washington to fans of sweeping surveillance of millions of internet users over seven years saying no we spied on foreigners outside the country. american china ready for an informal meeting in california amid finger pointing over its cyber attacks player in tension over washington's military build up in china's backyard. and president putin is set to become officially single after he and his wife announced the year of marriage is over and what they called an amicable split after thirty years of being together.

this is you coming to live from moscow i'm marina josh welcome to the program u.s. intelligence confirms it's collecting the private messages of internet users but the fans the move claiming the mass surveillance was targeting only non-u.s. persons outside the country earlier british and american papers reported that the u.s. was tapping directly into the servers of leading american internet companies getting access to personal e-mails photos and documents leaked court order has become the first hand evidence of washington sweeping data collection program are jesus says he has more. after i pop in news that america's national security agency has been collecting information on millions of customers of one of the country's biggest telecommunications providers verizon further information of the extent of surveillance conducted by u.s. officials has leaked out nine major internet companies they include google facebook

yahoo microsoft skype you tube apple a.o.l. and pal talk have been used by the f.b.i. and the national security agency to monitor photos videos e-mails audio and all other sorts of information tracking a sweeping scope of individuals online activity as reported by the guardian and the washington post a highly classified program dubbed prism accounts for almost one in seven intelligence reports made by the n.s.a. to the u.s. president and congress this is of course the first time that this prism program has been publicly brought to light u.s. officials in particular members of congress aware of this program have been keeping quiet about the sweeping activity of violating the privacy of american citizens and of course so all of this comes after a secret court order was obtained by the guardian and uploaded online this document revealed that u.s. telecom giant of arise and has been giving the n.s.a. information on absolutely all of the phone calls being made within the united states as well as between the u.s.

and foreign countries according to the secret court order which was issued as we know in april and expires july nineteenth phone calls of millions of americans are being traced through horizon absolutely regardless of whether or not there is reason to suspect that subscribers are involved in any criminal activity and it's also been disclosed that this operation has actually been ongoing since two thousand and six and renewed every three months. well as discuss this further with dr robi and i can mark a lecture at our am i t. university and he joins us live from melbourne thanks so much for joining us here to discuss this further well the u.s. intelligence chief claims that the data are targeting only non u.s. persons outside of the country so do you actually buy into this explanation that says that millions of americans were not affected by this. you know i didn't actually think that the point of mass surveillance the point of has been made very clear is that the tapping into for example through the order as was mentioned in the broadcast from to foreign intelligence surveillance court is varieties and for

example and that's just for aizen full access is being given to virtually all the messages that i send the idea that there are a citizens and non-citizens being involved in this is total nonsense the fact is people involved precisely because a lot of the communication involves american services that might be taking place in another country but that's irrelevant the fact of the matter is that the surveillance establishment that has been created is monitoring these communications as well. well my tivo also said that the closure of a secret court document on phone record collection threatened irreversible harm now what is your take on this do you believe that citizens must know of such sweeping surveillance. well yes i certainly do think it's very important that citizens do understand where they are when it comes to the government they have in the country that they are in because quite frankly such particular measures that have been

taken extraordinary inquired stan what is very interesting about the obama administration is that they the officials of the administration claim that quite different from the bush administration but what george bush jr did was essentially a case of warrantless surveillance so there was no warrant it was subpoenaed and taken on mass and then what ministration has done is taken it affectively to another level for example using such acts as the protect america act two thousand and seven and the fisa amendments act two thousand nates we're talking about extensive surveillance and i think citizens should know exactly what is happening when it comes to these sorts of things. well as such tactics are used to combat terrorism and if that was indeed helping to prevent attacks does the end justify the means in this particular case i don't really think so at the end of the day the point of the matter and this is what seems to be the justification from the

sentences connected with the intelligence committee like dianne feinstein for example is a case she makes the point that this is all part of the business we need to know what's going on there which is fine that's not in itself an objection but i think it is fundamental that people do know that this is what is being done the very curious remarks that have been made by some of the senators one of them a senator chambliss for example is that no one has made a complaint about what is being done but obviously people have not made complaints because they've absolutely no idea that the material that they're putting forth through servers through social media for example actually being tapped into by the annus say the national security agency and the f.b.i. . i dr a bit i have mark electorate out our mit university talking to us live from melbourne thanks very much indeed for abuse here on the view on r.t.e. pleasure thank you. turkey's prime minister seems unshaken by the protests

