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u.k. armed forces admit to holding dozens of suspected militants without charge at a british base in afghanistan now the public and parliament want to know why they were kept in the dark over the detentions. one of fishelson top diplomats urged britain and france to drop their plans to supply weapons to the rebels in syria while opposition factions accuse each other of betraying the revolution. plus jobless and in jeopardy leaders warn that of walk seven point five million young unemployed need work soon or they'll be driven into the arms of extremism.
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which you might see coming to you live from the russian capital at seven pm here a marina joshing welcome to the program how britain's confirmed it's holding up to ninety afghan nationals at its camp bastion base in afghanistan without charge it's thought some have spend more than a year in detention the ministry of defense says it will be ready to hand over the prisoners to local authorities once all the legal obligations are met but lawyers still say the u.k.'s acted unlawfully during a parallel with america's notorious going tunnel bay so refers has a story. u.k. lawyers who are acting on behalf of some of these detainees speaking out they've launched a legal action saying that some of these men have been held for up to fourteen months of that and that this amounts to a little detention now the rules dictate that british forces are only allowed to hold detainees the ninety six hours unless there are exceptional circumstances the last november we saw the defense secretary. change the rules at
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a halt the transfer of detainees captured by britain's treats to afghan security forces after there were concerns that they would be abused or tortured british troops that are looking for a safe harbor wait for transfer of these detainees the safety of british troops also it comes into this these men who are being held some of the notorious some of them have links to involvement with i e d's so i think really making the point here that these are dangerous individuals if you present a direct threat a keeper to streets if you listen to what the lawyers have come out and say they've used that word secret facility and they've actually said that it's reminiscent of the public's awakening that there was a groundswell of a base the u.k. lawyers have been very clear here that parliamentarians did not know about this that this was not known to the british helpless so you've got the defense secretary on the one side saying you know this is very different. in
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a number of very important respects predominantly that this is to the detainees own protection and also that this wasn't a secret that people have known about and this is being spoken about and you've got the u.k. lawyers saying you know hang on a second absolutely not this was a secret facility and this is the public awakening now or earlier i spoke to rosa curling l. lawyer of one of the detainees who said the government has repeatedly declined her access to her client. my client is a young man these approximately about twenty years old he is married with one daughter. and that's not going to we have been instructed by his brother and by his uncle because he was captured and chained by the brits in august last year two thousand and twelve and today he is still going to take him by them so nine months on his uncle and brother are starts to find out why he was being detained and to try to get access to him so we can provide him with legal advice so
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far we have still not been able to gain access to our client and we still haven't been able to speak to him we've written to the government we've asked them to make sure we can speak to him and so far they've refused but because of that refusal we have to apply to the u.k. courts here and ask the court to order the u.k. government to give us access we can see no lawful basis on which this our client is being detained by the u.k. government and the u.k. authorities in afghanistan and that's why we have made an application to the court the hague be a school close up look nation asking him to for him to be brought to court and to be released and be explained on what basis the u.k. government is stating that they can continue to detain him he has had no charges given against him as far as we're aware and as i said we've had no access to the tools. of the u.k. defense secretary have previously said dad to transferring the prisoners could endanger troops and detainees themselves british anti-war campaigner jim brann says
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the u.k. military has put itself between a rock and a hard place. because government says it because it's by and by under the torture convention for manning them over it has to keep them but it has no basis to keep them not least under the geneva conventions for example so then it just declares for itself the right to keep them because it declares there is some danger from them they say there is evidence that they are threat to british troops or local people and that puts the british government in the same position as the us government regarding guantanamo clearly the idea that the british authorities are expressing that they have a right to decide how long to hold somebody because of the potential threat that they hold not because of something they've specifically done or anything that they're charged with simply for. the potential threat that the british authorities themselves declare the prisoners to be in that sense it's very much like one
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phantom zero in fact it's exactly the same as guantanamo. well we'll tell you later here in r t how the past masters of secret detention have been tracked so that you can see what they've been doing anyone with internet access can see you when you learn how the cia is rendition victims have been transferred. lifts the lid shortly here in our team. more countries are joining the chorus of warnings against lifting the e.u. arms embargo on syria which expires on friday after some european officials voiced their concerns canada's foreign minister has said giving weapons to the rebel forces will only lead to more deaths and destruction the u.n. human rights chief has killed the statement britain and france maintain they all have the right to start arming the syrian opposition and washington's backing them russia though says that and he's such moves would be in violation of international law that the lifting of the e.u. bargo could do rail next month syria peace conference in geneva more details are
