larry king now from our own manson is the man behind the make up of villain or just vilified equality it's not ours is measured equally by people who dislike you and people that love you but doth icon sets the record straight i saw this take place on t.v. i go i know i'm here playing for this now i think that i've been playing for about thirty school shootings plus one would you give me if i were taking another salvador dali party. i love that. next on larry king now. welcome to larry king now today's guest is marilyn manson a man who needs no introduction

a platinum selling musician grammy nominated all this talk. he's now performing with another friend alice cooper in his masters of madness shock therapy tour when he's not making music he acts makes absolute and dabbles in watercolor painting and thanks for coming your name is brian want to brian he wonder if there's anyone ever call you brian. my dad does. he never got hooked on this thirty he's a time to infinity he likes to come out on tour i think. the place to soak up some of that he came for me so he helped with the young girls. he told me how to spend how does think it killed me to stick how did you become marilyn manson well we might have this in common i was moved to florida with my father and my first job that i could get i conned my way into becoming a music journalist in florida so i interviewed a lot. people there my i'm here in miami it was amazing called twenty fifth

parallel and i was nineteen i was a senior editor and i was also most of the other writers so the very first interview with marilyn manson was conducted by brian moore so i do yourself yeah and i didn't have any songs yet so i sort of how did i do that i was a marilyn manson thing those obvious watching. you know at the time all the children is in jerry springer be forgeries period but you know the fact that i was born in one thousand sixty nine and i was the year that the beatles you know charles manson and marilyn monroe i just remember as a kid well monroe fake name charles manson fake name you put the two together it's like abracadabra really describes american culture all together marilyn manson you got light and dark but you take the name of a notorious villain well she wasn't a villain no he good line. now how did the make up come about why do you why the lipstick why glass why didn't she myself talk to deal with the lips is good because

and become a live cigar collar if you are white collar job and you know good thinking is always a keeper but i mean why why did you go this route being a fan of well we prince alice cooper of course and even madonna. i don't know i think it's probably you know i wrote a book before i was famous really not a biography and that sort of turned me into being more popular by making a book it was sort of what he did with ziggy stardust came to america and said that he was something bigger than he was i've always been a big fan of the art of war or the war of art whichever way you want to go and just . if you can do something in life i've just been i always been a big fan of film and big fan of music and i want to be a part of it and i do other things to say about pop culture dude being in makeup every day. or do you ever go around just without the makeup just like get on

a plane no one knows who you are you know what i mean it's more so i mean other than the fact that i probably do less make a and a girl that i know and a little lipstick you take it off slowly and become a redneck from these. you'd like to turn people off. like a light i mean you know you know you may offend people if you do you get a kick out of offending people stick i think it's always been for me you know. chaos confusion and the best form of communication for me i think that's the way that you can really make art. should be a question mark it should not be an answer so be it if you ever explain your art. rather than letting art be the exploration of you yeah and you know i'm being a journalist so you know it's still there a list to give some ways because i look at the world and i think trying to give how to process it now when you become part of the pop culture that you're that you

started out criticizing and i've started out as a journalist writing about people who criticize are sort of i think back at it sort of there's another circle where word progression to. i think your equality as an artist is measured equally by the people that dislike you and people that love you you need to have both so you like your mediocre you don't mind being disliked. i care more about the people that i surround myself with what their opinions are and then when you think about it you end up showing all of your inner secrets here whatever you want to show your feelings in songs and things like that to strangers that says i get on stage and i sing things that i wrote personally about someone or to someone and i say to strangers so when people say oh is there a difference between brian warner and marilyn manson his words you could say. what is similar would probably have different amount of letters and you know. the not

it's a way of describing that how's the tour with alice cooper the one that is about to begin oh yeah you're shouting yes we're just i'm looking forward to it obviously because he was a. big influence on me as a kid and my mom i remember my mom is now as. you know as i guess is because it's been coming for quite some time but she's monthly you know like two point one can't communicate with her which you know. it's sad but that i had to of course deal with it in my own way and so i don't look for somebody when people sounds i but i of course i wish you could be different but i can't change it so i just remember when i was a kid my mom used to tell me my mom is still. of elvis and alice cooper and that's why god my hair black for so i know i was pretty good also i was used to hang around but leo's is great spirit and we all for it we let recently we actually the

