tonight indefinite wiki leaks founder julian assange marks one year now at the ecuadorian embassy in london saying he's ready to stay there longer too even if the sex crime allegations against him are dropped because he's still fearing extradition to the u.s. . president obama calls for a nuclear arms reduction asean brace's world issues during a keynote speech in berlin while the euphoria over his politics appears to fade with many in germany. and a series of blasts at this munitions depo rocks a small town in central russia it's killed one person and injured over forty more.

if you just joined us this hour very good evening for me kevin i would this is r.t. international live from moscow just after ten pm here now first wiki leaks founder julian assange hasn't left the ecuadorian embassy in london for a year and he says he's prepared to stay longer even if sex crime allegations he's facing in sweden dropped. his extradition to the united states where he's angered officials by publishing washington secret documents details of the whistle blows year long confinement there is r.t. center of. well it's been one year. period knightsbridge and lungs and now the wiki leaks founder. of the u.k. supreme court these two really put his appeal against extradition to sweden where he's wanted for questioning over allegations by two women sexual offenses allegations which he denies but it's been one year and any insight on

this bill is that we very rarely get a glimpse of what goes on behind those we've been able to speak to today in a son's himself to find out how he's feeling one year old. every day that we've been our principles we truly. considered this when i was in solitary confinement. prison. for. my. full force that is worth the most and of course. for a while your ability to act very important to keep your ability to act in various ways and i have kept my ability to actually organization preserves its ability to act. these struggles but i'm very comfortable and happy with what we have accomplished and i'm sure history. started and used to manage very very well with.

all the other day until the sun sinks. behind me with foreign minister he's been visiting him ahead of his meeting with his u.k. counterpart william hague's nazi with us to the press conference held by acquittals foreign minister immediately afterwards the ecuadorian government will continue to ensure that julian keeps receiving the protection we're giving him under asylum in our country protecting his life his personal integrity and particularly his freedom of expression. his confinement continues but the wiki leaks founder hasn't. he's made numerous appearances throughout the world's media and of course continue to make sure that his message of support for whistleblowers continue to be heard and perhaps even providing inspiration for some of the more recent high profile whistle blowers in fact speaking recently about the n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden julian assange has called him

a hero indeed many to describe. the wiki leaks founder believes that there's already a sealed indictment for him in the united states smith refuge of his mansion after he was released on bail in late two thousand and ten and he thinks that washington is actively looking to make an example out of the most prominent whistle blows. mr lynch you know hasn't be as unseen a ray of sunshine in a year i mean most prisoners will see sunshine most days so he might as well be in a prison and he's also been there for a year and the you know unfortunately he sent to sweden. for some reason and proof if you. alleged to have done something but you know if that materializes allegations materialize he would be very likely receive a years imprisonment and bodies in effect. if you think there's no risk of action then was very difficult to see why mr assad can't go to sweden i believe there is

a real risk of extradition i think america wants to make an example of people like a songe as it is doing of other whistle blows that we know like bradley manning who's clearly being tortured and being treated extremely poorly and isn't allowed in his court case to bring in aspects that would be very good for him i mean you are and you're expected as a soldier to report. you know war crimes and a lot of what he is reports constitute war crimes. may well there's been no breakthrough in talks about the fate of the phone it was supply will tell you what that means the forum on our website r.t. dot com also we recently sat down with the signs to get his thoughts on his father was a blow and how the government's like to respond from now on a case you missed that full interview you gave to me the fact you can still watch it's on our website you can log on anytime you like we welcome. but. blockaded by britain i am here today because i cannot be.

our year of asylum in the united states the focus has shifted to other were suppliers now bradley manning is on trial and edward snowden is just revealed the scale of the n.s.a. spying program and his going to can look at how washington's fight for the keep a veil of secrecy will justify its operations to the american public at the same time. america is split on edward snowden traitor hero mixed in between but regardless of what anyone thinks about snowden his revelations have shed unprecedented light on the u.s. government's massive spying program even if you're not doing anything wrong you're being watched and recorded a former n.s.a. employee william binney was prosecuted as a traitor when he blew the whistle on the government's sweeping collection of data and communications it's setting up a tele tarion state when the government has that much information they can do those things they can use the i.r.s. to intimidate people or anything else they can send the f.b.i.

