more news today violence has once again flared up. these are the images seen from the streets and canada. operations. he led the democratic party of last summer's national democratic presidential convention he demanded immigration reform from congress and led los angeles as the first hispanic mayor in over a century of a coloring a celebrity himself at ways for all of their aunts only all the other of those is coming up next on politicking with larry king. welcome to politicking with larry king our guests one of the major political

figures in america tony will be over those he served as mayor of los angeles from july of two thousand and five to july of two thousand and thirteen and was national cochairman of the larry clinton surprise eventually but in two thousand and eight he chaired the democratic convention two thousand and twelve served two terms as the forty first mayor of l.a. the first latino to hold that post in one hundred thirty years ago who had one hundred thirty years ago who was another guy. another guy what was it tough to leave. of course you know look at i was born and raised in l a grandpa got here one hundred years ago from mexico the shirt on his back and built a small business into a thriving one and had two children and nine grandchildren so america's been good to us and l.a. has been great to me and yes to it's tough to leave but i'm not looking back it was a great years i was speaker of this family before that if you remember untrue and

a council member but. those eight years are over and i'm looking to the future or if you look back on i will just say it was my number one accomplishment was. you know what i think i'm proudest that you mention that i was the first today half the people approve of my performance the other have doesn't but almost nobody mentions that anymore i think in a lot of ways l.a. is a lot more comfortable with its diversity they're a lot more comfortable with the fact that we come from every corner of the earth and maybe you played a small role and opening up a door and i've always said when i look back on those eight years i understood that the role of the first open of the door for the rest so education improving our schools was my biggest priority keeping us safe or safer than a time since one nine hundred fifty two along with new york this great city here where the safest big city in the united states of america anything made you want to

do you didn't get first and foremost is making sure that. our pension system is solvent and we've got a long way with we don't we had our employees double their contributions to pensions the most of any city in the country but they still got to do a lot more we reduced the structural deficit from one point one billion dollars to about one hundred fifty million we're on track to be in a surplus in the next three years but there's a lot of things we need to do to put us on a more sustainable path for so many years to cover what what do you make of the impact but will a clean nose now in this whole federal government that they pretty much can decide future elections. well that's something that it is what it is but it's something that i hope the republican party and members of the house will understand

you know when they talked about the self deportation eleven million people or and focus on the border in the way that they do what they forget is the end documented don't just come from mexico or latin america about forty percent of them are visa overstayers they come from all over the world and when they stay past their visa and that's exactly right and the kind of vitriolic rhetoric that you see around. immigration and illegal immigration. that just focuses on mexico and the border is i think reprehensible to a lot of people and so what you're seeing not just latino's but asians as well voted over seventy percent for democrats and you know the democrats don't have a birth right to that vote but for as long as republicans. are as

scapegoating in their rhetoric and polarizing as long as they continue to point the finger at one group in the way that they do i think you're going to see that they're not going to get a lot of support in that community immigration the moment what did you make of the toxic effect of the whole zimmerman case it was tartans very painful you know. i think most people looking at that case feel like. an injustice occurred and yet our jury system is such and florida laws are such that made it very difficult to convict mr zimmerman i know that african-americans feel very wrong and you can understand why as someone said if the situation had been turned around and mr zimmerman was a black man and the person who died was. well you know america

or whoever probably would have been a different result. ok immigration reform do you think the house is going to do something with really really taste something that i think if they don't there will be repercussions at the ballot box and i think if they don't they're really hurting the u.s. economy there's a one point five trillion dollar economic impact to take in these people from out of the dark and to into life and we live in l.a. you and i and l.a. one out of ten one out of ten angelenos is undocumented forty two percent are foreign born fifty seven percent of angelenos have at least one person who is foreign born we've got to fix this broken immigration system the problem with the house is that mr boehner said that he won't put a bill on the floor until a majority republican support and as we know the districts were so gerrymandered

