larry king albert benson is the man behind the make up of the woman or just vilified equality is ours is measured equally by people that just like you and people that love the dog python sets the record straight i saw this taking place on t.v. i got a number of blame for this now i think that i've been blamed for about thirty six school shootings plus what name would you give me if i were taking another salvador dali party. i love that. next on larry king now. welcome to larry king now today's guest is marilyn manson a man who needs no introduction a platinum selling musician grammy nominated all this talk rock icon he's now

performing with another friend alice cooper in his masters of madness shock therapy tour when he's out making music he acts makes absolute and dabbles in watercolor painting and thanks for coming your name is brian want to brian he wonders if there's anyone ever call you brian. my dad does. he never got hooked on this study is it on an infinity he lives to come on to or i think. the place to soak up some of that he came for me so he helped with the young girls. you know me how to spend how does thinking kill me to stick how did you become marilyn manson well we might have this in common i was moved to florida with my father and my first job that i could get i conned my way into becoming a music journalist in florida so i interviewed a lot of people there in miami and miami it was amazing called twenty fifth

parallel and i was nineteen i was a senior editor and i was also most of the other writers. the very first interview with marilyn manson was conducted by brian moore so i did yourself yeah and i didn't have any songs yet so i sort of how did you know i was a marilyn manson thing those obvious watching. you know at the time all the children is in jerry springer be forgers prairie but you know the fact that i was born in one thousand six hundred nine and i was the year that the beatles you know charles manson and marilyn monroe i just remember as a kid my own monroe fake name charles manson fake name he puts together it's like abracadabra really describes american culture all together marilyn manson you got light and dark but you take the name of a notorious villain well she wasn't a villain no he good line. now how did the makeup come about why do you why the lipstick why glass why i didn't see myself talk and deal with the lips is good

because i'm become a live signal collar if you are white collar jobs and you know good thinking is always keep but i mean why why did you go this route being a fan of bowie prince alice cooper of course and even madonna. i don't know i think it's probably you know i wrote a book before i was famous really an autobiography and that sort of turned me into being more popular by making a book it was sort of what we did with ziggy stardust came to america and said that he was something bigger than he was i've always been a big fan of the art of war or the war of art whichever way you want to go and just . if you can do something in life i was but i always been a big fan of film and big fan of music and i wanted to be a part of it and i was a sissy about pop culture do you do you can make up every day. or do you ever go

around just without the make up just like get on a plane no one knows who you are you know what i mean it is more so i mean other than the fact i probably do less make a and a girl that i know and little lipstick you take it off it's become a redneck from. if. you'd like to turn people off. like a light i mean you know you know you may offend people you get a kick out of offending people sticked i think it's always been for me you know. chaos confusion in the best form of communication for me i think that's the way that you can really make art you know are should be a question mark it should not be an answer so be it if you ever explain your art. rather than letting art be the exploration of you yeah and you know i'm being a journalist you know it's still there a list to get some ways because i look at the world i think trying to give how to process it now when you become part of the pop culture that year they started out

criticizing and i've started out as a journalist writing about people who criticize are sort of i think back at it sort of these other circle where word progression so that. i think your quality as an artist is measured equally by people that dislike you and people that love you that you need to have both so you like your mediocre you don't mind being disliked. i care more about the people that i surround myself with what their opinions are and then when you think about it you end up showing all of your inner secrets here whatever you want to show your feelings and songs and things like that to strangers that says i get on stage and i sing things that i wrote personally about someone or to someone and i say to strangers so when people say i was a difference between brian warner and marilyn manson his words you could say. what is similar would probably have different amount of letters and you know. other than

that it's a way of describing that i was that too with alice cooper the one that is about to begin oh yeah you're shouting yes we're just i'm looking forward to it obviously because he was a. big influence on me as a kid and my mom i remember my mom and now as. you know as i guess was because it's been coming for quite some time and she's mentally you know like to the point where it can't communicate with her which you know. it's sad but i had to of course deal with it in my own way and so i don't look for somebody when people sounds are but i of course i wish i could be different but i can't change it so i just remember when i was a kid my mom used to tell me my mom is still. love elvis and alice cooper and that's why god my hair black for so i know i was pretty good also i was used to hang around but leo's is great for and we're all for it we let recently we actually the first time we met was in transylvania know why you keep it we played it we were

