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n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden in moscow after touching down on board a flight from hong kong r t the airport to find out the next move in his dash for political asylum. is diplomats have reportedly met snowden at the airport but it's unclear where exactly he'll go next some sources suggest he's already checked in on a flight to cuba and from there further on to venezuela. as the hunt for snowden crosses continents n.s.a. leaks piling up with new allegations that even barack obama was monitored by the n.s.a. was running for senate. and r.t. looks at the resemblance between the place of snowden and julian assange gen washington struggle to prevent a torrent of secrets from being revealed. seven
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pm in moscow i'm mad good to have you with us here on r t we're updating you on our breaking news this hour n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden wanted in the u.s. for espionage in moscow after getting off a plane from hong kong has been told diplomats from ecuador met him at the airport but it's still unclear where the whistleblower is headed next he's reportedly already checked in for an onward flight to cuba it suggested a van will be another transit point on his way to another country much speculation as to what vat country is his final destination some sources suggesting go to ecuador some to venezuela for more on this we go live to share metro airport paul scott standing by with the latest take it away. well as being i don't have to do no of speculation and hearsay but this is what we can confirm edward snowden touched
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down the sentiments of apples. at around five fifteen local time on an inbound flight. from hong kong he has been greeted by diplomats from the ecuadorian embassy the ecuadorian ambassador also inside. where he is thought to be meeting and greeting edward snowden the next move however is unclear not just in the long term but also in the short term there are many possible exits at the airport which snowden could emerge from there's a throng of press gaggle to wait to my right hand side where the ecuadorian embassy car is. it is going to be the car that will take him away from. this man and photographers around that anticipating his next move however there are some rumors circulating that his paperwork isn't in correct order and that edward snowden doesn't have a visa problem which could hold him up inside the airport for many many more hours to come if there is even some suggestions that he could be holed up inside the
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airport until his next flight which i suggest is to cuba to havana apparently he's booked in on a flight on monday so he could remain. before going or without even going to any embassy in the meantime now how is this all come about well of course in the last twenty four hours outside the white house confirmed that they began negotiations with hong kong about extradition proceedings however it seems that the hong kong authorities decided to let snowden leave the chinese territory. russia's stance on the situation is that he is edward snowden was to seek asylum in moscow then he was case would be treated the same as any other despite his high profile and rather extraordinary nature. and edward snowden we do know inside behind me with the ecuadorian ambassador as for his next move he's going to keep us guessing all right paul scott thanks very much for that update live for us from
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sheremetyevo airport. in the search for asylum and joined by peter tatchell u.k. human rights out. abbess thanks for joining us here on our t.v. so we had said snowden is on a safe route for how long do you think that will be able to keep him safe. but i'm sure the united states will be doubling its efforts to try and intercept him and to get an extradition from whatever country they can i think the context of this is that the united states spies on its own citizens it also spies almost a distance of millions of other countries i mean millions of people in other countries and this is done without the permission of those countries it is technically illegal and what is extraordinary is that it would snowden was employed by the united states as a spy yet now they are seeking to arrest him for spying it seems complete enough
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pocket see when the united states is spying on its own citizens and citizens around the world on a massive scale without proper governmental interest oversight you know within the united states or other countries around the world. and now julian assange has really injected himself into the story here so to speak why do you think we can weeks is getting so involved into it well i guess for the point of your life you look at regulates this as another example of obvious or blower who is seeking to expose wrongdoing by the united states and to ensure that the american people and people worldwide know what united states government is doing when the united states government wants to keep all its activities secret unaccountable and without proper oversight by congress or indeed by the wider civil society i think this is a knowledge as to the general songe case and also to the case of bradley manning these
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are three. both wrongdoing by the united states government and military. actions have been taken without transparency without accountability without the knowledge or consent of the american people which i wrote all three of them for seeking to expose wrongdoing in the united states which the american people and the people of the world have a right to know very well couldn't that connection between snowden and wiki leaks be a liability for snowden that you're tatchell can you hear me. ok because i don't know anybody just i don't think anybody is suggesting that it was put up to this by wiki leaks he has acted independently as far as we know here is the one that will go up over his conscience to expose what he believed were just an actual actions of wrongdoing by his government i think that the case is
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that from a lot of the leaks but the common thread or sort of private manning is that this is about whistle blowing on actions taken by the u.s. government in military which of not being given public or governmental oversight. all right peter tatchell we've kind of lost our signal there but thank you very much for your time thanks for joining us thank you well we've gotten information from airport sources saying that snowden will spend the night at the airport and wait for his next flight we also know the ecuador said diplomats to the airport after snowden landed artie's say is outside ecuador's embassy here in moscow she's got the latest for us from that location to have you tell us more. well matt it's definitely been a game of cat and mouse yeah between snowden and that's the media trying to figure out his next move as you've just said that a word from our sources is that the best of ecuador is add to the airport right now
