why from moscow day u.k. armed forces to holding dozens of suspected militants without charge at a british base in afghanistan now the public in parliament what know why they were kept in the dark over the detention. u.s. officials and top diplomat surge britain and france to drop their plans to supply weapons to the rebels in syria one opposition factions accuse each other of betraying the revolution. jobless and in jeopardy e.u. leaders warn that the blocks seven point five million young unemployed need work soon all be driven into the arms of extremism.

and over again even if the choice is kevin i would no doubt th key to nine first is ours i just mentioned. britain's confirmed it's holding up to ninety afghan nationals has come past in base in afghanistan without charges though some spend more than a year in detention the minister of defense says it will be ready to hand over the prisoners to local authorities once all the quote legal obligations of met but lawyers still say the u.k. has acted unlawfully nonetheless drawing a parallel with america's notorious guantanamo bay sarah first got the story tonight. kalo is here acting on behalf of some of these detainees speaking out they've launched a legal action saying that some of these men have been held for up to fourteen months and that this amounts to a little detention now the rules dictate that british forces are only allowed to hold detainees to ninety six hours unless there are exceptional circumstances the last november we saw the defense secretary. changed the rules that

a hold the transfer of detainees captured by britain's streets to afghan security forces after there were concerns that they would be abused or tortured a british troops that are looking for a safe harbor wait for transfer of these detainees the safety of british troops also comes into this these men who are being held some of the notorious some of them have links to involvement with i e d's so i think really making the point here that these are dangerous individuals if you present a direct threat with the streets if you listen to what the lawyers have come out and say they've used that word secret facility and they've actually said that it's reminiscent of the public's awakening that there was a ground based the u.k. law is has been very clear here that parliamentarians did not know about this that this was not going to the british helpless so you've got the defense secretary on the one side saying you know this is very different. in

a number of very important respects predominantly that this is the detainees protection and also that this wasn't a secret that people have known about and this is being spoken about and you've got the u.k. lawyers saying you know hang on a second absolutely not this was a secret facility and this is the public awakening now just really it's an honor code greta just she spoke to rosa curling she's a lawyer of one of the detainees who said the government repeatedly declined their access to her client. my client is a young man he's approximately about twenty years old he is married with one daughter he's afghan and that's not going to stand we have been instructed by his brother and by his uncle because he was captured and chained by the brits in august last year two thousand and twelve and today he is still going to take him by them so nine months on his uncle and brother are starting to really find out why he was being detained and to try to get access to him so we can provide him with

legal advice so far we have still not been able to gain access to our client and we still haven't been able to speak to him we've listened to the government we've asked them to make sure we can speak to him and so far they've refused but because of that refusal we have to apply to the u.k. courts here and ask the court to order the u.k. government to give us access we can see no lawful basis on which this our client is being detained by the u.k. government and the u.k. authorities not against it and that's why we have made an application to the court the hague be a school course application asking him to for him to be brought to court and to be released and be explained on what basis the u.k. government is stating that they can continue to detain him he has had no charges given against him as far as we're aware and as i said we've had no access to him the tool. reaction of british labor m.p. brigade joining us on the line from london either barrie many questions have come

up now about the secrecy of what was going on here a cow busted. question first off the juno about what was going on there or did you find out about it from the news outlets. now i found out from the news outlet but i do understand that it has been on the minister of defense website for some time that there were people who were being held there so we put it another way i'm not surprised i don't know. what i do recognize is that there has been a request on the behalf of some of the men who are being detained by their lawyers but they are not true at least because if they were released to the afghan authorities there was a fear that they would be tortured here for a specific request came from the words saying that the british authorities should not release them now that obviously presented a very serious problem for for the army in helmand because these were men who they had reason to believe should be tried through the courts process and under the

arrangement that's in place in afghanistan that is the proper place for it they should be tried in the afghan courts but given that there was a suspicion that they might be tortured if they were released into afghan custody some of the men made a specific request that their lawyers did by the british government from doing that so i think there is a much more complicated process than the lawyer that you spoke to may have just suggested let me just get this straight in my own head who is deciding whether these guys stay at camp bastion or not without charge who's making that decision. well ultimately it would be the secretary of state for defense and my understanding is that he has now tried because the lawyers for these men said that they didn't want them to be handed over to the afghan authorities which would be the normal way of processing them people who have been found to be detained by the british authorities and are believed to have been active in gauge ment's or conspiracy

