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well breaking news this hour here on art see the russian lawyer assisting our snowden arrives at a moscow airport the whistleblower has been stuck in and reports temporary paperwork has been issued to finally allow him to leave the transit zone. coddling militants holed around two hundred kurdish civilians hostage in northeastern syria we try to gauge a man he faces on the country's opposition. and across the border in iraq al qaida is pushing the situation out of control with a group carrying out for isn't breaks and fresh terrorist attacks and what's been the bloodiest month in the country this year.
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and it's five pm and their russian capital i'm a moreno joshie and he is with me here in the studio you're watching r.t. and we start with our breaking news story that we are discussing here today washington's most wanted man edward snowden is reportedly about to receive permission to set food on russian soil as a crucial paperwork has been issued to allow him to leave the transit zone of moscow's sheremetyevo airport while we now get the very latest from our correspondent lindsey france who is outside of the airport so lindsay what is the latest on snowden is he about to come out anytime soon. well everything is pointing to that at this point we just saw one of his very close
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advisers and it's wholly. walking through the journalists and security with a brown paper bag now it's reported according to our sources that some fresh clothes and perhaps those very important documents from the federal. services that would then free edward snowden from the airport and allow him to move about freely within the russian federation might be in that bag that he may have been delivering those just now to edward snowden now as we have been reported before today just an hour ago police began very heavily guarding a certain door on the first floor of sheremetyevo airport here at terminal the area was then sectioned off very quickly and the press was was kept back and then his his advice snowden's advisor showed up with that brown bag it was reported that the documents were approved meaning is that it's essentially formalizing the fact that the fed immigration service is considering his temporary asylum bid now he's
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got to wait about three months for that to happen and then after that a decision is reached it's reported by snow his advisors again that he does plan to seek work and a new possible life here in russia now just inside the terminal to give us a closer look at what is actually taking place there and now we've got our tease tom barton now bear with us everybody the connection there is very shaky there's a lot of bad with being used up in that room right now now tom back to give us a look at what's going on with you right now. to find the lindsay yet here inside to the next to the transit area we suspect inside sure and next to the airport the journalists rule counted and they all swapped around on the told to children as he arrived earlier she passed straight through the crowd of journalists and into that closed door which is guarded by police suspect to be carrying pop's fresh clothes for edward snowden and perhaps also the documents in the federal migration service
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could have allow him temporary access suit russian soil just trying to do a little view of the the crowd here at the moment the press pack. apology the. the cat. is a bit shady. it's really big break and. all those things gathered here to tim's perhaps anatoly could serenity comes out to a press conference or perhaps even snowden the man himself. thanks tom now it's also important to note that katrina did it's also important to no doubt to note as well that i did mention to us that if the decision is unfavorable in this case if after three months for instance a federal migration service decides to deny his temporary asylum that decision will be appealed that edward snowden is very serious and in fact about establishing
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a new life here in the russian federation so as tom said with those fresh clothes and those fresh documents this may just be those taking those first steps all right lindsay thank you so much for bringing us the subway from outside the airport and tom barton of course from the inside and showing us some you know some parts of the airport and the media attention that we've seen there so far is huge while as the suspense is building out there i have in the studio now ivor crowded with whom we can discuss this further while we are waiting of course snowden can come out of the airport in a minute or maybe later we don't know that yet but as we would see both of you i mean some of the shaking shots that we saw from tom barnes showing us journalists are there everybody is there everyone is waiting for someone to come out so what is your take as to what's you know in a for him next what's going to be happening look i think the points worth making right now i think we're very focused on the human story of edward snowden and his own personal faith which is
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a very interesting and dramatic and very dramatic story i think it's something that anybody who has an interest in politics and the extent to which our lives are transparent government. is going to take a very very great interest to put for him right now i think he's probably going to have to take a little while to gather his own thoughts i think when he steps outside personally i wouldn't blame of the guys as well i wouldn't mind taking a walk around the park for a while and getting out of the airports and really don't want to talk about politics and politics don't want to get in. in this but i think the fact is that he's wanted by the u.s. under the he's been charged with espionage under the nine hundred seventy nine act it's a very serious charge. and he will probably attempt to settle down and perhaps focus on building a legal defense or he might say well you know what. i'm going to just try to build something here in russia for a while we've we've mentioned this before marina ok we're no one's quite sure how long snowden wants to stay in russia and he certainly doesn't want to give the
