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many years later a four year old girl is arrested he confesses to the murder of viola manning and traces of his d.n.a. confirm the fact. frank stirling is released on the twenty eighth of april two thousand and ten off to serving nineteen years now age fifty four frank has become frail and anxious and finds it hard to talk about his feelings. april twenty eighth two thousand and ten the day i get released. freedom. for frank sterling obtained his freedom largely due to the vigorous efforts of his lawyer. under the war with the question remains why did he have a confessed to a crime he never committed. and the people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in a court of interrogation because there's been
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a sad light moment no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse. in the case of frankston only his confession was filmed but the video speaks for itself. the two policemen had applied the reed method as well as some of their own making. they often coffee and donuts to prepare frank sterling for his final declaration of guilt. but what had gone on before. i remember the. shoulders. trying to be all buddy buddy and we're here for.
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a. lecture and all that. you're not listening to me. over and over and it's like ok i'll give you what you want well they had this weird interrogation technique in your case that i've never seen before since where they are rubbing his feed and rubbing his back and having him lie on the floor put his feet up on the chair and whispering in his ear you know picture yourself out of the crime scene now picture the victim here she comes what do you do you know all this kind of really hypnotic kind of suggestion. the video the confession is just the acceptable face of what happened during the interrogation. to help frank admit to the crime he didn't commit one of the offices is rubbing his shoulder as the other is holding his hand. if you. were does you can't.
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you're going to speak up. sort of like you're floating he said on the chair but you're going on as if you feel like you're sitting at a chair no weight any shoulders. no stars no way. to look at a body. why does someone consists of a crime that he didn't do. you know has been so tired you know really like four hours sleep you know for three days and like. i just try to go on or sleep you know.
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yes i was very. prejudiced your mind also didn't go for it they. did something happen with them. yesterday. one of. the ratio yes even when you're learning. something. anything religion is difficult for. the regime leaders emerge from. eric. yet. this form of questioning shows how an
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innocent man can be made to confess with no recourse whatsoever to violence psychology has thus become a powerful weapon in the hands of the police and frank was one of its deliberate victims. to prevent any possible excesses has given rise to a new kind of specialist the lawyer expert. it's even inspired hollywood and its popular series lie to me. in a friendly smile the psychologist helps result crimes by observing body language and facial expressions it may be human nature for the truth is written for all of us. stand walters has been a lie expert for the past twenty five years. like to say i'm taking a little trip inside the swamp of their brain. in a morning around
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a swamp and i'm fighting a rotten stuff and trying to drag it out for the people. who will to crisscrosses the united states to spread the basics of good interrogation techniques to the police. his unique methods upset many of the theories online including those of his pia's. here in texas they did a study on interrogation training and they tested years officers ability to spot deception he says to training courses and they brought him back and test him again what he found one hundred ninety officers now better than improve after two courses he looked at the content the courses and found those courses were perpetuating the myths stem malta's campaigns against preconceptions and received ideas. very little body language has anything to with the steps in crossing arms what else
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. could it what is is a hand up in hazing the other was the legs sitting on hands wrapping feet around a chair holding on a cross in a hose on the chair no correlation deception no one can possibly stress but there is no difference whatsoever and when i contact liars make it a truth tellers and no connection. and now the myth of the myth of i move a little left you can right and i'm swimming against the tide and i get academies and hate me for this and kids my. kids are doing a disservice teaching again and again and again trained officers who thought they were great at spotting a lie before and worse in civilian population and had no training in deception which tells you what about training. to general. when
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a bag of his method is together a bundle of clues based on behavior and language which could indicate a suspect may be lying beyond any stress he may be feeling. as well known people such as bill clinton has seen lying to the entire nation when he claims he never had sexual relations with white house intern monica lewinsky. i never told anybody to live there wasn't so much as deception here with president clinton other then there were some symptoms it tows he would be totally open one he refers to monica lewinsky is that one that is a very typical depersonalization its way of separating oneself and being above or outside the realm or better than that the other one is his emotion and using his appearance payslips person is the hostility of anger in a split second when he turns to walk away watch with a smile and not a single. these allegations are false and i need to go back to work.