against british personnel they would normally be handed over because they couldn't be because they might be tortured in that situation what's been happening is that. the ministry of defense has been working closely to put in place in afghanistan appropriate procedures and oversight of some of the court facilities there that's what are they given any manzi are released into afghan detention apparently yes it's taken quite a long time to put this in place and clearly that's a very disturbing position to be in nobody wants these men to be being held in this way they should be tried and processed if they if they're found innocent they should be released and if they're found guilty obviously they should be detained or given whatever the appropriate sentence would be so i think everybody wants these these men out of the detention that they're in present the key thing is that they could not be released under their own request because they might have been tortured

and therefore we had to put special measures in place to ensure things are that they may have been tortured well the request of course came from the men's own lawyers so it was their specific request they believe that there was a risk of the being tortured they must have presented i presume credible evidence of that and that was taken seriously by the secretary of state in the u.k. and he then said well ok we understand that we don't want to release people who might be at risk of being tortured because britain is in principle absolutely against torture but we do need to ensure that there is a proper judicial process that these men who we have captured and detained are subject to the normal legal process and we have to put in place a process to ensure that that can happen but which maintains the safeguards they're not tortured to but of course there's another caveat here as well is that the ministry of defense says these prisoners will be transferred quote as soon as the

obligations are upheld what does that mean one of those obligations they're talking about what could that time delay be. yeah i suspect those are obligations within the afghan judicial system and i don't know precisely what that phrase refers to but my understanding is that within the next few days the british authorities hope to have that that judicial process available with appropriate scrutiny and oversight so there is no risk of torture to these individuals but at the end of the day there are echoes surely of guantanamo here these guys know what and what the reasoning is and you've outlined it clearly for us but i need to put it to you get they're being held without charge aka guantanamo. well they're being held without charge but not without an end to the process and don't forget that these men have requested themselves that they be not processed in the normal way so

it's not as if this is this is a case where the british authorities are holding these men and in for night and with no way of releasing them in fact the men themselves have said we don't want to be released into the afghans custody because we're afraid of torture and the british have responded by saying ok we except that but we're simply not going to release you back out into the community where we believe you may be then involved in further attacks on british soldiers and british personnel we will ensure that there is a proper process that you can be taken to a judicial process where you will get a reasonable. appearance within court a reasonable trial without any risk of torture and that's what we've been working to put in place and as i understand it that's what is now close to being realized so i don't accept the parallel with grand tandem aubut i do agree that it is a very distressing matter that these men have been in detention for so long and

that it has not yet been brought to a judicial conclusion barycenter explained that so clearly british labor m.p. thanks so much. a bit later in the program we'll tell you the past masters of secret detention have been trucked so that you can see what they've been doing anyone with internet access can see where and where and how to save for additional victims have been transferred a correspondent lives to lead the children into. next the war countries are joining the chorus of warnings against lifting the e.u. arms embargo on syria which expires on friday after some european officials voiced their concerns canada's foreign ministers said giving weapons to the rebel forces will only lead to more death and destruction the only rights chief second the statement to but britain and france maintain very will want the right to start arming the syrian opposition washington's backing the russian though says that any such moves would be in violation of international law and that the lifting of the

would do rail next month's syria peace conference in geneva would details smarties minor point three united states is showing no concern over the expiration of the e.u. arms embargo on syria which is set to lapse in the coming days the deputy spokesperson for the state department patrick ventrell says that washington welcomes this step because it would give greater flexibility of specific member states to support the opposition as they see fit now of course that greater flexibility means that countries like britain and france will be able to ship arms and ammunition to all to the opposition groups in syria which would then use possibly internet for to overthrow the government control even went on to say that easing the e.u. arms embargo sends a message to syrian president bashar. opposition will only increase but the u.n. meanwhile is sending its own messages of double standard let's remember that washington has been fiercely critical of russia's transfer of anti-aircraft

aircraft missiles to the assad government now while moscow's maintained that it has been fulfilling defense weapons contracts that were signed long ago with syria washington believes that it's wrong for for moscow to fulfill any contracts because civil war is taking place there and whatever contracts russia is fulfilling could be used to inflame the conflict taking place there but yet now the u.s. is welcoming possible flow of arms to the syrian rebels with this e.u. arms embargo on syria expiring now it's also worth noting that just a few weeks ago u.s. secretary of state john kerry was in moscow he traveled there and pledge that the u.s. will work closely with russia and the bloodshed in syria kerry and foreign minister sergei lavrov and sergey lavrov underscored their commitment to the communique signed in june. which calls for a transitional government to be established in syria that includes both sides but

