jenny unspent law and i have eleven children nine of them are adopted seven of the adopted kids hiv positive along with the of kenny. new through nikita was our first adopted child. the only one that we chose personally who. didn't select any of the others. didn't really consider it normal kind of thing this isn't just shopping where you can go and take things off the shelf or. i think all children really should have a family. and it doesn't matter if it is healthy or sick or pretty or ugly black hair or red hair or whatever all of them need a mom and

a dad on. this own two girls are like their mother perfectly healthy their sirens have a separate refrigerator filled with medicine. some take half some a quarter everyone has their own ghosts. the . stuff. at seven o'clock sharp every morning and evening the kids and their father take their medication yes science cannot afford to forget as their lives depend on it. i just wanted to help at least one person who you could say i felt

that when i was having contractions before giving birth to anya a doctor came by and said oh that's the one with the husband who's a child the positive and then all the doctors suddenly changed they started to protect themselves like they were going into space ten facemasks fifteen pairs of gloves everything they had i was thrown into an isolation ward and my husband wasn't allowed anywhere near me. there most of the nine hundred ninety two it was a hospital that handed down their verdict you might say. they diagnosed me with a quarter of of the bed was smashed up or the mattress that was just dumped on a rubbish. and then they discharged me from hospital with a temperature of more than thirty nine degrees celsius. over to me i felt like a complete social outcast. you know good morning everyone everyone i knew relatives neighbors friends. they all just turned their backs on me when you're out of the

water where i was devastated well for a month or two of problem i didn't want to talk to anyone i wanted to be left alone no you're not for you but you and so i started taking drugs. that was my way to kill the pain to combat the depression. it was a really terrible time. i was given a black guy in a fight. they hit me on the head with a hammer. and. that was when i understood i knew that i had to find some new direction to move in a year year and so. that's how i found the church. ten years ago i saw an absolutely shattered life at my door seemed it was just a couple of steps away from the grave they don't even notice people like us in fact they want to push them away. came here with a broken soul and

a desperate future she didn't have a problem with drugs but she did have other problems they brought her to the rehabilitation center in handcuffs once. i just. thank you god for your sons and daughters. forgive us and break the curse in these people's lives. break the devils call us and bless the. boy. to rehab they fell in love and they came to me they said they were in love they want to start a family and i said no way i don't even want to hear about that you're a should be positive and she isn't so don't do that please but they came back again saying pastor we love each other we really mean it with us you know that if you're not there it was only after we saw him for the third time to ask him to marry us that he said ok guys it's your fate it's your decision. and then he gave us his

blessing and he married off. the first pregnancy was very difficult. for expecting twins and already had names for them. and you survived the boy died in childbirth after the tragedy expect her husband to adopt a child they decided to take one who was hiv positive. after people learned about the adoption they were really shocked as it turned out it was the first official adoption of an inch any positive child in ukraine. children study in an ordinary village school laura supposed to protect those living with hiv from social discrimination but only their adoptive mother can protect them from ignorance. there are three different full article from one day i received a phone call from the headmaster i was told that some of the parents there were causing a fuss my kids had hiv that could be passed on and they were worried about if i had

to meet the parents and explain to them that for the virus to transfer my child would have to cut open their arm along with yours and rub the two together. only after that debate calmed down a bit but i still get looks from time to time. it . all. on. their children so they sometimes get into scraps and sometimes they bleed the main thing the parents were afraid of is that blood would get on somebody and they would catch the virus i try to make sure this doesn't happen i'm always with them. oh i. am. going to. do that but that's the way just as not to fight fight or pinch one

another not to eat from the same. look in the. saliva contains a small percent of the virus but this is so my need that infection from saliva is impossible to household objects so i cups forks and shared bathrooms and towels cannot transmit the virus with your water because. you don't was a bit when we took the arrow home she was fine she could run and jump before everything was fine but last year she literally started to fall toward me and couldn't walk or jump we sent her to the hospital for a checkup the doctors told us she was suffering from an overdose they said her medical treatment was all wrong. and then here are my family's hand friends. they said. there is mom.