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switch from anger to smile another is courtney love suspected of being a drug addict now ron nothing to do and that will know how my god i'm going to ask a lot of questions that people think now my parents that out and out with courtney love you see shock when she's asked about their own question was a good stress marker to see her version of body away get multiple answers if she has a good strong cause to be avers was consistent was only being deceptive that she would later we know that she has had a long history of drug abuse for. you on nothing now so the first question is very general you know nothing today no and in barbara they ask. a more pointed question now you see you react no more heroin and you nobody jump wrong nothing today no. zero jesuit efface explosion
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the large eyes from a shock response of the question this when stones are so it's as if i were the interviewer that means i would follow up on here on questions that's a simple me of of incriminating potential my god i'm going to ask you all the questions that people think now my hair on that and watch your body back. in away from barbara and multiple no answers. a notice we haven't really answered their own question you're back to prozac and should ask you very pointedly have you ever done drugs in front of your children and watch the huge reaction again an apparent cluster behaviors of deception evident that it's a fan of like god let us out to make sure that i'm not looking for meth again by languages as got a large margin of error so i'm looking in groupings and looking for it to be
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consistent so if i'm there when issue comes up to keep getting these powerful responses and i keep getting similar cluster behaviors of that damage stress or cause to behavior that we think are it and for some point consistent deception. on stem alters criticizes the most is the obsession the police have with obtaining a confession at the cost of the investigation this is what happened in the little town of camden in arkansas in early august two thousand and six when the body of eleven year old katie was found in the small dose. she had been suffocated using a plastic bag. after a botched investigation detectives determined the murder had to have been inside the house. in fact only katie's mother melody and twelve year old brother thomas were inside. when the police arrived to millet he was hysterical while thomas
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seemed quite calm. cool when thomas's moya believes the police became fixated with his behavior which they judged as to come and convince them that thomas had killed his sister. i would rather ask questions for people in positions of power instead of speaking
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on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on r.g.p. question more. books . right from the sea split among the first responders and i think what you're seeing. on our reporters' twitter and. on instagram. posts. to me in the next segment on la. well all told you my language a whole but i will only react to situations i haven't read the reports so i'm like you know for instance the no i will leave that to the state department to comment on your latter point of the month to say it's six am a car is on the docket nails
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on a. radio no more weasel words when you think you know a direct question and be prepared for a chase when you throw a punch be ready for a battle freedom of speech means little down the freedom to cross. syria and reversed momentum rebels are now killing one another in alienating the people they claim they're fighting for the assad regime has regained lost ground and is on the offensive in the meantime western powers are showing reluctance to provide arms to the rebels or is it now time to consider a process to stop the violence and talk peace. the first thing that went wrong is that as soon as the police got to the house they decided thomas had committed this crime that was their first error and then everything they did after that
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just compounded the error. thomas was twelve years old at the time today he is nineteen. and the police pressure he confessed to everything and was sent to prison . the supreme court would overturn the sentence two years later after the details of his interrogation were revealed. the video recording of the interview was appalling. the pictures caused the worst police gondola in the history of the state of arkansas. is there a place. some of the story. like it is. where you were. in the army nobody broke in. there's no indication of
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a break here. so your sister dad. and there was only two people in russia could kill. here. that's the only way i can be book right oh i live you understand it ok the tone is set right from the start the police never question thomas about his movements all the facts but are relentless convinced of his guilt the basic era which should never happen during questioning so i was scared then i was going to. didn't know what to do just there things were so fast and we just sat there for hours. not knowing what was going to happen. just i was lost it's no longer an interrogation but a never ending series of accusations. that would leave a man almost intelligent. well. rick.