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now from. the united states is showing no concern over the expiration of the e.u. arms embargo on syria which is set to lapse in the coming days the deputy spokesperson for the state department patrick ventrell says that washington welcomes this step because it would give greater flexibility of specific e.u. member states to support the opposition as they see fit now of course that greater flexibility means that countries like britain and france will be able to ship arms and ammunition to to the opposition groups in syria which would then use possibly in an effort to overthrow the government up and then went on to say that easing the arms embargo sends a message to syrian president bashar al assad that support for the opposition will only increase but the u.n. meanwhile is sending its own messages of double standard let's remember that washington has been fiercely critical of russia's transfer of anti-aircraft aircraft missiles to the assad government now while moscow's maintained that it has
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been fulfilling defense weapons contracts that were so. signed long ago with syria washington believes that it's wrong for for moscow to fulfill any contracts because civil war is taking place there and whatever contracts russia is fulfilling could be used to inflame the conflict taking place there but yet now the u.s. is welcoming possible flow of arms to the syrian rebels with this e.u. arms embargo on syria expiring now it's also worth noting that just a few weeks ago u.s. secretary of state john kerry was in moscow he traveled there and pledged to the u.s. will work closely with russia and the bloodshed in syria kerry and foreign minister sergey lavrov and sergey lavrov underscored their commitment to the communique signed in june last year which calls for a transitional government to be established in syria that includes both sides but how can the international community get to that point if european union members
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with the support of the us are now considering to actually flood syria with even more arms experts believe that our being the syrian rebels will ignite an arms race in that country and so far according to the un the conflict there has claimed the lives of more than eighty thousand people and if more weapons flow into the country to arm the syrian rebels. crisis because it could of course be exacerbated even further and while new fractures are appearing within the syrian opposition leading rebel factions have slammed the syrian national coalition and exiled umbrella group for failing to reprise and the revolution and the coalition itself is yet to decide whether it will take part in the geneva peace conference next month while iran is hosting its own international conference on syria bringing together officials from around forty countries. let's now get some insight from tehran based political
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analyst professor mohammad has done county thanks very much for joining us here on our team so iran has voiced its support for international peace talks on syria expected to be held next month in geneva now why has a run decided to hold its own conference on this issue. of the cure since the beginning of the crisis and what has been for finding a real peaceful solution for this conflict and if you ignore the topic the title of this gathering to iran today it's political so crucial for syria iran georgia not a step pretty which means two things. together if the fruit can find a political solution there will be no religion on the stability in the near future so iran has been voicing this is just nothing just only that you didn't want to
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help you i mean there are so many countries are on board including washoe the child you know or who aren't you to understand what if that situation in syria on a flood they are talking for a real this will solution arming the opposition is something that just really. bore syndicates and it's blown to the international law to be international system order . this is something very important the european being there always for a plan in these kind of solution their political solution for the conflict and deede well russia and the you know as have said it's up to the syrian people themselves to decide their own future so if that is true can anything be achieved by the decisions of foreign powers in your opinion. definitely not the only decision for syria should come from within syria and i would like to shed light on what is happening in syria you know this is the first time in the current
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international system real are now witnessing that a bond if the groups who are oppositions who have a central government and equipped by these weapons just imagine what kind of war people will have if we just do the same thing to the rest of the war of course there are so many oppositions groups in so many contrary as well who have been the moral we've decided all and all of them with weapons that would be what's new like a jungle not a supervised war while britain france has been are gearing up to supply the rebels with arms with u.s. backing so if those plans do go we had one diplomacy efforts and be rendered meaningless. yeah but that would be a travesty of the blow again to all the international air force to find a peaceful solution for the city or in case i don't hold it there or wise people to
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please not you do nothing this is i'm looking to want to know that there has been harsh criticism from different parties both in the us and also into this country is criticizing. me just for example i remember dr henry kissinger wrote that if we interfere in syria and does shaping got fashion got to be at the end of the. international order which means that all of those most people that see that. disposition this poll see is not working but it will just lead to more bloodshed on what i think what's hot now in syria is basically the results of miscalculation boy and i did the studies on this and while there are moves on some bridge and all progress such as turkey day that you stuck your vision about how soon it would topple the assad regime bring them to this there was