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impression that he's kind of wiping his feet on moscow and trying to get through to a lot an american asylum which is which has been offered him too although if the russian asylum comes through i think it's very likely that the government's doing well certainly it's been a very dramatic month for edward snowden i mean just making the revelations that he has made it takes some courage and you know obviously he must realize the consequences or maybe not at the time you know just to speak against. this united states is. well you know at this point we know that what's happening is that until the katrina is going to be his lawyer obviously representing the legal side for him so how did this i mean let's talk. and explain to our summer viewers maybe how this all happened and how did the figure of katrina come up and why is he represented well. to be honest we don't we don't have a lot of clarity about how. snowden came to bringing on italy culturally
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into into the fray if you look crucially i think the key step that he took was the meeting that he arranged with human rights activists and lawyers if i'm not mistaken about ten days ago in. the human rights activists in my opinion probably consulted him on where he stands internationally in terms of human rights law and what what kind of protection whistleblower can enjoy under international law how he can be protected in my opinion. snowden. i reached out to some local lawmakers and some local officials and he was probably very well consulted in that respect. certainly led to snowden's p.r. line in russia and has been the only contact that any media have had with messages coming from the from the snowden camp there's no discussion we could extend well that meeting that took place at the airport was human rights representatives representative of the groups representing human rights. did snowden actually
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achieve what he was aiming to achieve and what is it in your opinion that he wanted to get by organizing this gathering. i think he probably achieved it yes i think that's a good question and good point i think in that he brought himself some form of international protection through agencies like human rights watch and listening very carefully to what they had to say if you remember correctly human rights well you have briefed the press after the meeting. but i think his. move to bring in it was probably very shrewd and i think that ensured. to some extent. it certainly suggested that the kremlin was willing to listen to his appeal for asylum ok well what's interesting about this story i mean from whatever angle you look at it from there are so many questions that you want to have answer and the fact is that edward snowden has stayed at the airport for such a long time and because i mean he did receive invitations from different countries
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but again there were some technical problems and nobody really want to hear or was under pressure to say that they couldn't. think i think we've got to go back to the morale of the plane incident. i think that was absolutely key it was quite an extraordinary moment in the history in european history the history in europe and latin america and that's a very clear message that the u.s. was ready to have any plane at all grounded the suspicion that snowden would be on the plane now what was something that a question that we haven't seen asked quite a lot. too is who made the call in washington or in moscow to tell washington snowden was on the plane because there's no way obama wanted to risk a p.r. debacle like we had just absolutely you know he's on the back to the american consulate enormous absolutely enormous really a shockwave around the world you know. people suddenly reassess obama's stance on
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human rights obama's a lawyer himself in a very principled man and i think i think the. administration. with you absolutely but it also in my opinion sent a very clear message to snowden that if you get on a plane and we do have these here there are months where they where the press box we're getting on planes to get. a week later i mean these are the things that triggered this is on request in russia you know saying that you know he would like to stay here at least temporarily well however i'd like to now turn to tom barton who is at the airport and he's got the very very very latest for us there and he's inside the airport let's now try and see if we can talk to us and maybe bring us up to date as what's happening there do we have tom. tom hi there well tell us what's happening where you are at the moment you showed us some shots around you those are very. big but
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your heart i mean i'm not sure if you could picture like all the trees. down. great but i'm just trying to find the. weight. on the job or perhaps even. while i have to apologize for the quality of sound from tom bard that we are getting but what he was saying that i mean there are a lot of people there at the moment as we can see i'm sure there is there are a lot of people there everyone's waiting suspense is joining us well right now on the screens we we can see. where the then yes well ivory no before we switched to tom we were discussing you know what's next for edward snowden who should be still at the airport hopefully and specifically his you know
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sort of russian state you know that's about to start once he comes out of the airport so talk us through how this happened and how he made his decision and what obviously led up to this we were talking about this but. let's let's not forget the everybody knows the name of course it's not as a whistleblower he's a very special category of human being there's a very big they take a very very brave step to raise flags about institutions of which they are a part of one upon which they depend for their income for their livelihoods so there's a great deal of i think psychological isolation involved in any decision to blow whistles and i think snowden's. being a very intelligent guy and i think it's something that he probably may have read up on before even taking the step to expose extraordinary web of surveillance of