how can the international community get to the point if european union members with the support of the u.s. are now considering to actually flood syria with even more arms experts believe that our being the syrian rebels will ignite an arms race in that country and so far according to the u.n. the conflict there has claimed the lives of more than eighty thousand people and if more weapons flow into the country to arm the syrian rebels the crisis because of it could of course be exacerbated even further. meanwhile new fractures are appearing within the syrian opposition leading rebel factions of slam the syrian national coalition an exiled umbrella group accusing it of failing to represent the revolution and civil wars also in cross border repercussions to the hezbollah members reportedly sent more reinforcements into syria to fight alongside government forces there the armed opposition threaten to retaliate against hezbollah unless the intervention stops and in lebanon itself clashes are

continuing between back is and opponents of syrian president bashar assad is closer to beirut to speak to journalist ali hashem to get his reaction either ali what why has hezbollah decided to weigh in and support the syrian regime and as a matter of fact it's known that there is a very big bond between hezbollah and the syrian regime has a lot. regards the syrian regime as its own backyard and it's also the place or the country we're more stuff has will laws come through what's also. a main strategy has will light was so during the past wars with israel during the israeli occupation of lebanon from one thousand nine hundred eighty two till two thousand two thousand also hezbollah with a lot of weapons and arms and. gave political support during to two thousand and

six israeli. war on lebanon so. sees syria as a strategic ally. interested in saving this regime because. according to what they say they see that this regime is the only regime in the arab world that is facing israel and is ready to support the resistance. fighters and is hezbollah's actions likely to raise the threat of a broader regional conflict. as a matter of fact the situation right now in lebanon it's. the syrian civil war already spilled out into lebanon and this is very clear when we look towards what's happening and tripoli. pro fighters are militants fighting against. militants and it's a kind of small syrian war going on in tripoli and so this this is one the

politics you know all. confrontations right now in lebanon you know today the mini's parliament is about to agree on extending the term of the parliament deliver his government isn't able to organize the elections that was. expected just on the thirteenth of june just weeks from now so this really i'm sorry to lebanon. we're about to lose a lot and you actually. had to go black from a beirut this we're going to interrupt thanks ever so much for being on the program we'll try to get but you for more for the chat bit later in the journalist in beirut. if you stay with us more news continues after the break snow coming up to eighteen minutes past eight muska time.

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hello again transferring terrorist suspects to secret prisons was supposed to be a strictly cia only affair but not anymore now you just need to log onto the internet to solve the dog puzzle of its global rendition network thanks to two british universities election explain this a little more now. written dition revealed from now on you can learn exactly how the cia has been secretly transferring its war on terror detainees across the globe on civic and military aircraft something better known as the rendition program researchers from britain scanned university and kingston university have compiled an extensive flights database by going to their indiction project dot gov dot u.k. you can see a detailed graph of more than eleven thousand cia flights performed from two thousand and one to two thousand and six not all of them have been confirmed to have had detainees on board some of those which are marked in blue are described as

dummy flights there are also flights which were labeled as highly suspicious meaning there is no substantial evidence that they were transporting suspected terrorists in certain cases there were website designers have ample proof of detainees travel the full route is described on the map like this one of the suspected al qaeda competent diver who has been locked up in guantanamo for a decade without any charges we can see on the map how he was transported from thailand where he spent eight months in detention after being called to the united arab emirates and then to poland almost a year later he was shifted to guantanamo in that year he spent at the cia black site in poland by the claims he was water boarded eighty three times but how exactly do the masterminds of this project gather the information and what goals they're trying to pursue you will find out with one of the masterminds of the project mistruth blakeley from the camp university in england many thanks ruth for joining us here on my first question would be how exactly you are gathering

information on these flights and where did you find to manage all the data. ok most of the information that we have was already in the public domain but was quite frank mentored so we've worked closely with a number of human rights organizations and human rights investigators to bring all of that information so it comes from freedom of information requests and some of it comes from investigative investigations into particular cases including needle proceedings on behalf of some of that is how. we feel are very heavily on the work of the u.k. need that action terrace and would prefer which is represented some of the men who are still held in guantanamo bay without charge or trial. what is the point of all this project what are you trying to achieve and what message are you trying to send out. her main aim was to try and map the global rendition system to try and provide as comprehensive a picture as possible of higher and higher rendition took place which countries were involved and how the cia managed to hide individuals in their system as it

