on larry king now giuliana and bill ransacked the proud parents take a baby break self-protection i'm sorry on the six season of their hit reality show and no one thought it would ever have real and said it was going to fail and i said no one wants to watch a show about a healthy loving marriage the couple gets first little i lost and i became hysterical and i felt like i was just falling falling in darkness or honestly if not like that plus when they had to deliver on now with the troops on the day says those of you who moved in chicago you were also saw you are not doing this is our conversation lately all next on larry king down.

while the larry king now in new york with bill read julianne is the anchor of the news and the co-host of fashion police also on e or celebrity coverage is later a celebrity in her own right and she's reporter from the red carpet of the remote vent in hollywood and bill is the co-host of america now with our old friend leeza gibbons and winner of the first season of the apprentice together they star in the style network reality show giuliana and bill now in its sixth season subduction i'm sorry giuliana and bill airs tuesdays they pm eastern we'll talk more about that reality show the minute i was the baby amazing yeah he said he just woke up from a two hour nap in name to do edward you would duke snider one of the great players in the history of baseball hopefully our son will follow in his footsteps. but he

was in suspenders the other day on the today show and honor of me it was i know you were able to picture the two of you together it was like having a child harder lead for a long journey we did we tried for a long time we went through numerous rounds of i.v.'s in vitro fertilisation which is no joke and a lot of shots a lot of doctors visits out of the. surgery and then we finally well we found out i found out i had breast cancer along the way. and so we ended up i couldn't get pregnant after that you know because of the medication that i ended up having to go on so. i did i had a double mastectomy and that was about a year and a half ago only year and a half ago i had that big surgery and so i'm on medication now and the doctor said listen even worse news you know you've got you're getting a lot of bad news but to add to it you can't keep trying to have a baby anymore i'm going to have to get a surrogate if you want to have a baby i do believe that well we we're working with a fertility clinic in denver colorado and we asked them for some recommendations

and it was kind of all the stars were aligned this woman was. qualified and she'd gone through all the testing and everything and she was going to be a surrogate for another family and that of the family got pregnant naturally so she was available and you know we were kind of in the midst of the breast cancer situation so it was literally perfect timing for those who feel that she changes two little boys and she wasn't looking to add to her own family but she's she's french she moved to america to be an au pair met an american guy fell in love and she said that she was something she always wanted to do since she was like a teenager eighteen nineteen when she when she was first you know someone told her about surrogacy and that you could do this she said well one day i want to do that once i had my own family i'd love to give someone that little french boy. when we were together the way we did media and we were there we were in the delivery room

and you watch the delivery it's our it's our d.n.a. it's our it's our embryo that was him that she was more just the vessel that's right he what happened was we had already banked embryos we had embryos were ready to go but because i want to medication he couldn't put them in it couldn't implant them in me so we. to use she says she's not technically a surrogate she's called a gestational carrier so she's the person they put your embryo and she carries it is it and then that said you know it's when we look back on the whole journey think we had trouble getting pregnant because in retrospect you know we're going through wondering why is this happening to us and you know why god why but had we not gone to all these different fertility clinics the last for two fertility clinic we went to they made it mandatory that giuliani get a mammogram all their patients and she was thirty six years old that i'm you know well below the age are supposed to get a mammogram and that was when they detected the breast cancer so in hindsight this little baby saved her life and the baby. yes i mean i know

it is he is and that was something we obviously discussed at length but what it is larry is that you know for so many seasons people have been watching our show through infertility through breast cancer and they've been praying for us they support us they tweet us you know one thousand times a day they e-mail us they facebook us you know and we get so much support from people that if to say now you know what you can see our baby and put a blanket over his head and not introduce him to that if you see what i mean and you know a lot of people do that i just put them in the babies and yeah hundred percent meaning anything just what it means meaning just what it means you know a lot of people when i throw the life raft to him. that's it the serve bread but what we do is you know we definitely put our marriage first i think that for duke that will ultimately benefit him the most to see us had to know that mommy and daddy love each other no george other and i'm going to be together makes him feel

safe you have a good foundation you so you live in two cities we go back and forth we did live in two cities and now we live mostly you know it or i should go. from there i have businesses that are in chicago and certainly. that keeps me going back and forth you know not my whole family's from there so. we make it work you know it's a great city it's a hardworking town and. you know i think that as good for good values good morals meet while i watch that first season of the apprentice i think a lot of people are very interested to see this show years ago ten years ago when we saw. on the air several was so interested to see this new show donald trump pat and i tuned in like millions did that first night and i'm not kidding the first time i saw him i remember the exact exactly where they sat him outside to do your interview and i told my friend i go oh my god that guy's amazing i don't something about that guy i love that you know i just i was love at first sight for me and so

