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smartie at ten pm don't break up with britain the charm offensive to keep scotland part of the u.k. is on the foreign secretary hague giving a keynote speech to lure the scots ahead of their independence referendum. test as if brazil gear up for what they promise will be their biggest rally yet after the government fails to curb the rest by reversing public transport. and stop the force feeding of hunger strikers in guantanamo doctors were around the globe call on president obama to allow the prisoners independent medical care.
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hello there live for me are to new central moscow thanks ever so much for your company it's appreciated my name is kevin now in our top story then tonight the u.k. government is campaigning to win hearts and minds in scotland ahead of its historic referendum on independence foreign secretary william hague has given a speech in edinburgh to try and persuade the scots the safer stronger and better off with britain and his r.t.e. sarah firth report sees only added fuel to the debate scottish independence. think that really a good thing that will today it will in the century that have bred to around a hundred fifty delegates the more wolves and stuff is that it might be in it he said that he tried the scottish independence is met around the world he said it is possible in the full sense he's laying out some of the negative implications a vote for independence could have used in the yes campaign we want to see scottish independence approve this relentless campaign of negativity and they say they want
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to break the economic strangle the west is a bit economic reasons this is not a cool thing if you will coming up time and again experts easily divided on how these resources would be worse still to become independent you're going to see this debate forcing up there as the twenty fourteenth day week ever nearer but what do the people of scotland think will continually in the polls say well you see the yes campaign is pulling a fair bit lower because they still say that everything's the playful what is interesting a lot of the people we were speaking to saying that the debate unfolds like new takes a little less on the strong rhetoric a little more on fox it's still a bit of confusion over exactly what a day that independence would mean down focus the hague the foreign secretary with kids today to try states without a very clear terms why he feels scotland will be safer as part of the u.k. we've been speaking to some of the people in scotland to find out what they think
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i'm against it you're against it yes and i don't think it's going to be any benefit to us whatsoever do you think the debate has been to the well laid out the people know no more money you know i think it needs to show more benefits of. what in bring to as everyone came in to pay into the economy go their unionist party and i think the freeing of ignored scotland for a long day where william hague says that when he travels the world people heard but will goodbye. the fact that scotland wants to be such a successful lenient would you say to them well i can imagine we had william hague travel stephen he travels the world have you properly set sail in singapore and polices let us know when i travel the world people ask me how come an independent country only scotland as ruled by a government and never let kids off the city on the heels of the seven the choice next to her government and i'm dependent on i think the rest of us. well the recent polls show most a third of scots would like to break away from britain with the yes vote support
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reaching its highest level in almost two years though around sixty percent would still vote no with one in ten scots still undecided let's talk more about this with jonathan shall we say that of the radical independents campaign either jonathan so as i just said the majority of scots still don't actually want to part with the u.k. how are you going to convince the fifty nine or so percent to think your way well the first thing is says a measurably have attained the tories intervene into the debate i mean there's a reason that there's only one elected to the m.p. well though you said today he needs no benefit to the people of skoal what we are proposing. measures which would increase the standard of living of people who play scotland at the center of international peace for example we've been disarmed trying to nuclear weapons and we would spend that money on the schools on the hospitals on our public services we would have no truck with illegal immoral wars
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like we see in iraq and been be sending our young people off there to kill and to be killed we want scotland to play a positive progressive and peaceful in the world all of the things that william hague stands against on his big part of britain that bad for scotland. well if you look at what we have just knows we have waste men start a cabinet of millionaires who unleashing the most brutal package of a state and say that this country's ever seen so our public services are being decimated our services are being privatized and there's a democratic question as well i mean no one has given the mandate to basements to to do this and to school when no one's given the tories the mandate to count the sorts of measures the accounting and scotland and we want to put forward a progressive agenda which actually puts people at the center of that to be rather than the millionaires and the tories and the people who've been running our society into the going for too long but nonetheless scotland is part of a successful family if you could want to put it like that six largest economy in the world in a major political power surely. putting it to you i'm not saying i believe this but