. what they did to me and some others bradley manning too is being prosecuted as a traitor although it's so here's your logs that the public learned about the. collateral murder was committed in iraq the obama administration has prosecuted more whistleblowers under the espionage act than all previous administrations combined but it was a lower say it's not government persecution that they fear the greatest fear that i have regarding the outcome. for america of these disclosures is that nothing will change the administration is not trying to convince the american people that government secrets programs are a trade off they have to make in the name of national security they always have the same stories about you know science manning's known you know psychological stories what is wrong with these people cause them to do this i mean the real question is what is wrong with everyone else from who doesn't see what they can see but whistleblowers are not the only targets there is an obligation both moral but also

legal i believe against a reporter that was the chairman of the house committee on cutting teligent in terrorism peter king calling to punish the journalists who expose the government surveillance programs in its hunt for leaks the obama administration has already targeted it's it's trying to set the precedent. the communicating with the media is the same as communicating with the enemy and if the death penalty if it did miss ration doesn't have to go after each car or each certainly it's enough to create an environment of fear but while that fear stop information from coming out here's edward snowden's answer that by. gracious draconian responses simply build better whistleblower. in washington i'm going to check out. coming up per row of a piece in afghanistan president karzai stop security talks with the u.s. after washington looks to the taliban for reconciliation with more analysis on that situation coming up in a few minutes time. an expert was in berlin for the first time as u.s.

president prepared not enjoying his warmer welcome as he did back in two thousand and eight he was met by protests against the u.s. eavesdropping following those revelations of the n.s.a. sweeping global surveillance with germany indeed among those most affected another group of activists meantime were rallying in support of those hunger strikers at guantanamo bay you've been refusing food for over four months now and what test is wearing orange jumpsuits called for detainees to either be formally charged or released it is keynote speech in berlin obama called for the closure of the prison again as well as touching on a whole range of international issues as artie's peter all of the reports. president obama received a far cooler reception on his latest visit to lynn than he had received five years ago back in two thousand and eighty two a huge crowd of over two hundred thousand people to come and hear him speak this time around four thousand and those were hand-picked mostly american students diplomats and other personnel that were penned

in around the brandenburg gate what main issue that bracket bomber picked out to deliver in his speech was that of an increase in getting rid of nuclear weapons he said that the current start treaty between the united states and russia was already doing very good work but he said he wanted to do a lot more he wanted to see the amounts of weapons reduced by a third to one third and said that he'd be speaking to the leadership in russia or one of the major issues that overshadowed in some ways the historic nature of. his visit has been the n.s.a. spying scandal germany was one of the countries targeted the most by prism that snooping device of looking into emails and phone calls and alerts prompted a lot of demonstrations ahead of barack obama's visit and also cheering them while

he was giving his address not brandenburg gate the amount of security that is being on the show here i'm in is well pretty much mind blowing it's been in place pretty much since friday a huge police cordon separating the area around the brandenburg gate from the rest of central. was a wreck that resource life was on rooftops and people pretty much not allowed to get anywhere near to there was also fences a huge glass protective shield put up to make sure that nobody who hadn't received one of those four thousand invitations. the president the speech that was being given it brandenburg gate and with so many demonstrators coming out to cheer the the u.s. president as opposed to those who came to cheer him five years ago well that's why the organizers deemed that type of security necessary in order to keep them away from where the president was delivering his speech. artie's people all over the

rushes reacted to a bomber's proposal to further cut nuclear arsenals the deputy foreign minister says quote the current start treaty should be fully implemented first and quote he also said russia and the u.s. have to find a solution to existing problems over america's missile defense shield in europe while the head of the state duma international affairs committee alexei pushkov thinks that obama's ideas need more work nuclear arms reduction is a matter for the distant future as he put it well many in a barber's audience in berlin today said they came away under the impression analysis from. her in chief for the german su worst news magazine either we wonder in press two or did he win you over. and over doing well and we see a big difference between obama's first visit to berlin in two thousand and eight where almost two hundred thousand people where visiting his speech today where four thousand six hundred people where chosen for listening to him but i think it's not