when the opportunity and a news came to go interview bill ransack he was doing some work at the boys and girls club and they were going to hand the assignment out to some young reporter is a no no no i go i will i'm going to do this interview i could have a twenty five year old larry. how did i say i was twenty nine at the time anyway and i went and interviewed him and we were engaged eight months later and we kind of just fell in love right from the beginning you said. you didn't raise kids instead of the children you know i think one of the time. but you know i think i have a whole theory on how we're raising kids in america. kids are given so much and there are you know parents are always making excuses it's the teachers fault it's the coaches fault it's the you know it's the other kids fault in the classroom and by the time these kids are adults they have never had any had to take any accountability when raising a bunch of wimps and you know that's something that i don't want to do you know and

when my kid wants to get a car is going to get a job just like i had to do and like you had to do and i think we're really coddling these kids way too much you know they need to fall down and scrape their knee jerk with a good list this will never. do you need to do this right you have a business you know that they can you get. i did want to do it they queue they came to the head of eat at the time is that n.b.c. and i was the chairman i miss it ted harbor and he came to us he was the head of and he also ran style network and he said you know we showed a special on your wedding we cover some of your wedding and everyone loved it it did very well why don't the two of you do a reality show and the first thing was no way ted we're not we're not flipping tables over a will curse each other out we don't have drama in our lives and it goes well let's try something new they we could do something with like a positive couple of positive reality show and no one thought it would ever have ruined so it was going to fail and i said no one wants to watch a show about a healthy loving marriage it's just not going towards the drama we don't have

a lot of drama was the allure of watching a real conflict yeah but i think it's something that people want everyone who you know everyone who watches our show loves love and you know whether it's something that they see in their own relationships something that they aspire to have one day i think they see that and it's a show that's real if you watch this reality shows and you're almost embarrassed to watch me feel dirty at the end of the hour and with our show people feel very positive people come up to us and they go finally a reality show i can watch with my granddaughter is a reality show you like. i i like a lot of the reality shows on like national geographic you know discovery. you cope with t.v. personally i mean i like you know they're very nice chris jenner's great and bruce we know them but i mean that's not something i would necessarily t.v. it's not a point in doing for him for me it is the yeah i like that stuff that's the thing is i consider i can say positive our shows but i am a sucker for those other things so you know i watch the real housewives show i

watch because since he can watch it i don't mean to be nor. you know what i think that honestly larry i think it's such a personal decision even when we named our baby you know i remember people go to oh you know and it's like a what you know and it's such a personal decision and i think that like even blue ivy remember and beyond saying she's the name their kids who have it seems so odd and now you kind of use to it so i think it's always just northwest it's always strange at the beginning but they're not your typical couple you know i mean so at the end of the day i think the name north the first name north is actually cute what's it like to lose you have cancer . it's what you would expect it is but you know a million times worse and i just didn't expect it i honestly i don't remember bill you i did i told bill don't even come he was doing a charity mission in mexico i said don't fly home for my results because they're going to be negative and when i heard the words it i just i lost it i lost it i

became hysterical and i felt like i was just dropping through through like the earth just falling falling in darkness honestly felt like that and it was awful and it consumed me for a consumed to me night and day i mean i would be on the floor just pounding my fists and i would go to work and never missed a day of work over it except my surgery because work was a nice distraction i would go to work i'd put on the make up in the air and on and i would do it and the second i would get in my car i would be at a red light and just start hysterically crying and you dick. you know i kind of took the caregiver role seriously you know and i said are i've got a were a lot of snow you're going through this was. no no no no that was part of our of our plan though towards the end we said we're going to have something to look forward to but i try to take the emotion out of the decision making process because there were a lot of decisions that had to be made so you get a lumpectomy do you get a misstep the media get ready you know and we some will the whole team of people that we knew and tried to make the right decisions along the way and i think that

was you know hopefully helpful usually because maybe not so much you know maybe. you do would be aesthetic question of is he going to love me i took that off the table right away in sin is the you know well i said honey i don't care what you look like as i don't i said i need your own for the next fifty years and and that was it and i think it was a hope took a whole lot of weight off of her back i mean that was a pivotal moment in our decision making process and especially mine when i was deciding in deciding to get a double mastectomy is a huge decision for a woman and you have to be lying if i said i didn't think about the physical consequences so i did not write of course and so when bill said that that changed everything it changed everything i mean and he said it would such sincerity and you know he means it and and it's fine and you know it's you know you have bad scars i mean you're lucky you know that we're lucky these days because you know back in the

day when you when you look at old pictures of mastectomies there's mutilation i mean it looks just awful her endless rat very radical surgery they do pretty incredible things with reconstructive surgery these days and i was able to get my reconstructive surgery at the same time as the surgery as the mastectomy that was correct but i mean don't get me wrong it was still pretty bad and you've got drains and tubes every i mean it's hideous but now you know your and a half later i have my scars and things like that i don't look the exact same but but but but but when i look in the mirror. please. technology innovation all the latest developments from around russia we. covered. mission. couldn't take should be free.