first time we met was in transylvania know why you keep it we played it we were going so fast when i was in transylvania it was that you couldn't even make that you play an instrument i play guitar but mostly sing do you sing together in the act with what we're going to do a song together but i said which one what do you buy whole when you call the stores with the name he chose the name which is something. that it kind of goes back to. our guest is marilyn manson he and alice cooper are touring in masters of madness a shock therapy tour you would dentist shop people. i think the best and only way you can shock people is with light sockets i actually bought a ring it's called the suicide ring this is a light socket. and you just plug it in the light socket boom shall i say yeah sure sarcastic piece but i thought it would be good for an engagement ring you know . you think you're misunderstood. now it is understood differently by

everyone i think it's about this way it's almost like making a mouse you know did you know you can every day of all that's the way that i get famous what made you what did something happen there was a hit record what happened i think the it was a moment in pop culture and m.t.v. and rock and roll followed grunge and alice even so disease when i was there someone asked him where do you think when you first saw him out manson and you know he's a lot of people have always said i was like alice cooper you know a girl's name and and so forth and he said thank god somebody finally it's an exciting after grunge and for me and i went to college briefly at broward community college when for about three months i had succeeded or journalism and i learned how to spell blonde with an easy if it's a girl and i learned to speak in front of people but the most part i'm shy even though what i do on stage is completely would not give me the russian you date and

i date i have a. good partner girl you're only going to use the word girlfriend but i did draw a circle i wonder a heterosexual without a. question there's a show in question i do not i mean alan i don't know if you were. asked no. one says. you said you but you voted for the first time in two thousand eight hundred four. because it was all from again in two thousand well i don't really i don't. i didn't like the whole process of voting because they didn't even ask my name i didn't even present a driver's license as of some random but do you we had to be on the boat english yeah i don't know i don't even know what it was very great have you very much judy did you vote in burbank hotel i just walked in and voted. so you

know against voting no i'm just you know you're a king so you should be in the fuels the monarchy so i get issued degrees what would john kennedy once said the public really would love a kind king that's true which would leave me alone to do things just very obsessed with kennedy was right after the whole columbine thing that i have blamed for and i mean how do i read a record well i just remember sitting watching t.v. and and chicago and i saw this taking place on t.v. i go i normally get blamed for this you know it's like why we blame for columbine because that. was the best face or test at the time because i put myself in the wrong villain because i think villains are the key to any good story but leave a story with the bible you would do or smash shooting no absolutely not why you wouldn't tell them because i happen to have a song in the matrix i just come out and they're shooting and i had a video on t.v.

called rock is that kids were able fans of me i think they probably thought that i was too much of a sissy because i was wearing lipstick i don't really know i don't know is going to wear you much you got a bad rap for that yeah it was kind of put my whole career on hold lot of people don't know about it because i had to really take an active stance legally against a lot of a lot of news places for using romance and it's trademarked most likely miles it's just it will. but i had to put a cease and desist order so now people don't talk about it so in some ways i feel. mad that you know. other than bowling for columbine which a lot of people airports in their town always say i don't know you're so smart what you said more for columbine and i was going to say i don't know you're so stupid but i don't know you put it you know i decide the simplest thing of all we do is. nobody there was a list and that is the michael moore ask me what i what i would say i said i was just listened as part of columbine happened oh susan did you know you're going to

be somehow involved before they were shown a this. gang of kids wearing mt madison t. shirts shot up a school or something live on fox and. this is why you know so now i think that i've been blamed for about thirty six school shootings. but you know other than it's hard for me to have i could have empathy i could have sympathy i could have different feelings about but. i met one one of the survivors from from columbine the kid that's in the will chance in the michael moore documentary and other other than that i don't know these people personally so i don't you know i can't feel bad i don't like to have that fake sympathy that everyone has on t.v. and their crime for people they don't know. i'm not a misanthrope but on a list i'm not an atheist i believe in spirituality but it does really has to come from somewhere else you know i grew up christian i mean i was so don't you feel sadness for people who've just through the happened to be in