against his rule that have swept the country. on brand of the demonstrations unlawful and accused them of turning into vandalism calling for an immediate and to the unrest he was cheered by thousands of supporters upon returning home from a trip abroad those who gathered at the airport chanting that they are ready to die for every day on. now meanwhile tens of thousands of anti-government demonstrators packed cities across the country again calling for his resignation what began as a peaceful sit in and canst the demolition of a park in a samples taksim square has turned into the worst unrest in decades at least three people have been killed and thousands injured as a result of what's seen as a polices heavy handed response to the rallies. and one of the main things the protesters accuse the government of is for seeing conservative islamic values and turkey has been staunchly secular for nearly

a century the ataturk cultural center is taksim square also said to be demolished as part of a redevelopment plan has become a symbol of the current struggle. now reports. it's been a week since the violent dispersal of protests here in taksim square and then goes the park and let's take a look at one of the most important fixtures or other structures that have been here for quite some time and it's right behind me the ataturk cultural center now it's decorated with posters and slogans but that's not how it was a week ago it backed it was slated for demolition so why is it important for people in taksim what kind of significance does it carry for turkish people not just in istanbul but all over the country well let's go inside and take a look and find out the a cam used to house ballet and opera and was essentially a source of pride for the turkish people for them it was a representation of the cultural and political heritage left over by kemal ataturk but everyone said ballet is not an arch worthy of the turkish people not something

that turkey should be looking and inspiring to and decided to demolish this art house you can see in order to make way for a new op or house a lot of people this demolition is an attempt by anyone to go backwards instead of going forwards to do away with the with the ideas that were brought here by the church and to bring in early one's own ideas into basically you can say that at this point a key m. is sort of a citadel for the protesters you can say took this fortress by force on saturday evening or the protesters in istanbul this really was a pivotal moment this was the moment when they felt that they are at least for that particular moment to remove the bottle it's a symbol of resistance it's a symbol of protest it's a symbol really of the turkish people coming together and saying we will not let go of our heritage we will hold on to it even if it is dilapidated and is slated for demolition doesn't matter what the prime minister wants in this symbol. and we are closely following the situation in turkey as we have been from the very beginning

the timeline of the unrest and why the updates are available twenty four seven on our website r.t. dot com. the news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. showing operation to rule the day. smiles and warm handshakes are expected in california a layer in the day were the u.s. and chinese leaders meet for their first summit well behind the diplomacy there is a range of prickly subjects between the two with washington accusing beijing of launching a cyber war against it as art is more important than the reports the u.s. has countermeasures go well beyond being purely defensive. after months of muscle

flexing comes the handshaking u.s. president barack obama and chinese president xi jinping will likely play nice for the cameras but behind the closed california mansion doors of this first bilateral summit a tense talk over cyber espionage hacking and rules of virtual engagement think of it as well as the jumble of biological weapons convention so one can make those sorts of weapons most countries agree not to do so or to use the. same thing is true of cyber everyone's going to be asked information is our knowledge of what we can agree perhaps not to attack the children's interests or at least not to start doing however the u.s. has repeatedly accused the rising asian giants of widespread computer hacking just last week a report by the defense science board said nearly forty pentagon weapons programs and almost thirty other defense technologies were compromised by hackers some

directly tied to the chinese military and government u.s. manufacturers have also accused china of stealing patents and designs of high technology we're also clear eyed about the challenges in cyber. united states has expressed concern about the growing threat of cyber intrusion some of which appear to be tied to the chinese government and military china's defense ministry has consistently denied claims that its military is engaged in hacking and in turn pointed the finger at washington the country's top internet security official recently claimed to have mountains of data pointing to extensively u.s. hacking aims at china later this month the country will be holding unprecedented military drills with special i.t. units and even nato is debating whether it needs a manual on cyber wars while washington casts china as the world's most dangerous virtual threat the u.s. has been cementing plans to take down the enemy billions have reportedly been spent