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show me scotland is better to belong with britain oh. well i think if scotland had its own public over the economy its own powers over critical issues like defense then we could play a much more productive middle on the what stage when for example imagine the message we send out to the what if we were to get rid of trident nuclear weapons imagine the message it would send it to the world if we were to say that we're not going to be engaging in any illegal immoral wars like we have seen over the last ten years but also imagine if we were to invest in jobs give you an example scotland has an abundance of potential when it comes to the new bill energies we could put people in to want and to good jobs into well paid jobs which also have a socially useful benefit all of these things are off the agenda when it comes to waste minister and a family on the agenda if we want independence it all sounds great but is it achievable is there a danger from falling into a black hole is this maybe you know national pride of a practicality. well i don't actually think that the key going to be as one of
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national identity i think the key issue is about economic inequalities about inequality of power is about democracy is about our role in the what those are the key issues i think that people will be making their calculation as to whether they vote yes or no and mohit today has not laid out anything which would convince ordinary scottish people of the benefit of waste months in fact if you look at the whole raft of measures which are currently affecting people's lives things like the bedroom tax where people will be evicted from their homes things other things for example like the privatization that we see in england of the n.h.s. we want to oppose all of these things and we want to think about how we can vote something far more positive no you can build something far more positive if you cut yourself off from one of the most internationally known and could opt institutions politically not waste mr mimo higgs says that is often standing in the world and so on so forth actually basement is known as being one of the most inefficient and one of the most corrupt and situations and politics not least because if they'd outlaw
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recently because of their stated measures put through as i said by cabinet of millionaires who knew nothing about it no use of only people jonathan shafi thanks for making a point to a fractious group the radical independents campaign thank you. while the u.k. has been warning scotland it could suffer a financial collapse if it goes are low british banks pay to be struggling to balance the books they need to raise millions of pounds to cover their risks according to a warning from the u.k.'s financial regulator we've got a report on it shortly. next the focusing on brazil. rest continues to run becomes authorities of reverse the decision to increase public transport but the u.-turn seems to come too late to appease demonstrates his they're angry over the government's high spending on most of next year's football world cup while same time health care and education remain severely underfunded the rallies that lead to the most violent in a decade but the biggest day of protests is probably only to come so just
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a blog. still close told me the turmoil is no different than the rest and. all of crisis of the global financial capitalistic system and of global finance capital what global global finance capital is capable of doing is sabotaging the democratic rights of local populations due to the sort of i guess dynamics of the flows of global capital what global capital seeks to do in cities and brazil and turkey are actually textbook examples of what geographers like david harvey called the right to the city struggles for the right to the city where global finance capital tries to homogenize public space it tries to. make cities very very similar to smooth capital flows and overriding and in most instances the local populations rights to decide over things the questions that are being put on the table are very
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broad questions not just in brazil but in turkey and in most of the places where we're seeing. things that actually have a lot more in common than just the fact that there are uprisings and there is the occasional about instance of police violence what we're seeing. it is actually uprisings that. in the case of turkey and brazil in particular take single issues. that are sort of the straw that breaks the camel's back if you will and or the glass that sort of the drop of water that kind of breaks the surface to surface tension and overflows the glass and kind of turn into a broader indictment of global capitalism. the taliban say they're ready to release a captured u.s. soldier an exchange for five of its members locked up and going ton of obey the announcement puts therefore the u.s. in a precarious position as it tries to get the afghan government to join peace talks with the militant group meanwhile there are calls for president obama to hold the force feeding of detainees at the prison and to allow them to receive independent
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medical care as required by the u.n. and got to keep you can report from washington. the new way and the world medical association demand access for independent doctors to guantanamo detainees more than one hundred and fifty doctors including from the u.s. have signed an open letter to grok obama urging him to allow access to independent medical examinations and advice here's what they write it is clear that the detainees do not trust their military doctors they have very good reason for this is you should know from the current protocols of the joint task force guantanamo which those doctors are ordered to follow the orders they receive or alternately your orders as their commander in chief without trust safe and acceptable medical care of mentally competent patients is impossible the above mentioned protocols describe the procedure for speeding that the doctors are obliged to administer at guantanamo it involves a tube inserted through the nose and down the throat of the detainees on hunger strike and those who are being force fed and guantanamo describe it as
