the. tonight u.k. armed forces admit to holding dozens of suspected militants without charge at a british base in afghanistan now the public in parliament will know why they were kept in the dark over the detention. un officials and top diplomats britain and france to drop their plans to supply weapons to the rebels in syria while opposition factions accuse each other of betraying the revolution. and joe blow's and in jeopardy e.u. leaders warn that the block seven point five million young unemployed work soon all they'll be driven into the arms of extremist.

kevin owen here tonight in our top story britain's confirmed it's holding up to ninety afghan nationals at its camp bastion base in afghanistan without charge it's thought some of spent more than a year in detention the minister of defense says it will be ready to hand over the prisoners though to local authorities once all the quote legal obligations are met but lawyers still say the u.k. has acted unlawfully drawing a parallel with america's notorious kuantan m obey sisera first reports. kalo is here acting on behalf of some of these detainees speaking out they've launched a legal action saying that some of these men have been held for up to fourteen months and that this amounts to a little detention now the rules dictate that british forces are only allowed to hold detainees for ninety six hours unless there are exceptional circumstances the last november we saw the defense secretary. change the rules at a halt the transfer of detainees captured by british streets to afghan security

forces after there were concerns that they would be abused or tortured a british troops are now looking for a safe harbor wait for transfer of these detainees the safety of british troops also comes into this these men who are being held some of the notorious some of them have links to involvement with i e d's so i think really making the point here that these are dangerous individuals if you present a direct threat achieved with the streets if you listen to what the lawyers have come out and say they've used that word secret facility and they've actually said that it's reminiscent of the public's awakening that there was a ground based the u.k. law is has been very clear here that parliamentarians did not know about this that this was not known to the british helpless so you've got the defense secretary on the one side saying you know this is very different to guantanamo bay in a number of very important respects predominantly that this is to the detainees

protection and also that this wasn't a secret that people have known about and this is being spoken about and you've got the u.k. lawyer saying you know hang on a second absolutely not this was a secret facility and this is the public awakening now rosa curling said lawyer for one of the detainee she told me she's pretty strong to get a hold of her client who's been the target charge for close to a year now. i don't it's a young man these approximately about twenty years old he is married with one daughter and he's afghan and that's not going to stand we have been instructed by his brother and by his uncle because he was captured and chained by the whips in august last year two thousand and twelve and today he is still clinging to pain by them so nine months on his uncle and brother are starts to find out why he was being detained and to try to get access to him so we can provide him with legal

advice so far we have still not been able to gain access to our client and we still haven't been able to speak to him we've written to the government we've asked them to make sure we can speak to him and so far they've refused but because of their refusal we have to apply to the u.k. courts here and ask the court to order the u.k. government to give us access we can see no lawful basis on which this our client is being detained by the u.k. government and the u.k. authorities in afghanistan that's why we have made an application to the court the hague be a school course application asking him to for him to be brought to court and to be released and be explained on what basis the u.k. government is stating that they can continue to detain him he has had no charges given against him as far as we're aware and as i said we've had no access to him the tool will support the british labor party m.p. or barry gardner he gave his thoughts on why it's taken this are to such a long time to transfer the prisoners to the local authorities. people who have

been found do have been detained by the british authorities and are believed to have been active in gage ment's or conspiracy against british personnel they would normally be handed over now because they couldn't be because they might be tortured in that situation what's been happening is that the ministry of defense has been working closely to put in place in afghanistan appropriate procedures and oversight of some of the court the solidities there so that these men can be released into a grander tension apparently yes it's taken quite a long time to put this in place and clearly that's a very disturbing position to be in nobody wants these men to be being held in this way they should be tried and processed if they if they're found innocent they should be released and if they're found guilty obviously they should be detained or given whatever the appropriate sentence would be so as to for international first commentator jonathan steele from britain's guardian newspaper who says there are

similarities between gun tamil and camp bastion in that very little is known about what's going on then. i think that it's a disgrace and it's also very bad that the united nations which has been able to probe in all the afghan police stations and detention facilities and its huge reports on mishandling of detainees the un does not have access to the british or indeed american to tension cities the only part scientists who do the international committee of the red cross and as you know they have a policy of not talking publicly about individual cases so whatever they found quite to themselves not to themselves they have discussed it with the british government but not to the wider public and some lawyers have compared camp bastion to guantanamo are they the same or rather fundamentally different as you see it one similarity is the lack of access to the lawyers the lack of information the indefinite detention whatever the conditions are like even if they're not being