to create forty teams of cyber agents that will allegedly serve to thwart hackers while simultaneously launching offensive attacks against adversaries a cyber battlefield that many believe the u.s. can't affectively control you have a government with many secure security holes in it you have a corporate sector that can't keep its information secure i am seeing this as a war in which the united states is not winning no matter the allowed resources it is putting in or the tough talk and even experts at home say now is the time for the u.s. to be working together with leading nations like china to establish norms for cyber space activity we want a global resilient open and secure unit if the u.s. and china fail to reach consensus on how to cooperate in cyberspace the consequence many believe could lead to a virtual cold war between the world's two largest economies and charted territory

that could inevitably turn the internet into a dangerous platform where friends become foes reporting from new york marina porter are today. and apart from the digital world there is a speculation that the u.s. and china are on the verge of a trade war china's rapid expansion is causing concern in washington especially as it's about to complete a deal that might become its biggest takeover of the u.s. company now to talk about this in more detail we're joined by our business using her ok to pilbeam so tell us what's happening between the two especially when it comes to trade i mean is this a new battlefield for the two while these guys have been in serious competition for a long time now we know china is set to take the top spot by as soon as twenty twenty seven face rivals in terms of business we also know that billions is traded between these countries as well actually moment ten billion already this year marina so you follow them for us that is very in prices actually doubled this time

last year and triple the year before so what does that matter if it's you know about by then it makes up a fifth of all form purchases that china buys up so it's very impressive indeed and i say phenomenal growth and i want to talk about a few tensions because the one that springs to my mind has to do with the yuan we know that the u.s. is always accused of deliberately manipulating their currency in order to keep the export is the offer has always been that tension a rumbling in the background there but plenty of billions traded box the fact so they're keeping each other on their toes in other words. you have to business well what is china buying from the you all right let's have a look because they are going up plenty as we can see that is all the technical stuff it's the mobile phones the computers the equipment all day the vision and also some of those products are actually american apple comes into that account as an important in that it's actually an american brown is it's made in china as we know that is sustainable right yeah exactly what is it that irritate some people because it's the biggest most valuable company absolutely soybeans would you

believe it that is the biggest import for china from america the end of the day they've got a lot of mouths to feed the number one thing that china buy is debt they have a quarter of it from america they also buy up with state oil companies satellite companies and one of the things that they were. really love actually marina is white for it rumble rumble rumble pig hawk actually china is the biggest consumer of pork in the world and i'm not surprised because most chinese dishes are poor and they do it is delicious as you know they absolutely love it and at the moment there's a four point seven billion dollar deal actually pending at the moment we've got sure an international the biggest meat company in the walls wanting to buy up smith the u.s. port company and if it does go to be the biggest trade deal between us and china in history also be filled could be spoken about today as well that's because china because they've got a growing middle class i got a taste of beef which is supposed to be more of a quality meal so this week lots of meaty discussion is going on indeed so they're

going to beef up everything. here in the well as we see there's a lot on the plate literally and figuratively here thanks very much indeed for that kid from view. now we've got more stories for you coming up including this one modern day robin hood facing criminal charges in the u.k. there's a chance you might and out in jail for a decade for sharing movies and songs for free. plus balancing the scales of justice we'll look at an israeli law that some claim gave settlers the upper hand over palestinians in the west bank we'll be back shortly after this break with more status.

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welcome back to watching our team president vladimir putin has announced that he's marriage is over and in months of speculation about his private life the announcement came in a joint interview with his wife on russian state television where they called it and out a couple split our dislikes here cesky has more on the high profile divorce well if we say that this bit of news came as a complete surprise i would say nothing at all mainly because in the history of modern russia the history of soviet russia and in the times before that none of the top officials have ever made their family problems public in fact never voice their divorce in the case of fortune's family there has been mounting speculation in the media especially the tabloid media about the that the climate of relations between the president and his wife this has been going on for several years already the couple has been rarely seen at the public eye different public events and have

rarely been making comments about each other well now officially all these rumors have been quashed by the president and his and his wife my children and all my activities mean i'm an absolutely public figure some people enjoy this and some don't some people simply incompatible with such a lifestyle my wife has done a nine year shift by my side basically the decision was mutual. like saddam oh said it was in stocks mutual decision a marriage is over because we barely see each other his job keeps him completely busy our children have grown up they live their own lives and we all do i really don't like being in the spotlight all the constant travelling is difficult for me we simply don't see each other. the internet in the morning literally exploded with comments and reactions on the presidential divorce with the president getting a lion's share of criticism for making such

