almost two years since the toppling of his father the son of moammar gadhafi still awaiting trial with libya refusing to hand him over to the international criminal court i mean fears that he's facing a death sentence at home. private companies in the u.k. are accused of hiring rogue detectives to steal their clients' private data that ng to the blanket surveillance concerns unleashed by recent snooping around. doing called good alcoholics just tends to make them more alcoholic going to affect them and improve the overall condition as greece struggles to cure its ailing economy with a bailout cash we try to find out whether billions of euros have been of any help.

thanks for tuning in this hour you're watching our team with me lucy catherine of all onto our top story nearly two years after moammar gadhafi was overthrown and killed in libya his son saif al islam is yet to stand trial for alleged war crimes committed during the twentieth of an uprising now he is set for a hearing in libya in august but international criminal court judges fear that he won't receive a fair trial there libya is meanwhile defying an i.c.c. ruling by refusing to hand him over to the hague and on a trial at home well let's examine the man and his story so you follow islam was educated in london he was seen as a crucial figure in building relations between libya and the west but in early two thousand and eleven revolt the uprising kicks off with the rebels eventually winning nato support now amid allegations that he and his family committed crimes against humanity arrest warrants were issued just a few months later the libyan leader moammar gadhafi was killed by the rebels and

we all remember this brutal footage the chief i.c.c. prosecutor had confirmed informal talks about the. there of the gadhafi he was eventually captured by a rebel group and apparently had parts of this fingers amputated now libyan authorities had wanted a trial in tripoli but the i.c.c. meanwhile demanded that he be handed over to the hague a request which was rejected now four delegates from the court were detained in libya for a month after attempting to get his documents that office son has made two appearances in a libyan court and the i.c.c. again rejected libya's efforts to hold the trial by themselves for the latest on the situation are to use policy. although the international criminal court has ruled that libya must extradite safe islam to the hague so that he can face charges of crimes against humanity the libyans won't allow it they want to try him at home nick kaufman who is a former israeli lawyer hired by gadhafi as daughter aisha says he needs to be

handed to the i.c.c. on the basis of the u.n. security council decision the security council gave the international criminal court the mandate to investigate crimes are committed in libya after the revolution international criminal court carrying out the will and the wish of the international community investigated the matter and issued two warrants for arrests one for safe one for lucy now if the libyans wish to try these two people that is their right but they have to request. permission to do so from the international criminal court the libyan government has challenged the right of the international criminal court to try safe it argues that the hague based court has no jurisdiction because it only intervenes if the local justice system is not functioning and those ruling libya say that they justice system is operating well but professor who did warn and who is an expert on libya disagrees she says the country is in

a state of collapse. i am not sure that it will be right to assume that there is a government in libya today there is no army no police aren't militants are in control even if they give safe a trial the libyans always surprise us so i can't really see how the trial will go i'm not even sure if it will begin and how just an objective it will be the question needs to be asked why has safes trial not here begun he's been held captive since november two thousand and eleven and it's not even clear exactly where he's being held when the libyan rebels who are fighting against gadhafi they proclaimed loudly that he and his family should be equal to. it does seem as if one thing got into power they believe that the only ones they need to listen to them selves. tell of it now if the proceedings do continue in libya as a fall islam will likely be executed at that's according to his attorney john jones

spoke to my colleague. he's being held in appalling conditions certainly in terms of his mental state because so much confinement thing any period of time and for a few weeks about has been shown by scientific studies to be extremely damaging and he's been that condition for twenty months impossible for families to see him and even if they do see him it comes in many circumstances where you can speak freely the last time you visited by night you see delegation meeting this covertly recorded and so he knows he knows it's become a complaint anyone can visit about these conditions you can see in the main floor but his defense because it's being used against him is now being prosecuted in addition to the war crimes trials are being prosecuted for basically saying that he wanted to be tried in the hay and exercise his rights without a tro but if indeed saif al islam is actually tried back at home may not be what exactly what do you think he's facing. what he's facing in a show trial. entirely unfair trial

a trial in which he's not going to be able to get any defense witnesses to testify on his behalf because of the too terrified to test an expanded ability going to be executed because the penalties carry the death penalty and it's quite clear from pronounced inspired officials and if you know that they want to carry out the death penalty if it's imposed. after having forced through further austerity measures agrees it is ready to receive its next bailout installment into the government a lot of effort to please its creditors rhesus parliament approved the cuts after european partners threatened to pull out at the last minute well the bailout comes at the expense of thousands of public sector jobs rescue loan a four billion euros will come from the euro zone and european central banks now the i.m.f. is also expected to stump up a further one point eight billion now in order to get these loans will have to fire four thousand civil servants by the end of the year while twenty five thousand more must be redeployed now greece has been relying on public rescue funds for over