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a very painful procedure to which they gave no consent actually it is the opinion of the u.n. commission on human rights that force feeding is a lawful and torture when it's clear that it's a protest and a last resort for the detainees because before the hunger strike became impossible to ignore one tunnel was out of sight out of mind and washington was happy to keep it that way the u.n. has repeatedly called on the obama administration to stop the practice of force feeding and fix the underlying issue of this hunger strike which is indefinite detention the entire international community has called on the us to either try these people or let them go shopping tubes down their noses doesn't fix the problem . well one of the people who signed the petition that open letter to the u.s. president. he's a professor of neurology at the university of edinburgh joins us now live from scotland thanks for being with us and what do you think is going to change it for independent doctors medics are loaded in the shoulder there is professional
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military. issues is this as doctors we're we're trying to see if it's especially difficult for us to understand when a patient wishes to refuse treatment and and it in effect and up ending their life if as a doctor you damned force them to accept nutrition against their will and he said if you treat relationship you would hope to hang out with sanitation is irretrievably broken because you've not acted on their behalf you back you don't someone else's behalf by assaulting them and so all we're keen for is for there to be independent medical advice so that people can act as physicians to these people to advise them about the different steps that it might take if not actions that it might take time to allow them to make informed choices about their health which are then carried through into actions rather the situation i.e. that or are you at the end of the day if you send independent medics in there
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either one of those prisoners said we want to take this through to the and your view then is that it's better to let that prisoner take it through to the end and die. yes yes unfortunately as if people are all sound mind and come to the conclusion that dying is worse than our current situation whether that be intolerable illness or in total detention that are the prospect of trial it is appropriate that they be allowed to do it so why is the u.s. military force feeding these prisoners is it is it good well or is it better to punishment from one of about a i think i think that's a political question above my pay grade but if i was going to speculate i think that it would be somewhat embarrassing for there i'm not a minute station where numbers of guantanamo inmates to die as a result of our strike and i suspect that that's a situation which they're seeking to have or. you on the line ok we know you know
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next point on this you know you're a medic but how do you think the u.s. is able to justify the prisoners indefinite detention despite many of them being cleared for release years ago what are your personal thoughts on that i think we live in difficult times and see to do what they can to protect themselves on these prisoners and americans aren't the only people who are of a strike around the world just now i think it's critically important though at that stage when they act in their own interests and their own defense is treat individuals with the integrity that they would wish their citizens to be treated with where the boots on the other food and it was american prisoners in kabul or wherever and the idea that you always see people was humanity which you would wish your citizens to receive because i think critical to the state should because that's the should but do you think anything is going to happen any time soon to guantanamo we most recently had a judge in washington now saying that guantanamo prisoners should be able to
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challenge their detention in court but on the day you think that's going to change anything that yes it will eventually it's going to change they can keep these people there into other geriatrics going round and zimmer frame so they remanded doctors and the guards knew it will it will change over time the question about going to station is whether now. what will be politically difficult steps of ending it now who or whether the data dr lawrence wright god harming the reputation of united states around the world while. he was there will be just the same sort of a cloud real pleasure in the program thank you a professor of neurology at the university of edinburgh as you are thank you thank you. i just ahead we report on the risks facing the u.k.'s financial health and so one of many stories we've got lined up for you in this continuing hour of news from our team moscow.
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focusing on turkey now took place if used water kind of disposing of a large protests in the capital ankara dozens of the rest of it made across the country as authorities try to put an end to the three week long on rest and witnessed this latest crackdown. this crossroads in the center of ankara was filled with protesters just a few minutes before it might be hard to believe it now is totally empty you can see one of the police vehicles up there still using its water cannon against the remaining few protesters the police charged in here with two vehicles firing tear gas everyone in the square choking on that having to dive for cover and water cannon blasting everything around they've left branches funding or trees and debris and water all over the streets protesters who had been gathered to try and
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demonstrate their anger at having to scatter into side streets all around here very shocked by the sudden on rush of these police vehicles in this particular spot has marked nightly confrontations between police and protesters some might say some onlookers might say really proving what protesters might be saying that the police really overreacting some of the protests here it's not quite known what exactly that set off the police but protesters absolutely saying it's this kind of british police response that has them out on the streets protesting in the first place mr erdogan one of his supporters for their part calling some of the protesters terrorists implicating possible foreign involvement in their funding and saying that they don't represent a large part of the turkey turkish populace he does have a fair point in that around half of the turkish populace polls indicate do support
