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to be. the. good afternoon and welcome the prime interest i am perry and boring but i'm bob english and here's a story that we're tracking today the list markets are up king graduation burning while the bank of england said they put q.e. on the whole this morning the s. and p. five hundred edged over seven thousand one hundred today with the help of a key manufacturing. port according to barron's at one of our key sources they say
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quote it's hard to understate the gains in this report unfortunately construction spending collapse by the largest amount in a year missing expectations dramatically and mortgage rates that would be the cost of buying a home think constructions are up again now just shy of four and a half percent problem is just three months ago they were all percentage points lower and that was about the time chairman bernanke you threaten to taper off his q.e. bond buying then there are all these funds that swooped in to buy cheap foreclosed houses and turned them into rental properties well they are selling as we've been reporting abuse of the i.p.o.'s in other words they're dumping the inventory on the middle class we can't have above with right and as zero hedge notes american homes for rent just priced out of forty four percent discount versus its june prospectus offering meaning rents both small in new york size alike are leaving the ship and there's new developments with the controversial durban amendment which we've coined
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as the swipe fight and you as a district judge take to back the federal reserve's rule capping debit card spight fees saying they're still too high the durbin amendment has saved merchants billions to date which they're not passing on to consumers and retailers are asking for even more meanwhile banks are losing revenue and passing these costs on a debit card costumers more than likely the fed will appeal of the court's decision i'll break down interchange fees in detail in just a bit and i will discuss a number of recent global economic trends with gerald celente detroit fred summers versus yellen well you get the picture and hopefully we will get a handle on the future. and here is what's in your prime interest.
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i. channeling the dog from back to the future it's time to think fourth dimensionally that means we're going to look into the crystal ball with the help of gerald celente and he is the director of trends research institute gerald thank you for joining me thank you it's great to be with you well muni's are in the news we have detroit and we have this prediction from meredith whitney a few years ago which didn't come true in its day are we seeing the first domino right here with detroit is it all about to fall. well it's not all about the fall and she's correct i believe in her assessment of all of these unfunded pensions etc but to us at the trends journal the did the fall of detroit the bankruptcy is
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a metaphor for the entire united states so let me explain this is from a it's gone from motown to no tax this this was the country you know henry ford giving workers a working wage so they could buy automobiles this is then becomes the place where dion dust realisation began us and america starts sending its jobs to cheap labor markets whether within the states and then overseas and also bob very importantly it also became the blueprint for america's future in producing garbage from quality products you know i'm old enough to remember when order mall bills were really great and then they became really crummy and that's when the japanese and other marketers moved in to the united states and then when you look at what's going on in detroit now in keeping the metaphor for the united states it's
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a new form of voice stary to measures here's how it goes we go bankrupt we don't have money to pay the pension is and the people that earn their money but i'll tell you what we have money for we're going to pay back those banks seventy five cents on the dollar how's that so when you look at what's going on in detroit and see what's going to be going on around the rest of the nation we're going to have these same problems this is what you could look forward to add one more word president obama say that detroit wasn't going to go bankrupt. well he might have said that and i would add that japanese they do produce some good cars but we have a key manufacturing statistic that came out today it's the manufacture report and it was fifty five point four it beat consensus so what are the relevance of these economic statistics to our economy right now. well that was
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a look at the one that came out of ad of china and that came out in fifty point three and it's just up from fifty point one if they're still weak and i believe the ones from china as many people do in the business they're being redeemed and it's very important because if the united states doesn't buy and japan and europe doesn't buy china doesn't make and if china doesn't make that noise trail you're brazil canada olivia chile all these natural resource exporting countries they don't sell their products we're looking at a global slowdown everyone knows that when these q e two stop q e three and when interest rates go up and they're going to have to go up listening to your report about construction spending when mortgages when interest rates go up the economies go down and the bubble is china it was built
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the same way as this q.e. bubble has been built well china has certainly had some short term funding problems or money markets have seized up and it's very similar to what happened in the united states just prior to lehman so what is their exit strategy from all this what is your prediction of this. they don't have one in the same line here how they're going to get out of the tapering once they start dumping eighty five billion dollars in buying a bonds a government backed securities where they're going to do for an encore how are they going to keep interest rates low and you pointed out that that the thirty year rate went up one hundred basis points and actually the quick is rising twenty six years so when the end is sit in china more than just a credit problem they have a huge debt problem and they have a huge balloon of a real estate bubble in other bubbles so and by the way you know china's. greatest
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fear is what people they're people when you look at you know with the with the with the gross product is for the average person in china it ranks like a round bag with a dash in iraq so what you're going to see are built hundreds of millions of angry people and they're not going to be able to control them this is a huge issue that doesn't make the media ok let's switch over to the u.s. and the federal reserve monetary policy we have bernanke it looks like he's going for the exit doors is it going to be summers or is it going to be yellen or some other third party. well of course there are the people in the real democratic party that want yellen and they want to put a woman in peru particularly pelosi and others and then on the white house side they want larry summers let's take a look at larry summers let's you cannot mention larry summers name without adding the word brilliant either before in the middle or after every time this guy showed