three years now but as financial expert patrick young explains it's done little to cure the country's financial woes. well unfortunately i've always argued that greece was never going to survive as long as it was in mode because the difficulty is that you know through involved at alcoholics just tends to make them more alcoholic and it doesn't affect them and improve their overall condition really what greece has always needed to do was to leave the euro and declare bankruptcy it's the only way that it can feasibly restructure what's going on instead what we have is this absolutely mainly arkell situation where in order to manage to stay in the euro we have a series of political forces in western europe who are desperate not to see their law you see political experiment fail and therefore greece has been left just like cyprus just like other countries that have received bailouts like ireland they've been sacrificed the altar of a ludicrous national political statement or supra national political statement

whether you're looking at germany or whether you're looking at the european union as a whole there are lots of things greece can do but ultimately in terms of dealing with the bail right they have a fundamental problem they've gone through seven years of switching recession and effectively all that we're seeing is people starving the poor are getting poorer and ultimately nothing working within the greek economy with greece in the grip of austerity thousands of homeless and unemployed greeks of sought refuge in drugs he says the so-called cocaine of the poor and cheap to buy are to talk to some of those pushed to the brink by the recession. used to be out of work now he's still unemployed but also on heroin is homeless and has aids he's already tiny chances of getting a job have vanished completely. alone that some start using because they are angry at life no work no money for the same reasons many decide to start selling drugs

but end up using the needle themselves. every day drugs rock the lives of new people with just one many thought they'd hit rock bottom it's very true he can find the. and as far as i'm concerned is the worse thing than. the latest hit on the greek drug market is making even the most experienced junkies shiver and with a price tag starting from just two year old produce is becoming increasingly widespread in the crisis hit me it's. from from a battery of cars. very dangerous because they can sleep she's a can either be smoked inhaled or injected together with heroin they are now among the key engines behind the spread of hiv infections there is a great. percentage.

of. more suze every day n.g.o.s go into the field to trying to stop the virus spreading so we're at a drug user spots in one of the poorest districts of athens were asked not to film outside in order not to frustrate anyone since it's morning now and apparently many users still haven't taken the first dose of the day but clear the procedure is quite simple these social workers collecting used syringes and distribute these alcohol wipes of fresh water and syringes for their users to inject just. we thought being on the street is as low as a drug addict can get we want to investigate this the greed government's radical approach to tackle what's seen as a scourge on society by forcing addicts off the streets and holding them along with prostitutes and illegal immigrants and special detention centers like this facility where up to five thousand people are believed to be kept hidden from the eyes of

the public one of these camps outside of athens to the amount of security here is a really impressive several lines of gates the wire and lots of security guards in fact one of them has already asked us to leave so we don't we have that much time to film not much time at all we had to stop filming since our local producer told us we were risking our documents and footage to be taken away i did manage to grab a couple of more shots from my phone looks familiar. despite fierce criticism from human rights organizations greek officials see the populations of these guantanamo. double and that this should be viewed as a model for the rest of europe you've got this kind of athens greece. as europe struggles to dig itself out of recession britain is now also in danger of losing some of its key assets scotland will have to decide on its independence from the u.k. next year and the country as far as the country's first minister told r.t.

it may be better off without london you can catch a full interview at nine thirty g.m.t. and. i think independence is about control of your finances control fewer resources in the case of oil and sort of nubile resources in scotland but also control of your revenue if you control your revenue and therefore control your spending and how to distribute that revenue among the population then you are a genuinely independent country with independence within the european union scotland would control one hundred percent all of its revenue base would decide how to spend its finances currently we have allowed control of less than ten percent of our revenue base in the scottish parliament there for ten percent is not independence one hundred percent even independence within europe is independence. it's not only government security agencies that have had their eyes on private data

if you're in the u.k. many businesses also have access to your personal info new revelations in the british press suggest that many companies hired private investigators to steal data the country is organized crime agency apparently knew about it but kept the material secret until now r.t. says our cellar has more. in another instance of unlawful gathering of private information it's been reported by the independent newspaper that banks of pharmaceutical companies the law firms and other private firms are on a secret list of clients and have hired private investigators or p.r. who break the law that these companies have not face any consequences or prosecution now the information of this a list had been passed on to a parliamentary committee by the serious organized crime agency or so so this materials find a secret to quote unquote a safeguard individual human rights as well as protect the financial viability of major organizations as it may have a negative impact on that these companies being publicly associated with