a strong decision public there have also been of those who have been supportive of the president mainly because certainly going all out going public with such a strong decision concerning the private life of a top official is a very brave move but regardless of how you look at the presidential divorce news this may actually be a sign of things to come that by going public with details of his family life in may signal the whole new approach from the russia's top official still words are private lives and maybe we don't know for sure but maybe the general attitude of the russia's top officials still words their private life will be less secretive as it has been for many years now and there's more of that story on our website r.t. dot com and here's what else you can find there today russian airport staff discover a stairways dead body in the landing gear of a plane it was apparently used there for days and made several journeys. and it's

lose lose for spanish lawmakers after public outrage puts a stop to discount of strong drinks and parliament cafeterias the politicians will have to contend themselves with beer and wine and coffee saying they don't want to show a frivolous image. i want to make a living sharing movies and music be prepared to pay a hefty price in the u.k. owners of moneymaking torrent websites are facing up to ten years behind bars for cutting copyright holders out of profits sarah firth has the details. whether it's watching your favorite d.v.d. in the listening to music or maybe sharing that music with a friend file sharing is growing ever more popular and as its popularity grows so you too does the file sharing sites the torrent sites that host days link that's

a great unpopularity we've seen in the u.k. authorities alone with record company labels launching an precedented and torrent site campaign now the first sign of the count down by the u.k. authorities came in the form of a letter from the national intelligence bureau and then it was that they found guilty of certain offenses to face ten imprisonment all see if you can to the founder of one of the sites that received and publish the left a sense of them by the tail and now he's asked to remain anonymous but let's take a listen to what he said i think it will i mean maybe also. part of the strategy that they're trying to make it is difficult as possible for people to end this threatening as possible for people to start these sites but on the whole i don't think it's going to stop well here to talk torrents with us on to and by digital policy blog. thank you for joining us i think of you first of all let's clear up

because you can see here you know people on earth. on their computers listening to music watching videos when it comes to torrents and sharing fights what's the legality what's legal what's not real well that's one of the problems it's a completely gray area. if you take a copy of somebody else's picture or music and stick your website that's popular and i would if you provide a link to somebody else's story of that same content then providing that lead you through law is technically not illegal however if you create a website with thousands of such stories and advertising around them to make money from. under british law under your care law there has been a prosecution it's a ratcheting up of the rhetoric and it's actually nothing more than that because nothing is turning into more since these lessons are being issued so anybody running a tour of websites are prosecuted under similar legislation could expect to see the

sentence which is four years in prison ok well we're certainly going to be keeping a very closely on what happens with the investigations i will bring you updates as . the united nations human rights agency is reportedly working on a plan to compensate palestinians harmed by israeli settlers in the west bank as follows increased violence recently with attacks resulting in injuries and damage to property the new un plan could help offset the apparent bias of israeli law concerning settlers and palestinians has more on this. in the wild west bank gunslinging israelis and palestinians do not stand equal before the law they never did but even less so now a settler and a palestinian living side by side who commit the same crime a put their entirely different legal systems the settlers have when they fight to have the so-called gloomy law apply in the west bank shai dromi was an israeli

farmer who in an act of self-defense shot and killed a trespasser and wounded thirteen others he was eventually acquitted of manslaughter and the law that was later named after him supports the notion that any action taken against an intruder is considered self-defense but until now it wasn't clear if it applied in the settlements it's an issue that's now back on the table the limits of when acetic can and cannot use a gun to protect himself or his property jacob taylor lives in the disputed hebron hills he moved here from south africa two decades ago with seventy four members of his family jacob claims more than six hundred of his pedigree sheep have been stolen by palestinians from his farm the rifle that the army supplied me but they don't even go out and walk with that i feel like shit at night time when like when they stole my sheep i took their rights i went out i mean for self protection but the palestinians have a different version. of are you going to so i was in the mountains feeding my sheep