tortured by the british they are being held in an internal limbo with no access to lawyers family or anybody how justifiable is that sovereignty is. well it's not just fog a little. very ought to be charged or released. and still speaking to me they're pretty sure it's not we'll tell you how the past masters of secret detention of being tracked themselves so that you can see what they've been doing anywhere with internet access can see when where and how the cia's or dishes victims have been transferred or corresponded lifts the lid been shortly. but next more countries are joining the chorus of warnings against lifting the e.u. arms embargo on syria which expires on friday as well as european officials concerns now canada's foreign minister is warning that giving weapons to the rebels will only lead to more death and more destruction and sentiment was echoed by the u.n. human rights chief but britain france maintain that come friday they will have the right to start arming the syrian opposition it comes amid

a new split within the anti assad camp two leading rebel factions of slammed the syrian national coalition annex elder brother group accusing it of failing to represent the revolution and the civil war is also having cross border repercussions the rebels have threatened to retaliate against lebanon's hezbollah for intervening in syria on the side of assad for some observers a region wide sectarian war is looming now. the syrian civil war already spilled out into the lebanon and this is one of the. things that happened this was that this is one of the incidents the two the two rockets that hit the stronghold of hezbollah in the southern suburb this might be one of the question of the one is is asking and always has well also going to take in this way it's not only that the rockets are. it's also obvious that as much as tens of rockets have hit. the northeastern city of her mel and it's another stronghold

of his well law. killing at least two or three lebanese and wounding tens of them so the situation is getting more tense day after day and it's expected to get more more tense than this according to sources here in beirut they are feel it's real fears that extremists who are fighting alongside with the syrian rebels might tend to do you know car bombs in beirut and this is something that everyone fear maybe in regulation to what's going on meanwhile iran is hosting its own international conference on syria brain together officials from around forty countries the stated aim is to broker a diplomatic solution to the two year conflict professor mohammad marandi in toronto me some foreign power scuttling peace efforts but backing the radical rebels. iran from the very beginning was saying that the government the syrian government should reform itself there should be free and fair elections

the ryans were the ones who accepted of the plan the iranians were the ones who also accepted the geneva talks and the results and the declaration that came from that but it was every time it was the the west's in its and the oil rich dictatorships in this region that are remoting extremism that wrecked the talks so what the iranians are saying basically is that the fighting has to end the two sides have to come to some degree an agreement to have. elections free and fair elections with foreign monitors from across the world to make sure that there is no manipulation of the elections the reason why the united states in the europeans don't want this and the saudi regime don't want this is because they're pretty sure that their people will not win free and fair elections and most probably the majority of syrians from alt sects and religions alarm would probably vote for the current president and that is why the americans and the europeans have gone so far

in supporting it groups in this country which ultimately will blow up in their own face i mean the blog that we we will see blowback from this horrific policy of western regimes written has been written by an angry ecuador which says westminster is trampling on the human rights of the sublime jewel in the sound of you why just a few minutes from now. transferring terror suspects to secret prisons was supposed to be a strictly cia only affair but any more now you just need to log on to the internet to solve the dark puzzle of its global rendition network thanks to two british universities and ski explains. written dition revealed from now on you can learn exactly how the cia has been secretly transferring its war on terror detainees across the globe on civic and military aircraft something better known as the rendition program researchers from britain scan university and kingston university

have compiled an extensive flights database by going to their indiction project dot gov dot u.k. you can see a detailed graph of more than eleven thousand cia flights performed from two thousand and one to two thousand and six not all of them have been confirmed to have had detainees on board some of those which are marked in blue are described as dummy flights there are also flights which were labeled as highly suspicious meaning there is no substantial evidence that they were transporting suspected terrorists in certain cases there were website designers have ample proof of detainees travel the full route is described on the map like this one of the suspected al qaeda competent diver who's been locked up in guantanamo for a decade without any charges we can see on the map how he was transported from thailand where he spent eight months in detention after being called to the united arab emirates and then to poland almost a year later he was shifted to guantanamo in that year he spent at the cia black site in poland by the claims he was water boarded eighty three times but how exactly do the masterminds of this project gather the information and what goals