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oh i don't know. i didn't want to know. why did. i want it if your mother didn't leave i don't care. you know you did. well in ash why do you. think. you can do i didn't you. i did it i feel well. thomas will deny killing his sister thirty six times.
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do you. they told me my mom and i had complete trust my mother to protect me my sister had all. so done it and the only way it could happen is if i had done it so i thought the police would tell me the truth so i just. don't remember doing it. so confused can't take the pressure and want the police to use the smallest details of the boy's life to further incriminate him hereof probable record years. keisha. my medication. what do you tell if you know. did you. really gate
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but i really think that you are going to feel yourself. and to help yourself you're going to hear it is. hard. like. most kids would have confessed to this crime a lot saner it's it's absolutely amazing that he was able to withstand their. badgering of him as long as he didn't. the constant harassment has a name the police call it quote cooking over a small fire the officers leave the room and leave thomas to stew on his own there's no need for physical precious the suspects imagination runs wild as to what
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would happen if he doesn't confess the tactic works inside the mind of the twelve year old kid. who was shaken nerves sweat and cry and. this is an emotional breakdown. confused by the accusations thomas begins to break down. while there i thought maybe i'm a black girl. because the cops find the cops could lie me. nobody. oh.
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well. after more than one house cross-examination the police have still been on able to make thomas confess so they turn on his mother melody. she's bipolar and hasn't taken her medicines for six months but the police focus their questions on getting her to point the finger of blame at her writing son. when we. know he hollered and then he went after her and it strained her and then he went to get the avocado comic con out of here you know i don't want to write. i don't remember but i don't think. i did it.
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ya know. what if they didn't notice it was gone but as soon as my mother. who's there to help me but she betrayed me very much for of. just spring was threw me to the cops and said he did it. they're going their own. ways yet only a car company is american the only way to peer. pressure. this is mother condemns him thomas is interrogation continues this time off camera half for a while thomas finally says i'm hungry i haven't had anything to eat all day and then they turn off the tape and they take him in the other room for the next three and a half hours they interrogated thomas just like they had been doing on tape but
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now they were off they could do what they wanted they could say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. turning into a girl and he's all talk to me tell me that it was only me who could have that if i do not confess before he left he was going to give me the death penalty. so he left and i got scared i called him back in there and by then i realized no way i was going to leave without telling them i did it. to tell me if i just told them the truth or what they wanted to hear i could go home so i gave him a story. and they said that enough so they added beats bits and pieces for me to add in my story to look fit what they wanted it to. and that's when i took him back on camera. off an hour later he's like an automaton that repeats everything the police have told him to confess.
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so i. turn off the t.v. . flying off. next morning. he.
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shot. or essentially the national chief of police contacted me and asked me to contact thomas regarding his interview and they want to use it as an example of how not to interview a child and i think that's very telling. now after his admission the police leave thomas on his own to confront his mother. he whispers in her ear that he didn't kill his sister before declaring his guilt out loud.
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yes. then he consults her. to this day the investigation into the murder of young katie remains unresolved. the reason the questioning of thomas went so badly is that the police are still focusing on confessions rather than evidence. of the three hundred one prisoners on death row or serving life sentences in the united states that were later proved innocent about ninety had made false confessions during interrogations that had been wrongly conducted.
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i've seen the perception of the cross many times it doesn't matter if there's snow a heat wave or hail stones from people keep on going i don't expect anything and just what i told myself i keep on going as long as my heart told me to that's all i want to at the moment. i have sense so. i'm carrying these sayings on my shoulder.
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do you want me to put a bandage here no that's fine a lot of people were so exhausted they could barely walk their feet hurt and some of them fainted we will bring you back to it three two wanted to keep going i don't know. tomorrow we'll bring.
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choose your language. with. the consensus. to the opinions that invigorating to. choose the stories get in. to to access. he is he. he.
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told me. the luck. of. that speech. the way the a. little bit slow. the leg. a little.
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