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guy behind it all the ins and all that but not with the brains of the operation as that's for sure so we've got our pm a tell you know we're opening up r.p.m. steak and then we've got washington d.c. and los vegas coming so we're going i am we're partners and you know we're not you know sometimes these hollywood people they just put their name on things or they invest but we're actually partners and we're very very involved in it and good food is great food great for. us what we can open almost two years and were born in italy where i was born in naples italy would come here seven i was seven years old . do you not at all you don't know if you believe generational skipping gene absolutely her mom is a great chef my mom's the best my mom inspired the restaurant that's how we got into the restaurant business we wanted to open a little forty seater for my mom called mama depending on our show and she's beloved and people people watch the show to see mama dependent and she's a great great chef so it's skips right over me you do the fashion police and my

friend joan rivers i do keep a straight face i don't. i do it and if you ever watch the show you know it's funny joan will say this joke and it's just like a joke that's out of this world and then they cut to me or kelly was for it and were laughing and of course we're guilty by association because they laughing but we can't help it a lot of people say they to ned because for number one reason they love joan rivers the words the reason that even to hear what we're going to say but to his see are expressions of kelly got engaged. it was boyfriend is world fiance he's always on set every week nice this kid in the world nicest guy in the world because she has seizure she did it was one day i was in there i was not there melissa rivers was filling in for me and it was on set and you know what's amazing though is i remember kelly was telling me that you know as as. obviously the last. this one of a seizure is on a t.v. show in front of cameras not that we're alive but they were taping it that's

obviously a personal thing then to have it in front of all these people but the value was they had it on camera and they could show it to the doctors which wasn't asked stick so the doctors were able to see kind of what she was acting like before it happened how it happened so in a way that was a blessing in disguise but she's doing she's perfect she's perfect came along one for me apprentice when it first came to you what did you sign up for that you know is a friend of mine going to college with her mom was a talent agent chicago for kids and she got some random facts in this they were looking for entrepreneurs to compete in if you win you can become his right hand man so she called me up and she said i made an appointment on thursday to meet with these people and one thing led to another in a night with these people and they had two hundred fifteen thousand people apply for donald has told you that. and they narrowed it down to fifty and those that ever applied for any job at a. show this is the world star called me and said it's ok if you want even show us in right why was that i was the last one picked so i was the sixteenth contestant

chosen in that first season and i want to winning in. the playoffs so you all i wouldn't be sitting here today if it wasn't about i give all the glory to donald i mean if it wasn't for him i i would be married to my wife i mean he is you know you still work for him no no but i mean i'll do anything for him you know take a bullet for the guy you want the longest form of any of the i stayed with him for several years. was that you wore them for. you learn a lot you know i think you learn a lot just through osmosis and watching him negotiate deals in the way he treats people you know this better than anyone he has people that never leave you know he is people are very loyal and he's very loyal in return and that's what it's about but is it good is it giving to very. possibly. a good yeah but you know i think he understands that he's able to laugh at himself and you know he's a he's a guy's guy who had a cheeseburger and watch a game with it to you it was. sure i'm

a much better dresser since i've been married to her pocket square was my doing a little pink but yeah from the watch to the clothes you know i when they'll love to wear flip flops to a fancy dinner he loves flip flops everywhere we go and number when you want to wear flip flops to church i go honey i got to draw the line and he goes what did you say jesus for if. this is were for books i can argue that. but yes so yeah of course i mean it's one of the things i love to talk about and absolutely given fashion advice so what's this is too good to be true what's the biggest problem you two have. probably where we're going to live i'm not a fan of l.a. i know you love l.a. but for me you are from chicago i have real estate there i have restaurants there and that's where my family and friends are and that's you know for me that's where i want to raise our kids you know i want to do you that's the hardest thing that is it's funny you ask that because sometimes people say oh you guys seem so perfect

you must have some problems and we're like any other couple trust me you know we argue about all sorts of things but it's definitely the biggest biggest thing in our life right now the one thing that we're trying to figure out is where to live and you know i've built this career career i really love and enjoy in los angeles and you know and i have a daily job i mean every day and i can't just pick up and move on and watch as the baby someone watches the baby or he comes to work with you i'm going to do this with. no one. says listen. i can't figure that or chicago is it moving the chicago you were in our house last week i think this is our conversation lately what if he just. puts his foot down do you work to come along. did you know you could surmise that if you are. right now they're not going to let me do that in chicago i know listen larry i mean work if you get a job in chicago and toes you can yes you know to yes i do know that be on t.v.