they're trying to pursue we'll find out with one of the masterminds of the project mistruth blakeley from the kent university in england many thanks ruth for joining us here on my first question would be how exactly you are gathering information on these flights and where did you find to manage all the data. ok most of the information that we have was already in the public domain but was quite frank mentored so we've worked closely with a number of human rights organizations and human rights investigators to bring all of that information so it comes from freedom of information requests and some of it comes from investigative investigations into particular cases including legal proceedings on behalf of some of that is how. we rely very heavily on the work of the u.k. need that action charis and reprieve which has represented some of the men who are still held and granted in my bed without charge or trial. what is the point of all this project what are you trying to achieve and what message are you trying to send

out. a main aim was to try and map the global rendition system to try and provide as comprehensive a picture as possible of how many have rendition took place which countries were involved and how the cia managed to hide individuals in their system as it transported them around the world to hold them in prisons where they could be tortured and interrogated and our purpose therefore is to shed as much light as possible on the system with a view to assisting human rights investigators and human rights lawyers to defend the rights of those people who think terms of these processes thank you so much mr blakeley this was written from kent university now the database currently holds more than eleven thousand flights information about them and the masterminds of the website are asking anyone who has any valuable information on these flights to contribute. during the surge was only supposed to stay in ecuador's london embassy for a few months but nearly a year all of the country's foreign minister is accusing the u.k.

of abusing a sundress human rights because it won't guarantee you safe passage to asylum in ecuador we can leak found a face to sex crime charges in sweden but fears it's a cover to extradite him to america supporter and journalist paul smith told us london won't be phrased though by ecuador's words. i'm afraid i don't think they will be not i'm very sad about that because i think there's a miscarriage of justice going on the british government wishes to please the americans in this mess and i think that will be that primary requirement and none the americans i don't think will be very pleased if mr assad is allowed to go to ecuador as he should be about what's happened unbelievably the british got to spend about four hockey million pounds with policemen outside the ecuador embassy i think we forget they could all just have a diplomatic relationship with person and i think we should we should respect that wish to give songs political asylum you know there are lots of people have lots of

views on mr songs i know him extremely well he stayed with me for thirteen months in my house and he said you know to quit he's not going to get on this i'm not completely sure he's not you know is what about you know coming tried to sound as trouble journey from he's a straight home into a saddam center up there could or an embassy also that you cannot show the episodes of the weak link found his own talk show a day they are now t. while he was on the british home so rest. they came they took off but he talks to the next edition to the international space station is now an obit after a successful launch from the kazakhs steps the pictures of a trip here very shortly. played in a family jazz band together. hijacked a plane together. most of them from music to tara.

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europe's facing dire warnings over soaring youth unemployment rate labor and finance ministers from the largest to you nation to say that if no action is taken now an entire generation could fall by the wayside say look how it shapes up seven point five million people under the age of twenty five and now to work across the block these figures particular in the south in southern europe their youth unemployment in greece and in spain over fifty percent meantime the president of france where more than a quarter of youngsters a jobless has warned that the situation is becoming dangerous francois spoke of anger and hatred brewing among young people while they governments fail to improve their prospects economist dr stephen davis told us that the situation he worries too is a ticking time bomb. it's actually a minor miracle that this hasn't lead to more serious social and political unrest and it has already one of the things that history tells us is that lots of only employed young men is a very very dangerous situation that's the kind of thing that historically can lead

to really serious trouble not just in terms of say for example rising crime but also syria's civil disorder or political problems of one kind or another really big cause for the very high rates of unemployment in general amongst young people in particular is the catastrophic effects of the euro and of the attempts being made the desperate attempts that are being made that is to keep it going what really needs to be done is changing labor market regulations throughout europe which are making it very difficult and very expensive to employ young people supply side reforms that side won't cost a penny but they would bring about significant group transfer young people and about a million of britain's jobless a young people even those who graduated from college is struggling to get the most basic employment as artie's. been trying for a while now pretty much every day just coming seabees the rounds going on the computer for a couple of hours a day trying to get anything because i want a job because i want to be able to look you know i'm earning this money if. you

know no one does kind of knock me down every time i kind of go and think i really would like to do this and i've got this interview and. i got a phone call saying. it's madonna and say like some places my c.v. probably hasn't actually been seen if i'm going to get someone for a job but they are ten times but they're going to give it to me very soon jennifer nash the college paper six months ago she's one of almost a million meet in the u.k. not in employment education or training i kind of always be difficult but i didn't really think i would be out of work this little opposition labor party says the number of jobless young people has almost tripled since the coalition came to power in a bid to combat use on employment the government launched its use contract a one billion pounds scheme to provide new opportunities to eighteen to twenty four

