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thank you for joining us today. any chance of extraditing america's most wanted man who is holed up in. edward snowden's never crossed into russian territory. to out of the government's reach. ever since edward snowden touched down in moscow on sunday it's been the biggest mystery for the last seventy two hours or so what his next move would be he was supposed to fly from moscow on monday he even checked in supposedly for that flight but never made it there ever since it's been speculated that he may have left the

country on a different flight he may have left it elsewhere even some have been alleging that he may have been detained by the russian authorities to later to be extradited to the united states both of these claims were in fact quashed by the russian president who compared mr snowden to the case of another very famous whistleblower . snowden's case is similar to that julian assange both called themselves defenders of human rights and fight for the freedom of information you have to ask yourself do such people need to be hunted down and put in prison but i personally would like to avoid cases like these just like sharing a pig knots of shrieking little fun while the russians were rather clear in their explanation as to why snowden would not be extradited to the united states the explanation coming from the chinese authorities as to why they didn't deny the extradition was deemed hilarious and amusing by many online now believe it or not the hong kong authority said they would not extradite snowden because in the

paperwork that the united states provided to the chinese for the extradition of the former n.s.a. man they did not specify what the j. in the edward j. snowden stood for joan or james so that's why they denied the extradition so of course there's been a lot of uproar about that coming from across the atlantic with some of the politicians in washington pointing the finger at moscow and beijing for not cooperating with washington on the whistleblower on edward snowden some have even been alleging that snowden has been working together with the russian and the chinese special services this claim was yet again by both the russian foreign minister and the russian president. any accusations against russia and nothing but rubbish simply ravings special services never interacted with snowden and they're not doing so you today edward snowden is not only the most wanted man across the atlantic he's also the most wanted man by the media now this blind he was supposed

to board on monday carried more than a half of moscow's international press corps basically they want to a three day holiday to the caribbean and now it's a source speculated what's his next move would be sound are saying that he may wait for the dust to settle down and then move elsewhere some are saying that he may wait for his asylum plea to be satisfied by either ecuador or vanessa well in any case we here at moscow's sheremetyevo airport waiting for the next move of the world's most high profile whistleblower. because one of the. now russia may face consequences for its inaction there's a warning from senior u.s. officials particularly that of the secretary of state john kerry more than that though it's not just moscow that may face washington's anger as ati's gynae reports u.s. secretary of state john kerry hinted at possible consequences that russia may face for its response on snowden saying at times russians have criminals in the u.s. they're looking for and he said the u.s. has cooperated on handing over seven of them only past two years although if it

were a russian whistleblower who stood up for civil liberties in russia it's kind of hard to imagine the u.s. handing them over very quickly especially thank us we're not legal. we heard the russian president say russia had no legal authority to stop him from traveling formally he hasn't crossed the russian border is a transit passenger didn't need a russian and he hasn't committed any crimes in russia moscow says russia doesn't want to have anything to do with mr stone but it's amazing how this story which had absolutely nothing to do with russia is all about russia not much of the media here has turned the whole snowden story into a story about putin they invite lawmakers and experts who focus on russian putin here's for example senator mccain weighing in on the story. we got to start dealing with that amir putin in a realistic fashion for what he is he's an old k.g.b. colonel apparatchik that dreams of the days of the russian empire and he continues

to stick his thumb and i know for a broad variety of ways this kind of narrative in the media that's focused on russia certainly helps build up negative public opinion on snowden and eventually discredit his revelations the focus is not just on russia but also on china and here u.s. officials blast hong kong for letting small one fly about one of these revelations the fact that the u.s. spied on chinese research centers and universities here's the explanation that we heard from secretary kerry our surveillance activities on them it's our surveillance activities anonymously on thousands of chinese and the chinese university anonymously in order to be able to track terrorism if there is an act of terrorism or some linkage that is appropriate. whatever it is could be anywhere in the world whatever it is then you have to go to court and you have to have court approval in order to do anything that is actually name specific

