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lol. you live on one hundred thirty three bucks a month for food i should try it because you know how fabulous i had lunch i got so many i mean family and such and i know that i'm still really messed up. and we're all really sort of. the worst for the least thing going on out of the. radio for a minute. and what you will hear about a good cause you've never seen anything like this i'm telling. you guys i'm having martin and this is breaking this set well bolivian president evo morales isn't quite the trip to the last twenty four hours the president left
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for russia to his home country but he never made it after rumblings that morales was considered would consider grandin stowed in the silent suspicions of rows of the whistleblower was on board his presidential plane of course that didn't sit well with u.s. authorities have been pressured france and portugal to keep morales plane out of their airspace because of it presidential aircraft was forced to land in austria and wouldn't you know it snowden wasn't even on board a bold move prompted bolivia's v.p. to say that morale as was kidnapped by imperialism now being held captive for fourteen hours he was finally allowed to leave but not without public outcry from several loud american leaders and demonstrations outside of multiple embassies so i guess my question is who that all those obama think it is only after a week of declaring that he wouldn't scramble jets for a twenty nine year old hacker obama forces down the plane of a foreign head of state that's ludicrous and humiliating and just imagine if another country demanded air force one to land mid-flight based on an founded
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suspicion as centrally the u.s. is saying we can do. whoever the hell we want even if that means outright disrespecting leaders of solver nations there will be consequences for this kind of disregard for the world stage and if you think that it's completely insane to join me and let's break the set. guys while i know it seems that parts of the world are bullies of the us they panic it isn't going to take a look at the news that may have slipped under your radar this week starting with guantanamo bay where one hundred and sixty twenties continue on a hunger strike twice a day dozens of them are voluntarily strapped to a chair and violently force fed through their tubes many of these men see suicide by starvation as the only way out of a definite and definite attention sorry seems futile as these force feeding
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sessions are not expected to end anytime soon but the holy month of ramadan only a week away for prisoners are pleading to only be force fed after sundown this request would literally be the least that could be done for these men but to endure this nightmare day in and day out for what could be the rest of their lives even more inferior rating is that many of these prisoners have already been cleared for release not to mention the fact that obama could sign a national security waiver today if he wanted to but instead is throwing the blame on congress and now these prisoners are just pawns in a political standoff one that trumps basic human rights and while we're on the subject of human dignity it turns out that the u.s. border patrol is considering adding weapons to their increasing fleet of surveillance drones before you start visioning killer drones with hellfire missiles at the border the agency says that the weaponry would be non lethal whatever that means first surveillance drones then non-lethal weapon eyes drones isn't really that much of a stretch though to imagine actual killer drones shooting down migrant refugees in
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the near future maybe it is however. it's important to note that the most popular drone currently being used at the border is one specialized for war so my question is what the world drones is doing flying over u.s. air space already and finally a bill that just passed the north carolina state senate really deserves more attention it's titled the family faith and freedom protection act and it seeks to ban sharia law and islamic code of law derived from the qur'an now this alone is completely insulting what this means is that there are actually people in the u.s. so terrified of muslims that they're trying to preemptively ban something that cannot be implemented it has never been proposed sharia law isn't the only thing that north carolina lawmakers are trying to ban in the bill they're also trying to ban abortion yes lawmakers have snuck in multiple anti abortion amendments which would make it access increasingly difficult for women in the state this attack on
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women's rights of the guise of an islamophobia ban on sharia laws denmark despicable and just the latest in a string of controversial legislation in the state going after everything from voting rights to same sex marriage you know i'm just waiting for the day that north carolina changes that state slogan to walcot me all to north carolina unless unless you're gay or black or muslim or if you have a uterus. wiki leaks has been in the news lately in light of the n.s.a. scandal and whistleblower chase about word snowden and now there's another unsettling revelation recently wired magazine exposed then eighteen year old ciggy thordarson is the first known f.b.i. informant inside wiki leaks reportedly turned over a trove of internal documents to the u.s. government in two thousand and eleven according to reports that he approached the federal agency to provide a multitude of intelligence about wiki leaks after working closely with the anti
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secrecy organization for over a year but what sig. he revealed could very likely seal an indictment against you in the sun so the d.o.j. has been conducting a secret investigation against wiki leaks for years and officials refused to deny that assad would be charged with espionage and extradited if he leaves the ecuadorian embassy so how much damage has this leak done well to talk about cities case earlier i spoke to tangerine bolen founder of revolution truth and a close affiliate of wiki leaks i first asked her what her reaction was to finding out siggy was an f.b.i. informant. well you know i actually were very surprised and i had suspected that for quite some time but it was also a seeing kind of same feeling i mean he's he's dangerous to this arena and i'm going to you know i'm thinking where and how close were you with and i mean did you ever directly work with him i say so i have not in my relationship to save your