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him and we tell a new form of peaceful resistance to government action a silent standing protest following that standing man is spreading across turkey yet violent clashes are still happening in major cities with authorities defending their efforts to try to restore order gallup delis a researcher in turkish politics he told me police have to deal now with protests is the do not share environmental concerns but of course all this started off with . at the initial stage the protests were mainly were mainly peaceful and were merely focus for environmental issues over at that stage that the excessive use of force by the players has turned this issue into a security one and the us has been criticized and recognize. the turkish turkish political establishment as well but over after awhile we also have to recognize that the whole process has not been a peaceful so you've seen all of confrontation which has been violent on occasions that that's the intervention by police was necessary in order to make
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sure that the public. showing to give you protest. on the line from hi there thanks for being with us i guess some people would say what do you expect the police to do when the being faced with. rocks stones they're going to do something but what's your thought. well they've been pretty tough responding to all the protesters reactions even when there was no throwing of stones or amounts of cocktails there's really while in using that water cannons and tear gas canisters and sunday was the violence i would say i was i was at the protest since may thirty first and sunday was it was the most terrible there was a saturday night and sunday especially when they started arresting people in front of my eyes were protesting on the streets so they were pretty they were pretty terrible and now it's kind of feels strange that nobody is reacting and nobody's
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doing anything just standing or sitting or reading books and taxes here and elsewhere but it's good to get your viewpoint because you're actually very often here are reporters pretty good to hear some of this actually sitting there listening this is it is one sided maybe as some of the protesters are saying that the police have been so heavy there's no calls for it it was a completely well. that there was there is there a blue. can you repeat the question and yet you see this one sided as some people some of the protesters are saying it is it all the police given the aggro of reporting it as a human being what you've seen her just tell us what you see. what i've seen says thirty first of may i've seen a lot of violence i've seen police being brutal in terms of arresting people in terms of tear gassing people and in terms of using water cannons on them and there's been no kind of softening on their stance and tell us the park was actually
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taken by the people by the protesters or police actually retreated from gezi park ever about ten days it was quiet it was it was almost like a festive atmosphere and gezi park and it was nice not to have the police and not to have tear gas even though everybody was joking that o two net we missed a little bit of tear gas maybe tomorrow we'll have some more but eventually one when the violence broke out again on tuesday and then erupted again on saturday and sunday it was it was it was certainly a one sided show of force because police was obviously they were outnumbering the protesters and there were so many of them and they were sending additional forces from the regions outside of turkey and obviously it was it was specifically to silence the protesters even those who were still protesting and nonviolent matter tell us a bit about the silent protest they were talking about it all started around this guy the starving man as they called him this. performance art used to there for hours on end but it really got people's consciousness it's spreading now but end of
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the day is it really an effective way to express your discontent yet may be peaceful but what's the message getting across is of enough. well for many people actually the standing that was and you hope because on sunday when when all the protesters were violently dispersed and there was a really hard rain and assemble all of a sudden the next day when. we had the standing man on the square it was almost like on awakening another awakening among the protesters and a lot of standing man and woman then joining the protests in the past few days in addition to small gatherings organized and held in smaller parks and their residential district so. there have been smaller gatherings since i would say monday in areas well nobody can go to texans park but there are a lot of people were gathering in their smaller parks and talking about the issues of the past three weeks talking what's next talking about their future and how they
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can do something to not lose the momentum and continue fighting for their rights and freedoms so to speak. thank you. know the u.k.'s financial health is at risk with its top banks in need of billions of pounds to fill a hole in the balance sheet revelation by the country's financial regulator come shortly after report calling for criminal punishment for bankers reckless misconduct following the story of these testers solutions in london to look at the troubles of britain's banking sector. this twenty seven billion pounds that's about forty two billion u.s. dollars that banks need to find to fill in that gaping hole is what financial regulators had found basing it on the new guidelines that was agreed upon by international central banks after the two thousand and eight financial crisis if we remember we saw then the collapse of some of the world's biggest financial institutions some of the needed bailouts taxpayers' money getting involved there