so important for him to win the hearts of the population it's more important for him to win the heart of our chancellor angela merkel and of the mainstream media and of course of the established politicians and the deutsche upon the stock and i think this is what he has until today this was not a big challenge for him what role did he charm her out of the trees than today i mean what do you think happened after that speech what what do you think merkel will have taken away by chrome tonight is it over. well the problem is that they are right now a lot of problems between germany and the united states a lot of things short be mentioned and they should be mentioned in the heart in a strict way but this does not happen we have the example of the spying on germany or the prism affair but we what we just hear from our chancellor is so it's kind of a protest we don't see any diplomatic consequences because of this so it's long it

keeps like this it's not a problem for barack obama and it's not a problem for the washington politics where the justification used to cause obama is there to help save lives that's not going down so well though that's not been greeted so so warmly is just a vacation in germany is it. well we hear a lot of nice words about this prison approach it but we should watch a little bit back we had in the ninety's the echo on pro chick with a call on scandal and they call an approach it was also u.s. american spy approach it was used for. german companies we have to see now the prism of fair s. we have to see if they called on the fair as a sort of post war against germany but the german politics as long the german politics is not seeing this as a scandal and as something which has to be corrected immediately it's long this doesn't have the u.s. the united states and especially barack obama doesn't have any problem you jumped ahead to be there slightly i was talking about the n.s.a.

spy scandal but you've gone on to mention what germans think of guantanamo. i think the germans who are following. things happening around guantanamo are very much disappointed because we remember very well when delivered his speech in two thousand and eight he promised already to close guantanamo and he promised already in his first us american election campaign so what. who else loads more if not the u.s. american president who else can do this and as long he's just promising it and talking about this and no action is shown i think that nobody will believe him anymore what about the issue of a nuclear arms reduction that was mentioned today. from russia what germans think about. i think that barack obama was mentioning the nuclear weapons. agenda because he wants to impose himself again that's the peace not the price

winner but i think we heard a lot of nice words but we didn't see any actions just to mention that until today on sherman soil u.s. american nuclear weapons this is still since the end of the cold war i have to remember that the russians the soviet union was withdrawing their weapons and their army in one thousand nine hundred one they finished with the withdraw until today we have fewer american troops in germany germany is a sort of us american air carrier in the center of europe and of course we have until today american nuclear weapons on german soil so if he wants to show action it would be quite easy for him when he fly specked today to united states to take the us american nuclear weapons with them or at least to give the order to do this . thank you for the. news magazine thanks for your time. still to come as a huge trip started with the g eight summit in northern ireland where world leaders

peace talks in syria with their final statement have a call for the president to leave we follow that up very shortly. but next. to russia. started at least forty one of the injured in a series of blasts in a fire in central russia witnesses now reporting fresh explosions to. over six thousand people been evacuated from. the highest that's where the first blast went off on shoes day night time still in the state of emergency. is following the latest. two thousand people are now involved in the operation at the scene rescue is fine manned mission expiries helicopters and tanks have been used as well but despite all the efforts unfortunately it looks like that blaze still continues the rescues have only managed to stop the fire from spreading it's not contained but again it's a huge area on fire almost impossible to get in for rescuers right now because of.

possibility for the explosions but yes a little to do with the war snoozes that explosions are continuing we've been here and have a blast happened just recently and this is actually the war scenario the officials have expected because as you know the incident happened at the site where two eighteen. to repeat have been stored at the time when explosion happened when a well it's very hard to actually predict right now how dangerous the situation make turn but it's clear that no one can say when or if the next blast may occur and to the really a chance that they haven't had any moment and people could be heard of course the situation in time machine right now is very dangerous for rescuers lives and we've been receiving we do from witnesses on the ground with the blacks and again heavy heavy explosions and people who are actually in this area got used to all kind of

incidents there live in a near test side. by the situation you have to multiply all those you can see on these videos by tiny pieces of exploded chalice flying all over so it's a movie actually it's very dangerous. scary place to play will these plus inches pascal the latest in a series of explosions at military sites in russia let's take a look at the most recent ones in fact several plus the. rangers in the orenburg region last year all of them during unloading missiles as they're being prepared for recycling while less than a month ago to an explosion at a decommissioning plants in these for the last region left to. work is injured there all of being blamed on a failure to comply with safety regulations all of this of course a major concern for russia is of urgency committee which has stressed the issue of ensuring safety at military sites. just a moment we're looking at why the afghan president's taken office at the u.s.

