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it's thursday july eleventh eight pm in washington d.c. i'm making lopez and you are watching r t well let's start with the latest information coming out about edward snowden's diplomatic standstill the man responsible for the n.s.a. disclosures is believed to be still what the moscow airport but take a look at this today a flight that left from moscow airport took an unusual trip on its way to cuba instead of its normal trek flight one fifty headed west over central europe crossing bell roost poland germany and then france here's a look at the route it was supposed to take and has been doing so for four times a week for years the reasoning the pilots gave for the weird route was turbulence over real and but still people are wondering was this an attempt to get edward snowden out of the country well earlier i spoke with jesselyn radack about the situation she's the national security and human rights director at the government accountability project and i started off by asking her about the chances that

edward snowden would take a commercial flight since he's already had his passport resend it. i would think they would be pretty low because i expect that there are reporters on the lookout everywhere in the transit area of the russian airport and on the planes that fly those few routes and in any country even cuba is kind of a question mark about whether it would grant or deny airspace and also i don't know if the administration can survive another and they're seeing the libya moment like they had before and just to remind our viewers that was a moment when president evo morales his plane was actually diverted and landed in austria because there was allegations that he might be on board that plane hiding out somewhere but let's talk about the possibility of other options in order to move him away from moscow what about boats what about land is does he have any other options right now than planes and flying out i'm sure there are many other options that are being looked at and pursued but i think the more important

question to ask is why is someone who has been granted political asylum by three different countries. having so much trouble getting to a country of refuge here is someone who has been found to have a valid fear of political persecution and we have the persecuting nation the u.s. leaning on those countries that have offered him asylum that's completely inappropriate and of noxious for the persecutor to be leaning on countries that of offered him refuge to somehow expel him once he arrives or to disrupt his transit there it's just shameful and if he did somehow sneak out of the moscow airport and end up in a country where there is asylum offers it wouldn't be the first time i know there was a lot of questions circulating around julianna songe on whether or not he was going to try to sneak out of the ecuadorian embassy in london you know through through

a trunk of a car or flew baggage or something like that so want to be the first time that something like that has happened. but yes he did i know that a lot of the questions around this case is that obviously the plane is going to have to refuel there are no really direct flights from moscow to any of these countries really so if it did refuel in cuba would snowden be safe in cuba right we don't know that's why i would think the safest route would be a private plane that would have the ability to fly directly to a country of refuge but of course so a cost a lot of money but i'm sure there are other people out there far better at transit myself who are working on this option but again why is there a worldwide manhunt mainly being propelled by the united states after a whistleblower who has revealed so many illegalities we should be doing a manhunt of the everyone in the n.s.a. and of all the people who have approved these highly illegal programs we should be doing

a domestic search for them rather than surveilling our own people here in the u.s. and another really big question is what kind of effect what kind of fallout will just have on whatever country he ends up landing in do you think that there will be some type of geo political fall out with that country or for that instance with cuba if cuba decides to let the plane land refuel and take off again without obtaining snowden in their possession i think any country that is just snowden they're definitely going to get a lot of growl ing and the rats from the u.s. but the u.s. is beginning to look really desperate right now and if they keep in gauging in this overkill and pressuring other countries and maybe doing economic sanctions i mean i really do think that's kind of over the top and that people around the world are starting to rebel at the actions the u.s. has taken so far in trying to catch snowden i mean can you imagine lay would be

expended this much taxpayer money and energy going after this guy who revealed highly illegal. programs it just shows they are driven to distraction by leaks which are really whistleblowers or anyone giving information that the u.s. finds embarrassing or that exposes its own illegality very interesting jesselyn radack with the government accountability project thank you so much a few meanwhile here in the u.s. human rights groups are praising the three latin american countries that have offered edward snowden asylum venezuela bolivia and nicaragua this morning the code pink activist group marched to the embassies of those three countries to show their gratitude for for handing over to heading over to the u.s. justice department to protest the n.s.a. surveillance programs as well as the manhunt for the man who leaked all of those documents sam fax was at the code pink rally and he tells us more. today a coalition of civil libertarians in washington d.c.

