticking time bomb. it's actually a minor miracle that this hasn't led to more serious social and political unrest that it has already one of the things that history tells us is that lots of unemployed young men is a very very dangerous situation that's the kind of thing that historically could lead to really serious trouble not just in terms of say for example rising crime but also serious civil disorder or political problems of one kind or another really big cause for the very high rates of unemployment in general amongst young people in particular is the catastrophic effects of the euro and all of the attempts being made the desperate attempts that are being made that is to keep it going what

really needs to be done is changing labor market regulations throughout europe which are making it very difficult and very expensive to employ young people supply side reforms that side won't cost of pennies but they would bring about significant improved transfer young people about a million of britain's jobless our young people even those who graduated from college are struggling to get the most basic employment s. point boyko now reports. i have been trying for a while now pretty much every day just humming seabees the rounds going on the computer for a couple of hours a day trying to get anything because i want a job because i want to be able to look you know i'm earning this money which you know no one does kind of knock me down every time i kind of go and think i really would like to do this and i've got this interview and. i got a mile or a phone call saying how the door knocks me down to go and see like some places my

c.v. probably hasn't actually been seen if i'm going to get someone for a job that they know ten times but they're going to give it to me very soon jennifer nash the college paper six months ago she's one of almost a million meets in the u.k. not in employment education or training i kind of always you know be difficult but i didn't really think i would be out of work but still the opposition labor party says the number of jobless young people has almost tripled since the coalition came to power in a bid to combat use on employment the government launched its huge contract a one billion pounds scheme to provide new opportunities to eighteen to twenty four year olds but it hasn't helped i know that john and sons i shed loads of see the. you know i know from person experiences lot what's wrong with me the swell of young people trying and failing to make it on to the job ladder has led to talk of

a generation lost to austerity not just in britain but in the whole of recession hit europe the president of the year b. and central bank has even called on governments to tackle the issues before it leads to social unrest youth unemployment is one of the biggest problems facing britain right now we have nine hundred fifty eight thousand young people unemployed that's one in five out of work for more than a year when you are young you will earn less. the rest of your life can you imagine applying for jobs every day and getting rejected what that does to your self-esteem feel confidence be yourself young people who forked out thousands of pounds for a degree of finding the reality of recession hit britain a bitter pill to swallow i feel the fact though i've gone to university i've gained an internship so i shouldn't really be in this position i might die i've done everything society has told me to. i'm still finding it very difficult to find employment it's very scary because at this time of year and

a new bunch of graduates is going to hit the job market so that particularly worries me as i am going to be competing movie for more people in a couple of months i do feel like i'm kind of stuck at the moment is not really much i can do have them i'm already tense trying to out for jenna and others and britain's lost generation the outlook has never been so uncertain. something will turn up i'm a great believer in but you know. hopefully polyploid ati. on the way had decade after foreign forces stormed into iraq we'll take you on a tour across the war torn country. wealthy

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