a building of nine eleven and. i can't believe that yeah of course of course i don't mean i'm insensitive to it i mean i don't know them so i can't personally you know if it was someone that i knew there of course. there's so many bad things that happen in the world if you feel bad about all them it's like love you love everyone you know it's kind of dilutes it but you can't i just learned a long time ago you can't change the world you can just try to make it something in it and i. good that's my spiritual i mean if you know believing in. putting something in the world we take all the basic principles of any religion it's usually about creation you know there's also destruction by creation. essentially you know i was i was i was raised christian schools my parents want me to get a better education but end up just when i get kicked out i have beat up more by the public school kids but then i go i goes away my friends pass over and i thought i

was you know what this is about it was more fun and so it was fun for kids and ordering original drinking and your spiritual person might have you know one romantic music may be his first love but mountains exploring a new medium we're going to show you that and talk about it after this. here's mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call i don't. i'm sorry i missed the guy who cares an awful lot like you sir are you know what that is my carousel. but i don't want to give us a defeat terrorism be on the ball and the chris. can you believe that it's.

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back with our man see you are the new face of st laurent all about tom about. musta been the lips of my wonderful charming good looks i don't know i've met the photographer the designer for when it was easy like i had some again and he's a big fan of rock n roll so it's a lot of rock'n'roll portraits over the years and they just called and they asked me to do it and get paid for this yes so i'm a fashion model also you could be use their logic you sail around as it would be no i don't see you don't use ellipses just the clothes just the clothes not today but what you wear shayler up yes so obviously you've overcome any bad image to have a major fashion company usu and pay you sure i mean i don't think there's you know

there's the well it's almost impossible it's kind of to make a mathematics of that now on the arrow and we've got your lindsey lowe and your personal tins and when one celebrity started to morph and you know there's obviously more so than me being in the job and what you do for you talking to every person and culture. there was a point where when i started out you know i was a rock star became riser and has been became famous i did a cover of sweet dreams and you know your rhythmic song and i was my first sort of break out thing and people knew me for now people don't even realize that you read the next one because so everything so ephemeral and they say this that everything's is it's forgotten the next day so i think it's. so you don't think endorsing a commercial product is a cop out. you know but i would have a long time ago i don't know not not not out of this sort of i guess it's

a more adapting to the culture it's never just about. the music the music is the soundtrack to everything i my one of my greatest fears is dolly i know you did interview that's amazing he does his whole. he does decided to express himself when he wanted to do it and i did and i like that you're also a photographer and a painter we're going to see some of you work. with us really well done thank you that's that was one of the more research on this but i like to look at life always as almost like you're in a zombie film where you have to improvise and in the world type situation if you've got whatever tools are in front of you and dad in pain i just got a tattoo and i use tattooing these watercolors. as an older one what are you saying there i was called. by to make garrison jack in the ads in the bunny i do

remember you make absinthe. i don't make a person but i have my own absence because i bought so much of it at the time that he said make your own but that one jack osborne i remember that was one the first ones that someone bought it was very strange the cells on the it was a pain as i never intended to be as it was that that's a pole. to pole in eighteen forty nine heard of baltimore twice married twice correct. do you sell these yeah. yes which was a very very serious because i never intended to i only painted them for and it's very good thank you that's sort of a division she meets and want to do and i'm an agent and i wrote a wrote a screenplay to it was intended to make phantasmagoria one of lewis carroll's books and it's about him and his photography and sort of a split personality and i think it's sort of rubbed off on me too much but i just