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and this report that we know that the guideline says that now two percent previously two percent equity that banks should have has been raised to seven percent thereby creating this hole in the balance sheets of what concerns financial regulators most right now is the world bank of scotland r.b.s. having a thirteen point six billion pound a hole to plug and let's not forget r.b.s. is already eighty one percent old by the government after having received a bailout so this is certainly a sensitive topic when it comes to the bank banking or performance and how they actually manage their finances and this is again on the back of that report coming from an independent commission set up to investigate behavior of reckless behavior as you pointed out called changing the banking of for good at this if it is passed into law could mean that some baxter's bankers that are accused of reckless behavior could be sent to jail it also questions put to belittle and governments
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and regulators to implement these laws so as not to render all of the useless when trying to find a twenty seven billion pounds the question there is will the measures that the banks have already put forward r.b.s. and barclays saying they're confident they will be able to plug this hole will those measures be enough or will there be a need to go again to external funding and once taxpayers' money gets involved it will certainly a few have a few nerves that once again the question is who is going to be footing the bill at the end of the day. we're looking for ways to boost economic growth reform the global financial system and strengthen trade. reform which we caught up with russia's deputy prime minister. here this in pieces by international economic forum we are talking about international prices on the domestic market here in russia and because we have the g eight summit taking place this week a lot of those topics that doma knowing their way here to st petersburg so right
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now i'm joined by the deputy head of the russian government the walkabouts to talk about the g. eight and the topics it was spoken about there and as far as the economic agenda was because what did you take away from it as usual when i was working the short before winter to ensure proper leaders have discussed in detail how the global economy stations the challenges that all the major countries are facing and one of the challenges is. transparency or for global finance this money being used by institutional investors by banks by large companies how they pay taxes so how this affects his to station to particular country in the lives who are going to take some privacy requirements and i seems it's where it's important development coming down on offshore as was a huge topic calking rush to do this and is it possible to get this money back to
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the home economy major. challenges to improve the station in the russians it's a key instrument to bring money back to you know going to use law enforcement most or something like that it just requires it to. make influence on the investors and committed to lose and in reality how much money are we talking about in the real dozens of billions of dollars of new investments in the to create new more than jobs in the rushing all the surplus are starting from the traditional and the very. nature resource development you know very innovative sectors like the aircraft ship building. communications space medicine medical services from from a suit that goes against all change. a lot more ahead including the use of brad pitt showing up at the moscow international film festival course with the two that's on a with a couple minutes from now that. speak
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your language. programs in documentaries in arabic in school here on. reporting from the world talks of the interviews intrigued school.
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or you. arabic to find out more visit arabic. hello good recent comments from senior israeli cabinet members expressing skepticism over a two state solution of prompted angry responses from both the palestinians and the israeli ruling coalition and the country's deputy defense minister says moves to promote the peace process will be carried in parliament he was joined by the trade minister who echoed that statement a call for a faster an exaggeration of west bank territories this led the palestinian president mahmoud abbas to accuse the israeli government of trying to avoid pace but the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu slightly they will be on screen in a minute insisted that he shapes foreign policy and once the two state solution to go ahead however this war of words means little to scores of suffering palestinians
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whose homes are being blocked off by walls of thick concrete. that story. the walls might be coming down in the rest of the world but here in israel they're going up there's one along the country's border with egypt there's a fifty one kilometer one around gaza there's one in the pipeline next to jordan and the newest friend here is being fortified along the lebanese and syrian borders and then there's the most famous the controversial so-called separation wall that encircles the west bank of course it was the fact that israel is defending itself and preparing itself for possible future attacks towards the borders of israel and assess it and also it seems from attacks even closer to home it's not only on the borders but also here inside israel twenty minutes away from tel aviv jews and arabs have lived side by side in the israeli city of lard for generations but in
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one part of the city they're now living on opposite sides of a concrete wall we met a time the horn on the jewish side he builds wars for a living but they usually the decorative type used for exhibitions and parties he and his jewish neighbors battled hard even dipping into their own pockets to build this wall our neighbors next door. they are making a lot of trouble to us the people here there are farmers and they have land growing . with or something else and they used to. burn everything. drugs they come to our house. drugs they want a lot has the highest homicide rate in israel police say it's because of infighting among arab families but the families say that's nonsense. there is no reason to