offense rather at the u.s. and how turkish protesters are developing a new form of resistance coming up shortly. they are not talking about language at all but i will only react to situations i have read the reports for like. the no i will leave that to the state department to comment on your latter point. to carry out a car as are you talking welcome. thank you no more weasel words. when you need a direct question the prepared for a change when you when you should be ready for a. freedom of speech later on down to freedom to watch.

shaky peace process in afghanistan is under threat with president karzai suspending talks with the u.s. on a new security deal the move comes in response to washington's u. turn decision to open direct negotiations with the taliban their first formal meeting set to take place indeed in the militant organizations new office in qatar on thursday only hours after claiming to be ready for talks with the u.s. the taliban then said they carried out a deadly assault on an american air base the latest in

a string of terrorist attacks may well have come forces have taken the lead to the country's security paving the way for the u.s. is complete pull out in twenty forty and a furnace phyllis bennis from the institute for policy studies explains the taliban never said that they would stop fighting despite agreeing now to negotiate. taliban position is very much a reflection of what was the semiofficial position of the united states during the negotiations with vietnam after nine hundred seventy three the henry kissinger led peace process so-called where the us talked about how we will negotiate as if there were no war and we will fight as if there were no negotiations this is what the taliban are doing neither side has agreed to start fighting the taliban is not the us is not so i think the one who gets left out in the cold here is the karzai government and of course there is a serious problem for cars i because and. he has come back against the united states and said we're cancelling talks not only

a round these doha processes but we're canceling talks with the united states over the stationing of troops after twenty four fifteen or so far that turnover to the afghans is far more rhetorical than it is real there are still sixty six thousand u.s. troops forty thousand nato troops more than one hundred thousand u.s. accountable contractors or mercenaries occupying afghanistan so the notion that somehow this means an end to the u.s. involvement in the war is simply not true turkish police have detained dozens of people across the country to try and end the ongoing anti-government protests security forces use water cannon overnighted the suppose the demonstrators told reporter anchor a report coming up now from tom. koger the other day is going to be a test here the ticket scandal and the street having to come sit on the nightly stand on seemingly police and the test is weak and tests was finally at least

posts like these boys here and the extent that many cash is going we need it testimony. because the. people who think she's old enough to want it seems at least or at least it removes all those elections i want to see this guy last night see how to fix for six decades or they could do well if he is planning to make it seem. like he's the saltus take it badly it certainly looks he has a lot of sick talk so the only way out of these protests to. become. the party they need to let me in the politics is reach the losers so to speak his point i was on the spoons and that was what struck me was me see

a power cut. now these live pictures of a show on the screen that we're getting from istanbul's taksim square i do believe they are right that's the scene there now we've seen people gathering they have many staging a silent standing man protest of course we refer back to that guy that says he's taking a stand he stood there is a performance artist and everyone's kind of got around in the well this is a new form of peaceful resistance the spreading for the let's get more from a gallop dulé from the foundation for political economic and social research center joins us now from ankara hi there thanks for being with us how would you describe what's happening now in turkey. thank you well first of all the latest for. the latest from of the proud which is that you know taking place in the form of a standing still man is a walk on the well you know the transition from a violent protest like you know some some of the most violent at least to have like a peaceful style of standing still and still man is

a welcome development and it's you know in a democracy actually. what they're like you know sorry about the international criticism of how turkey and the turkish police have handled the unrest where you have you seen it. well two things i mean like you know the criticism of the police handling of the issue has also been criticized that has also been taken into consideration in turkey as well but we have to divide these process into like you know couple terms like initially especially like you know at the initial stage the protests were mainly were mainly peaceful and well meaning like focus for environmental issues however at that stage that the excessive use of force by the police has turned this issue to security and thus has been criticized and recognized. the turkish the turkish political establishment and the government as well but however after a while we also have to recognize that the whole process has not been

a peaceful so you have seen of confrontation which has been violent. at this stage that you know taking at that stage intervention by police was necessary in order to you know make sure that the public is intact so it is like the whole there isn't a monolithic group of protesters but there was a peaceful one which was mainly environmental also there is that you know the extremist groups far right or far left settle scores with the government through this process how long should the public really read there were no you know of this week recently threatened to deploy the military to deal with the unrest. how large the public. recently threatened to deploy the military to deal with the unrest president of new well actually. there is a misunderstanding it was not prime minister it was a deputy prime minister but it was taken out of the context so one of the it was an