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to be and did as you can people are paid a price. well at this point i'd like to thank you very much for being with us here in the program that was tehran that was professor mohammad hassan khani joining us from tehran. how we get out of her julian assange has been holed up in the door an embassy in london for almost a year and just a few minutes we'll look out what ecuador's government thinks about its long term guest situation. and with one for young people in europe out of work we report from britain where the steadman job market is leaving new graduates with no outlet for their skills that's coming up shortly here on r t. engulfing the neighborhood syria's civil war to spread across the border into lebanon hezbollah defiantly promises victory over sod's enemies indeed it would appear hezbollah interest intend to steadfastly stand by their ally in damascus the
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welcome back this is our transferring terror suspects to secret prisons was supposed to be a strictly cia only affair not anymore now you just need to log onto the internet to solve the dark puzzle of its global rendition network thanks to two british universities explains. written dition revealed from now on you can learn exactly how the cia has been secretly transferring its war on terror detainees across the globe on civic and military aircraft something better known as the rendition program researchers from britain scan university and kingston university have compiled an extensive flights database by going to their indecision project dot gov dot u.k. you can see a detailed graph of more than eleven thousand cia flights performed from two thousand and one to two thousand and six not all of them have been confirmed to have had detainees on board some of those which are marked in blue are described as dummy flights there are also flights which were labeled as highly suspicious
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meaning there is no substantial evidence that they were transporting suspected terrorists in certain cases there were website designers have ample proof of detainees travel the full route is described on the map like this one of the suspected al qaeda competent diver who has been locked up in guantanamo for a decade without any charges we can see on the map how he was transported from thailand where he spent eight months in detention after being called to the united arab emirates and then to poland almost a year later he was shifted to guantanamo in that year he spent at the cia black site in poland by the claims he was water boarded eighty three times but how exactly do the masterminds of this project gather the information and what goals they're trying to pursue we'll find out with one of the masterminds of the project mistruth blakeley from the kent university in england many thanks truth for joining us here my first question would be how exactly you are gathering information on these flights and where did you find to manage all the data. ok most of the information that we have was already in the public domain but was quite frank
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mentored so we've worked closely with a number of human rights organizations and human rights investigators to bring all of that information so it comes from freedom of information requests and some of it comes from investigative investigations into particular cases including the legal proceedings on behalf of some of that is how. we feel are very heavily on the work of the u.k. need that action charis and reprieve which is represented some of the men who are still held in guantanamo bay without charge or trial. what is the point of all this project what are you trying to achieve and what message are you trying to send out . main aim was to try and match the global rendition system to try and provide as comprehensive a picture as possible. however and titian took place which countries were involved and how the cia managed to hide individuals in the system as it transported them around the world to hold them in prisons where they could be tortured and
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interrogated our purpose therefore is to shed as much light as possible on the system with a view to assisting human rights investigators and human rights lawyers to defend the rights of those people who've been victims of these processes thank you so much mr blakeley this was a likely from kent university now the database currently holds more than eleven thousand flights information about them and the masterminds of the website are asking anyone who has any valuable information on these flights to contribute and you're facing dire warnings over its soaring youth unemployment rate labor and finance ministers from the largest even nations say that if no action is taken now an entire generation could fall by the wayside well seven point five million people under the age of twenty five are out of work across the block the figures are particularly alarming in southern europe where you saw employment in greece and spain is now over fifty percent the president. france where more than a quarter of youngsters are jobless has warned out the situation is becoming
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dangerous francois hollande spoke of anger and hatred during among the young people while their governments fail to improve their prospects economist dr stephen davis told us that the situation is a ticking time bomb it's actually a minor miracle that this hasn't led to more serious social and political unrest that it has already one of the things that history tells us is that lots of only employed young men is a very very dangerous situation that's the kind of thing that historically could lead to really serious trouble not just in terms of say for example rising crawl in but also serious civil disorder or political problems of one kind or another really big cause for the very high rates of unemployment in general amongst young people in particular is the catastrophic effects of the euro and all of the attempts being made the desperate attempts have been made that is to keep it going what really needs to be done is changing labor market regulations throughout europe which are making it very difficult and very expensive to employ young people supply side
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reforms that side won't cost of penny but they would bring about significant group transfer young people now about a million of britain's jobless are young people even those who've graduated from college are struggling to get the most basic employment as point boyko now reports . i have been trying for a while now pretty much every day just humming seabees the rounds going on the computer for a couple of hours a day trying to get anything because i want a job because i want to be able to look you know i'm earning this money to go on which you know no one does kind of knock me down every time i kind of go and think i really would actually like to do this and i've got this interview and. i got a mile or a phone call saying i have a job. and stay like some places my c.v. probably hasn't actually been seeing if i'm going to get someone for a job that they know ten times but they're going to give it to me very soon