went on a thank you tour visiting the embassies of those nations that have offered n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden asylum and we're here outside the venezuelan embassy where a group of civil libertarians have gathered to thank them to say officials for offering asylum to edward snowden the screw behind me is gone from the bolivian embassy to the nec wrong embassy to now the venezuelan embassy all countries that have offered snowden asylum in all countries that are willing to defy u.s. authority here in the region in the last fifteen years there's been a huge geopolitical shift there and these countries are now much more independent of the united states and europe. for example europe is and that's something that wasn't true you know in most of the last hundred hundred years this is a a matter of international human rights you know that is how amnesty international said it very clearly he has a right to asylum that the united states is committing gross violations of his human rights by trying to block his right to asylum and of course he's a whistleblower exposed major abuses by the u.s.

government and he should be protected but the embassy tour was just the first half of today's action next it was on to the department of justice by what your point was what your call for austerity do you the executive cried. so we moved from a thank you tour at the embassies offering asylum is to snowden you know a protester at the department of justice civil libertarians behind me are saying the department of justice relentless effort to arrest snowden from taking away his passport to strong arming foreign governments is not only violating his rights as a whistleblower resorts as a human being as well i think it's. a wonderful thing that there are countries that are willing to stand up to the united states strong arming to try to stop them from giving asylum which is an international right to seek asylum but the demonstrators recognize this isn't just about edward snowden's fate it's also about what we've the american people do with his rebel. it took six courts. to carve out

pointed out in the fact that there is no transparency into these programs that there's been no checks and balances in these programs that there's been no accountability for the government abuses here suggests to me that what edward snowden did was a very vital public service for our nation to enable finally a long overdue public debate on these very fundamental questions it's no damn self said that what he most feared is that things wouldn't change and that puts a two man this burden on us and it really is a defining moment and what we want our society to look like whatever happens to snowden in the short term whether it finds asylum or not is still a big question mark also a question what happens with these leaks fifty five percent of the american people think that snowden is a whistleblower and a plurality of american people think that the government has overstepped its bounds in mass surveillance of americans but with the executive branch the legislative branch and the judiciary branch seemingly on board with these programs the american people only to resort to events like this to have their voice heard in washington

sam so far to. well it was a surprising move even to those who have been following the case closely over the years the defense team for army private first class bradley manning rested its case on wednesday after calling only ten of an expected twenty one witnesses to testify the trial will resume next week up and we were the prosecution will actually issue a bottle for all of those witnesses are to correspondent liz wahl has been in court since day one and she breaks down the latest developments for us. after just three days of testimony that offense and bradley manning's military trial rest its case the prosecution's case went much longer with the court hearing from dozens of witnesses over the span of six weeks that i was most struck by the. by how little evidence the prosecution has brought. some would argue and exhaustible resource for the prosecution aim to prove bradley manning aided the

enemy when he sent over seven hundred thousand classified documents to wiki leaks according to the government manning should have known that by doing so al-qaeda would have seen the information they had testimony stating that some of the documents recovered from osama bin laden's compound in pakistan came from wiki leaks the testimony entered into the court also said this man adam gadahn a u.s. citizen turned out qaeda operative used information and video obtained from wiki leaks in his propaganda videos but hard evidence was sparse the prosecution presented two tweets believed to be sent by wiki leaks the first asking for someone to leak military addresses the second claiming to have possession of a secret encrypted video of an airstrike in afghanistan also admitted as evidence of wiki leaks most wanted list of two thousand and nine a list that mapped out secret documents the whistle blowing website wanted to get ahold of the prosecution was trying to prove that manning was conspiring with