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with snowden trying to figure out how what his next move is an early on iran for all close most of time the ecuadorian diplomatic cars left here at the ecuador embassy suggesting that indeed he they were the diplomats that were there to read snowden at the a for the of course all right now we don't know if he might be coming back here or not but what i can tell you right now is that the media is starting to build up here suggesting that they're also thinking that he might be coming back here at some point in time in the next couple of hours in the next couple of days who knows but what i want us to remember is why the ecuadorian embassy is such a magnet play in this story is because of one whistleblower a world famous was a blow a julian a son who was helped out by the ecuadorian embassy in london jenin a son who was wanted by the swedish government to a sexual assault assault sexual charges that he denies and
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obviously he said that he was a concerned that sweden wanted him to go to free to increase in order food for them to actually extradite him to the united states away he would face charges against some of those cables that really he leaked of military as well as diplomatic cables he then sort of asylum from the ecuadorian embassy on june twelfth two thousand and twelve which they could or in the government decided to give granting him the reason they did that is because they said that they were quite reassured that he might be extradited to the u.s. and then would face a trial and unfair trial and perhaps be subjected to i'm fair treatment and hence that is why he's still holed up at the door an embassy in london for this past year now this of course we know that we can leaks has been in the background trying to help snowden hands the speculation that ecuador. might be his final destination it could be venezuela of course all it could be key to at this point we don't know what we do know is that the ecuadorian ambassador is a with snow day and we'll have
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a lot of that once we get it and bring it to our audience back to you matt on the right thanks very much abbi for that update warrior i spoke with journalist paul la mar who says if snowden decides to move on to ecuador it would be a good choice for him to seek asylum there we don't know but it would make sense the cube root venezuela all of the past bill which is popular here for julian assange who's been sitting in the ecuadorian embassy in london for nearly a year now waiting to go to about come true what do you think the odds are that he may actually follow us on his route and go to ecuador. i think it's reasonably high goes the ecuadorian government have this position i think venezuela is a bit more unstable at the moment since the death of chavez and the nature of relationships with other countries isn't so clear but i could or i think is we are fairly firm about this solid position so i would guess it would be good. for
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snowden over in a statement hong kong his government claims it had no reason to stop snowden and also said it was clarification over allegations the u.s. had chinese targets r t contributor off things no developing nation would just agree to hand snowden over. chinese american relations it just goes to show how poorly those relations are going because that arrest warrant went out the complaint under the espionage act and under international law as the united states might have it and of course the hong kong government ignored it as most developing nations would they realize that the united states and the way it's been operating is something like a tallit tarion strait and so many ways i suppose averse stub united states were using their back channels trying to get through to xi jinping saying what an earth is going in hong kong they released this espionage act complaint what is it unauthorized communication of a national defense information and immediately the chinese government cooperates
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your language might be well enough at the end of. the program some documentary some spanish matters to you. a little turn to bangalore story. here. spanish. visit. staying with us we keep you updated on our top story this hour whistleblower edward snowden the search for a political asylum he's currently in moscow waiting to fly on to cuba and yet another unknown destination for his part u.s. senator charles schumer has criticized president putin for allowing moscow moscow to become a transit stop for snowden moscow says it wasn't even aware of snowden's plans from
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washington i'm joined live by artie's guy an h.d. kyon with more so guy and a tell us what's been the reaction from washington so far. oh man there hasn't been an immediate reaction from the white house but we heard comments from some lawmakers here senator chuck schumer was on this morning say the president will do as aided and abetted snowden says skip creating their quote putin always seems almost eager to put a finger in the eye of the united states then you have another senator lindsey graham saying where she will face consequences if it harbors edward snowden now we don't know whether it was already so planning on staying at russia from the reports that we're getting in transit on his way maybe to cuba he might spend the night at the embassy open a swell though or ecuador in moscow but those are unconfirmed reports at this point so instead he would seek asylum in a country that would not be easily pressured by the united states we know that the
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u.s. has put a lot of pressure on hunt contour rest note an end to it not to letting the the country is saturday president obama's national security adviser expressed some confidence that he would be extradited but in a statement the government of our own concept is quote u.s. doctrine patient did not fully comply with the legal requirements under one common law it also says no to the left quote on his own accord for a third country so a lawful and normal channel but also in the state same statement the government of hong kong there they want more information about the hacking of computer systems in hong kong by u.s. government agencies something that was part of snowden's revelations so in this official statement we see how hard conk shift the focus from the messenger edward snowden to the message to the revelations that he has made demanding explanations from the u.s. government and those revelations have been groundbreaking u.s.