criminality so could also said that they refute any allegations that they had sat on this information they said that they submitted their findings to the home office of legal practices by two thousand and eight and they had called for government regulation of such practices having said that though there are three successive home secretaries with access to this information and it's been reported that they had failed to act on this now this is caused outrage among m.p.'s in particular who question first of all why this list is being kept secret and second of all why nothing has been donna to stop the practice some of the information that the p.r. had managed to get their hands on include mobile phone records bank statements and details of witnesses under police protection let's get more insight on this from professor charlie beckett thank you very much for joining us today so the biggest problem that you see in this issue what would be there are two main problems around transparency why. these companies have been part of

a criminal investigation if the reason is simply because it. seems to me rather dangerous precedent and then from the. the second raised concern would be that we've seen in the newspapers in germany who did publish investigation how big night and so there seems to be an inconsistency i think employees want to see a bit more dialogue shadowman all right thank you very much for that well as this is story unfold say the times have reported that the home affairs committee is now considers that considering publishing about lists of more than one hundred clients of these rogue investigators that it has obtained from a so-called reporting from london i'm tests are cilia. also ahead be a cold walking a tightrope between moscow and the e.u. deciding on whether to align itself with russia's regional trade bloc or to push

for integration that story is coming up after a short break to stay with us is. broken dreams in sobering reality says the u.s. gone from a country with a belief of ever greater prosperity and upward mobility to one where more and more get by on low wages and in jobs that will always be temporary so differently can employment now in the future be defined as mckown was a should be us economy. he means. you believe.

i'm going to. work. the counting is underway in mali after its presidential election the first since a cool last year saw separatists and jihad as groups take control of the north now if no outright winner is picked the election will go to a second round in two weeks time millions have turned out to cast their ballots but some were unable to find the right polling stations due to organizational problems historian gerald horn says that mali was simply not prepared the country is not ready at all for example to take the electoral role for example the list of the

words it's unclear what of the fact that there are so many refugees and internally displaced persons put it this way if i were in northern mali i would be hesitant to go to a polling station it was not so long ago that these militant so-called islamicist were actually ruling that part of the country we recall the devastation they could wreak havoc the reef in terms of beating women in the streets in terms of destroying valuable manuscripts stretching back centuries that basically reveal the intellectual firepower that then existed in that part of africa it seems to me that is election in many ways is going to be an uncertain in to an uncertain enterprise residents are hoping that elections might bring stability and assure and sure a fragile peace mali's future still remains in doubt r.t. is more of a notion that examines the origin of the crisis that had brought the nation close to civil war. here and then over the country the walls and billboards tell the story of the conflict when m.l.a.

took over this part of the country on every road sign they wrote welcome to free as i wired somewhere you can still read it then the mugello painted their symbols there is no god except our in arabic black letters in a white circle the modern flag appeared after the governmental forces together with the french army liberated this area the fragile peace is now being carefully protected checkpoints cover the region's main routes to filter all those passing through waterways are also patrolled. we have to verify whether there are jihadists among them who want to cross the river. how did decide who is who. jihadists don't have papers and we send to police all those with no documents. the stakes are high memories are still fresh in people's minds from the days when religious radicals took over the country's north spreading the extremist laws so your market if you come to the real like this do you had this bit your basic at

least sixty times if you are married they take you to your husband and make him buy and they throw you extremists would impose strict rules of modesty on these women without cross the niger river to go to college or the first to be let in mali is north to openly supports the islamists when they first came and provided them with fighters tried to find a family whose children joint. and al qaeda affiliated group appeared in mali's north last year and began coordinating with the rebellion of the indigenous african tribal to our regs who sought independence but they soon began infighting after rediculus started imposing sharia law why did they come here in the first place people in this area are very poor this is why we bring in some serve for women and some sweets for kids we visited the chief of the village for. just the one hundred fifteen year old man says one part of the village strongly supports al qaeda and al

qaida divisions are very close how they interpret qur'an to reach them we cross a dried river the soil in mali's north is far from fertile the land is not generous to people farming here this part of kaja village is very conservative so for a woman it's better to be covered so a couple of myself will get to a female part of the village in the first house we come across what looks like a women's club the ladies here differ from those swimming naked on the other side of the river you know from what we cover ourselves because this is our tradition our religious tradition we protect our whole bodies to talk with men we go to a male part of the village we see to the most influential of them to hear their story if they brought weapons and we didn't have a choice but to a big one man confesses his teenage son was inspired by outsiders before he was brought to mali in jail longer they behaved in