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arse and i so to have a crime rate over one hundred hours and. chats and on sky telephone by text mostly after a chat so you know i have an actual sort of working relationship with this case which was fascinating and super frustrating and very strange i actually had a new york city to meet with him in person as well so how how do you help those who are joining us on day and city. well great to say he and other sources close this jury and they were quite close i mean some people have described as steady as being like a son to joanne. they seem to be it's horrible for a while now i can see this in person and wiki leaks claims of their rights by wiki leaks to try to tell me that city had never worked for them early on i think when they were starting to be worried about it's come out it's quite clear that they did work for them and i think they were just trying to do damage control. so you know
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it's hard to say unless you are there are some people who are there and they say we were quite. i mean as a as wired reports say you have a history of why and i guess so why should we believe him to the extent of what he says the relationship really is. well i tell it from pretty extensive reading and there were i'm many times that we were speaking that he was basically taking what i was saying you have to you know that you know and again enjoying our silence and passing it back to me you also included filmmaker michael moore and i are well around and you know there are sort of four and five way conversations happening so much often and so i know that so it was going to be with you and. you know that's i guess that's all i could say about that i was embarrassed her saying. you know there are a lot or maybe area between you and julian which is pretty significant i was a lot of things that he did tell me that. you know coming out in the media later and so you know do you know what was was like going down the rabbit hole you never
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knew what was true what was what was exaggerated. in the way it was there was a fair or unfair it was a very strange experience however there were many many things he said that turned out to be true so you know i mean i think the best thing where you think i was going for it i'm given this horrible betrayal is that he does why all this time. does anyone know from wiki leaks exactly what was handed over to the f.b.i. and if so i mean could this implicate joined us on. well that's my biggest concern actually i mean it's that or heard it in a couple of places that don't hand over eight hard drives for material he also said that he didn't hand over everything which is kind of interesting that he's saying that in the media. yeah i think definitely could have. very damaging very detrimental information and i'm sorry it's it's horrible and it's really really unfortunate because well wiki leaks may not be perfect and you're going to assign
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to certainly not perfect and i myself have had a very frustrating experience or at the end of the day the u.s. government is is the biggest terror here and biggest problem that we have in our harems and i think it's so critical that be equipped ourselves well and that you have you where you can trust and at the end of the day we challenge what's going on with the u.s. government i think city has done i mean incredible disservice to this arena you mentioned before that so you're dealing with it was kind of like going down the rabbit hole that he was kind of living in this fantasy why you think someone who was already kind of looked at in that way was trusted so intimately with this information. well i think that's a really good question and my i can only guess and what i can say is that i would imagine it's an extremely challenging for joe you know anyone around him to ever know who to trust and that environment is so bizarre it's so scary it's so stressful by. people who seem to be completely aligned with you and
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completely ready to do whatever you need them to do. very critical so jackaroo so you know maybe over time people come to trust the wrong people because you know they have reason to think that they're going to continue to be friends and allies and are not traitors so i don't have right i mean i guess the question is how do organizations such as we can deal with the fact that informants will always be trying to infiltrate them i mean it really does this breed this distrust paranoia but i want to move on to how this all ties into the stratfor leak unsolved to the other known informant in the hacking community can you elaborate on how siggy fits together with that with all these other things. yeah. well according to safety and i heard i was what's true here. and sort of have to reach outside walls and i don't have packing and it's kind of ironic and the green bird just published a piece about as a. city both being f.b.i.
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informants trying to turn the other essentially ridiculous but i think you got in touch a sob you know and you know that it all sort of a relationship or someone offered him information and i'll go on they were both they were both informants so you know i mean they're they're all else they were all kind of working together and unfortunately working to undermine joe and wiki leaks so. this really is not the first time at all that the f.b.i. has tried to infiltrate wiki leaks i mean what else have they done to try to collect information from the organization. well i think they try to turn a lot of people you know it's interesting last year when i went to new york city it's. a car for. her testimony i love so basically told me that i've been told by someone very close to all of us that i work for the f.b.i. which is absolutely absurd i mean i'm suing the u.s. government and that's our winning i'm not working with the f.b.i.