answer to a question by a reporter like you know would that would you also military in order to you know to quell the party and he said that you know the cases in which the military can be deployed is written in the mall so if something like that happens which is not happening right now is you know that will be the case but there today he also like you know once again said is that you know it was taken out of the context and there is and there would not be any case of military in that entire visit. or write a research assistant in turkish politics at the center foundation thank you very much for your time. you're welcome thank you now r.t. spoke to a turkish lawmaker who's been accused of mishandling the protests to kill each is a region like a party representative he says the government stealing with those who have more than just environmental concerns. these rallies are not about the park gives the park protesters want to punish democracy and freedom in turkey and are looking for

a way to demolish the ruling party early on supporters stage the biggest rally just days ago which shows the people support for the government the police were not good at dealing with protests at the beginning but later they were doing their job properly. it. has been widely condemned for the level of violence even riot control methods are not quite what they seem is a really good reports next. nothing like some cold water in the heat of the moment to ease tension or so you'd think in turkey however when water is being used to quell street riots it can prove to be a health risk is water cannons have made an appearance at almost every single protest over the last two weeks in turkey the water is supposed to have a somewhat cooling effect on the crowds but lately the protesters have noticed something different about the stream it's not just its priority color but the aftereffects that the water leaves on people who come in contact with it. i felt water on my back on my right arm at first i didn't get any feeling i just got wet

and then it started burning and i asked my friends what should i do they said take off your clothes and i did it and i saw that my skin had turned red and it was itching and it started to burn ditches from the internet allegedly shows something called janick sabine put into the water tanks of the cannon the manufacturer is based in istanbul but when we got to their office we found a vast array of area fresheners and no one who would talk to us about the substance on camera the manufactures website claims it's not harmful to people or the environment but turkey's association of medics disagrees of course that is not acceptable and even the go no if you stumble admitted that something was added to the water cannons and he described it well yes a drug is being added but is that a chemical and nobody knows what that means but the chemical is being got its effects from the chemicals may last for several hours to

a couple of days doctors however remain worried the combination of pepper spray and tear gas as a means to control the crowd may have long term effects on people's health. to god and it is difficult to take the first effect of what i experienced in the park is a psychological effect i'm not able to sleep or to drink also i have many injuries from police violence i still feel down sometimes i have a headache and i feel like i'm not a healthy person anymore on top of that medics question the legal aspect of chemicals used by the government during civil unrest some how many countries including pretty are still considering tear gas. it is not constant he gets as a chemical weapon but in one nine hundred sixty nine these gases and similar gases are regarded as chemical weapons and now we have to start anew comping to prevent the use of as in turkey but until such you complain comes into effect people in

turkey are left wondering just which chemicals movie be showered with every time they hit the streets in protest in istanbul in an r.t. . ten thirty two moscow time not just strong the cold hoping stay with me would have deeper the g eight summit on exam the world cup protests boiling across brazil still south of the break. series is just not a dreadful civil war it is now a regional conflict with red lines multiplying in a very dangerous rate obama's decision to directly are members of the anti assad coalition is a bold step that could lead to a greater disaster how can more arms and greater outside intervention bring about

peace in this war torn country choose your language. call it make it without any federal official some of. the consent she. chooses to give to use the degrading to. choose the stories that impact the. child's access to. to build a. mission to teach.

brazil deploying national security forces in five of the country's major cities now the ongoing unrest there's seen police clash with hundreds of thousands of protesters angry that the government splashing out on hosting the football world cup while at the same time hospitals and transport remain underfunded the rallies into the second week with more expected in the coming days a number of cities in brazil responded to the country's largest street protests in years by capping bus. let's see what you think about it what do you think the root cause is here the protesters all say they've made some headway by what i've just said that the authorities appear to be listening in some places well this is what you think is behind it twenty seven percent of you think is the government to blame mostly blaming government inefficiency and corruption. just over a quarter of us say it's result of a foreign plot to destabilize latin america fifteen percent he's been hovering about the same or might between them think it's because of the global economic slowdown nearly the same number put it down to the hike in public transport fees and indeed those world cup costs had to r.t.