a dignified manner were never involved in looting they showed respect to the koran but also they had money that looks very attractive to poor people like us. if the government provides local people with jobs less vulnerable and more immune to the islamists we'd speeches or would you please explain who are these people and from where they come they're not from here but we don't know their nationalities we repeat the question to the mayor of gal one of the biggest cities in mali is north and the percent of deadly clashes during the crisis who are mugello. as they came from afghanistan algeria mauritania but they spent eleven months here and they recruited a lot of of course. this is the conflict now over. the conflict madame has started. but it's far from over. when i wave back a sense to him begins clouds of dust cover villages and cities peace in this region

seems to be as trendy and as blue skies on a sunny day you may think it will remain the way ts for some time but you can never be sure. from mali meanwhile logon to r.t. dot com to find out how america's n.s.a. spy scandal is continuing to unravel reports says that even the brothers little brothers canal spy on u.s. citizens accessing thousands of e-mails and phone calls. or you tube channel and other unrelated story even watch helpless police drawn out presidential corruption charges with tear gas and riot sticks for all that and more our team dot com. right to see. her story. and i would think that your. on our reporters would.

be in. the ukraine is trying to decide whether it wants to align itself with russia's regional trade bloc or to push for e.u. integration the former soviet state has close ties with moscow but is also eyeing greater cooperation with its western partners well let's bring in our katie pilbeam for more on the story katie break this down for us heidi so yeah that one at the moment got a big decision to make so how much so how do these figures work out the ukraine's economy hand if it's easier prey and free trade and i have the russian that customs union well as you can see. ukraine is right in the middle on the back just here so you can see it's torn between the two suiters if you like now according to the russian academy of sciences firstly all privileges the country currently enjoys would be lost by moving away from the

customs union which means ukraine would no longer be privy to a lower price on their energy or oil and gas bills from russia and have to pay the same price as the rest of the e.u. and hence no discounts at all exports would also take a huge hit by the be exposed to russia are estimated to decrease by up to two billion dollars annually but if you crane want to join the customs union exports to russia would be expected to increase by as much as ten billion dollars annually and then there's the issue of infrastructure not only would ukraine lose train deals and export contracts but the country would be expected to spend money in order to meet european standards for infrastructure whereas a customs union would not expect such an extensive investment program so while ukraine seems closer ties to europe it may be a friendship the country's economy won't be able to afford.

time for a world update and we begin in egypt the country's prime minister has been authorized to grant soldiers the right to arrest civilians it's fear this may be the first step towards defining a state of emergency in the country after more than seventy people were killed in clashes in cairo this comes as the military conducts a sweeping counter extremist mission in sinai where one soldier has died in an attack on an outpost. at least thirty seven people have been killed in a road accident in southern italy a coach carrying catholic pilgrims and their children plunged thirty viewers off a motor way fly over into the woods rescuers are still shifting through the wreckage and say that they expect to perhaps find more bodies it's not yet known what caused the accident in which up to ten other vehicles may have been involved. riding has had hit his capital over the weekend after the country's mommer demanded a wall that would see protesters prosecuted as terrorists hundreds have been

arrested and jailed since the beginning of the uprising authorities are still struggling to keep control in the face of more bass anti-government protests which are planned for the next month or. two explosions have struck at libya's eastern city have been gone as the suitcase bombs were detonated near buildings used by the judiciary causing widespread damage and injuring thirteen people the attack follows the escape of more than a thousand prison inmates on saturday night only around one hundred have been recaptured so far. i'll be back in about thirty minutes time cross talk with peter lavelle is up next stay with us.

i've got a big question for you how stupid can stupid terrorist paranoia get according to four progressives dot com the texas department of public safety demanded that any women entering the state senate hand over any tampons or pads before entering wow so why would they do this are they really that scared that some terrorists are playing to sneak a bomb into the place at any cost according to news at yahoo dot com the official reason is that they're afraid of people using projectiles as a form of protest against a law that would really restrict abortions oh well no i kind of see where you abortion is an issue that people really get furious over now it kind of all makes sense but what what's that they're afraid of projectiles but people with guns were allowed to take them into the senate are you kidding me i think the second amendment does a lot more good than harm by i think it goes without saying that for women to concealed carry their hygiene items they should need a permit or permission from anyone but that's just my opinion.

hello and welcome to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter lavelle broken dreams in sobering reality says the u.s. gone from a country with a belief of ever greater prosperity and a pretty mobility to one where more and more good. on low wages in jobs that will always be temporary so differently can employment now and in the future be defined as mcdonnell ization of the us economy. to cross-talk mcdonnell ization i'm joined by austin peterson in washington he is the c.e.o. of stone gate and editor of the libertarian republic dot com and in new york.