often says that it only kills a militant and doesn't kill civilians but he fails to give names and identities of those who have been killed in these a strikes in pakistan now according to independent sources more than three thousand people have been killed in resist on in pakistan but not a single name has been given by president obama or the cia which is carrying over the strikes what we hear from news reports is just a few names of militant leaders who have been killed vestas all gorse president of almost all sure that he is killing militants and he has not killed any civilian than he has to give the names and details of all those militants who he has killed because for his money i would be happy in a sense that if you have killed all those people who are creating all this terror in my cities if you have killed all these people who were here let you go probably for you while lucian of floor but at least i will be happy that you are making me see if what the question here is that who are you kidding you have no idea yourself

and this is what the recent reports published in american media tells us that the us has no idea he has no syria has no idea who they are actually killing in these drone strikes but how do we know was actually being targeted and who's actually being killed when isn't this the cia you who should be knowing who they're killing because see a year when they say it's very precise and it's very accurate so what is the procedure necker if the if you do not know who you're killing most of the drone strikes take place in remote tribal areas that are effectively blocked off by the pakistan government to the outside world can you describe what the conditions are like in these areas most of the drone strikes in pakistan which in the number two number is more than three hundred seventy drone strikes or four and they have been taking place in the tribal areas of pakistan and specifically into it and sees one is south waziristan and second is not was respond and these areas one is an operational military area and the other area has a huge contingent of pakistani military and out here. yes which has been blocked

from rest of the country and the whole border between pakistan from north waziristan to going to stan is also pretty much manned according to their recent number which they have given to a un representative in pakistan that number is more than one hundred thousand soldiers in busiest on so this is the kind of president obama says that this is a place i'm hitting with pakistani army and no one can reach so there is a reach but that reaches a box on the military and no one else so for example independent journalist like you or a campaigner like me or a lawyer like me can not go to that area and similarly if anyone wants to come out of their video to report of any white nation it's extremely difficult for that person to come here because. just to give you an example to get out of your own show which is the capital of north waziristan. to get out of the out into a separate area there's a road which is not more than thirty to forty kilometers and you have to cross

seven military checkpoints we're pretty much at every point you are stripped strip searched and if you do not have an id saying that you are from the tribal area you're not allowed in or out some people might not like it but i'd simply call it a concentration camp that you have built a wall of. military and militants and behind that wall you keeping more than eight hundred thousand people who are not allowed to come out and no one from the rest of the country is allowed to go in and that's a kind of little boy tree which u.s. is using to use and pass its drone program but how do you establish the innocence of your clients a skeptical person might wonder whether you could in fact be representing militants interestingly i don't have to prove their innocence in a court of law because in a court of law you have this principle that presumption of innocence everyone is innocent till proven guilty it's just a court of public perception when i go out there with my clients first question people ask me. would you prove them to be innocent and i answer to them is that how

do you prove them to be guilty so that you kill them do you have anything against my clients to say that no they're militants their family members of militants with a person who has been killed was a militant so therefore that person was killed there's not even the league ation of fact present here and how do we define a militant in this case i mean i've read statements that say that the united states claims any able bodied male from a certain age group is potentially a militant i think there are two things here one is that first of all there is no definition of who is a militant and who was not a modern just like there's no definition so far of a terrorist the if you don't have so far a proper definition of terrorist similarly the problem here is in visitor stand that. what we're talking about here is the signature strikes now this is kind of methodology which has been developed by a c.a.e. that they're going to study the behavior pattern and do if someone is dressed or is

looking like and then on basis of that they draw this is a mission that this person might be a militant be looking for and start just this whole process simply explains to you the absurdity of this process in selecting a dog so for example according to again once again the documents leaked. and printed and published in american journals of newspapers indicated that the signature strike is where a cia operative looking at the screen studies the pattern and behaviors of for example if there's a guy who has long beard wears a certain kind of turban carries a gun drives in a suit he is your militant and this is the basis of see a labeling anyone has militant and then taking a target and killing them and this is what we used to have in united states and sixty's racial profiling if you're a black guy and you are walking in

a white neighborhood and although police were supposed to stop and sort you because you're black you're supposed to be a thief so the question for americans is that is this what you would like to be known for or are your principles important which your forefathers fought for centuries and they build those principles within your own country the u.s. assistant secretary of defense recently told the senate armed services committee that there is no geographical or time balance to the drone war in fact he said that the drone strikes are likely to continue far beyond president obama's term in the white house possibly as far as until twenty twenty four or even twenty thirty four what is your reaction to that i think you are. administration is not really listening to reason here because all governments around the world un people on the ground are telling them that this is a disastrous program and you have to listen to reason you have to listen to all

those hundreds of cases of civilian innocent who've been killed in pakistan and was are stunned by drones and hundreds of civilians who have been killed if you win in afghanistan where your forces even have the ground control and still you are committing so many mistakes there and killing civilians just to give you one example in two thousand. u.s. military killed its own soldiers on the ground with a drone who were just so there were american soldiers who were dressed as local locals on some kind of operation and there were killed by drones themselves and one thing which american industry needs to understand that drone technology is not a very sophisticated or complicated technology and what if in future other countries. have drawn what would be the impact of the precedence which u.s. is setting. on the wood well you sort of make it seem like there is unanimous

international opposition to the drone program but if drones per se were so bad why would pakistani officials ask for the technology i would ask the question that what role pakistani army or pakistani government is playing in drone wars because on one side they're saying that drones are illegal and contra productive but on the other side we also hear that they have been cooperating on drone wars in parks on and this is the key question which we've been asking through our litigation and this is the thing which has been settled into shallower high court litigation which we recently succeeded in and the court held categorically that their house drone strikes are illegal and pakistani government finally submitted their reply in the court saying that they are not cooperating and they will not cooperate in the future and there is no consent on drone strikes to do for the court to give very categorical order to the government of pakistan to tell america that they will be nor more drone strikes in pakistan and if there are there will be consequences for

our rulers as well and what are the prospects for the us i think there are good prospects i think this judgment of push our high court threw wide starts to to prime minister moshe in the washer if to take up the case of drones with the americans and settle it now it's for the americans to listen to reason and if they don't then i'm not sure that what options prime minister is left with because we've had a prime minister in recent past who's been sent home by a court of law for not abiding by the decision of the court so then promise to sharif will be running the risk of being sent home this is exactly what we'll be doing of the drone strikes continue mr doesn't do much on drones he doesn't tell the americans to stop it he doesn't order the box on the military to shoot it down . and we have northern option but to go to court for contempt of court against him she's out of bar human rights attorney here in islamabad thank you so much for

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