dot com you can make your voice heard let me take you through some of the global world news headlines now next she were and twenty two people have no reportedly been killed and scores wounded in a gun battle at a u.n. office in the somali capital mogadishu the victims include insurgents you employees and a civilian woman reports say a suicide bomber detonated himself while driving past the compound militants then stormed the facility firing weapons al qaeda linked rebel group al-shabaab has claimed responsibility for yourself. floods or killed at least one hundred thirty people displaced thousands from their homes in northern india the army's leading rescue operations it's also helping thousands of stranded pilgrims their travels been cancelled across the region of the fears of further rains and landslides drenching downpours as usual for the region but this time they've hit the north of the country in a much heavier scale. talks. since has been discovered in groundwater at japan's fukushima nuclear plant tests show radioactive elements of broken permitted levels

by about thirty times environmentalist are now sounding the alarm of further toxic leaks reaching the ocean it is the latest in a string of incidents that struck the plant since that earthquake and tsunami caused a reactor to melt in twenty eleven flood three reactors. the g eight talks in northern ireland who are as expected dominated by the syrian conflict in their final press conference world leaders agreed to work towards peace talks to end the civil war but surprisingly stop short of demanding president assad leave his polly boy corrupt said summit. the final outcome hailed a success in the deadlock over syria yet for some of the summits participants it was a better experience than for the elders it had been billed as a game of seven against one of the final joint statement made by all the leaders at the summit about syria perhaps an indication that russia's stance isn't that easy to ignore the focal point of the outcome

a peace conference to bring together both sides of the syrian conflict and get them around the negotiating table as soon as possible but what that joint statement didn't include was a call for bashar al assad to step down something that david cameron and barack obama have been very vocal about neither was there mention of the so-called red line that barack obama has talked of last week when he claimed that the u.s. had evidence about the syrian government's use of chemical weapons and that they had made the decision to arm the syrian opposition however what did become clear that russia isn't the only country that isn't convinced by the usas claims that the syrian government have used chemical weapons putin said that all the g eight leaders wanted to see more proof as well the russian leader also reiterated that russia's arms shipments to syria that have caused so much concern in the west are entirely legal we provide supplies in line with

a fictional contract to the legitimate government of president assad when the possible weapons supplies to syrian rebels by european countries the british people recently witnessed an outrageous tragedy when a soldier was butchered in broad daylight in the streets of london many in the syrian opposition not all of them of course criminals like the ones that conducted the violent killing do europeans want to supply arms to these people what will happen to these weapons. we have all these arms and you could end up back in europe that's why we call in our partners to think twice before they take this extremely dangerous step at the same time on another edge of the result david cameron had a few quick questions to answer about why the leaders final statement didn't contain any of his usual anti assad rhetoric what we don't want to happen in syria is for the regime to go in for chaos to follow that is what happened

in iraq and no one wants to repeat that one thing that everyone agrees on is that the only way to solve the syrian crisis is through diplomacy and peace talks but that's exactly what this has been talks about more talks and with no date for geneva two pencilled into the calendar leaders leaving a lot heard might well be wondering what exactly they've achieved probably boy care see northern ireland. well western powers are talking about arming the rebels they videos of merged on the web allegedly showing young people trained to be part of a syrian opposition force is footage is hard to verify apparently it shows teenagers receiving weapons and ammunition training to fire guns it's thought the camp could be run by al-qaeda or at least shows a unit between them in the syrian rebels those youngsters can also be heard singing that the turn the world trade center into rubble and that they'd be honored to be called terrorists john lott owns the institute of democracy and cooperation and

piracy says arming the rebels would make the conflict even worse. we've seen things like this before and i don't think there's any doubt certainly there's no doubt in the mainstream western media that the islamist element in the syrian opposition is predominant so it confirms what we know about the syrian opposition which there which is that it is principally islamist and much of it terrorists here in union and the americans who start to arm then the rebels will be encouraged by the ship you arms there will be obviously the courage that comes from political slaughter well and the fighting will increase and i'm afraid people are absolutely astonished that the g. eight countries the western countries should continue to take the position in northern ireland at the g eight summit or so this decision which is no a month old but which has as i see it to be put into operation to arm the rebels