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course what we know is global social media. so i think snowden probably really probably feeling good probably feeling a little bit isolated i think right now. he's looking at a light at the end of the toluene that he can get out of what you know rather he is looking at the lights of the end of the tele figured he was speaking of course i'm just getting some latest information there that he has submitted documents at an immigration checkpoint at this stage so there is something happening as we speak we cannot see right now for obvious reasons but that means he'll finally be able to leave the transit zone of moscow's sheremetyevo airport where he's believed to have been staying for more than a month now ever since arriving from hong kong well the lawyer that assist snowden in this plea has arrived at the airport in the west what we've seen the pictures of him we know he's there now whistleblowers formal asylum request could still take up to three months to process well he then gets. the asylum for a year and will be able to renew his state annually well the thing as something is
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happening at the moment there are some action going on that's good and edward snowden my be able to leave the airport any time soon our correspondents are there waiting for him while that is happening let's now continue to talk about his fate and the options that are for him on the table what do you think will be happening once he steps out of the airport that's that's a tough question to answer right now i think i think we've listened to. over the last week or so who has been the face of of the snowden camp at least in russia. he has briefed the press to the fact that he would certainly be making a statement to the press after his meeting with snowden which i guess is taking place internally we're not sure whether snowden's going to going to attend personally i doubt it. very much. probably a little bit. and. i think he's walking on eggshells legally internationally i think he would be very very careful to try and start with well while snowden was in
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the airport and in limbo as we were saying before i mean his case attracted shoojit a national attention immediate attention as well let's not focus on the u.s. and russia relationship and how they were affected by snowden's visit and his revelations well i think this story i have to interrupt here because i'm hearing that would you know it talk to our correspondent in z. francis outside of the airport and she might tell us what's happening there at the moment. either lindsey so i do update us what's going on where you are now. what. it's been a long wait it's been a very long day waiting for edward snowden to make an appearance and just as the skies open up and people are going home for work that's when the action really starts his advisor made his way through the crowd. just a couple of minutes ago actually up to twenty minutes ago with a brown bag it's reported that some fresh clothes and some fresh documents being in
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that he will the documents mean he will be able to actually leave the airport finally and actually walk around in russia and in moscow and possibly call this new place his home now and he has been here for over a month and it was reported that he didn't think it was safe to fly to any of the other countries that had offered him an offer to asylum out of fear that the u.s. would ground those flights and that is when he turned to the russian federation and the federal migration services to consider his temporary asylum bid the police began making their presence known in a very very heavy way about an hour and a half ago blocking a certain door on the first floor of the terminal here at the airport i just went up. to the capsule hotel in terminal earlier today to. sniff something out find out what i could and i was turned away from that location this store happens to be exactly five floors below that hotel so it appears as if the journalists are
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waiting with bated breath as security keeps them away from the door and that edward snowden will come out and finally make his appearance possibly give us a statement if not at least his advisor anatoly. who who brought in that bag with reported fresh clothes and fresh documents will at least say something of what the plan is at this point but one thing is for sure that over the next three months he plans to possibly look for work and to hopefully make russia his home now it's also important to note that his advisors have said that whether or not at the end of those three months the decision is favorable or or not whether or not he is allowed temporary asylum for the next year or not. there is are plans in place if he is allowed to stay here for the next year he will look for work and look to settle here and if not that decision will be appealed and not just points
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has serious he actually is in this case so again we are here all waiting and watching that door very closely and we'll of course be tweeting and bringing you the latest when the next big thing happens all right lizzie thank you so much our fingers are firmly on the polls as you say we are watching that door very very close friends there outside of the airport and earlier tom bard who's inside of the airport while we of course so we'll continue to talk about this after a short break here on our to distinguish us. nobody chooses to be homeless nobody chooses to be an s.r.o. . is it was for the show to. get in the six pm get out six beat six. they were in. school. to me the class people.