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government meanwhile is interested in spoken saying on the messenger of the obama administration has charged more with that lowers with espionage then all of the previous as an administrator. just combined all the whistleblowers including snowden maintained that they have made the revelations for for the public good for the public to be able to make informed decisions as they say more about that in my report. america is split on edward snowden traitor hero mixed in between but regardless of what anyone thinks about snowden his revelations have shed unprecedented light on the u.s. government's massive spying program even if you're not doing anything wrong you're being watched and recorded a former n.s.a. employee william binney was prosecuted as a traitor when he blew the whistle on the government's sweeping collection of data and communications it's setting up a tele tarion state. when the government has that much information they can do those things they can use the i.r.s. to intimidate people or anything else they can send the f.b.i. people what they did to me and some others bradley manning too is being prosecuted
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as a traitor although it's so his war logs that the public learned about the. collateral murder was committed in iraq the obama administration has prosecuted more whistleblowers under the espionage act than all previous administrations combined but it was a lower say it's not government persecution that they fear the greatest fear that i have regarding the outcome. for america of these disclosures is that nothing will change the administration is not trying to convince the american people that government secrets programs are a trade off they have to make in the name of national security they always have the same stories about you know manning is known you know psychological stories what is wrong with these people cause them to do this i mean the real question is what is wrong with everyone else from who doesn't see what they can see but it was a low as are not the only targets there is an obligation both moral but also legal
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i believe against a reporter that was the chairman of the house committee on cutting teligent in terrorism peter king calling to punish the journalists who expose the government surveillance programs in its hunt for meeks the obama administration has already targeted its it's trying to set the precedent for the communicating with the media is the same as communicating with the enemy and it's a death penalty offense the administration doesn't have to go after each other or he certainly isn't up to create an environment of fear but will that fear stop information from coming out here that we're snowden to answer that question. conan response is simply build a better whistleblower. in washington i'm going to take on. bush era whistleblower russell tice as i did to snowden's revelations you confirm the n.s.a. is storing data and named its targets among them former cia general david petraeus and even barack obama when he was running for the u.s. senate james corbet of japan based independent journalist thinks twice as
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revelations didn't get the attention they deserve. while the snowden drama unfolds something that's being swept under the rug are these new revelations from n.s.a. whistleblower russell tice who is in fact one of the people who is one of the sources for the original two thousand and five new york times story on the n.s.a. wiretapping scandal at that time but now russell tice to step forward with more information into explosive interviews from the last few days he talked about how the the n.s.a. is in fact storing not just the metadata which has been the talking point in the news so far but the content of all electronic communications that are going across the u.s. servers from e-mails to faxes to phone calls all of it being stored now at the new data center and in utah he also went on record to name names of some of the specific targets of n.s.a. spying and with the implication that this information was being used for blackmailing purposes on including senator then senator barack obama including a general david petraeus and others who we mentioned by name including supreme
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court justices and top ranking military and republican congressional officials let's get more on the hunt for edward snowden from antiwar activist don de bar thanks for joining us here on our team so know that snowden is on the run so to speak he keeps also dropping leaked data every once in a while kind of like a trail of bread crumbs do you think he can continue staying a step ahead of the u.s. . i can only hope so the revelations of course are. extremely important to people around the world to understand the nature of the us state and its interest in monitoring everything that goes on they have already declared it's been ten years now that they've declared they want to monopolize information total information awareness and control and we find in these revelations that they've actually been exercising that for quite some time as a matter of fact it goes back to ash a lot of the late ninety's when they began doing exactly that accumulating the
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information not just metadata but intercepting storing and searching through various communications that are used on the internet so snowden himself said that the only thing that would actually be the result of him leaking the data and then being prosecuted by the u.s. would be the development of a better breed of leakers so to speak do you think that's the case i only hope so as so far that's true you have bradley manning and they throw him in the you know on on ice basically naked in a cell for a couple of years and threaten him with the death penalty after having you have manning i'm sorry you have a sonnet and now you have snowden and i only hope more will come out in the people's thoughts a listen here in the united states and do something about it. so we see who do you think we'll see more people like snowden following in his wake yes i do i do think so and i and i hope so very much snowden has blown the whistle on the prism program