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build this war besides racism they build it because we are arabs it bothers me they did not leave us any room and they do not even on this land. abdullah. one of those who now finds himself on the wrong side of the wall i already made of the much too severe arabs and always build a wall if there are no arabs who don't build a wall that is really as argue they was all meant to keep terrorism and illegal infiltration out both dropped ninety percent after the barriers went up but palestinians insist the wars keep them under siege and are used as an excuse for annexing palestinian land wars in the name of the game of his. virtual wars and real wars the feeling is that it's the israelis more and more getting into the tool there is still will be the war there are immigrants from africa will be there war every single be solved by building
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a war and above all the world is against us let's build a wall israel's physical isolation gets clearer by the day a country that could soon be completely enclosed by steel concrete and barbed wire policy our for our tea in large city israel. if you mess around our course you must catch up with the headlines are much more online r.t. dot com is a quick look at a couple stories and i feel hunted by america upload from the kim dot com it's now reversing roles accusing the us government avoid cause the largest massacre of data in the history of the internet find out what's going to open arms to dot com. also those well those fastest growing economy goes to extremes for a cleaner future china now introducing the death penalty for those who dared to break the nation's environmental protection laws. use a brief now this first off security forces clashed with protesters in lebanon when
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police blocked the way to the parliament scuffles broke out as people vented their anger at lawmakers in beirut who want to extend the legislature for a further eighteen months the parliament already proposed the election in two of the concerns the conflict and. syria may inflame tension in the country. the co-founder of file sharing website the pirate bay has been sentenced to two years in jail got for involved is accused of hacking and online money fraud the twenty eight year old however denies all the allegations against him on choose to a swedish court ruled that all can be extradited to denmark where you face several extra hacking charges for downloading a large number of files from a danish police database. singapore is choking in huge amounts of small with levels of pollution in the air breaking all previous records the city is obscured in a haze right now where the smell of burning wood hangs in the air it's believed to have come from indonesian forest fires and is now forecast to blanket the region for weeks the phenomenas become a point of contention between the two countries who are trading accusations with
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each other over it. india is another country taking a beating from mother nature to unusually severe monsoon rains have killed over a thousand people there now buildings roads bridges and vehicles in northern states and swept away by those floods well that about india is that militaries leading a rescue operation to reach thousands of people trapped by landslides in a valley near the in malaya mountains. happy news the moscow international film festivals kicked off with hollywood legend brad pitt still in this show on the red carpet tonight are expected to premiere is a new movie in the russian capital to our tab i must say i was there. what breed of the bullet the back and see the cool am i here after the break up and for the thirty fifth that i knew old must the international film festival way suspecting a round of five hundred foreign guests i hear walking this way top it with all the fans behind us obviously sorry for whoever it is yet if it's one of their favorite actors or actresses from home old up brought the man of the out today was brad pitt
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who made here that saddling up here into the sun me that but no you feel oh you're right you. feel like i'm with my good my tool is going to break even when the time in the sun. but if a cop never fan really. great. we also had christian slater able to catch up with them early on and this is what he had to say it's great to come out and get the opportunity to say hello to some people and they're all great just they're beautiful so i'm thrilled and this is a great film festival so i'm thrilled to be here while you know you want what's the one thing that you're looking forward to in terms of being here in moscow we just want to get you to come back a little bit more well you know i got to go to the underground that's the they say the underground is really beautiful and i know that's something i have to go do so before i leave on going to take a nice metro ride with the run of three hundred sixty fold films or to go through
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in the next ten days because i want to though we have to bring an hour into taping expert martin anderson thank you done for us on how this is going to work out monson we've been seeing a glam out and lives on the red carpet you and i can so obvious out they'd see airing of the crowd a little bit how important is it this film festival first of all i have to say that russia knows how to do a glamorous occasion don't they i mean the russian women tonight have just been sensational of course we've seen brad pitt himself in all his glory and it's quite interesting to see how he took a. so much time with the fans as well when it comes to your question the answer to that is well obvious the film festival began all the way back in ninety five in fact when the oldest film festivals in the world bridget was into its prominence until nine hundred fifty nine when it alternated every year until nine hundred ninety five when it became an annual. annual event where we gave christian slater
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a circle on ticket for the moscow underground we are still buzzing around then in his element coming up exclusive interview with n.s.a. trailblazing whistleblower with new with william binney that's on air after this break. sigrid laboratory. was able to build the world's most sophisticated robot. fortunately doesn't sound anything tunes mission to teach creation why it should care about humans. this is why you should care only on the dot com.