julian assad to the founder of wiki leaks and an effort to get the documents on the answer but the defense pointed out that there is no proof manning ever saw the tweets or any other requests from wiki leaks. the defense kicked off its case by showing this video of the now infamous video collateral murder that manning leaked it shows an apache helicopter. they're firing down on civilians on the ground in iraq all thirty nine minutes were played in court in the defense phase of the trial manning's attorney david coombs trying to characterize manning as a whistleblower a young man that was talented with computers and excelled at his job as an intelligence analyst on the third day the defense called their key witness i don't think there's going to there's been a day that or what the witness is you. harvard law school professor renowned for

his work and published articles on internet freedom and how a free press of facts democracy he's done extensive research on the history of wiki leaks when it first emerged he said wiki leaks was respected by traditional media but after manning's leaks he said government rhetoric associated the website with terrorism bangalore testified that the media's tone toward wiki leaks changed specifically citing this claim on fox news this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be shot i'm not for the death penalty show if i'm not for the death i don't want to do it illegally shoot the shot of a despite the attacks benker said wiki leaks plays a critical role in the media today supporters at the trial called dangler again changer it's too dangerous to convict someone of just giving documents to a news organization to criminalize that is something akin to treason and so i think that testimony really covered their central arguments that manning did not take the

stand in the trial after the defense rested he told the judge it was his decision not to testify the government announced they intend to have a rebuttal case next week the possibility of that will be discussed if not closing arguments may happen early next week ultimately it's up to one person the judge to decide manning's fate in washington liz wall r.t. and we've talked about how the revelations about the national security agency surveillance of america. affects their rights to privacy one thing we have not the sky though the effect of wiretapping on taxpayer wallets because you better believe that the telecommunication industry isn't handing over all of that information for free or to correspondent aaron eight has more. so how much are your private phone conversations worth to you you know those personal interactions with the people you love about the things you hold dear well they're probably priceless but the u.s. government has priced them out at about fifty grand

a piece that's how much your private conversations are worth to them and depending upon the technology quite a bit more now in the era of intense government surveillance a murky multimillion dollar market has emerged and it's all being paid for with your tax dollars and with a little public scrutiny surveillance fees charged by technology companies and phone companies can vary widely now for example. is a three hundred twenty five dollars activation fee for a wiretap and then ten additional dollars to maintain it smaller carriers like cricket and u.s. cellular they charge only about two hundred fifty per wiretap but see above arising customers that cost the government seven hundred seventy five dollars for the first month and five hundred additional dollars each month after that now how do we know all this this is because earlier this week the us federal court system published its annual wiretap report to congress in it details about the day to day businesses of telecoms handing over data to law enforcement is revealed it includes

a breakdown of every major carriers fees and every sort of data request now the average cost of a wiretap order last year was fifty thousand four hundred fifty two dollars and of those wiretaps ordered only eighteen percent actually led to a conviction and as of tuesday as it may sound this is how government prosecutors measure their own success by how many bodies they incarcerate regardless to how ridiculous the offense may be so using the number from this report for every conviction they get from wiretapping the government waste over two hundred seventy thousand dollars on other wiretaps the produce absolutely nothing and this is this on their own metric for success this is a minor no mean a waste of taxpayer dollars on surveillance that clearly delivers ineffective intelligence now if americans are disturbed by cell phone carriers handing. out there phone users personal data to law enforcement en masse and many times without a warrant we might at least be interested in how much that service is costing us in tax dollars from washington d.c.