there was a dad and that's your right and the privilege to be missed she spent about four months in the hospital mostly on a drip from one of them one of they were trying to flush out all those chemicals which is now we hope and pray and believe in america we ask god that chilled running just the way she used to you know. you know we've changed her treatment she needs to go through a series of massages. but the thing is that now we treat the virus but damage her liver. come here baby. what's wrong. when you have. your what happened. why are you crying. for much

earth but i hear you had another tragedy like in week thirty two or thirty three of the pregnancy i gave birth in which surely the boys died and it was the first one within five minutes the other within two days and this year they would have turned four. well if they had been alone healthy we would probably never ever have your of your also show off your. we didn't plan to have you ever actually we just thought i was going to have two boys and that would be yet. when it came to sasha's adoption that i refused to take her and even though they asked us to do so three times at that time i wasn't ready to make the decision either morally or psychologically that she wasn't just him either positive like all

the other kids. she also had stage for aids and tuberculosis was. my dream was to have parents to have a mom and dad for them to come and take me home. there aren't many people ready to take kids like us. the doctors said she wouldn't be in this world for a long time i touched her head i had clumps of hair in my hand the very morning her pillow was covered with her own hair and i thought i had to buy a week for her we were told she was going to live about a year or two at most and i said ok let it be here or two but in a family let her feel it finally when i call children hiv flowers with the same as a flower you simply just have to water and nourish them that was what we needed to do we nursed her like a flower. it

was the first new year's eve i spent with a family. i got a lot of presents. all. dress is. so huge and to me i've never had something like that before. we got her better and she finally blossomed this year she's going to turn fourteen we draw we seeing we do gymnastics we can do it all. in. all. this but. this is just this is completely different. treatment it's all of the cells have grown up with that of the dog just shrug their

shoulders they can't understand it i think it's all about the family when you're really fail at. quickly i think it can be treated with love affection. it's good that. it is. easy. to think that we. didn't. download the official. language stream quality and enjoy your favorite. if you're away from your. mobile device you can watch your t.v. anytime anywhere.

well. sorry it's technology innovations. developments from around russia we've. covered. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know. are welcome to the big picture. thank you thank you everyone for that stunned me of a shoot for the family. great.

good moment it was like a dream come true a dream come true because we're just ordinary people from a village. and it was so fantastic to stand there in front of the whole country and to hear the applause of the elite of the politicians and the famous athletes of ukraine it was amazing. but there is it's quite heavy. it's just good for cracking nuts and it's no good for anything else. to put it cried and that was it. you know i'm a driver all the money i make mostly goes towards medication that. takes

a lot to get them back on their feet after chemotherapy you know. every time we leave the village we drive here past our unfinished house. promised us a good home for the kids every one of us to have his own room said one politician he was a successful businessman. but he was just good enough to pour concrete for the foundations that was it i think it was a p.r. stunt to run up we've got to. look at what the front hole was to be here. and the lounge with a t.v. set the kitchen and a big terrace. a second floor was going to have several bedrooms each for two people. and.

michelle has two sisters they live one hundred kilometers away from us. we've never seen them though his mother found out that she was hiv positive when she was in the maternity ward and she immediately gave him up. a while later in prison his grandmother took the girls because they were healthy but misha had to go to an orphanage. came back from school really upset he said he was never going to go back there ever again so i asked him what happened with him he said they told him professor i just burst out laughing he didn't understand yet so i told him if you're able to become a real professor i'll be completely happy to have a bright sign like that he thought it was a rude word to. me sure and were adopted right after the twins death the

doctors tried to convince her that she would not be able to have children again at that point already had eight adopted children as well as their own daughter. everyone says were a bit crazy but i really felt something inside my heart something like if you was to take another two will be blessed so it happened like that we adopted two children and i got pregnant immediately their daughter was born perfectly healthy. once a girl wrote to me she said she'd heard my story and decided to marry a man with h. i v but things didn't go well she got infected and had an h.n.d. positive child. i know that i don't have it but still sometimes i have thoughts that maybe i do but i know that i'm not infected with that. quite often and those couples have healthy children the father cannot in fact the child the virus can be transmitted only by