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but has that really changed anything do you think anything will be done about it. well we should look back to the church hearings back in the seventy's when all kinds of illegal activity by the cia and the f.b.i. came to the light there were hearings there was legislation and then after that of course they continued to do it and upgraded their capacity to do so so unless there's a fundamental change in actual power in the united states and unless there's a press that develops in the united states that's critical and interested in investigating what goes on we're going to know about it but it's going to continue . when the u.s. asked hong kong to hans no no over their requests was almost ignored what do you think that says about the current state of u.s. china relations. well the u.s. and china have an interesting relationship on the one hand china owns all this paper that of the united states and they have a tremendous influence over the u.s. economy on the other hand there is a political construct here the old cold war mentality with people like schumer at
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the lead actually the seeks to punish and embarrass china at every turn the chinese are standing up here they've stood up at the u.n. in the syria matter and others and i'm glad to see that happen and if he ends up by the way if snowden ends up in moscow protected by the russian government you know i'd be glad to see that happen as well. now other points in his dash for safety russia cuba wherever you hands up could be seen as being antagonistic to the u.s. do you think that will harm relations between that country wherever he ends up and the united states well u.s. relations are based on u.s. interests that are i think larger than one person so we'll see how that serves out all right don de bar thanks for your time thank you to well we're asking on our web site what you think about the global surveillance apparatus and we're asking you to cast your vote about it on our web site r t dot com is it ok for security services
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to spy on people while so far seventy three percent saying no whole cell spying like that blanket spying unacceptable seventeen percent saying they don't want to give an opinion because they think they're going to be tracked if they do seven per cent saying it is justifiable but only if the security services involved are actually looking for bad guys so to speak in the pursuit of bad guys it is ok and justified to do that kind of spying and three percent say that there's nothing wrong with it at all go ahead because they feel they have nothing to hide but what do you think log on to our t dot com and cast your vote stay with us here on our t.v. we're going to be covering this story throughout the day. could you take three. or three arrangements three. three. three. three
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for as in moscow after landing on a flight from hong kong airport sources saying he'll spend the night there and wait for his onward flight reportedly to cuba monday afternoon it's then thought health third as yet unrevealed destination for more on this let's go live to our tease paul scott standing by at sheremetyevo airport paul give us the latest. you mentioned the latest breaking developments in the last hour or so airport sources have suggested to us say that i was not and will in fact spend the night. now it's not clear whether that was the original intended plan or whether something has forced a change of halts for his legal. is traveling with him let's believe walking on behalf of wiki leaks he has been greeted by the ecuadorian ambassador who also remains inside of the airport as we speak it's believed the two are in discussions about the next move for edward snowden as of which we don't know what that is away
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his final destination will be the suggestion is that he's already booked on a flight as you mentioned to cuba which will leave. on monday afternoon still not clear whether that's been confirmed or not but his followers what we do know that was snowden is inside the airport he is meeting with the ecuadorian ambassador and he is reported to be settled on the flight to cuba tomorrow afternoon for the latest developments is that he could be spending the night here. and as i say it's not clear whether that was part of his original plan if something has forced a change of heart it could be the sheer media presence at the airport has taken him . his legal representative by surprise because there are hundreds of photographers and journalists here to greet edward snowden it is quite possible the bus taking them a bottle and force a change of plan but the latest gesture is that he's spending the night inside the airport all right thanks very much paul for that update. well lots of reports and speculation are
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a bounding andrew feinstein added our director of corruption watch u.k. and a former was a lower himself told me what his advice to snowden would be. what i would probably do in his situation is stay on the move. until he is guaranteed safety in a particular country i think that by continuing to move makes it an incredibly difficult for the u.s. authorities to start any sort of legal proceedings against him wherever he may be because after all you know this is a guy who has taken enormous personal risk in order to expose what is profound wrongdoing by his own state and my guess is that given the way this operation seems to have been planned by snowden he would have thought through which countries are likely to help him. avoid extradition back
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to the united states my own guess is given julian assange has been situation that ecuador is obviously a possibility iceland is the other country that has been mentioned including by yourselves of course there it's not quite clear how they would respond to united states pressure while i think he might feel that russia is the country that would not go to u.s. pressure. laws came later of a u.k. pirate party thinks the u.s. may try to convince the public that snowden is a traitor to distract attention from revelations what we can be sure of is that the united states will continue to tar him with the brush of being a traitor whatever his final destination is but we have to remember that fact is a distraction what we need to focus on is actually the core of this story which is his read the revelations about to mass this of violence remember this is a whistle blowing it's not as.
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