transported them around the world to hold them in prisons where they could be tortured and interrogated and our purpose therefore is to shed as much light as possible on the system with a view to assisting human rights investigators and human rights lawyers to defend the rights of those people who are victims of these processes thank you so much mr blakeley this was a break from kent university now the database currently holds more than eleven thousand flights information about them and the masterminds of the website are asking anyone who has any valuable information on these flights to contribute. correspondent. gina son she was only supposed to stay in ecuador's london embassy for a few months but now nearly a year old the country's foreign minister is accusing the u.k. of abusing her son's human rights because it won't guarantee a safe passage to asylum in ecuador that we can expand our faces sex crime charges in sweden but fears it's a cover to extradite him to america supporter and journalist smith says london will

be phrased but i could always would. i'm afraid i don't think they will be i'm very sad about that because i think there's a miscarriage of justice going on the british government which is to please the americans in this matter and i think that will be their primary requirement and now the americans i don't think will be very pleased if mr sanders allowed to go to ecuador as he should be about what's happened unbelievably the british government has spent about four and a half million pounds with policemen outside the ecuadorian embassy i think we forget you know they could all just have a diplomatic relationship with brazil and i think we shouldn't we should respect their wish to give assad's political asylum you know there are lots of people have lots of views on mr sands are i know him extremely well he stayed with me for thirty months in my house and he's certainly not a quitter he's not going to give up on this i'm not completely sure. europe's facing darr warnings over its soaring youth unemployment rate finance labor

ministers from the largest to unite in the say they have no actions taken now an entire generation could fall by the wayside seven point five million people under the age of twenty five an hour to work across the block the figures are particularly alarming in southern europe youth unemployment in greece and spain now over fifty percent meantime the president of france where more than a quarter of young says the jobless as one of the situation is becoming dangerous land spoke of anger and hatred brewing among young people while the government's failed to improve their prospects economists talk to stephen davis told us that the situation he worries is a ticking time bomb. it's actually a minor miracle that this hasn't led to more serious social and political unrest than it has already one of the things the history tells us is that lots of only employed young men is a very very dangerous situation that's the kind of thing that historically could lead to really serious trouble not just in terms of say for example rising crime but also serious civil disorder or political problems of one kind or another really

big cause for the very high rates of unemployment in general amongst young people in particular is the catastrophic effects of the euro and all of the attempts being made the desperate attempts at being made that is to keep it going what really needs to be done is changing labor market regulations throughout europe which are making it very difficult and very expensive to employ young people supply side reforms that side won't cost a penny but they would bring about significant group transfer young people a so you spacecraft carrying the next to the international space station successfully docked to be orbiting lab up there all the mission details now than for montessori sushi it was at said law. we can now feel there's a vibration underneath our feet and here comes the launch right now. and they go the three man crew up to the i.s.a.'s another flawless soyuz launch here from the baikonur cosmodrome on the cassock step the three man crew with american karen nyberg this a second time heading up to the i assess at the new comer look up out of mcdonald

the italian from the european space agency his first adventure up to the opening space lab and the whole crew being commanded by the russian soyuz come on the field so to go to chief and they're going to be heading up there in fact they approach it they reach all that in less than a nine minutes talk about going far beyond any speed of supersonic that is going to be what they call the fost track that is a full obit ring around and then a six hour flight straight to docking with the other three crew members of the international space station for the next six months they'll be conducting on approximately one hundred and fifty experiments ranging from issues to do with bio fuel and clean energy they called maintenance to do as well numerous suspect small space walks are included in it this team for the international space station could still went well be mounted break in the set next don't take.

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about the murder of a british soldier on a busy london street just keeps getting weirder and weirder see over the weekend abouta saw a childhood friend of the murder suspect gave an exclusive interview to b.b.c.'s newsnight and in it he gave some startling revelations and salva claims that the british intelligence agency m i five tried to recruit michael. the guy in the video with the blood in his hand six months ago adding that he had been subject to harassment by the agency but that's not all and sob also claims that his friend was tortured and sexually assaulted while the taint in kenya perhaps under the supervision of the u.k. government which he attributes to a bit of a large nose radicalization and in a final bizarre twist you saw what was.