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we've got the future. i'm sitting here with mr william benny he's a thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. who helped design a top secret program he says broadly changed american personal data and he actually
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helped crack those codes and enter into this he is now a whistleblower mr benny thank you so much for joining me so first of all let's talk about the latest information that has come out from this n.s.a. spying on americans well first of all the the pfizer warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data from verizon. that's that's been going on according to the paper anyway since not two thousand and seven and this is like being renewed every three months so if you look at the top corner top right corner of that order it's thirteen dash eighty that means it's the eightieth order since in this year of two thousand and thirteen so when you start say well what are the other seventy nine orders you can figure other companies in and this is like the second order of two thousand and thirteen for each company so you know that maximum you would divide eighty by two
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and maximum number of companies that could be involved in this kind of order would be forty. so but i'm sure that there are other other things that they have other orders that they're issuing other than just this kind for the service providers or the telecoms so let's talk about the nine internet companies that said that they are part of this this prison program should americans really be surprised at this but i'm not that's for sure but i would point out that the n.s.a. had deployed naris devices and it's in court documents submitted by mark klein documenting the n.s.a. room in the in the san francisco bay t.n.t. building where they had naris devices in a splitter that basically duplicated the fiber optic lines and would send him down to pass all the information went down two directions one of them went to the nearest devices in the n.s.a. room and so those nervous devices could take everything off that fiber optic line.
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which meant they could get one nearest insite device can do ten gigabits a second which meant it could reassemble a quarter and a million and a half and a quarter one thousand character e-mails a second and that's the kind of input they would get from one device now i'm sure they have multiple devices at multiple sites in the country as well as other places in the world so that's an awful lot of data to try to manage and so they need to do things like build bluffdale to plan for the future so they have lots of storage for all this data coming in so how far down the rabbit hole are we are we really just that the tip of the iceberg in terms of their spying with this prison program coming out in the horizon records tim clemente who is an ex f.b.i. agent came on c.n.n. about a week or two ago and he said that any digital data wasn't wasn't safe and that the intelligence community f.b.i. had ways of getting back to it and he was specifically talking about that phone call between one of the tomorrow of brothers and his wife. and if his wife didn't
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tell the f.b.i. what they talked about in that phone call that they had ways of getting back to that and transcribing and getting that information so that's telling you what they've got recorded then the extent of in the digital data means all kinds of e-mail all kinds of twitter kind of things and the thing going across the fiber optic lines as well as the public switch telephone network so we're not talking billions of pieces of information here are we talking truly talking to my phone calls and e-mails jointly would be on the order of twenty trillion for the last twelve years how can we even manage that sort of thing they're saying with this present program for instance they have one lawmaker after another supporting it saying that it helps ward at least one terrorism attack how would trillions of emails and twirl eons of bits of data help find one terrorist attack my personal view is that the intelligence community is bamboozling congress and the
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administration they are telling them that we have to do this in order to find the bad guys in the networks and i just absolutely false you don't have to do that there were ways and means to do that and i left that ability in capability with them and they just threw it away so instead they opted to collect every but everything they could about everybody in this country and one of the reasons is that they would want to do that the only one i could think of is they wanted to be able to leverage anybody in this country for example. we could take the case of the i.r.s. and that in the tea party and the harassing they're doing their one of the one of the people who is being harassed was giving testimony in front of congress and they said. which i thought was quite revealing that they had a question from the i.r.s. that said what is your relationship with this other person and they gave the name. well how would they know that unless they knew this the the community the communications community of that person so that means you're getting back to this
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program where they're pulling all the records of phone call and emails and everything together and seeing who that person worked with in an on top of that it gave them the ability to pull together the entire tea party so you would know everybody that's involved in the tea party perfectly or centrally now this new president program says that at the agents who are and employing him and his have a fifty one percent confidence that it's a foreign agent a foreign person can talk about that accuracy how can we even guarantee it is fifty one percent really enough well that's another joke ok. these are all jokes i mean they expect people to believe this i mean there are two parts one is the public telephone the public switch the p.s.t.n. public switch telephone network and then the other is the internet or the world wide web. on the one side you have phone numbers now these phone numbers whether they're whether they're your landline phone or your mobile phone or your satellite
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phone all connect into this public switch telephone network and those numbers are in the world and you're talking about switches that are routing these communications from one point the earth to another and they have to know exactly where to send it so you know exactly where it went and exactly where it's coming from. so there's no question that he shouldn't have fairly ninety nine point nine nine nine percent accuracy on identifying that something happens and they have electronic blip and they used lose part of the information and the other thing is on the on the on the world wide web here again they have attributes that are part of the worldwide system that identifies those people uniquely in the world like the i p v four i p v six you know addresses that are assigned by the n a and the five regions of the world and that kind of clearly tells you if you don't have that then every system every device whether it's a switch a server or a computer has
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a mac number that's a machine access code which identifies you uniquely in the world and the same would be true in using username and service provider combinations like william binney at comcast dot net something like that those kind of attributes identify where you are and where you're coming from so let's talk about the companies the nine internet companies that are allegedly involved and that's they are involved and that's. how what do they say that they didn't know that this was tossed the only happening under their watch first of all is that even possible that they didn't know certainly it's possible that some of the people in those companies didn't know but i find it hard to believe that that wasn't already agreed to that they that the company somewhere in the company the c.e.o. or c.e.o.'s knew that and agreed to this kind of access. because it's hard to believe that they could not not notice that they're being drained of information.