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i rather sue the f.b.i. so you know it's and i read it right it's sort of your paranoia and you just never know you can trust who is who and what is why you know what's real what's not and you know that's pretty complicated. but when i read it i mean i have been told that other people who are working very closely with me you know we're working for the u.s. government and working or we could be accidentally spying on one another and that was so terrifying to me that i ended up having an emergency meeting or it's you know your last year to try to protect myself because i started to become afraid that i or my organization was being so being tracked by the f.b.i. because we were engaged in civil liberties for. so you know our city has told me things that are very terrifying that really brought home just how serious this entire thing is just how completely dedicated u.s. government is to bring you down with you because you mean outside. we're going to go in order to do so and all of us have been jeopardized all of us have been harmed
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right and also i mean didn't wiki leaks get targeted abroad i mean in iceland i thought that they have been i was trying to actually subpoena. there's been some really willing to millions across international territory but one last question or i guess comment on that i mean has the f.b.i. actually gone over and tried to do anything in iceland with perdita. oh shari i mean obviously when they first when i first came out the f.b.i. was trying to claim it was the icelandic government that they were there on regards to preview when actually they were very rigorous you know are for arson so you know yes they're going to extreme lengths and they're being dishonest like that other nations and other asian nations governments over the way it's to which they're going to bring down wiki leaks and us are so you know it's just that and a huge eye opener for me i mean i'm a moderate democrat with a graduate degree i'm a professional and you know i'm not i'm not just an activist and. my activism in
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any way shape or form that's what i do you but i'm very serious about it and. it's the same as huge eye opener for me to become embroiled in an arena where my own government it becomes terrifying to me. you know it makes no sense and i just you know really fortunate that i was very careful to cross the right even down my eyes and never you know engage in anything slightly risky at all when it came to second are because you know he obviously was a threat to all of us so you know whether there is there are sounding the lengths that they'll go and then unfortunately the weak willed will turn and it's a really scary climate right now tendering that you so much for coming on breaking down this really crazy story tender founder of a revolution through the push it. thanks guys i'm taking a break but when i come back the journalist peter lance about the secret world of the f.b.i. and the mafia stick around. you
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it's happening according to a warrant when investigator peter lance his new book deal with the devil details exactly how this kind of immoral activity has been supported and funded by the bureau it specifically takes a look at the relationship between the f.b.i. and mafioso gregory scarpa senior a man who spent more than thirty years as a top informant while committing crime after crime and he did so also paid upwards of one million dollars so why is the f.b.i. working with instead of cracking down on organized crime and here to break it down is peter lance himself author of the book deal with the devil peter thank you so much for coming on great to be with you abbie and you know who would have thought that it took would take a twenty nine year old hacker to turn barack obama into george bush. absolutely well first of all why did the f.b.i. recruit a criminal mafioso i mean what was in it for both parties here well it first of all for years as you know j. edgar hoover even denied the existence of the mafia but when he finally came around
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and he kind of had to face it they began this thing called the top echelon informant program wherein they would recruit mobsters who would supposedly give them good intelligence that they could use to bust other mobsters but gregory scarpa sr was the most violent vicious. member of organized crime in the history of cause in austria he had a seventy thousand dollars a week drug operation he was the largest trafficker of stolen credit cards in new york had an international auto theft ring had a bank robbery bypassed crew that on weekends would steal thirteen million dollars a pop he's hijackings a bully on plutonium. he actually would trade in negotiable securities with face value of a half a million a pop and three separate strike forces of the justice to. partment of which the f.b.i. is a part three strike forces in newark chicago and brooklyn were trying to put this guy away while secretly behind the scenes the f.b.i. was trying to keep them on the street so what was the f.b.i.
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isn't ten on gavin what what were they gathering from him this information about other other aspects of the mob you know well the official goal was to basically break destroy what they call the mafia enemy but they were what they were doing was essentially cointelpro remember counterintelligence program that hoover created to go against the ku klux klan and then he turned it on the antiwar movement in the in the civil rights movement actually bugging martin luther king well when they had the church pike committee hearings in the seventies this was supposed to be done member the hearings that also expose the cia's family jewels plots to kill castro using mafioso to kill castro the idea of using a killer from the mafia to do government business at the time in the seventy's was found to be so shocking that absolutely the bureau was going to knuckle down they created things something called the attorney general guidelines to make sure this would never happen again you could never have a confidential informant that did any thing more than a misdemeanor to protect discover never could you could they commit
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a violent crime and murder was completely off the table abbi but what i found in this in this epic investigation this book deal with the devil and i have by the way many many documents on my website peter lance dot com what i found was that the bureau repeatedly just you know endorsed this guy's behavior at the highest levels and all of his debriefing memos many of which i have in the book went to the director from hoover all the way to louis freeh so brass in washington knew what was going on and yet they thought that well you know if we keep this guy in the street he's going to do us a lot of good it he was the worst mobster ever they should have had other informants trying to put him away so you're saying that this criminal activity was happening while scarpa was involved being paid by the f.b.i. and the f.b.i. not only knew about it but encouraged this type of crime. absolutely you know the colombo families one of the five new york crime families and the great new york times reporter selwyn rabb wrote a great book called five families and at the time of what was called the third