the most there. is the mother doesn't have it during conception it means the child is going to be one hundred percent healthy the little. fellow. can i pick up my test results last night. when did you have the test yesterday. here is everything's fine at the negative yes thank you this is goodbye. you know please don't follow my example you know it can be dangerous for your health. shoulders buck chin up boys dress right attention good morning good morning. i use the same cups and plates the children

with a choice. i was never afraid of that. but in the beginning i couldn't understand why all the officials didn't want to have tea when they came to visit. at some point i just realize they were scheduled but they were afraid of getting infected so i want to say it once again. people are like us a lot of them are amazing. both of you not to get nutty has set up what's probably the biggest shelter for children in the whole of the former soviet union. these are kids who used to live in basements do you think they were addicted to various sorts of drugs. is the thirty second one i officially adopted. is number thirty two here but called for in the place where i usually put the number maybe i don't remember. if you will move the pasta was the

first to tell us about the orphans and the homeless children. all children should have their own family we started to get involved in that because of him which we would probably see millions from the age of seven to nine i was living on the streets asking people for money i'd just have a bread roll for a whole day the rest of the money was spent on cigarettes beer and vodka. idea. because his own story we took him from the streets he ran away a few times he was a pickpocket and he was always up to something i got him adopted but i didn't even have my own place at the time right at that time you've started his family shelter . one day of game he invited him to his place i was sort of worried the batali would

steal something right off but it was ok so in three or four days you have again he told me to leave the boy then and he did kind of well so we decided to leave it at that. sort of renting out my adopted son. at least a room. where getting ready for a bike ride we've already traveled about a thousand. kilometers across the whole of ukraine from my old bill to kiev which we've also going to run most of russia we want to travel around the world and tell everyone to adult children he. dies. i want you to have a really good ride today if you are a leader make at least fifty i don't make. much easier. when you do we write you to carry the message about adopting children you main goal

is to see that all of the orphanages are closed down. so that every child will have a place of their own. and i don't just mean good looking blue eyed ones i'm also talking about the handicapped kids with cerebral palsy the ones with aids or hiv. i think they get older regardless of how sick they may be here with. you. brought your own home he was nervous in tattered clothes and looked like a wolf i opened the car door and saw him there he was filthy with lots of dirt under his fingernails yes there was a cell phone in this hands and he looked really scared i didn't know how to start talking to him i asked him if he wanted some sunflower seeds he said no i asked about ice cream i get now. i've got some pictures here. this is what he looked like when i first brought him here in new.

york it was his own father who beat him like this. take some pills asked me if i did and i said no so he started to hit me. he didn't want to hear any explanations he just wanted the result being depressed and drunk he just. the boy was left to fend for himself. he didn't let me outside started to run away trying to make some money. through dumpsters looking for scrap metal. causative nobody wanted to make friends with me he chased me spat on me and threw stones. give the blame is father became sick we went to see him that he had his

own money box and i wanted to give him some cash so he could buy a present for his dad but he said he was going to use his own savings so he broke open the box and went to a storm at the door the best things he could have and some things that he probably never tried himself. this is my real father. when i saw in the last time in hospital he was really happy to see me there i told him about my trips to the crimea. he told me to be a good boy take my medicine at the right time and look after my health. i saw that his father was almost crying. to forgive him for everything. and i could see that the boy had forgiven him and they were reconciled. this old man died.

just wasn't interested. he went down a couple of the slides. sounded and. i thought that he just probably didn't like it. go bad still he wasn't happy about that he wasn't happy about anything. he just came up to. water he said he doesn't need any. except a. moment out. and i love. it

when i was i had eleven kids. years old was immediate in eight years we've become the happiest parents in the world. we have managed to get into those lives. with motorway to the kids' lives that nobody's interested in children who are trying to spend their whole life times the shelters are all from the ashes. and. they taught us to believe and trust people and i still need to learn more even at my age. about how to fight for one's rights in one's life the most important thing is to believe that's what a lot of grown ups taught to learn from them. mission

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