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a whistleblower mr benny thank you so much for joining me so first of all let's talk about the latest information that has come out from this n.s.a. spying on americans well first of all the the fight's a warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data from verizon and. that's that's been going on according to the paper anyway since not a two thousand and seven and this is like being renewed every three months so if you look at the top corner top right corner of that order it's thirteen dash eighty that means it's the eightieth order since in this year of two thousand and thirteen so when you start to say well what are the other seventy nine orders you can figure other companies and and this is like the second order of two thousand and thirteen for each company so you know that maximum you would divide eighty by two and maximum number of companies that could be involved in this kind of order would be forty. so but i'm sure that there are other other things that they have other

orders that they're issuing other than just this kind for the service providers or the telecoms so let's talk about the nine internet companies that said that they are part of this this prison program should americans really be surprised at this but i'm not that's for sure but i would point out that. the n.s.a. had deployed naris devices and it's in court documents submitted by mark klein documenting the n.s.a. room in the in the san francisco bay t.n.t. building where they had naris devices in a splitter that basically duplicated the fiber optic lines and would send him down to pass all the information went down two directions one of them went to the nearest devices in the n.s.a. room and so those nevers devices could take everything off that fiber optic line. which meant they could get one nearest insight device can do ten gigabits a second which meant it could reassemble a quarter and a million and a half and

a quarter one thousand character emails a second and that's the kind of input they would get from one device now i'm sure they have multiple devices at multiple sites in the country as well as other places in the world so that's an awful lot of data to try to manage and so they need to do things like build bluffdale to plan for the future so they have lots of storage for all this data coming in so how far down the rabbit hole are we are we really just at the temp of the iceberg in terms of their spying with this prison program coming out in the horizon records tim clemente who is an ex f.b.i. agent came on c.n.n. about week or two ago and he said that the any digital data wasn't wasn't safe and that the intelligence community f.b.i. had ways of getting back to it and he was specifically talking about that phone call between one of the marrow of brothers and his wife. and if his wife didn't tell the f.b.i. what they talked about in that phone call that they had ways of getting back to

that and transcribing and getting that information so that's telling you what they've got recorded then the extent of a digital data means all kinds of e-mail all kinds of twitter kind of things and anything going across the fiber optic lines as well as the public switch telephone network so we're not talking billions of pieces of information here are we talking truly talking to my phone calls and e-mails jointly would be on the order of twenty trillion for the last twelve years how can we even manage that sort of thing they're saying with this present program for instance they have one lawmaker after another supporting it saying that it helps ward at least one terrorism attack how would trillions of emails and twirl eons of bits of data help find one terrorist attack my personal view is that the intelligence community is bamboozling congress and the administration they are telling them that we have to do this in order to find the bad guys in the networks and i just absolutely false

you don't have to do that there were ways and means to do that and i left that ability in capability with them and they just threw it away so instead they opted to collect every but everything they could about everybody in this country and one of the reasons is that they would want to do that the only one i could think of is they wanted to be able to leverage anybody in this country for example. we could take the case of the i.r.s. and that in the tea party and the harassing they're doing there one of the one of the people who is being harassed was giving testimony in front of congress and they said. which i thought was pretty revealing that they had a question from the i.r.s. that said what is your relationship with this other person and they gave the name. well how would they know that unless they knew this these the community the communications community you know that person so that means you're getting back to this program where they're pulling all the records of phone call and emails and everything together and seeing who that person worked with in an on top of that it

gave them the ability to pull together the entire tea party so you would know everybody that's involved in the tea party peripherally or centrally now this new president program says that if the agents who are and employing and he's have a fifty one percent confidence that it's a foreign agent a foreign person can you talk about that accuracy how can we even guarantee it is fifty one percent really enough well that's another joke ok. these are all jokes i mean they expect people to believe this i mean there are two parts one is the public telephone the public switch the p.s.t.n. public switch telephone network and then the other is the internet or the world wide web. on the one side you have phone numbers now these phone numbers whether they're whether they're your landline phone or your mobile phone or your satellite phone all connect into this public switch telephone network and those numbers are in the world and you're talking about switches that are routing these

communications from one point the earth to another and they have to know exactly where to send so you know exactly where it went and exactly where it's coming from . so there's no question that he shouldn't have fairly ninety nine point nine nine nine percent accuracy on identifying that something happens and they have electronic blip and they used lose part of the information and the other thing is on the on the on the world wide web here again they have attributes that are part of the worldwide system that identifies those people uniquely in the world like the i p v four i p v six you know addresses that are assigned by the n a and the five regions of the world and that kind of clearly tells you if you don't have that then every system every device whether it's a switch a server or a computer has a mac number or that's a machine access code which identifies you uniquely in the world and the same would