particularly the republican districts so that many of them don't really care if you have immigration reform so it's got an up or uphill road from their party stand for the republican party standpoint isn't it couldn't you nose to spite your face without us are you not going to vote for a course that doesn't impact your community but on the national scale you know we're mentioning or a lot of them don't care about that that's what's broken i mean look i've said many times it's more broken on the right but it's also broken on the left but it's definitely more broken on the right particularly on social issues you know when i was in tampa for the republican convention i was doing a little point counterpoint they said you know if you close your eyes it feels like the rhetoric inside that hall feels like not two thousand and twelve but eight hundred twelve there is so. retrograde in on social issues and particularly on this issue of immigration so i'm not sure they care one way or the

other any more than they care about the issue of choice or you know marriage of. already are. democratic and human rights for gays they're very socially. not only conservative but but radical in this respect as obama been strong enough in this area i think he has tried to push. the congress but he also understood that if it had too much of his imprint there would be some pushback particular least initially in the senate and also in the house but it's got an uphill road without question if mr boehner decides to put it on the floor without a majority republicans but i think you can get a bill but if he doesn't it's going to be very very difficult for. the census bureau i'm surprised that there's more white people die in two thousand and twelve

than were born the united states is projected to become a majority minority by twenty forty three. that frightens some earth and should baby it should look what happened in two thousand and one when i first ran you know people talked about what does it mean you know that they've taken over you know two thousand and five you know i get elected with fifty nine percent of the vote i crossed over got support in virtually every community today as i said you know people either like you don't like you but nobody really mentions the fact that my parents came my grandparents came from mexico i think as as america becomes more diverse people are going to get more and more accustomed to that diversity that they're going to actually see it could be an assett look at l.a. we come from every corner of the earth we move forty four percent of all the seaborne goods where the capital the pacific rim connected to china and korea mexico latin america you know we are in

a unique juxtaposition to be able to take advantage of that so i think america should take advantage of its diversity as well we've got to educate these people very definitely we've got to integrate them and if we fix the broken immigration system we've got to bring them from out of the dark and into the life. of a thing is you a co-chair of the marie's presidential campaign and we've been in touch with just for have no way i have when she spoke in l.a. i actually had dinner with her afterwards and we had a great discussion i was with her think i went five times to iowa for her i was with her flew with her when she won in new hampshire i was with her when she won in nevada went all over the country for her afterwards i went all over the country for . president obama and i can tell you that. you know she's mulling over the future i don't think she should move too quickly you don't

want a four year campaign and then an eight year presidency she's in a really good position right now she's got great great. approval ratings all around the country and around the world people like the job she did as secretary of state i think as she should take some time to reflect and nothing is you know where she stands as a run nothing is certain that's right but will she be a lock first of all if you want to be nomination where you think people would surround her in your party i think people will always challenge you for variety of reasons but and no one's an absolute lock but if anyone is close to a lock she would be that person most of us who have worked with her own or respect or believe that she would be a great president but it has to come from inside here if you don't fill it in the gut then you shouldn't do it did you get the sense this is just an opinion that she

feels that in the gut. i think it's too early right now really frankly i think that she i know there are a lot of people telling her to do it and to make a decision now she doesn't have to because she has the kind of support that she does around the country she can continue to give speeches write books start to formulate. an agenda for the future because i think while i've said it's more broken on the right there really is it's broken on the left too and our party has to be a party of jobs and job creation a party that is growing the economy investing in infrastructure a party that's you know reimagine itself in the twenty first century i guess the form is hard to say for me when i talk to. is the former mayor of los angeles antonio via a go so i will be back right after this. here

is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call. a dollar. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares about what you. are you know what kind of my son. wants us to defeat terrorism the only poll that chris. here's a clip of the. news media distracts us from what you and i should care about because there are profit driven industry that thought officials that garbage because that breaking news i'm happy martin and we're going to break that.