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that's pretty difficult so what can we really do to protect ourselves those are anything we can do to protect ourselves here there's not really anything you can do i mean except to. fire everybody in congress and the administration and elect new people in that will that will do a constitutionally acceptable job and speaking of congress how much did they know how could they be ok with it how did so much of this just start coming out with the verizon leaks with this prism how are we just finding out about this an administration that tells transparency well it's because not transparent i mean that they have secret interpretations of laws and they're doing this in secret and not telling anybody i mean senator wyden and udall have been complaining about this for several years now. so they were on the intelligence committee so those of committee said an idea what was going on but rest of congress didn't have the foggiest idea what does the patriot act mean to american freedoms it means we don't have any it's setting up a tele tarion state. when the government has that much information they can do
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those things they can use the i.r.s. to intimidate people or anything else they can send the f.b.i. people what they did to me and some others you know so that's the power that government has they have that they have the power of the gun and the force and if they have the knowledge about you then they can start to use that against you especially if you don't agree with the policies that they're setting up so let's go back to the foreign intelligence surveillance act as a lot of us know it though we're going to the first sort of that act is foreign and that was built back in the seventy's it applied to foreign enemies then but in the thirty year sense for your sense we seem to apply to americans more times than not well we see the same thing happen with prism yes absolutely that's what's going on that's what's been going on for seven years with the prism program but even before that back to two thousand and three the naris devices were collecting that data now
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what that meant was they didn't have enough naris device to collect everything so they had missing missing bits of it like they might get eighty percent of the emails sent you know not all of them so in order to get them all they have to go to the service provider who stores all of them for a certain period of time and then have a warrant to request to get them so that will fill in the gaps that they're missing when you were working for the n.s.a. talking about you had helped create a program as i understand it that's similar to prism for our foreign enemies did you know about president you know i mean prism didn't i left n.s.a. in two thousand and one and at the end of october and the prism program according to the paper anyway was started in two thousand and seven so i didn't i didn't know about that but i was you know that data was very simply. filtered out using techniques that if this was a u.s. citizen you throw that data away if this was a foreigner that wasn't within two zones or two degrees of separation in close
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proximity to a bad guy doing bad things we wouldn't even look at them ok we throw it all away. and that meant that we didn't we reduce the problem of all the massive amounts of data down to a manageable amount so we wouldn't need to build bluffdale or any other large storage sites we could easily manage the storage as well and if you collect all that that means wherever you collected it then you have to transport it from there to your storage so that we eliminated that communications cost too so now instead of throwing that america's data out there keeping it so is it is simple as just getting rid of that algorithm that help them fraud out and sort through it that algorithm would of course be able to eliminate that data yeah if they adopt it and finally just working for the n.s.a. and the past do you regret that or does it give you the knowledge of what the n.s.a. has done so you can do it in the report to people in the future no it was i don't
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regret anything i was doing because i they were real issues real threats and real potential threats that we had to try to discover to see if we you know you you could diplomatically or whatever avoid them so so i mean that was a very positive effort against the real potential threats so it had nothing to do with collecting data or information about innocent people around the world so i mean it didn't i didn't regret doing any of that but the problem was they turned that against everybody and that's where i have a problem well the named as a thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. and turned whistleblower thank you so much for joining us we appreciate your time sir thank you. ultimately the limo that ultimately lead
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