ameritrade r t. well ten days after congress missed the deadline to come up with a deal on interest rates for students and looks like lawmakers are ready to broker a deal now as a reminder interest rates doubled on july first from three point four percent to six point eight percent but here's what the tentative agreement would look like interest rates would be tied to a ten year treasury bond meeting that for stafford student loans students would pay the treasury rate plus one point eight percent for federal parent plus loans interest would be a ten year yield plus four point five percent and all interest rates would be capped at eight point two five percent for undergraduate students so does this agreement solve the problem and get america's higher education system back on track for more i was joined earlier by richard fowler he's a nationally syndicated radio host as well as natalia she's the co-founder of the student debt crisis and i started by asking natalia if she was happy with this

tentative deal. not at all this is a last minute temporary not temporary excuse me a last minute fix that we were actually unaware of until this morning you know yesterday the breaking news as they came in no deal and this morning here behold we have this deal that none of us wanted we're putting we're expecting future students to continue to pay the price. it does not make sense why interest rates would not be point seven five the way that elizabeth warren talks about the same rate that the banks borrow at yes it's ok for the next couple of years but it's already projected in two thousand and sixteen that graduate students will start to pay more than the what they're paying now so we do not think this is a great fix at all and we also don't think that this deals with the existing trillion dollars that's currently out there now richard this idea is similar to ones that both republicans and democrats were putting out before the july first

deadline so my first question to you is why now well i agree with you i think and i agree to tell you i think the fact the president put a plan out there would be students objected to the market was bad the fact the republicans for the plan that would make students object to the market that's also bad and the fact that the federal government is going to slated to make fifty one billion dollars off of this is also bad when you have when so it's like students are in the negative going into the trillions and trillions of dollars of debt and the federal government having to make a fifty one billion dollars in profit cut out of our so-called deficit so i think the problem that we have here is there's no consensus on the hill to solve this problem and unfortunately while there is no consensus on the hill where people are more concerned about raising campaign cash the american students continue to suffer and to tell you a lot of people talk about this student loan hike and they talk about the fact that it happened on july first but do you think that we are losing track as richard says of the larger overarching debate now just because it's raising now and we still

have one trillion dollars in current student debt. yeah well here's my diploma from the c.l.a. right over there that's where i went to school and i wish that this was worth more i went back to school when i was twenty six years old to get a degree to get a better job and it didn't work i have only fifteen thousand dollars in debt and i say only because the national average is twenty seven thousand but it's far too much for two years of an education and i'm discouraged from going to graduate school which i was accepted to because i'm not about to take on another sixty thousand i'm part of the existing one trillion dollars that are one point zero that's out there and we need to deal with that that's the only way we're going to overhaul the system is if we actually focus on that one point two trillion dollars all of these interest rate hikes are such a small amount of the debate compared to the over thirty nine million borrowers with the existing debt i think is completely right i think you know i told when sallie mae calls me or when the banks come in i want them i want to say hey listen

do you want my degree back you can repossess it if you like because you take a you and i think that the face of student loan debt has been sort of skewed by those on the right to be lazy the student to sit home and drink beers at home with their parents it's just not true when you look at the statistic tells you a majority of borrowers are over thirty over there working full time job easier teachers you're firefighters you're nurses and your police officers and while they're trying to protect the american people they're being sort of being dealt a bad hand by the american government absolutely and now richard there is something else i want to talk to you about dealing with this tentative plan if it does in fact pass and everyone agrees on it it would have retroactively take back that student debt hike that happened on july first so this is not the first time that we have seen something retroactively not happen my question to you is what is the point of having deadlines if it can just be retroactively taken back time and time again i agree with you i don't understand why this congress has put in deadlines i think it has everything to do with the fact that john boehner is in effect of being a leader as well as i think you know we have to call the some democrats and because

of the. they belong this to you cannot sit here and say you're for the students and you're for young people for millennial to reclaim up to vote for the president and democrats in record numbers and you don't see them protecting young people all the time as they should and we should i think we saw this with warren come out protect young people we've seen sure brown in a brand from the senator from new york come out and say we need to refinance the debt or deal with the debt well that's just not good enough were those democrats in for those virginia democrats those ohio democrats those middle of the road democrats who students voted for young who voted for understand that this was to be our hope and change and so i think but it's but it's beyond that though you have to get involved in the process it's very interesting considering the fact that right now student overtakes credit card debt and this is a country that was supposed to be leading the world in terms of education innovation except richard fowler is the nationally syndicated radio host and natalia abrams is the co-founder of student debt crisis. well what's better than twenty twenty vision one inventor thinks he may have the answer to that question