going so fast when i was in transylvania it was that you couldn't even make that you play an instrument players are. mostly saying do you sing together in the act with what we're going to do this article but i said which one do you buy whole when you call the shows with the name he chose the name which is something. that it kind of goes back to. our guest is marilyn manson he and alice cooper are touring in masters of madness a shock therapy tour you would tend to shock people. i think the best and only way you can shock people is with light sockets i actually bought a ring it's called the suicide ring and says the light socket thing. and you just plug it in the light socket boom shall i say to yourself yeah sure sarcastic our piece but i thought it would be good for an engagement ring you know. you think

you're misunderstood. now and is understood differently by everyone i think it's about this way it's almost like making a mouse you know did you know you can have all that's the way that i get famous what made you what did something happen there was a hit record what happened i think the it was a moment in pop culture and m.t.v. and rock and roll followed grunge and alice even so disease when i was there someone asked them what did you think when you first saw them out manson and you know there's a lot of people have always said i was like alice cooper you know girls and so forth and he said thank god somebody finally it's an exciting after groans and for me and i went to college briefly at broward being followed. one for about three months and i succeeded or in journalism and i learned how to spell blonde with an easy if it's a girl and i learned to speak in front of people but the most part i'm shy even though what i do on stage is completely would not give you the russian you date by

date i have a. good partner girl you are only to use the word girlfriend because i did draw sexual a longer answer sexual without a. question with. a stone question i did not i mean arlen i don't know if you were . asked why no. one says. you said you you voted for the first time in two thousand eight hundred four. because it was all from again in two thousand well i don't really i don't. i didn't like the whole process of voting because they didn't even ask my name i didn't even present a driver's license as of some random but do you we have to be on the voting list yeah i don't know i don't even know what it was rarely great have you very much judy did you vote in burbank hotel you just walked in and voted. so you know against voting no i'm just you know you're

a king so you should be confuse the monarchy so i get issued degrees what would john kennedy once said the public really would love a kind king that's true which would leave me alone to do things just very obsessed with kennedy was right after the whole columbine thing and i have blamed for i mean how do i read a record well i just remember sitting watching t.v. and and chicago and i saw this take place on t.v. i go i know i'm going to blame for this you know it's like why we blame bill columbine because that. was the best face to test at the time because i put myself in the role villain because i think villains are the key to any good story but it leaves you with a bottle it would do or smash should english no absolutely not why you wouldn't tell about bees i happen to have a song in the matrix that just come out and they're shooting and i had a video on t.v. for rock is that kids were able fans of me i think they probably thought that i was

too much of a sissy because i was wearing lipstick i don't really know i don't know if you were you much you got a bad rap for that yeah it was kind of put my whole career on hold lot of people don't know about it because i had to really take an active stance legally against a lot of a lot of news places for using marilyn manson which is a trademark slightly miles it's not really just an example. but i had to put a cease and desist order so now people don't talk about it so in some ways i feel. mad that you know. other than bowling for columbine which a lot of people airports in their thought always say i don't know you're so smart what you said more for common and i was going to say i didn't know you're so stupid but i don't know you could you know i just said the simplest thing of all we do is . nobody until there was a list and that is the michael moore asked me what i what i would say i said i was just listened as part of columbine happened oh susan did you know you're going to

be somehow involved before they were shown maybe it was. a gang of kids wearing my own medicine t. shirts shot up a school or something live on fox and. this is why you know so now i think that i've been blamed for about thirty six school shootings. but you know other than it's hard for me to have i could have empathy had to have sympathy i could have different feelings about but. i met one one of the survivors from from columbine the kid that's in the will chance in the michael moore documentary and other other than that i don't know these people personally so i don't you know i can't feel bad i don't like to have that fake simply that everyone has on t.v. and they're crying for people they don't know. i'm not a misanthrope on a list i'm not an atheist i believe in spirituality but it does really has to come from somewhere else you know i grew up christian i mean i was a door to feel sadness for people who just through that happened to be in