in our land and the settlers attacked me and hit me on my back they did not just attack me they attacked everybody every day they are trying to take our lands but we will not let them. the law says jacobs case gets who'd in a news release of all court hundred in a military one the palestinian could be barred from seeing a lawyer for up to thirty days the palestinian could be held and interrogated for eight days before being brought to a judge after which the detention could be extended and extended and extended by comparison the settler would immediately be allowed to consult with his lawyer he would have to be brought before a judge in order to continue interrogating him within twenty four hours and he would have all the sense of due process that we don't see in the military court almost a day doesn't go past without at least one violent act between citizen palestinians being reported many fear

a third intifada might be on the cards all the more possible now that cities have been given the green light to shoot and also questions later policy r t in the way spend. and coming up and just a few minutes crossed up with peter lavelle and going. to the school board in batavia illinois has decided to punish one teacher for his bad behavior by putting him on a strict probation play or what did he do to be deserve be part of this probation planted he do select punch a student in the face or to go on some sort of horribly racist or sexist ranted for the class no he just reminded the students that as americans they have the right to not incriminate themselves to put it more simply he told the students that they didn't have to answer a questionable survey about drug and alcohol use and their emotional state since

the data from this questionnaire would be sent back to the private company that created it this raises even more privacy issues than just the school knowing about the students personal lives i would like to commend this teacher john dryden for actually going above and beyond and telling the children something they need to know you know if you're going to live in a society based on individual rights it would help to actually teach children what those rights are but that's just my opinion.

hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle the u.s. government versus private first class bradley manning what is his trial all about protecting state and military secrets for a show trial scapegoating one individual does this trial send it chilling warning to would be whistleblowers and to journalists and what does aiding the enemy mean in the age of the internet. to cross out the bradley manning trial i'm joined by my guests in washington barry he is the washington d.c. director of code pink and we also have david sheldon he is an expert in military law all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it tell you if i can go to you first as

this trial started we knew bradley manning is going to sort of it least twenty years in prison so what's the point of all these other charges twenty years is a long time. well i think the government is trying to scapegoat bradley manning trying to get more time out of this they're looking to get a life sentence i'm sure that they're not going to try and kill bradley manning but i think that the government is trying to send a chill across all levels of society such as are our media those whistleblowers within government that want to blow the whistle on. expense accounts inside of certain organizations in the united states that are you buz ing their rights it's time for this government to use the evidence that they have which is very little the fact of the matter is bradley manning had access to millions of documents and he only chose to release seven hundred thousand of these documents he was very

scrupulous in the way he chose to release these documents not to harm anybody the government is claiming that he put peaceful people in the manger i can produce no evidence ok david how would you respond to that ok very little evidence here and we know this man is going to get at least twenty years in prison well i think there's a number of different responses one can give first of all it seemed to contradictory to say that there's very little evan twin. mr manning specialist manning. hundreds of thousands of documents communiques from the united states of the highest level and certainly that warrants severe punishment now whether the case is not death qualified it's not the. death the government simply wants to bring this case to trial i'm not suggesting that there's over or not overreaching by the united states in doing so one of the questions that i have is where the supervisors of specialist manning why have we

not seen those people come to pass this individual did not simply. arrived in iraq in a vacuum he was there he was being supervised there was a shop there was a code what happened how did the process break down and why are those people being held accountable well timed i think he did talk to his superiors to me i mean that's part of the evidence isn't it well he did also the fact of the matter was they said it recently came out there was a very lax environment in there people were listening to music playing videotapes they were. using these these documents haphazardly and i think bradley manning came in there and saw what was going on and he was very concerned about what he saw were war crimes that were taking place inside the field about the arena of war which is was iraq in afghanistan and he also saw the the united states

double speak through these releases of the embassy e-mails i think that nothing he's done or anyone here of good and the other thing is. ok david just going is bradley manning high from this. if i may if i may i think that you have to distinguish this case from what you've referenced earlier about people disclosing expense accounts or something like this we're talking about very very high love a communique i think you have to distinguish between the merits of disclose your versus the merits of doing your job as a specialist to protect the interests of the game at a high level during the games that embarrass the government well exactly david most of these were just saying we were just to various thing. should someone go to life imprisonment or embarrassment go ahead david. well. i don't think that that's

