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tv   Interview  RT  June 9, 2013 4:46am-5:01am EDT

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you're like that here we're back but it was like he said in one drone strike they turned the entire village against the americans that's it maybe a couple hundred new people who will call terrorists if they take revenge it's a turd generating machine it's a terror it's a terrorist operation and a terrorist generating machine so it goes on and on and it's not just the drone strikes also the special forces and so on well that was right at the time of the boston marathon it is just one of a number of all cases but why are people so easy to accept conventional wisdom government narratives with virtually no questioning and here a drumbeat of conventional. propaganda in my view and i think some research project to find other things that there are other cases where which come to mind right away or should i wear a person is murder who could easily be apprehended with severe consequences of the
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most famous one because. bin laden there were eighty or so special forces trained mabel's navy seals broke into his invaded pakistan broke into his compound killed a couple people that captured him he was defenseless i think his wife was with him but to the under instructions they just murdered him through his body into the ocean well without. that that's only the beginning the seals were under orders to fight their way out if they were caught or suppose it was luckily that didn't happen but it was a very close i just think what was at stake. the head of the. pax pakistan has a well trained army loyal to the state defending state sovereignty plenty of
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nuclear weapons they were the army chief of staff was notified that there had been planes intruding into pakistani airspace he assumed it was an indian attack they're going to have it war with india but they mobilize their forces to go after whoever it was at the same time. david petraeus the commander in kabul had ordered us. air forces to scramble to mobilize in case there was any need to extricate the seals that we could easily lead to a war in fact a nuclear war so they were playing a game with possible nuclear war in order to murder somebody who they could have apprehended and that's only the beginning to how they find out where he was well it turns out that the trick that was used was a cia run fake vaccination you know. in an area of
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about the the about. probably thought he would try to get information about it. that's a violation of principles that go back to the credit goes and it has consequences first of all they cut the vaccination program off in the middle one day he was somewhere else another crime but in much in pakistan and in fact much of the third world there's a lot of concern about. foreign white people who come in and stick needles into your arms and what are they up to they've got enough history to you weary well now they have reason to be wary of these white people with the needles are trying to funds up with murder. and what happened is what you'd expect they were abductions of. un polio workers working on vaccination
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several of them were murdered the un had to pull its whole team out pakistan is one of the last places world where there is. but it's kind of endemic affects the whole it could be wiped out. few places left on this and there's the polio campaign and pakistan. officer colombia specialist on. public health. les roberts estimated that the holy bit about one hundred thousand polio cases because of this and he also added that. sooner or later somebody is going to point to this child in a wheelchair or tell the americans you did this to. and then you had more people who we called perce you know just the media's lack of coverage with everything that you're speaking on and i know that america runs on this nationalism in american
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exceptionalism but is america's severe lack of empathy unique or do we see this in every country and are we just growing up in america and we just you know are isolated with our own viewpoint i think it's true of. every great power that i can think of britain was the same france is the same germany was a lesser countries defeated when germany was defeated in the second world war. it was compelled to put it that engine to be atrocities that it carried out but others don't of course reagan the school of america's agenda will ever see white war criminals funded from imperialist nations stand trial in the same way but i also want that almost impossible to take a look at the i.c.c. international criminal court black africans or other people west doesn't like i'm in the bush and blair will be right up there there's no crime reason
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a crime worse than the invasion of iraq. obama ought to be there for the war but this is it's just inconceivable in fact there's legislation in the united states which in europe was called the netherlands invasion. a congressional legislation and so on but the president which authorizes the president to use force to rescue any american brought to the hague for trial. you know this is. a speaking of the drone wars i can't help but think of john bellinger the chief architect of the drone policy who was speaking to a think tank recently and he said that obama's ramped up the drone killings simply to avoid the bad press of getting out of capturing suspects alive and trying to get now when you hear things like this what is your response to people who say his hands are tied he wants to do well well that that's i too was pointed out some time ago but will street journal military correspondent what he pointed out is that
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bush's technique was to. capture people and torture them. obama's improved you just kill them and anybody else is around it's not that his hands are that he's a i mean that's a much more. it's bad enough to capture them and torture them but just to murder on executive whim and as i say it's not just murder of the suspect there are weapons there are as everyone knows it's not that anyone's hansard that's what he wants to do let's talk of the linguistic and language of the war on terror what it obama's rebranding of bush administration policies did a public consciousness of the the policy of murdering people instead of treating them and torturing them. can be presented to the public in a way that makes it look clean and it's presented and i think most people see it
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this way as it of a surgical strike which goes after people who are planning to do us harm. and this is a very frightened country terrified country has been for a long time so if anybody is going to do us harm it's fun for us to kill them and some of the reactions are how this is interpreted it is quite interesting for example it was a case about a year or two ago when a drone attack in yemen killed a couple of little girls and it was a discussion but with. a well known liberal columnist joe klein he writes for time he was asked what he thought of it is and he said something like . it's better that four of them are killed them four of four little girls here or so because i mean the logic is mind boggling but if we
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have to kill people elsewhere who might conceivably. have to harm us and it happens a couple little girls get killed too that's fine we're entitled to do that i mean suppose any other any country is doing that to us or to any anyone we regard as human and it's. credible but this is this is very common and i remember once when right after the invasion of iraq thomas friedman your middle east specialist columnist was interviewed on the charlie rose show you know the sort of intellectuals through the disco and he asked him what we ought to be doing in iraq and i wish i could say you got to see the actual words to grasp it but basically what it was what he said is something like this he said.
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american troops sort of smashed in. make people understand the well. this is a this we're not well to terrorism and. you better understand and so these are women and children. have to be. humiliated to the group. so that because so that won't. cause i mean. that's the. liberal little look cool culture thank you so much dr chomsky amazing this and front of you and take the time to talk to you about all these things are like.
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arguably america's influence is much larger than that of iran so power comes responsibility greater responsibility would you agree with that in every negotiation on a round table the policies are equal they may be different in the degree of that but on this issue each side is negotiating with the i'm trying to reach an agreement.
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