resurrected again roger avery is going to direct you're in a movie a ton film first right yes it's called wrong cops wrong tops wrong cops wrong cop show you play. david de lores frank a teenage street hustler and you play a teenager they may wear braces. would you like to start a family you know i mean you've had relationships that you have on tease rosewell don't want to be married. i feel like marriage is something that. americans they build up some idea i don't really think that i think and i think love is even a narrow definition when you say when you say you love someone because you know i love. being a live i love you know. love is not the right word so it should be dedicated and i think i'll bring over a piece of paper doesn't really solidify that by the end of this and a girl's hard to narrow mind it is. but i believe

in being. the one person to the best of your ability. would you be a good father want to be a father i think i'm good friends with johnny depp and he yes it is all the he's a great father is good jack is daughter's birth actually. and i remember giving her i did a painting of him when he first i remember giving her her first per high heel shoes but she was still wearing diapers no i sargon age thirteen a year ago and seen her since and i said you member he is the number of reds and he gave you this are he does is not coming across right. at your stage name comes from an iconic beauty and a serial killer. i may conclude he was a serial killer and healing kill anyone no numbers in the car i mean you could call him a mass murderer people always say that but i was raised this is serial killer because so it was a whole different i was right i was honest murderer who was the sheriff of years

had people killed in his name yeah serial killers but would you give me one name would you give me if i were taking another. i would salvador dali parton. i love that. salvador dali part now. got it. the other thing you go back to being just brian. i don't really think that i'm not as you mean using it as a form or. maybe i don't know i mean i don't know me about having kids and things like that i don't know what my kids call me divide more than one kid i cause i going to. see like too many yeah i get tired but that's good i remember a first person you can just. i think so i believe it was a girl named michelle bass or was she did have a kind of a fish mouth and it was cool we had just christian school in canton ohio ok we have

some social media questions tara b.d. two wants to know if the contact you were actually prescription or just for the look. technically need contacts and i don't wear many more alex d. ross wants to know if you talk to billy corgan anymore if not what happened. i don't i've been spoken to but there was no fall out or the years don't talk i think you might want to write on that it would be a good marketing idea that if you saw charlie brown t. shirts involved caps or concerts you might not like that because it is a look at charlie brown in fairness to mark morgan stern is what are you doing to remain relevant to younger fans as your older fans get older being on larry king as a way to do it matthew ot my nash is kanye west sampling you in one of his new songs and if so how did that come about i don't i'm not quite sure of the sample or

not but i like the song as ominous and i think. that was a really balls the strong performance you know because i had i had a discussion a debate. with a friend of mine about jay z. kanye west who's better and because i've met both of them i think they're both really smart and really town and it was a it was an argument over who was better and and i was leaning towards the jay z. thing until i saw that it wasn't just because it may or may not civil beautiful people but i said wow he came out so strong and so i wish i would've done that and how sixteen i want to know what kind of diet you have. well that's strange mostly i'm not a vegetarian. most of the fruit and vegetables i always used to forgive and forget the i think it's but sometimes you know being on tour all the time i think if you would my favorite food of all is grown cheese which i like that

this is a good cheese sandwich is almost the perfect sandwich is we dipping ketchup it's even better never tried that. duryodhana toss to each would you ever do a duet with madonna i will love or would love to still i think that she's very i actually met her at a crush on her. but i met her great promoter i met her and i think she's she's still as sexy as she was in the beginning any florrie says scary looking guy is he a teddy bear on the inside. as a weird phrase because i used teddy bear hole as a euphemism for a deviant sexual act. couple of quick questions favorite musician. david bowie guilty pleasure. being on the show

celebrity crushes madonna big i know celebrity causes i would say. i will go to utah with the biggest regret and biggest regret is that. i didn't get to. have a proper farewell goodbye to you know to speak to my mother before she was and unable to know why i'm now and. always haunt me she doesn't know you yes she is also. so it's more of a mental illness and so i never really had to say goodbye and i regret that because i could have done it and i was too afraid to face that and understand thanks well you know from my own manson you can find him on stage with alice cooper in their masters of madness tour and remember you can find me on twitter a king's things i'll see you next time this is solvable dolly parton.

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