what specialist manning is going to go to jail for specialist manning is going to go to jail for violating his contract with the united states his representation of the united states as an army so we're drawn to that what he's going to jail for and and certainly he put people at risk in fact wiki leaks redacted much of the information that specialist manning put out there and specialist manning did not do that he's not a control source you know if you want to compare him to the one the one shred of evidence that bradley manning put anybody at risk david i'd love to see one shred of bradley manning put anyone at risk if he if they had this evidence he would be getting life imprisonment the fact of matter is bradley manning pleat pleaded out to some lesser charges because he didn't want to spend the rest of his life in jail and the united states government in this kangaroo military court knows that they

have all the power in their hands and his lawyer obviously told him that he had very little chance of escaping this without going to prison is which is our wishes but he should plead to these lesser charges and then let the government prove these more expansive charges that he aided and abetted that he and all the you know i didn't i mean if that's the case for me i mean if you get on the internet by years and haven't ever had david that happens every day in every american corps in this country and to suggest that this is a kangaroo court is not well of this is the king this is a court that is subject to the federal rules of evidence for the uniform code of military justice the military rules of evidence all of this is within the confines of the military justice system and it is by no means i can this is what i know the good. i'm not suggesting i am not suggesting that the court is.

to take matters in secret and their class of disclosure where. in essence a close court i think that that transparency and to the extent that state led zeppelin's that i don't think of that but in the case to me that there are very serious. information that is being disclosed that in the national interests and that's judges don't simply close a court in this country because they want to avoid embarrassment of the united states that's not what i need fortunately the national interest has a bad information that's being disclosed i tell you go ahead. jump in unfortunately national interest has been combined with now with corporate interests we don't know where the interests lie anymore because we spent last year fourteen billion dollars classifying information in this country i know for

a fact that they classified the diameter of a humvee truck tire so i think that with the overclassification bradley manning could be. charged with aiding and abetting i think you're going to clip this somebody who happened to be. according to someone these we saw what happened in the military courts down in guantanamo they couldn't get convictions because they don't work there they're not using evidence they're not using proper. judges are throwing these things out bradley manning was tortured again and i think they're going to have a problem with that david you want to go ahead. submit that the military justice system has responded the judge in fact has awarded article thirteen court punishment credit for specialist manning it's not figments against the one hundred some day that's significant for all intent and purpose but to suggest that he was twenty three years i did i think three here. suggests to

suggest well many people who are on trial for very serious crimes remain in the incarceration for one q three years have happened all the time in this country and throughout the world i do want to say one thing and i do agree with you to an extent i do think that the procedures that are in place down and get mo are undermining the national interest i do not think that there is transparency i think there's an undercutting of the number right to counsel i think that that is wrong i think that we play by the rules of the uniform code of military justice i would even go so far as to say we should bring these people to trial in the end i did states. where the the rule time evidence applied i could have and i mean let me ask you right. ok david go ahead jump in reply. well one thing i'd like to point out is it seems that this court because i was in the courtroom there

in fort meade and it seems like they're trying to build a case against julian assange. case against manning and when you weigh the leaks and it seems it seems to me that bradley manning the reason they've held onto him for three years and to bring him to court and the judge threw out hundreds of motions by the defense is that they are they're trying to script a way to get what they want this doesn't seem to be trying to get to the truth trying to get the facts of the matter this seems more like well this is what we want to get out of it and let's keep in mind that barack obama obama has tried and punished or tried to punish more whistleblowers since he's been president than all presidents combined this president has gone out of control trying to stop leaks it's a putting a chilling effect on our investigative reporting it i was just listening to someone the other day telling me that. glenn greenwald sources are being targeted so that

he can't get any more phone calls and this is horrible for the american public this is horrible for transparency i think this kills our democracy and bradley manning is a hero in my in my view go ahead reply go ahead before we go to the break go ahead . and we certainly appreciate your views but i think none the less when one violates federal law when one ends path with upholding the constitution then protecting the interests of the united states bring that person to task bring that person to court bring that person to hear the evidence against them to be able to challenge that evidence is all about transparency and that's what's happening at fort meade today. cut this in gentlemen i made the jump and i need to jump in here and we're going to go to a short break and answer that shows. we'll continue our discussion on the bradley manning trial state parties.

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