person specific so secretary kerry said the u.s. was spying on chinese research centers and universities to find terrorists a lot of people would find that response quite confusing china would probably not buy it. so you see u.s. officials being quite of a sieve on what they're actually doing preferring to focus on the messenger instead on edward snowden and here's my colleague on associate york in a on how the media here goes along with that narrative some journalists believe the shocking us government spying scandal is the biggest story of our lifetime i sit in my desk certainly had the authorities to to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if i had a personal e-mail but big brother shamelessly watching millions of people in secret seems to be turning into little more than a cat and mouse chase by the american mainstream media snowden snowed snow in my mind the only thing that's very really important. is it's really how the government

is cracking down on. your mole over the boys but that's far from most of the media's focus instead snowden is the source not the substance of the n.s.a. scandal is all the rage betraying your country is kind of a fashion statement what to me the national security kim cardassian an old technique called change the subject when you don't like the subject this is about how you change you personalize it or you try to see what the problems are with the people who are delivering the message and ovoid actually explaining the message itself in this case a massive spy scandal has been turned into a possible case of treason as an alice in wonderland first comes the verdict then the trial with pundits eager to shoot the messenger we need to get very very serious about treason and old by the way for treason as in the case of bradley manning or edward snowden you bring back the death penalty from questioning whether

the reporter who broke the scandal with snowden as his source should be punished along with the whistleblower why shouldn't you mr green will be charged with a crime to news reports focused on snowden's girlfriend what's curious she also packed everything up and left. the mainland to pointing fingers at any other government but their own whether china or russia has been able to sort of suck out that knowledge from those computers while he's been in their countries avoiding the issue at hand seems to be a priority it doesn't surprise me that this would be this focus on. snowden's private. boys is it private affairs or his whereabouts and travelled instead on the credibly important revelations that he has given us the answer to the question why is simple because they failed to do their job to actually expose all this so now they're blaming somebody who has exposed it and it makes them look bad ditto for the government the media coverage of the n.s.a. scandal a litmus test for journalism that most are failing instead of cleaning up their act

and dwindling ratings networks are busy looking for bad guys elsewhere instead of looking the real villain in the face when you consider that as recently as the one nine hundred seventy s. richard nixon was forced to resign in large part because he thought well. this is a huge change in our perception while a media war breaks out over supporting or hating edward snowden as little airtime as possible is actually dedicated to the spying on unsuspecting citizens itself the biggest privacy leak in recent u.s. history has shown the media to have little ability to deal with complex issues instead indulging themselves in a manhunt yet again but then again the shouldn't be too shocking when the finger pointing every now and then is paused it's stories like this that fill air time all of the super bowl or the sound of your holiday your holiday wait. i'm

going to new york. and in the meantime eric draitser a new york based geo political analyst he believes the government and the media are in cahoots waging a concentrated smear campaign against snowden in the united states we see a concerted propaganda campaign designed to demonize and to destroy the image if not the total character of snowden and we see this happening from the right wing and also from the left wing those who are attacking glenn greenwald for his revelations and snowden themselves this is now becoming a real story in the united states the way in which the controlled media is attacking snowden and serving the interests of the surveillance state and the partisanship behind president obama the united states certainly will not give up we've seen cases of extraordinary rendition from all over the globe carried out by the united states and it wasn't just in the context of so-called terrorists if i

were snowden i would be working under the assumption that there really is no place anywhere on earth that will be one hundred percent safe but i think that the strategy that is taken incorporating china incorporating russia using the infrastructure built up by wiki leaks is absolutely critical to ensuring his safety and while washington maintains the large scale surveillance project the exposed by snowden saying it targets on the terrorism and apparently turns out that sky thing googling and chasing likes on facebook on something potential terrorists usually do these are going to glasgow told us what part of cyberspace they do tend to walk a pie in stead. and there is the pose a quest for preventing terror attacks and increasing security prism only gathers data from the internet big players such as google sky facebook and so on but most of those who look forward to harvest or terrorist related information can find it only on the appropriate forums which are hidden deep within the so-called under web