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up when he was heading the obama economic team it was always the brilliant larry summers what has the brilliant larry summers ever done that has turned the corner of the economy absolutely nothing one failure on top of another and one other thing about the brilliant larry summers this is the same guy at the last end of of the clinton administration who pushed through the glass steagall act that deregulated the banks that allowed them become to become the casinos they gamble that brought about the panic of oh wait that's larry summers and then you look at yellen and go back to the fed minutes that were released five years later after as they always do they hold him back and she along with the rest of them every one of them called the panic of a way wrong as it was evolving so it's more of the same and worse well yeah that's actually something we pointed out on yesterday show was that if you look at yellen
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she was she was simply cheerleading on this expansion of monetary policy during a real estate bubble and then if you look at summers another thing we've highlighted is that she pretty much tanked the harvard indictment fund so could it be that there is going to be a third person that comes in here is this just like a p.r. campaign for the media to float various options here. whoever it is it's going to be a member of the club and it's going to be much different than what exists it's the same crew. so so let me ask you what is the expectation we have expectations of tapering at the end of the year now maybe maybe not it seems like there's a new policy every day unknowns what is your prediction of the length of two we are going into two thousand and thirteen and two thousand and fourteen even. our it's difficult to say but what we do know is that interest rates are going to have to go up yes and this global ponzi scheme of printing digital money not worth the paper
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it's not printed on is going to happen and when interest rates go up the economy goes down period paragraph it's in every country it's the same thing again the only rio look at retail sales what's driving retail sales the most one of the big items automobiles tell you what so we don't need any references any any references at all will going to give you a loans zero per se doesn't that sound familiar what they did with the real estate market they're doing the same thing with the auto market and that's a huge sector is society so as the interest rates go up the economy goes down when will the interest rates go up on their own and the fed won't be able to jack him down because after all they say they're going to keep it at zero i don't know it seems to be a paradox because they say they're going to taper in other words they're just going to take their monetary foot off the pedal but at the same time they're going to
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take their own interest rates or keep them low into two thousand and fourteen two thousand and fifteen maybe what is eventually going to drive interest rates higher . i think you're going to see a deep basement of the currency and that's why so many people still believe in gold and roy one of them and so you're going to be able to debase the currency is only so much and then they're going to have to do something to strengthen them when that happens then you're going to see interest rates go up well when you talk about debasement of the currency what is what is the alternative to that are we going to receive are we going to return to a gold standard or acquires a gold standard i believe that zoellick the former head of the. world where you have world bank thank you i think he came up with the best solution and yes gold part of a basket of currencies it was the you won the dollar to your oh and gold or some other precious metal maybe possibly silver but i see i see it in
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a new world reserve currency in the future ok let me ask you about this new world can you do you have any are there predictions from your trends in newsletters that you can share with us here and we have just about a minute left. our greatest concern is war and the war in the middle east there's a civil war going on now in egypt they're not calling it that i mean after all in the united states they still don't call it a military coup i mean how could anybody buy that b.s. line and so with the gulf it's not going to end it's not going to be a happy ending and you also have a civil war in syria you have one in libya you have one in yemen in bahrain they're not calling them that that's what they are as long as the united states israel iran lebannon russia china would ever become involved in these conflicts you're going to see these civil wars go to regional wars that's our greatest fear so let me ask you can you expand upon a regional war how would that play out again we only have about thirty seconds but
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what would a regional war look like in the u.s. of the u.s. were involved well it was the u.s. supplying of course now the syrian rebels and we think the trigger points going to be israel israel already has bomb syria twice and they'll have another reason to do it because now they're saying that they didn't get all the missiles the last time so that's what we think is going to be the flashpoint and when that flash point happens then you're going to see other countries in the middle east probably unite against israel that's that's that's a very provocative statement and unfortunately we're out of time thank you for joining me this is gerald celeb director of the trends research institute and coming up area and breaks down the durbin amendment we promise it's not too long retailers have been saving millions at the expense of big banks but they're still crying fall yesterday a federal judge handed down a ruling that could mean lower costs for retailers and customers alike then later i do a political commentator sound on fast foods in the ratings agency so it turns out that
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was. i am a swipe a fight can ten years between credit card companies and retailers over who should bear the brunt of the debit card swipe fee burton on wednesday july thirty first a district judge shut down the federal reserve's rule on the durbin amendment which kept a swipe fees at twenty one to twenty six cents the court said the cap was not for conan and nuff the durbin amendment was a last minute provision added to the dodd frank financial reform law that