year olds but it hasn't helped i know that john and sons i shed loads of see the. you know i know from person experiences lot of what's wrong with me the swell of young people trying and failing to make it on to the job ladder has led to talk of a generation lost to austerity not just in britain but in the whole of recession hit europe the president of the year being central bank has even called on governments to tackle the issues before it leads to social unrest youth unemployment is one of the biggest problems facing britain right now we have nine hundred fifty thousand young people unemployed one in five out of work for more than a year when you were young you will earn less for the rest. applying for jobs every day and getting rejected what that does to your self-esteem feel confidence feel self-worth young people who forked out thousands of pounds for a degree of finding the reality of recession hit britain

a bitter pill to swallow i feel the fact though i've gone to university i've gained an internship so i shouldn't really be in this position i have lived off i've done everything the society has told me to. i'm still finding it very difficult to find employment it's very scary because at this time of year and a new bunch of graduates is going to hit the job market so that particularly worries me as i'm going to be competing movie for more people in a couple of months i do feel like i'm kind of stuck at the moment is not really much i can do have them i'm already tense trying to out for jenna and others and britain's lost generation the outlook has never been so uncertain. something will turn up i'm a great believe or not but you know. hopefully

polyploid ati. all of news in brief now and the man suspected of stabbing a french soldier last week may have acted on his religious beliefs now from prosecutors who spoke shortly after police arrested a suspect in a paris suburb who was identified through fingerprints surveillance footage shows a man reciting a muslim prayer just minutes before attacking the assaults thoughts of being inspired by the murder of a british soldier in london a few days earlier by men shouting islamist slogans. a land grab protestors turned violent in cambodia as capital it left three campaigners unconscious they were among a crowd is demanding better compensation for the land they were evicted from by the government four years ago to make way for commercial development and disputes and corruption of worsened in cambodia with heavy police reactions towards protests in rural areas. the us military claims to have killed the deputy chief of the pakistani taliban in a drone strike in the country's troubled north waziristan province the attack

targeting a house reportedly left seven dead it comes just days before pakistan's new elected government takes over one of the major pledges of the incoming leadership has been to put an end to u.s. drone strikes. in eastern afghanistan insurgents have attacked a red cross building in the city of jalalabad it's left a security guard dead local officials said a suicide bomber blew himself up at the gate before two armed insurgents entered the complex bugs were killed in the ensuing gun battle and security forces the total number of casualties remains unclear all seven foreign nationals working for the red cross in jalalabad have been evacuated now. a soyuz spacecraft carrying the next crew of the international space station successfully docked at the orbiting lab it earlier today all the mission details no than for marty's weary sushi it was at the launch. we can now feel there's a vibration underneath our feet and here comes the launch right now.

like you know it's going. to. be a go the three man crew up to the i.s.a.'s another flawless soyuz launch here from the baikonur cosmodrome on the cassock step the three man crew with american karen nyberg this a second time heading up to the i assess at the new comer look up at me down over the italian from the european space agency his first adventure up to the opening space lab and the whole crew being commanded by the russian soyuz come on the field or if you're a chief they going to be heading up there in fact they approach all but they reach all of it in less than nine minutes talk about going far beyond any speed of supersonic that is going to be what they call the fast track that is for all bit ring around that then a six hour flight straight to docking with the other three crewmembers at the international space station for the next six months they'll be conducting on approximately one hundred and fifty experiments ranging from issues to do with bio fuel and clean energy they called maintenance to do as well numerous speaks wall

space walks are included in this team for the international space station you're already enjoyed one of the best jobs of the year he said to us. it is good that we all got there in one piece all safe well that's the business twenty six minutes past the ten at night we were reporting the length of the dyess state of unemployment amongst europe's young the youth the data that's come out isn't particular encouraging either is it now or not really doesn't really bode well for the prospects of the european recovery but there might be an advantage to all this find out what it is and their business will aftershocks and when the thing they say is near or after the break. engulfing the neighborhood syria's civil war is right across the border into lebanon hezbollah defiantly promises victory over such enemies indeed it would appear hezbollah interests intend to steadfastly stand by their ally in damascus