none of these resources in that realm are actually indexed by the major search engines in fact google how did one point admitted that it indexes a tiny fraction of just one percent of all data that's available on the web if you imagine it as an iceberg that you can understand that prism only covers the very top the very tip of the iceberg the rest of the information is actually not covered by prism according to dutch intelligence service but then she'll share is go to these core forums which are highly encrypted and hidden deep within the web so one really needs to know what they're looking for and where to find it a case in point could be the brothers they have turned to one of the war no radical sources sometimes referred to as the vanity of the web sites existence is no secret for some reason u.s. security services failed to track down the brothers activity even after a tip off from russia and thereby they failed to prevent the boston bombings so although the cia and the n.s.a. say their surveillance programs are directed at protecting people it seems like

they're too busy reading innocent people's emails well human rights activists are peter tatchell he believes the u.s. is trying to twist the snowden case and what it classes as is shameful revelations to simply disguise the fact that it's been caught red handed. well of course the united states government will try and spin it whatever way it can to discredit edward snowden and to put its own policies in the best possible light but the fact is instead of going for the messenger public focus and government focus should be on the message he's given which is that millions of people worldwide who are entirely innocent have been subjected to mass surveillance by the u.s. administration without the approval of congress congress never voted to put this system in place nor have the governments of any other country this is rogue spying by a rogue state i mean if it was edward snowden had been an iranian whistleblower who

exposed global snooping by the terror around regime he would have been hailed by the united states as a horowitz whistleblower he would have been lauded and pray. and today's edition of cross talk also focusing on snowden's actions and what could await him in the future you can stay with us for the intense debate that is about a fourteen minutes from now for the meantime though a preview. pretty clear that the longer he goes out on the lam so to speak and particularly the places he's going are purported to going to china russia cuba these are not places that are known for internet freedom so to speak either so i don't want to hear that those i always hear that i mean internet freedom is not really interrupted here in russia but it's said all the time over and over again so and there's no evidence that he's there and he's out on another so you know they say let me take it if he's there over the internet or here is no evidence that he's met with russian officials he's on even entered the country so we'll see what that

means you want to reply like ok if you had just a little matter if just to correct it on ecuador you know ecuador has vastly i think they've had one of the fastest rates of growth of internet anywhere in the hemisphere in the last since korea has been in office and there's absolutely no monitor there's no censorship of internet and no evidence that the government is doing any kind of monitoring so you can definitely leave ecuador out of any list of countries that you think is not a pioneer of internet freedom. if you.

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twelve twenty pm here in the russian capital this is r.t. with me will research show and look out u.k. chancellor george osborne is set to announce even more sweeping national cuts in his upcoming spending review he's already said almost twelve billion pounds needs to be shaved from government budgets and he's going to tell the british people just who's going to get hit the hardest are two sarah ferguson story once a place of sanctuary now a peyton symbol of a stereotype burson a small garden was west stephanie but she'll often sought refuge from her financial ways it was a she'd raised a family but when her son moved out she was caught by the new government scheme

that's the betting tax days insatiable housing with spare rooms let's face it cuts to the housing benefits all me to somewhere smaller less than a month ago and the fifty three year old grandmother of one killed herself by stepping in front of a meeting lorry she left this suicide note behind her head devastated family about garden was how well she loved. and so maybe. she'd know. the government insists that the cuts are necessary and that the current changes to the benefit system will eventually improve the lives of some of the poorest families but as part of the wealth taking place right now angela murray had essential say she slashed from twenty hours a day to just three earlier this week she delivered a petition signed by forty five thousand people calling on the chancellor to invest