mission. couldn't take three. three. three. three. three. three both video for your media project free media r t dot com. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harkin welcome to the big picture. and yes the former mayor of los angeles antonio viewer of those on this edition of politicking always great to be with him as a good friend too of

a guy and nice knowing that he's so to be active of course you said you're going to run for governor are you going to run for governor full of you said that you're you're over it i said is that's that. i believe in public service i would like to run for governor and if i was a betting person i will but a lonely run if i thought i could make a difference and let me tell you why you look at california today. we're not investing in people in infrastructure in education we're not innovating in our schools. we we have a broken tax system that just isn't working we were taxing people into effect a tax rate of fifty three percent the highest in the country. we're not taxing property in the way that we should prop thirteen and it hasn't been reform since one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. we spend so much on prisons and not enough on schools and if it were really not investing. in what

the strengths are the pillars of the of the california economy so if i thought i could make a difference yes i'm going to run for governor a critical governor brown no i think given where we were we're in a better place today because we elected governor brown but i think was developed work to do interesting to watch as you know not so much i'm going to take one of these and i'm going to take a time out i think it's important after eight years is mare to is the city council member majority whip majority leader and speaker take some time to kind of reflect on this twenty year public service term of mine i think i'll probably affiliate with a think tank or a university. do a little private. you know work in the private sector for a bit. join as one of the speakers bureau been talking to them about to make

a decision very very soon and probably travel to china korea mexico latin america you know and when you look at not just l.a. but america the fastest growing economies are in asia and the growing markets are in latin america and someone from l.a. someone who bilingual who has the kinds of relationships i do could help to bring more business more investment more trade more tourism more country owns a perfectly new overcame a personal scandal and a marriage of a woman but you know we came with how do you think there would come up again in a governance we're always comes up you know and you know with oh how do you handle the out the way you do someone asked me the other day do you think it will hurt you politically i said you know it hurt my family that's what bothers me more you know i know you and your kids and how much you love them well i love my kids too and my

kids and i are closer. then we've ever been and you know that period that was pretty painful form will come up politically absolutely those things always do in the end people are going to make a decision about whether or not you're the right person for a job based on what you've done and based on your vision for the future and what you're going to do well murder shown there is a second act there's always a second act remember all of us i mean it is a forgiving country. where you make of that when you see things like much different than yours the empathy winners and now the eliot spitzer's what do you make of this and this is he said we're both both onslaughts this one is running for city can control or the other they are mer look i think ultimately. people are going to look at them in the way that i just mentioned and you're right

very different situation they're going to look at what they plan to do for the future they'll make an assessment about whether or not they have the wherewithal to do what they say they're going to do compare them to the other candidates in the race in the make a decision i don't think anybody really knows right now what that decision will be because in an election you know you got a back and forth and you know and people there it's very fluid one of us that acts as mayor and wonder if there was rewarding to you and how you felt is you married a gay couple you officiator since one nine hundred ninety four when i joined the gay and lesbian caucus it was only one. has been openly lesbian a family member she asked me to join i've been for marriage equality i've been for gay and lesbian civil rights i authored the first nondiscrimination bill i was the co-author of the first domestic partnership registry i believe in marriage equality

at. it's a fundamental liberty and right it was a kick to do it it was it was just it was one of the pinch the cheek moment in some ways you know there's no question about it i knew the couple who were the plaintiffs there were two the four plaintiffs. california cases where threw it out that's right and. very close to chad griffin who's the guy who we both know kind of pushed this case along with rob reiner and others and it was a it was a proud moment to be able to marry those two and i actually married two neighbors who knocked on my door and now living in venice they knocked on my door the day of the decision they said you got to marry me you got a marriage said who are you and they said we're your neighbors so i married them on saturday before i could marry people anymore. one of the great discussions in america as obama put it it's worthy of discussion on both sides privacy versus security equals the snowden matter where you stand. i don't know all the details of

the snowden matter but it seems like he's committed a crime you know if he thought america was doing something wrong there are ways for him to share that not divulging. secret information. to the public in the way that is done again i don't know enough about the case they filed charges but i think i think he's in all likelihood has committed a federal crime do we have to be concerned about this constitutionally we're open free nation that someone could be looking down at us now but like i said there's a right way to do something in a wrong way if he had real evidence of the wrongdoing on the part of the government yes every right to follow appropriate channels and to and to divulge that i don't think he did that and that's the

problem and that's why it's been subjected to federal charges in the way as you have advocated what you call the radical middle right to find that. you know the radical middle merits are not as partisan they're not as doctrinaire as you know the senators in the congress people and really a lot of the folks in the state house were focused on getting things done and there are some examples of the right radical middle when everybody was talking about you know whether we stay in iraq or afghanistan a lot of us were saying hey. we can't build bridges and hospitals in baghdad and kandahar not and not in baltimore in kansas city city we took on immigration reform marriage equality we've taken on. education reform seniority in tenure so we've hit the left as well we've taken on pension reform we've said that it's