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dot com. twenty eight minutes past ten pm here in the russian capital you're watching the business program with me. germany's unemployment in the may jump to four times more than anticipated raising serious doubts about europe's economic recovery and that's the fourth straight month that the number of jobless is growing so is germany's europe's largest economy any sign of trouble there could spell the continued weakness for the eurozone as a whole i asked my anger and analysts said b g c partners in london if germany's latest jobless data indicates that the european recovery is on very shaky ground and not just in the periphery. you know i would say so and i've argued for a number of months that i didn't necessarily buy into the view that we would see a significant turnaround in the european economy during the course of this year and

i think you continue to see you know disappointing numbers. for most of europe and in fact if there was a volume over the last month or so you've had slightly softer numbers germany certainly you know this this unemployment number is one of them but also the fact that the last. survey was extremely weak france on the flip side of that was actually slightly better than expected but overall it's been a very very weak picture with the. what if germany europe's strongest economy is struggling do you other countries have a chance at recovery. well i think everybody has a chance but you know we exist in a global economy and you know it's unreasonable to expect one country to however strong to swim against the tide i mean. you know a year or two ago there seemed to be no stopping china it was growing at ten

percent plus and now everybody's concerned that maybe they're not going to grow eight percent maybe it's only going to be seven percent so it's a job is done remarkably well over the last few years one could even say to some extent they've benefited from the crisis because of course we've had the sort of safe haven flow of funds within the euro zone into countries such as germany you know easing credit conditions even more but i mean germany cannot. defy gravity and if the global economy remains in trouble that's going to impact germany and actively well actually some economists say that the rising unemployment in germany is actually a good thing and they are given goes that it will make german policymakers a last righteous and more tolerant when it comes to other european countries easing on austerity would you agree with that i actually think there's a large degree of truth in that sort of of course they're never going to admit it i think it's interesting that the austerity debate within the eurozone became far

less specific verse once the signs of slowdown were clear within germany and of course you've heard today from the european commission that you know spain is going to extra two years to meet its budget deficit target france about another two years in the netherlands go got another another year so yes i think you know there is a lot of truth in what you say there so you think there is an actual chance that the german policymakers will change their tune now i think it's already happening although it's you know if you like germany's been. calls to ease up on the whole the sterett. you know mantra kicking and screaming really but it's probably just as well you know fiscal policy is playing some part in cushioning the negative economic impact post financial crisis because you know my view would be that the e.c.b. is likely to be essentially on hold for the for the next few months. you know there has to be some stimulus from somewhere so it might as well come from fiscal policy

there's a lot of talk about a year of being on a very very slow path to recovery and some even say it'll be a lost decade which side are you on are you an optimist when it comes to that or do you really agree that it'll be a very slow way out i'm probably the latter camp in large parts of europe a deep structural problems as the e.c.p.a. have highlighted on numerous occasions you know much of the banking system within the eurozone remains in trouble as we've seen with you know the markets beating the bank here in spain got this week and you know there's going to be a long long haul before some of these economies are going to you know we gain competitiveness and also you know talking about the austerity in spain get an extra two years in the budget you know not even sure another two years is going to make any difference as far as i can see spain's budget deficit is stuck at around seven percent of g.d.p.

that's not sustainable even at current rates of the sovereign bond market. now let's now take a quick look at the equity markets on wall street where trade is active this hour we see some profit taking the stats this week have been quite l.b. but many market players point to some clear signs of what they call investor fatigue hence these numbers the european of the seas and of their trading session much lower on ones they london's footsie lost almost chew percent. the fact that the i.m.f. cut china's growth forecast from eight to seven and three quarters of a percent only of course added fuel to the fire now in the currency markets the euro actually snapped out of its three day losing streak to gain against its major peers including the dollar but here in moscow the russian ruble shared value against both the dollar and the euro but russia's equity markets were a real mess a sea of red across the board both the r.t.s.

on the my six and the day more than two and a half percent lower. the gap between the rich and the poor may be much wider than we think according to the world bank the world's richest eight percent earn half of the entire income on the planet the top one percent has seen its reeling come rise more than sixty percent in the past two decades when it comes to perk capita g.d.p. the world's poorest country is the democratic republic of congo at two hundred thirty one dollars a year compare that with the richest monaco with more than one hundred seventy one thousand dollars a year. but what else doesn't always mean happiness and it turns out to be happy live in australia according to the organization for economic cooperation and development australia is topping the list of the countries with the highest quality

of life the always see these better life index analyzes more than thirty countries to find out which ones the industrialized nations offer the best lifestyle australia's economy has not seen a recession more than twenty years its unemployment was at five and a half percent in april much lower than in europe or the states and comparable only with. if money makes you happy though than the united states is for you it has the highest disposable incomes and household wealth denmark norway and sweden scored the highest in terms of the work a life balance. and that's all the latest from the business team the sour and just a couple of minutes meet the belgian m p whose stirring things up across the continent.