in social care if you think. you haven't committed any crime. and you've been restricted to. prison. for how. many people. just. have. this problem was caused. this problem of. small tight knit communities like this one. might be a long way from westminster because many of the people who live in communities like

that have been among some of the hardest hit by the government. i'm sure that i wouldn't be. sure that. they're all right provided. some of us are not gifted with money. some of us just lead ordinary everyday lives and unfortunately that's the world. i'd rather be that i'm one of them with the money. because what we. can. and to watch somebody of your community do what they've done. to be pretty desperate. experts have said that situations like stephanie's are avoidable and point to iceland as an example the country saw a collapse of its banking system a few years back but protected spending cheesing stimulus save austerity jaring their banking crisis so rightly and enjoy three percent growth in two thousand and

twelve compared to just point two percent in the k. but with the government seemingly committed to their austerity drive the worry is that these cuts will for many more people across the like stephanie boucher's friends and family have affects the irreversible surface r.t. . ok before it's abby martin the breaking of the set now is the world update where the e.u. has decided to perspire on further talks on turkey's membership of the block for at least four months ultimately bowing to pressure from germany and other capitals have criticized for cracking down on government protests at least twenty people were arrested in the city on choose day for their alleged role in a tight on police during the violence up. u.s. president barack obama and his afghan counterpart how many cards i have agreed to open talks with the taliban just a day after a brazen assault on the presidential palace in kabul by the militant group the two

leaders also supported the recent opening of a taliban office in qatar where a future negotiations can take place for extremists and three security guards died in tuesday's attack after militants used fake i.d.'s to get into the high security zone in the center of the afghan capital. a chinese space capsule carrying three astronauts has now returned to earth landing safely in northern china and it's fifteen day mission the space ship successfully docked with the platform in space an important step towards the country having a fully operational station by the year twenty twenty this was china's fifth manned space mission in ten years. now the dominance of america's big three credit ratings agencies could be under a serious threat and you hong kong based international agency has entered the arena of the s. and p. moody's and fitch were accused of being financial and political enforcement of

washington. shed some light. the big three have had their own way for over one hundred years but were ridiculed for not just failing to see the financial crash coming but making the situation worse by dishing out optimistic ratings for toxic mortgage backed investments and giving investors the confidence to pile it up until now i kiss asians i knew exactly what they were doing which is that accusations but now it appears there might be some proof that the agencies were deliberately fooling investors rolling stone magazine has published details from a san diego based law appeared to show the mood is an s. and p. have been exchanging high ratings for cash according to the article e-mails have been found from s. and p. alice with with comments like this has to be the stupidest plays i've watched out as you know i had difficulties explaining how we got those numbers since there is

no science behind it these allegations are quite frightening considering the rating agencies put their rubber stamp on multi billion dollar deals are still seen by many in the financial world as the backbone of the credit body alternative to these agencies is not before time so kids universal credit rating group says it intends to reform the current regime the company based in hong kong will be made up of china's dugong u.s. agency jones and russia's research writing on the head of research eating says it's all about balance rating agency that is based in hong kong it is so that we can provide to the investment world. views that can be used to balance the investment views for the united states so the dominating days of the big three could be over and it may now be their turn to get downgraded. ok as

promised her nazi doubts have abby martin he'll be yanking the top of the bottled water market in america with some very concerning revelations of breaking the set in just a few minutes. i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on r.t.

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white house or the. radio guy and for a minute. what. we're about to produce never seen anything like this i'm told. hey guys i'm out the morning on the great things that last week afghan president hamid karzai announced the official shift of military power from nato to the country's own security forces and u.s. envoy was formed to assist in peace talks between the u.s. that ganesan and the taliban things were looking good i guess but alas last night official buildings near the cia headquarters in kabul and cars as presidential palace were attacked the attack led to a ninety minute firefight and left at least four people dead and the taliban has since taken responsibility however this incident raises many red flags for the future of the region just days ago the u.s. and afghan gun.