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were against the war. it's hard to think of down. to that. and to know that many may not have only been the last choose to should never be but they're also due to foreclosures that never should have. welcome back you're watching r t coming to you live from moscow july is not over yet but it's already become the deadliest month in iraq this year of the country's
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north has just suffered a brutal gun attack that claimed the lives of at least nine policeman cities and towns all across iraq are being devastated by similar attacks by al qaida insurgents on an almost daily basis what the lay on sunday is a terrorist group used a different tactic by elaine siege to to keep prisons and freeing up to have thousand and mates including al qaida followers more than fifty people were killed during those brazen for isn't. it's by adding this number to the soaring casualty figures casualty figures coming from various parts of iraq since saturday we had to shocking death toll of one hundred eighty seven in four days alone this brings us to the latest estimates which sadly show july's already seen more than seven hundred twenty civilians die in a bloody turmoil well let's discuss what's been happening in iraq with middle east blogger karl who's joining us live from london carl thank you so much for joining
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us here in r t well as we can see the prison cells had all the hallmarks of a thoroughly planned armed operation so in your opinion what does that say about the strength of al qaeda in iraq. i think this is an indication of the resurgence of al qaida and jihadi groups in general in the levant and you cannot this from whatever is happening in syria but also it points to the fragility of the order the americans left in place the political order in iraq in order for them to withdraw and kind of a responsibility from the afters of their occupation and what we were being told for years is that the iraq finally has a stable political order and the sunni tribes were recruited into this fight to contain those you how do you threaten al qaida but unfortunately what we're seeing now against the backdrop of a wider regional conflict and sectarian growing sectarian tensions is the resurgence of those groups. affiliated groups and then exploiting the grievances
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within iraq a community to start recruiting again and to start to stabilize iraq because what they're ultimately interested in is not any stable political order but kind of a challenge to the government central government in iraq well the question they're actually on the surface here is how effective is the the security forces in the contrie i mean if they fail to protect those prisons from insurgent attacks and how can protect how can they protect civilians. well this is precisely the question that needs to be asked again let's go back and look at the backdrop of them american with the role was sold on the back of there is a government now that can maintain security that it has been trained by the americans but we're seeing now is they're being completely exposed i mean they cannot protect their own facilities and obviously there are these threat isn't an easy threat to contain but again it speaks of the weakness of the iraqi government
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but the weakness isn't only a security weakness really weakness there is not having a broad political consensus on the direction that iraq needs to move forward into because you can't have security solutions in isolation from genuine political party participation and political. solution that satisfy all the major forces in iraq but again without any notation as a sort of call for interrupting you how can a political consensus be achieved. well i think. the solution that we arrived centralize too much of the power in the hands of prime minister nouri al maliki and we have seen a sequence of political events and persecution of other open and so over the past few months and from the last year onwards which is kind of reviving this sense of grievance and again i say you can dissociate that from wherever it has been happening in syria so there is this bigger backdrop to it and i think the people
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that you heard these are exploiting those sense of grievance they're saying sudanese don't have any real political representation and anyway we're not interested in that particular order so i think the counter to this are. nuri al maliki and other political forces in iraq need to go back to bases and say we need to have a legitimate kind of conciliation a sense of bringing everyone into power to cut off their oath to this you had these and then you would have the popular support to implement the security solution but unfortunately we have a pretense of the moment it's not it's very. very fragile and we've seen that in the attack on the prisons yesterday all right carl charles thank you so much for sharing your views with us here on our middle east blogger karl charo tell us about the situation and iraq. right now we can go back to our breaking news story and we will be giving you more updates from the airport shortly where our correspondents are closely monitoring the situation and waiting for the u.s.
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whistleblower to come out of what we have in the city ivor crotty who is always ready to give us his input on this iteration of twitter as our one hour because you know all eyes are on the social media right now and always sources the wires to get the very latest as what's happening because i mean we're all on the edge here and the suspense is building up of course well before we cross to our correspondent in france who is outside of the airport and tom barton who is inside we talked about russia u.s. relationship and how the snowden's revelations sort of affected that snowden's case let's now focus on that a little more yeah ok it's it's pretty clear that. snowden's rather than most of it was not something the kremlin particularly welcomed. and not something that they particularly wish to have to deal with quite obviously. very very clear from very early on that they very much like to see him pass through as smoothly as possible and not really have to deal with deal with the potential bilateral implications of
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snowden taking up some form of residence and i think the the the message has over the snowden's position has changed and it seems to have been very much by the book stance that the that the kremlin has taken. snowden out of it looks like he's at least gone from stateless to some form of document of identity. and i think. well i mean let's remind our viewers here because the condition that put in said snowden can't. stay in the countries that you can stay here as long as he doesn't harm our relations as long as you know that. he cannot stay if you continue to haunt on american part that's right and remember during that gather the news conference with human rights activists he did actually say that he's ready to fulfill that you know actually yes that this is what we will do this is what we understood this is like there's so much intrigue in just about every aspect of this you glenn greenwald for example has. the famous the reporter said that snowden had
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no more information to divulge let's wait and see absolutely oliver for now thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this with us here on our tour we're monitoring the situation where the correspondent outside of the airport and inside and we will continue to talk about this later in the program so do stay with us again. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. download the official location to your cell phone choose your language stream
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