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well today on our team we're joined by i don't believe he's a member of the belgian chamber of representatives and he's not to be quite a controversial politician with this no holds barred manner of speaking especially when it comes to criticizing the decisions made by those at the top thank you very much mr dewey for joining us in the program let's get straight to it first of all you've been very vocal about your condemnation of the french intervention in mali but remember that two thirds of the french supported this move in that sense what does that say about the french and their view of interventions but also sub remark you so many putin i simply think they manipulated they manipulated by the power of the media the dettori in the hands of political leaders and therefore as long as you tell the french population that france is intervening to save humanity and to stop terrorists who are ready to commit attacks in france and europe of course the populations follow they think it's normal we are in danger but it's not true and

that's the problem i don't believe that tomorrow we'll see an attack by malayan terrorists in europe could it actually the war in mali is certainly not a fight against terrorism it's not a fight against islamism is to take advantage of natural resources in mali and the proof is energy john to reva is present in mali and it gets the support from french military forces to protect the installations that's the first time the national army has gone to provide services to a commercial company and i think there's a huge problem today are countries go to war to make money they don't care about international rules you look at the moment you know there's no such thing as a preventative war it's all aggression was when we see france are all on deriving in mali and being celebrated as a liberator this is a publicist he campaigned well so i think we cannot interfere in the policy of a sovereign country. but the french president francois hollande was saying that

france was merely answering the call for help of the mali and president. putin in the moment and president is a norm legitimity one because he was not elected and i think that the former french president nicolas sarkozy agrees with me as he said exactly the same thing we should not intervene in a country where there is no government and therefore i think i'm not the only one to think that it and i think and i think international rules don't allow this kind of military action especially to defend financial interests will differ on that. some analysts have been pointing out how the intervention in libya might have played a role in what took place in mali especially when we're talking about the flow of weapons into the country or the rise in tension said looking at the terrorist attack that we saw in algeria what do you think of this assessment. who provided weapons to libya who helped fight gadhafi it's western countries at some

point who have decided to fight libya because colonel gadhafi had ideas to pull africa out of poverty very smart ideas and thinking of his money tree system and it was troubling west and american systems who had to get rid of him and that's what the western is did i believe that france and other european countries are responsible for crimes against humanity during the military intervention in libya which i always opposed at the belgian parliament today we see that the weapons can come from anywhere rebels in syria are also using weapons and they find them somewhere and who provides those weapons western countries and countries like the usa england and belgium we provided we gave a lot of money for that opposition they are not in opposition they are rebels on that but they a coup makers. now you've also strongly condemned the nine million euros in aid the belgian plans to give to syria now you were angry you say because it will be you

think it will be given to the syrian opposition essentially aiding one side of the conflict but the belgian foreign minister he has said that the money will go to refugees he even mentioned those cubs adare in the jordan there about one hundred thousand syrian refugees there do you not believe that the money will actually reach those who are suffering from the crisis. i'm sure it's always like that we always hide what we're doing we always hide movement by pretending to be humanitarian we say that but what i see is that the rebels are very well equipped and always managed to equal the syrian army so all these weapons all this money must come from somewhere so i'm convinced that a big part of this money that we give for humanitarian purposes goes back to the hands of the rebels of this i'm absolutely sure and we've already seen that in other countries and i think of african countries where we also give a lot of money for humanitarian purposes but that's still strange because all this

money that we give them the local life quality dozens and prove they still live in misery so i really wonder where that money goes it must go somewhere because now we've also seen a change in the rhetoric of some of the western leaders if we look before at some of the statements they've made they've been kind of wary of talking about a direct intervention or aid in syria however now the e.u. is preparing to provide training to rebels in syria that may allow for the transfer of what what they call non-lethal equipment to help in that as assisting the citizens do you believe that it is realistic to make a differentiation between the radicals and the so-called freedom fighters in the process and how can we guarantee that the equipment does not fall into the wrong hands but anyway as long as the equipment falls into the hands of the. rebels the equipment falls into bad hands because for me those people a coup organizes the only thing they want is to set up shari'a law and today syria