a building on nine eleven and i could i can't believe that yeah of course of course i don't mean i'm insensitive to it i mean i don't know them so i can't personally you know if it was someone that i knew the guy of course. there's so many bad things that happen in the world and you feel bad about all them there's like love if you love everyone you know it's kind of dilutes it but you can't i just learned a long time ago you can't change the world you can just try to make it something in it and i. that's my spiritual and if you know believing in. putting something in the world if you take all the basic principles of any religion it's easy about creation you know there's also destruction but creation. science leave you know i was i was i was raised christian schools by for as well you get a better education but just what i get kicked out i have beat up more by the public school kids but then i go i go there were like my friends pass over and i thought

you know what this is about is more fun and well that's always fun it's a north american drinking game you're just kind of the person i. know well i'm a romantic music may be his first love but now is exploring a new medium we're going to show you that and talk about it after this. they were ready to do anything for their country to be patriotic is to love their country more than yourself if you joined the military for any other reason that you're probably not going to have a good day they were tools in the hands of the state now they live remembering the past which is impossible to get rid of. the war. but it however good people to get hurt. and i've heard good people empty silent.

but would prefer not to be sometimes i feel like. i should have died over there. because i. i saw some people who died. is cheaper than therapy. on our. plus there was a new alert animation scripts scare me a little bit illegally. there is breaking news tonight and we are continuing to follow the breaking news in. alexander's family cry

tears of joy at it great things rather that there had to be added red dark and a quart of water around alive is a story made sort of movies playing out in real life.

we. are back with my old man see you are the new face of st laurent other about tom about. must have been the lives of my wonderful charming good looks i don't know i've met the photographer the designer for when it was easy like i had use them again and he's a big fan of rock n roll so you take a lot of rock'n'roll portraits over the years and they just called and they asked me to do it and get paid for it is yes so i'm a fashion model also you could be used there logistic you sailor others it would be no i don't i don't use ellipses just the clothes just the clothes not today but what you wear shame. on you of so obviously you've overcome any bad image to have a major fashion company usu and pay you sure i mean. you know as

is the way it's almost impossible it's kind of to make a mathematics of that now on the arrow and we've got your lindsey lowe and your personal tons and when one celebrity started to morph and you know there's obviously more so than me being in the job and what you do for is talking to every person in culture. there was a point where when i started out you know i was a rock star we can rock star has been became famous i did a cover of sweet dreams and you know rhythmic song and i was my first sort of break out thing and people knew me for now people don't even realize that you read the next front because so everything's so ephemeral as they say is that everything's is it's forgotten the next day so i think it's. so you don't think endorsing a commercial product is a cop out. you know but i would have a long time ago i mean i'm not not not out of just sort of i guess it's

a more adapting to the culture it's never just about. the music the music is the soundtrack to everything i own my one of my greatest fear is dolly you know he did interview that's amazing he does his whole. he does decided to express himself where he wanted to do it and i didn't like that you're also a photographer and a painter we're going to see some of you work. look at us really well done thank you that's that was one of my more research on this but i like to look at life always as almost like you're in a zombie film where you have to improvise and of the world type situation if you've got whatever tools are in front of you and a dab of paint i just got a tattoo and i use tattooing these water colors. as an older one what are you saying there i was called. by make ash and jack in the absence of money

i dream of you make absinthe. i don't make a person but i have my own absence because i bought so much of it at the time that is the make it out but that one jack osborne i remember that was one the first ones that someone bought and i was very strange the cells on the it was a pain as i never intended to be as it was that that's i grow. old it's just a poll in eighteen forty nine heard of baltimore twice married twice correct. ollie's yeah. yes which was a very strange experience was i never intended to i don't mean painting them for friends it's very good thank you that's sort of a division she means also want to do and the nation and i wrote a wrote a screenplay i was intended to make phantasmagoria it's one of lewis carroll's books and it's about him and his photography and sort of a split personality and i think it's sort of rubbed off on me too much but i just

resurrected again roger avery is going to direct it you're in a movie had caught on film for us right yes it's called wrong cops wrong topps wrong cops wrong cop show you play. david de lores frank a teenage street hustler and you play a teenager they may wear braces or. would you like to start a family you know i mean you've had relationships you have on t s rosewell don't want to be married. i feel like marriage is something that. americans they build up some idea i don't really think that i think and i think love is even a narrow definition when you say when you say you love someone because you know i love. being alive i love you know. love is not the right word so it should be dedicated and i think i bring or a piece of paper doesn't really solidify that by the kind of girls hard to narrow mind it is. but i believe in being.