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jennifer nish to college for six months ago she's one of almost a million meet in the u.k. not in employment education or training i kind of always you know be difficult but i didn't really think i would be out of work but still the opposition labor party says the number of jobless young people has almost tripled since the coalition came to power in a bid to combat use on employment the government launched its huge contract a one billion pounds scheme to provide new opportunities to eighteen to twenty four year olds but it hasn't helped i know that john the sons i shed loads of see the. applications and you know i know from person experiences lot of what's wrong with me the swell of young people trying and failing to make it on to the job ladder has led to talk of a generation lost to austerity not just in britain but in the whole of recession hit europe the president of the year b. and central bank has even called on governments to tackle the issues before it
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leads to social unrest youth unemployment is one of the biggest problems facing britain right now we have nine hundred fifty thousand young people unemployed that's one in five out of work for more than a year when you. less for the rest of your life can you imagine applying for jobs every day and getting rejected what that does to your self-esteem feel confidence be yourself young people who forked out thousands of pounds for a degree and finding the reality of recession hit britain a bitter pill to swallow i feel the fact though i've gone to university i've gained an internship so i shouldn't really be in this position i wiped off i've done everything society has told me to. i'm still finding it very finding true and it's very scary because at this time of year and a new bunch of graduates is going to hit the job market so that particularly worries me as i'm going to be competing movie for more people in
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a couple of months i do feel like i'm kind of stuck at the moment is not really much i can do have them i'm already trying to out for jenna and all those and britain's lost generation the outlook has never been so uncertain. something will turn up on my quite believe. but you know. flare polyploid r.t. . always supposed to be julian assange just a temporary asylum address but it's nearly a year or since you moved into aqua doors on london embassy now the country's foreign minister has lashed out of the u.k. saying it's abusing a songes human rights britain won't guarantee the whistleblower safe passage to ecuador which granted him political asylum last august that we can leaks founder faces sex crime charges in sweden but fears it's
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a cover to extradite him to america well it's now discuss this with one of his supporters the journal journalist vaughan smith. mr smith thanks for joining us here on the r.t.s. similar opinion what are the chances that these comments from such a senior figure in ecuador will be heard in london. i'm afraid i don't think they will be not i'm very sad about that because i think there's a miscarriage of justice going on. what what's happened unbelievably the british government to spend about four and a half million pounds with policemen outside the ecuadorian embassy i think we forget you know it could all just have a diplomatic relationship with brazil and i think we shouldn't we should respect their wish to give a song's political asylum so what would be their reaction then in london and if we can just make such a speculation. so the reaction of i think they would ignore it and i suspect that
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the british government wishes to please the americans in this matter and i think that will be their primary. requirement and none the americans i don't think will be very please if mr song is allowed to go to ecuador as he should be allowed to when i want to take a look at the other side i'm in ecuador on the one hand granted asylum to a songe a but if ecuadorian government is so outrageous the situation was that joined us on why doesn't it take further measures diplomatically and internationally so i would i can't i can't you can't say it's also thought that through an embassy i mean i think they've been very very supportive i'm not clear what they can do and i understand they're doing everything they can to resolve the matter. well if. this case supposedly staines britain's human rights records when one in such a vocal critic of such of violations abroad why isn't the u.k. bothered them by the criticism that comes from broad. oh i think it's just several
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reasons one because our relationship with america is clearly paramount and the americans have it in for so. i they they want to get him and they you know it i don't think they're going to give him i think that's part of it but also i think the western media has portrayed mr solmes i think unfairly and i think public opinion has been impacted to an extent by that and i believe that's happened because mr saunders threatens the established press i mean the established british american and some european press enjoy the role of patrolling the information they don't really want an australian you know x. factor to come on the scene i want the respect to be has been and he has been very effective while of course of this point everybody wonders what's next for a son. because i mean the. british he said he was expecting to wait six months to a year or the embassy and we also know that american government sources say the
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u.s. has not issue criminal charges against him nor made any attempts to extradite him so why does the sun's then just head to sweden and prove innocence he's so sure very briefly because our. no i'll be ok i think i don't. consists of being entirely truthful about this there's evidence that they've got so hostile to two thousand pages of documents against him so i do i think it's reasonable for us to believe that a song is justified in being fearful of being sent to america and i feel in this case that the swedes should and could have done something if they were really genuine about this to reassure him that they've done nothing they don't nothing to reassure him in this extraordinary kids up right sir thanks very much indeed for your thoughts journalist ron smith joining us here on our team thank you very much . and up next who's winning in syria and how is it affecting the region that's crosstalk next on r.t.
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