ridiculous to say that we're not going to reform entitlements that you can you can reform social security without without privatizing it and you can reform medicare without turning into a voucher care so it's it's that path that moves us forward where are we now in the political paradigm of polarization everybody pointing fingers nobody doing anything for people focused on ideology and and they're for the philosophical underpinnings and i'm getting things done and i think there is a body politics that's thirsting for people that will get things done and probably more people are in that category i think something great i really do there's certainly not and i think our party you know as a democrat again i chaired the democratic party convention i think if we want to be a party of the twenty first century we have to look realize that it's broken on our

side of the ledger to one of instance we discussed or to nothing earlier there is a possible you could some day. being considered on the national ticket is that awesome. that would be awesome but i'm not thinking about that and there's a mayor sometimes or a dead end and not many mayors become president of windows and it is a someone reminded me that the mare's of l.a. new york and chicago of almost never gonna run anywhere for you to be governor of ghana where the then they call the mayor yeah but you know what i heard that you can go from speaker to mare jesse unruh tied it was unsuccessful against mary bradley look i don't i don't put obstacles before me i'm not focused on anything right now any public office right now i do want to spend time as i said thinking about what that radical middle is thinking about the path ahead how we restore that california dream how we really move forward as

a state because california is unique i mean this is a great city there's no question about it come on but but there's a reason why so many people come to l.a. to school everyday that is the weather who would leave banks where thank you thank you larry mayor antonio via of those great thank them for being our guest on politicking. you know each week on politicking we show you a part of washington you may not know this one thing for sure in washington it's not the best dressed town in the world but both democrats and republicans liberals and conservatives have to be up with the times and so when they go they go to georgetown and they go to a special place which. i welcome to ever and i and. i mean we have are our this is jennifer night guard my corn and we love dressing like. me have clients in both

houses both congress is both senates. something as been served with this if you're a g.o.p. then you will fit in and so will your colleagues because it's a little bit more classic if you are from the other side which is the democrat a bit of a spread of color and i find that the democrats tend to gravitate to our colorful. and so our presidents we welcome any of them are centrists we have loved all the administration since we've been here as through our current president i think is going to great job with his dress great ties. we're seeing red ties and then he's got into sties popping in and things like that that we like that because that really is more of our rights if you go to italy see a lot of your and you're out there wearing this look this has

a rubber soul for comfort just a little bit of the blue and of course the colored race that's what everybody wants these days in the pop of color just to make the outfit stand out a little bit since we are in washington a little americana we have coupling the elephant for those in the g.o.p. crowd we often have the other stuff as well and for the fourth of july it's just. after a little bit american slang like a little accent doesn't hurt. i would suggest this for larry king because it is an artist all by himself and i've known him since i was a bloomingdale's in one thousand nine hundred seventy six and i love him dearly because it is the whimsical is i added a conflict with a crown on that list. and this is someone who is very confident about who they are . thank you again thank you for being in our shop and we've been here sixteen years and we've learned just.

a many thanks to m.r. odds clothing of georgetown in washington but them suspenders how about the shirts how about this time how about the look on my something. that's it for today's edition of politicking let me know what you thought of what the mayor had to say what you thought of my outfit and tweet me follow me and king's things a c.n.n. . exactly what happened that day i don't know but a woman got killed. piers later is when i got arrested for. for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. innocent people to confess the police officers don't beat people

anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is lightman know because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse and they were off taking they could get what they wanted they can say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. let me let me i want to know what all let me ask you a question from. here on this network is what we're having a debate we have our knives out for. the group is

this right it's about staying there to get here in a situation where being i don't agree to talk about the surveillance me. download the official. to yourself choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorites from alzheimer's if you're away from your television or it just doesn't matter now with your mobile device you can watch on t.v. anytime anywhere. to live on one hundred thirty three bucks a month for food i should try it because if you know how fabulous. skinny i mean. i know it as i'm sitting.