is a moderate country with a leader who's looking at the west is not someone who cares about the past honestly i can only condemn the way of seeing things as far as i'm concerned democracies and not allowed to organize a coup in sovereign countries from a they were aggressive you could make a distinction between islam is a radical islamists and the opponents to the regime in every system there are some and the population that is pro asset is there as well the anything is as we noticed in countries of north africa that you need is a libya egypt all these people who could be opposed to the local power of course very quickly removed and replaced by radicals because they have the financial support they have the means of persuasion and in syria it's going to be the same if tomorrow bashar al assad is kicked out it will not be the moderate opposition that will take power it will be the islamists that be in power they will be supported by the united states why because the u.s.

has an interest in the fact that this part of the world knows chaos the usa wants to allow the americans to justify a wide scale military operation that will have as its a model to kick out of power so-called terrorist governments this is the problem today this is obvious i don't understand why we don't realize it more than it is the case today and therefore we have to fight this situation because we risk to go towards a world war and this scares me a lot because with as much manipulation this is very dangerous and peace is in danger. now you said that you believe that one of the purposes of western intervention aside from establishing a presence in africa and the middle east is to fight against china what kind of a threat is china being viewed as or at least what kind of a competition is the west in with china. well as far as i'm concerned china is not a threat but china is a threat the big powers on current big powers they see it is something bad to see

china coming into their own playgrounds china is more and more present in africa and it's normal they need natural resources obviously it's an economic threat and we see that china is seizing economic resources it's legitimate there's no problem about that recently i was in the democratic republic of congo and i noticed that indeed there were chinese workers there were building highways in congo i admit that these countries can be generous but i don't think that china does that for free and over see china in congo can do whatever it wants with the natural resources and exchange for services given to the population what is positive is that at least there are services given to the population this is a change from the western logic that we saw during colonialization with them taking advantage of africa without benefiting the locals and if this explains why former colonial powers such as france or other countries intervened today in north africa

to take back some natural resources this is the case of france in mali where france is only in the hands of the us in that story this is also the case in all the northern african countries that in the so-called arab spring the poor i say so-called because those are not real revolutionary movements when it was directed from abroad and it's always to put their hands on natural resources such as gas and your radio this is a race this is an economic war that we're seeing now honestly i prefer the africa could be free from all these foreign powers that want to take advantage of their natural resources but i mean if we cannot dream africa today is the attic of the world it's very difficult to imagine that africa will one day be owned by africans it's sad but it's true you could say at least that they are in partnerships where everybody. in a win win relationship than a unilateral exploitation i can't stand anymore to see african starving you know

when the underground is full of natural wealth which is crazy all over wealth doesn't bring anything to the local population it just benefits industrial companies international companies and their managers. of course we have to touch on the euro zone crisis sets talk about that what is your stand on the way the european union has been dealing with the crisis so far the quote first and foremost i would like to say that this crisis doesn't really exist this crisis was invented by our leaders it doesn't exist really it's a crisis invented by our leaders in order to impose on the population restrictions today in the name of the crisis we can do anything we were juiced social benefits we ask workers to work more and to unless we were to use public services while at the end of the day the citizens are not responsible for the crisis this crisis was created by our leaders and financial markets all this was made on purpose i'm sure

and who takes advantage of this it's companies they always end up with more dividends that's what we notice it is the european union which got greece spain and portugal into trouble we see that there's impoverishment of european populations and this is shocking to see to which extent it is possible to reduce benefits and put a whole population into poverty and all that because of a crisis that was created by financial interest and also been quite vocal about your position on what belgium should do you think that belgium should go it alone now why would this be the best solution for the country. i'm for an exit of the european union of the united nations and the natives because today all those institutions don't bring peace but they are war mongering institution and we must accept it because. we say all these institutions don't work in the interests of the population will they protect interests they protect lobbies financial interests

they are in the hands of big international companies and today citizens are forgotten we have to go back to the basics what we have to go back to what's the sensual doing politics is defend citizen and it's defined for the lifestyle and the population in your country and today europe is doing otherwise if it had your friends big companies gives them a lot of money and the citizens will leave them on the side of the road to twenty so i don't think it's normal i've always been in favor of a social year and and today you can save money you're in a hole and that's i cannot support you know the whole people you're going to the star of the new thank you very much for being on the program for giving us your time. a clear image of iraq after eight days or. twenty day taxi trip through the

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