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colombo war the colombo family only has like one hundred thirty made geyser did and yet compared to like six hundred for the gambino family godey's family and yet they had the most violence over the years of any family they had that was called the profile wars in the early sixty's the gallo wars in the seventies were joey gallo was famously killed in burroughs clam house in little italy and then this third war from one thousand nine hundred one to ninety three in which fourteen people were killed in brooklyn new york including two innocent bystanders my book proves not only did gregory scarpa sr instigate and propagate the war with his enemy victory in a just plain defense the whole time but linda vecchio his contacting their control agent leaked information to him during the course of the war that allowed him to continue killing people so you know it was it was really was what amounted to a cointelpro today or up until the early one thousand nine hundred twenty years after the church quite committees basically a paid assassin and i mean taking out the people that they are you know they're giving him inside information scott was actually indicted
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a number of times yet the charges were dropped i mean was the f.b.i. integral in keeping him free from prosecution as well you mentioned it goes up pretty far how far of this really got oh well he was arrested twenty two times that i was able to determine and he only did thirty days in over forty years of murder mayhem and racketeering and particularly linda vecchio his last contact the agent admitted ultimately that he intervened to help him one point one nine hundred eighty six the u.s. secret service and understand these are good people in our government who are trying to eradicate organized crime the secret service arrests greg outside of his ironically named wimpy boy's social club in brooklyn and they bust him and he could have gotten a two hundred fifty thousand dollar fine and seven years in prison and the cia scuse me the sea. service is vigorously and the brooklyn strike force trying to put him away linda vecchio goes to his judge and at the time scarpa had gotten a contract of the hiv virus so he ultimately died of aids like in early ninety two
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but this is one nine hundred eighty six and linda vecchio pleads with the judge to let him out on the street and they basically give him a risk they give him a ten thousand dollars fine and probation and if he had gone to prison at that point abbie he never would have been able to wage the third war and fourteen people would still be alive and you just mentioned linda that he was also an indicted and not charged as well for murder how i mean how is that was when we're even talking about someone that's in the mafia we're talking about this the f.b.i. supervisor actually being let off for murder charges well linda was indicted by the brooklyn d.a. in two thousand and six on four counts of murder conspiracy but as and the case was dismissed kind of abruptly after two weeks of trial after it was believed that scarpa or common law wife linda cheryl had lied i proved in my book that she did not lie and i also like basically did the first time it analyzed why the brooklyn d.a. blew the case they really blew the case but unlike the way bulger case in boston
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right now that's ongoing that's a parallel kind of thing where you have a top echelon criminal informant who is killing people getting intelligence from the is f.b.i. handler john connally in the bulger case connally was vigorously prosecuted by state and federal prosecutors and he's doing life linda vecchio trial ended abruptly and i prove in this book that the justice department went out of their way not only did they pay part of his legal fees which is unheard of they actually took one great junior his son was going to be the star witness for the d.a. it was a it was on the in the m.c.c. federal jail in lower manhattan they actually brought abdulla who came a rod an al qaeda terrorist across the country to glower at him clue witness tampering it could only have happened from the justice department bureau resins i want is getting another point really. is this happening now because you're talking about a case that is you know it late eighty's early ninety's here i mean is is the f.b.i. is still infiltrating the mafia are they still working together now well we don't
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know because these are secret operations but there was eric holder actually had a publicity stunt in january of two thousand and eleven that i have in my book deal with the w.c. it in the afterward in which one hundred twenty seven mafioso were arrested and they made this huge press conference the mob the biggest mob boss in f.b.i. history this is during the obama administration ok turns out less than thirty of these guys were actually made guys bunch of them were geriatric seventy eighty years old and it was just a publicity stunt the real threat from organized crime now you know comes from eastern european and russian mafia members not the traditional sicilian mafia so the priorities are misplaced but the big here's the quickie i'll tell you the biggest problem they took their eye off the counterterrorism ball forever bothering italians f.b.i. all these years this obsession to get john gotti and they they lost they miss this metastasizing al qaeda cell that was in new york city for years that ended up taking the towers down and nine eleven so you're saying that they have session on the mob is actually prevented real terrorism efforts real counterterrorism efforts
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yeah on my website peter lance dot com i have a story of a check cashing store in jersey city called sphinx trading the f.b.i. knew about it in seventy one ninety four two of the hijackers got their fake i.d.'s there abbie in the summer of two thousand and eleven all they had to do was put a surveillance plan across the street like they did with john gotti as reaganite social club they would have been in the middle of the nine eleven plot the area thank you so much really important story investigative journalist and author of deal with the devil. thank you. so after a tense forty eight hour ultimatum the egyptian military overthrew a democratically elected president mohamed morsi with the support of tens of millions of egyptians now that the constitution is suspended it's uncertain what lies ahead for the country however i'm hopeful that elections will come soon that gypsy next hour. the leader will truly reflect the values of its people so with that said i want to extend my solidarity with the people of egypt today and to all of you have a wonderful night. last
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