be true in using username and service provider combinations like william binney at comcast dot net something like that those kind of attributes identify where you are and where you're coming from so let's talk about the companies the nine internet companies that are allegedly involved and that's they are involved in this. how would they say that they didn't know that this was possibly happening under their watch first of all is that even possible that they didn't know certainly it's possible that some of the people in those companies didn't know but i find it hard to believe that that wasn't already agreed to that they that that company somewhere in the company or the c.e.o. or c.e.o.'s knew that and agreed to this kind of access. because it's hard to believe that they could not not notice that they're being drained of information. that's pretty difficult so what can we really do to protect ourselves is there anything we can do to protect ourselves here there's not really anything you can do

i mean except to. fire everybody in congress and the administration and elect new people in that will that will do a constitutionally acceptable job and speaking of congress how much did they know how could they be ok with it how did so much of this just start coming out with the verizon leaks with this prism how are we just finding out about this and ministration that tells transparency well it's because not transparent i mean that they have secret interpretations of laws and they're doing this in secret and not telling anybody i mean senator wyden and udall have been complaining about this for several years now. so they were on the intelligence committee so those in committee said an idea what was going on but rest of congress didn't have the foggiest idea what does the patriot act mean to american freedoms it means we don't have any it's setting up a tele tarion state. when the government has that much information they can do those things they can use the i.r.s. to intimidate people or anything else they can send the f.b.i.

people what they did to me and some others you know so that's the power that government has they have that they have the power of the gun and the force and if they had the knowledge about you then they can start to use that against you especially if you don't agree with the policies that they're setting up so let's go back to the foreign intelligence surveillance act as a lot of us know it though we're going to the first sort of that act is foreign and that was built back in the seventy's that it applied to foreign enemies then but in the thirty year sense for your sense we seem to apply to americans more times than not will we see the same thing happen with president yes absolutely that's what's going on that's what's been going on for seven years with the prism program but even before that back to two thousand and three the naris devices were collecting that data now what that meant was they didn't have enough naris device to collect everything so they had missing missing bits of it like they might get eighty percent of the e-mails sent you know and not all of them so in order to get them

all they have to go to the service provider who stores all of them for a certain period of time and then have a warrant to request to get them so that will fill in the gaps that they're missing when you were working for the n.s.a. talking about you had to help create a program as i understand it that some want to present for our foreign enemies did you know about president you know i mean prison didn't i left n.s.a. in two thousand and one and at the end of october in a prison program according to the paper anyway was started in two thousand and seven so i didn't i didn't know about that but i was you know that data was very simply. filtered out using techniques that if this was a u.s. citizen you throw that data away if this was a foreigner that wasn't within two zones or two degrees of separation in close proximity to a bad guy doing bad things we wouldn't even look at them ok we've throw it all away . and that meant that we didn't we reduce the problem of all the massive amounts of

data down to a manageable amount so we wouldn't need to build bluffdale or any other large storage sites we could easily manage the storage as well and if you collect all that that means wherever you collected it then you have to transport it from there to your storage so that we eliminated that communications cost too so now instead of throwing that america's data out there keeping it so is it is simple as just getting rid of that algorithm to help them fraud out and sort through it that algorithm would of course be able to eliminate that data yeah if they adopt it and finally just working for the n.s.a. and the past do you regret that or does it give you the knowledge of what the n.s.a. has done so that you can do it in a report to people in the future no it was i don't regret anything i was doing because i there were real issues real threats and real potential threats that we had to try to discover to see if we you know you you could diplomatically or

whatever ovoid them so so i mean that was a very positive effort against the real potential threats so it had nothing to do with collecting data or information about innocent people around the world so i mean it didn't i didn't regret doing any of that but the problem was they turned that against everybody and that's where i have a problem well the name does that thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. and turned whistleblower thank you so much for joining us we appreciate your time sir thank you. a highway builds on the bones of its maker it's the winds through one of the wildest and most beautiful regions of russia a place that's home to less than a million people and the keepers of the great frosts. join me james brown as i

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