the one person to the best of your ability. would you be a good father want to be a father i think i'm good friends with. he is what is all the he's a great father is good jack is daughter's birth as actually. and i remember giving her i did a painting of him when he first i remember giving her her first per high heel shoes because she was still wearing diapers no i sargon age thirteen a year ago and seen her since and i said you member he is a member read and i go this ari does is not coming across right. at your stage name comes from an iconic beauty and a serial killer. i mean i think he was a serial killer and here in kill anyone you know and i was in the car i mean you call him a mass murderer people always say but i was raised this is serial killer because so it was a whole different i was right i was honest murderer he was sure of years had people

killed in his name serial killers what would you give me what name would you give me if i were taking of a man. i would salvador dali parton. i love that. salvador dali part. got it. the other thing you go back to being just brian. i don't really think that i'm not you mean using it as a form or. maybe i don't know i mean i don't want to i don't know who you asked me about having kids and there's a i don't know what my kids call me divide more than one kid i cause i going to. see like to have made me i like that that's funny but that's good i remember a first person you just. i think so i believe it was a girl named shelby bass or was she did have a kind of fish mouth and it was cool we had just christian school in canton ohio ok

we have some social media questions tara beatty to want to know if the contact you were actually prescription or just for the look. technically need contacts and i don't wear many more alex d. ross wants to know if you talk to billy corgan anymore if not what happened. i don't i don't spoken to but there was no fall out or they just don't talk i think you might want to write on that it would be a good marketing idea that if you saw the charlie brown t. shirts involved caps or concerts you might like that because you did look at charlie brown in fairness to. journalist what are you doing to remain relevant to younger fans as your older fans get older being on larry king as a way to do it matthew ottman nash is tiny west sampling doing one of his new songs and if so how did that come about i don't i'm not quite sure if it's a sample or not but i like the song as honest and i think that was

a really balls the strong performance you know because i had i had a discussion debate. with a friend of mine about jay z. and kanye west who's better and because i've met both of them they were both really smart and really talented and it was a it was an argument over who was better and and i was leaning towards the jay z. thing until i saw that it wasn't just because it may or may not civil beautiful people but i say he came out so strong and so i wish i would've done that and how i was sixteen i want to know what kind of diet you have. well that's strange mostly i am not a vegetarian. i mostly like fruit and vegetables i always used to forgive and forget the i think it's but sometimes you know being on tour all the time i think you would my favorite food of all is grown cheese which i like that

this is a good cheese sandwich is almost the perfect sandwich is the dipping ketchup it's even better never tried that. gerard mythos tweets would you ever do a duet with madonna i will love or would love to still i think that she's very i actually met her at a crush on her when i was younger but i met her great promoter i met her and i think she's still sexy as she wasn't getting any florrie's as scary looking guy is she a teddy bear on the inside. as a weird phrase because i used to be whole as a euphemism for a deviant sexual act. couple of quick questions favorite musician. david bowie. guilty pleasure. being on the show the robbery crushes madonna big. celebrity causes i would say. i

will go. over the biggest regret my biggest regret is that. i didn't get to. see a proper farewell good bye to you know they so to speak to my mother before she was and unable to know why i am now and. always hope me chips to know you is she is also. so it's more of a mental illness so i never really had to say goodbye and i regret that because i could have done it and i was too afraid to face those things thanks well you know from my own man something you can find him on stage with alice cooper in their masters of madness tour and remember you can find me on twitter at kings things i'll see you next time this is solvable dolly parton the.

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rings id this is for headaches this is for sleep this is a trying to lies or two if i have any episodes xanax can cause a blackout scotians it's not just. oh so you're trying to kind of which has been a nightmare because. you can't get off of it. and vilified it is kind of you to go out there for me because sometimes i have episodes for i won't be able to own. i think something will trigger me and which i'll just keep on working and working and working or less. like seventy two hours i'm just so exhausted. and i can take that and build. a show out forty sixty seventy. one off and thank you very much i'd like to read the fridge that you gave me i could have made a lot more money on.