yeah absolutely and that honestly that's not what it's about it really is a wonderful. you know what it is we're trying to figure it out right now my priority is bill and the baby. but at the same time bill and when i say fine bill i'll quit let's move to scott and then bill goes or hold on hold on i don't want you to resent me i don't want you to regret anything so do you see what i mean so there's a struggle to your i'm good at that it's fun if you want if you want their move. in order culture for we get to some social media questions and other things you had you'd always in success reading follow didn't work one up. you know it was a big show for n.b.c. we were excited about it you know when we were asked to host the show and. you never know i mean in t.v. you just don't know what people are going to like and what they're not going to like. some exact science and you know it was too bad because we got they got these

three incredible you know these three single guys i mean my friends couldn't believe that they were coming they got these guys really need a t.v. show to find love you've got a rock star an entrepreneur you know multimillionaire and i think maybe all of them together plus all the women plus even the guards as the two goes it felt like there was a lot going on with it but we had everything going for us you know we we had the voices are lead in i think eva longoria as a partner on the show was great she was able to help us promote it and everyone thought it was a slam dunk we we were already charting out season to schedule in the network and already cast the next season i mean we had marked off the calendar and then after that second show there was a shock to quote a former. ok we have some social media questions for the moon rock tweets why do you call them rants to build. my bro you know you know what it is i think

we. bill and i yes for husband and wife but we're best friends we really are at the core of our relationship is like a true cause there is look at me like you are such a was really no i'm sorry you are going to deserve it but we are no one will sit up for me i'm like not a typical whiny no no we have fun we do we have we do have fun and you know. we're going to go to chicago area i want to get as super as if you were me ok and you know i have this career that you love them but you have a husband and kid who want to go to chicago what would you do a good move to lose them but i would get a job. i would make do with both was about being on certainly going to miss. a lot of t.v. stations in chicago right now you do syndicated show should that's evil that's our goal our goal is to be able to do want to win so. zoe on twitter wants to know what annoys you most about each other not the question of moving she got what it is there anything about a business or yes he is in her car

a car car the dirty diaper it is it's not normal larry i mean she collects things she has twelve strollers she's a on the borderline of being a hoarder you know if my wife's bathroom was to. come on i like everything about you that you know he leaves wet towels everywhere like he's one of these people he gets out of the shower i don't know i don't know if you're this type of man of men i meet and you tell a lot in the shower when you come out it's almost like you said it was so you do get the floor wet and only the bathroom can you tell us in this hour or so in this area that i do i actually open the door i reach out and grab my tie towel off and then i know you do have shellings no. five minutes and then what are you going to do about. abigail alonzo do you think baby dude will be a mama's boy or daddy's boy who spoils him. he spends prime more time with me i

think i mean that i mean that in a good way i take him with me and he's come to construction sites with me he's with me everywhere i think he's exactly the whole town up months he said that months old bill is a baby hog this is a new term movie grabs him is it baby you know you'll see pictures of him on my twitter or a bill holding the baby in facebook and then people go you're horrible mom where are you you know you're never with your son i go i'm the one holding the camera and no one understands that so he's he never takes a picture of us it's always me taking pictures and videos of that we will gain goal if you only knew just run through some words giuliani's best personality trait. or best personality trait is for authenticity what you see is what it is his is his loyalty very loyal bills the bills pet peeve my messiness is. my pet peeve about him. you know i always has to be so perfect i don't know him to be a little more flawed but he's

a brother to prom and that's true here right. the pleasure was your guilty pleasure deserved a bad sweet tooth really was yours to say and words are independent last night here in new york i did real them every night we have to have a big desire not a little one a big one. do you have another name other than do. well edward is his first name we named after my father now there's one of the others and there's a that's really been my son's middle name is. my middle name as it were your son's and can you rush remember but you thought it sounded too much like a pornstar or something rush rancid. from that rush or rush limbaugh and you get to over the rights. if not what would you be. this c o. major corporations are actually i take that back i would be the president of an entertainment network it's not enough to know a little bit. f.b.i.

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