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what started on just a piece of paper when just imagine how we could use it brought this veteran virtual reality eventually one step closer to his dream i am happy guy. simple looking plastic particles come out of a three d. printer to become one of the products of the royals it's a smartphone will come here in adjustable sizes these specs can be used with smartphones i phones or tablets two shots become one three d. image flying you see the guards but for the first time the inventor says the world of virtual reality can be accessed without wires or prices in the hundreds of dollars oh my. there's creatures attacking a smartphone simply clicks on to the goggles and a thick lens brings the user literally face to face with a three d. fantasy world. dogs running towards me instead of being observed on a screen at a distance movies photos and games can be enjoyed at the widest viewing angle

possible this is. yes. this game is much scarier than the previous one right now ray has several sample games that he uses to show how his goggles work but with the invention just in its first stages he says it has the potential for millions of applications and users. the inventor says the three sixty's specs can appeal to any family because with these goggles anybody can watch whatever they want without fighting over there are no with the additional bonus of no one else be able to tell what game or film is being watched on a plane bus. or train a whole new world all to yourselves oh god there's a giant monster graham greene and you know. new york well the expanded use of smart phones has led to an increasingly lucrative map industry from the facebook to games from facebook to games there seems to be an app for just about anything but this technology made it easy might have crossed the line after developers created

games based on you recent u.s. tragedies the residents laurie harkness has more. today there is the nap for anything you could possibly want which is great right except for all those murder apps that people are making a case in point an app developer just made an app called angry trayvon after trayvon martin a seventeen year old was slain in florida and the killer is now on trial for murder in the game trayvon the child who was killed pulls

a face ball bat and attacked other characters as just a couple as that is just it's hardly the first time that some at a game maker has tried to profit off of someone else's violent tragedy it was recently burger bash and i'm fine video game where charles ramsey the guy who found the kidnapped girls in ohio throws burgers at ariel castro the kidnapper there was class warfare again the takes place in sandy hook elementary school where you get to be a killer adam lanza and hear child deaths screams and offensive references to autism there was the boston marathon terror on the street game where the boston bombings were recreated graphically complete with pools of blood and terrific images there was chris dorner is the last stand he was the former l.a. cop who is wanted for murder a central figure to a huge manhunt was eventually farrah cade inside of burning log cabin in the game

your chris dorner gunning down cops after cops while eating k.f.c. to regenerate house. there was a game called super columbine massacre there was an app called dan lothian can lick my. you know you get the point there are so many apps and games built around bloody tragedies making money off of horrific event that's capitalism at its greedy best for you. the argument used to be that violent video games created killers but now it's the other way around we'll take a with one man's tragedy being another is entertainment and yet another cash cow has the internet and technology turns us all into callous jerks detached from reality or are we using these apps and games as a way to process our feelings toward

a really screwed up world either way if you find yourself playing as game based on someone else's tragedy you might want to spend some time trying to figure out why you're ok with it but don't worry i'm sure there's an app for that. tonight let's talk about that by following me on twitter at the rest. all right and that's going to do it for me for tonight but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our to america. today on politicking turmoil in egypt as the united states struggles to find the path forward immigration reform it hangs in the balance. and want to do about the leaker edward snowden is all next on politicking with larry king.

good afternoon welcome to prime interest i'm bob english in washington d.c. here are the stories we're telling today well so much for the summer doldrums after the markets closed yesterday then told the markets begin to move in gold he said the easy money spigot will remain open wax on wax off well talk we'll talk market manipulation with the gatto next and there is a chill blowing through tech when that's because after apple's gamble to go to trial well the judge came down hard she will get an antitrust suit that apple was guilty of price fixing e-books now the tech giant.