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drastically lower fees and took a bite out of banks revenues while we're discussing the case let's break down interchange fees they're also known as a swipe fee and by definition. it is a fee charged to merchants when a customer pays with a credit or debit card when a customer for example swipe their debit card at a retail store and there is a hidden be assessed by the banks to process the transaction the banks negotiate between each other and the fee is charged to the merchant bank the swipe fight is contentious because of a very lucrative industry interchange fees represent about fourteen billion dollars per year before of lamentation of the durbin amendment swipe fees averaged forty four cents per transaction the fed kept those fees at twenty one and twenty six seconds the court however threw that rule out yesterday and swipe fees will likely have to be lowered even further the sponsor of the measure as senator durbin said
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it would be good for consumers he claimed credit card companies are being unfair and setting the price too high this is how soon you're durbin explained it. over dinner change fee was in the range of forty cents per transaction the actual cost the actual cost closer to ten cents maybe even less they were charging three to four times as much over the cost of actually clearing the transaction to merchants and retailers across america. the durbin amendment mandated debit card swipe fees to be reasonable and proportional to the cost incurred and savings were to be passed on to consumers passage of the durbin amendment was a win for retailers they have already seen eight hundred twenty five million dollars in savings according to the electronic payment coalition retailers however are not contractually obligated to pass those savings on and shoppers are actually
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paying on average one point five percent more the billing is that reported that retailers gas stations are pocketing the money that was intended for consumers on the other side of the equation are the banks who have lost revenue by having to slash swipe fees these costs to the banks are being transferred to consumers in the form of reduced services and higher fees according to bankrate dot com significantly less banks are offering free checking and more banks are charging higher fees citing the durbin amendment as the cards are yesterday's hearing judge richard leon told the federal reserve that caps on debit swipe fees were still too high and john breaux out from the competitive enterprise institute pointed out that should the fed adopt leland's interpretation it will almost certainly result in more bank and credit union fees for consumers. but it's not all bad news so while
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merchants and credit card companies are arguing over who pays what and swipe fees the electronic payment system is quickly gaining market share over the antiquated banking system there is a full wad of new innovations emerging including mobile payments mobile wallets virtual currencies crowdfunding and more that's changing the way we financially interact with one another so if you're not sold by the durbin amendment don't worry it's not the end all and now let's get to today's daily. jesu's bad get sam sadducees here for the daily duel and again what's with the lucent tie this is too cool for school actual happy hour hello bob it's almost
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happy hour but ten minutes all right so look first story this week hundreds of fast food workers are on strike protesting labor conditions at the u.s. is the largest chains so workers at mcdonald's wendy's and burger king are demanding higher wages and the right to form unions your take should we pay workers poverty wages in america and what is that is that a great is not a great way to run an economy what are poverty wages wages in which you can't get out of poverty if you're making money but who's actually working at these companies like mcdonald's and wendy's and would have you know i think the average age has dropped from twenty to twenty nine so now we're talking about young people is not an argument out people who are raising families that are working on the traditionally or i would say traditionally minimum wage policy has been an ages one unfortunately it excludes people from the workforce because when you have businesses that only have that they have to pay a certain wage let's say it's ten dollars or twenty dollars an hour they're simply going to hire fewer people but because of the economic situ. that we're in yes
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people are actually working at mcdonald's to support a family that's the larger problem right no i'll give it to you that the obama economy that's been created as one of the low wage jobs now low wage service sector jobs that's the reality since we've devastator manufacturing base and since we've relied on wall street to manufacture most of the wealth in the country right now if you call it wealth ok manufacturing wealth on the nominal basis owner fitting well there you go but this is the reality we live in is now we have all these workers who are not young workers anymore they're older workers they're working in the service sector industry we need to be paying them enough so that they can then contribute to the economy and it look we're talking about yum brands we're talking about corporations that are making enormous amounts of money c.e.o.'s that are making enormous amounts of money in studies that have shown that if you raise the pay of workers that the price of food is would go up a negligible amount and that's something that we can all afford if we're making more money unfortunately that's a very i would say neal classic old maybe post can be an argument that will show
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you would call it you have states exactly what i would call it that you can just arbitrarily raise wages and then the the economy magically recoverable what you need to do is increase real wealth and that that comes down to productivity we need to increase productivity we need to are you kidding me we needed to be has increased steadily since the seventy's and the only thing that has a lot with it is wages the only thing that has increased with our productivity is wages and basically all wear out all the fast food workers that are on strike and those who are advocating on their behalf are asking is that they get paid what they work for if if minimum wage kept up with what it was in the one nine hundred sixty s. they'd be making fifteen dollars and they would have dealt with this productivity that you so demand yeah would be over twenty dollars an hour they'd be well listen to us in that i can point to the sixty's a family of four could survive on one income one income so there's something there's a disparity there that something has gone a wry and it has to do with the purchasing power of the u.s. dollar nothing is gone awry in our economy needs to
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a down. but the bigger problem is wealth inequality in the fact that these corporations have the money they can spare but they don't want to ok we're going to move on to our next topic no. let's see here that according to a recent new york times analysis s. and p. has loosened credit rating standards in order to attract more business the report states that s. and p. has routinely given higher ratings on new mortgage bonds when compared to other ratings agencies this divergence became more apparent after s. and p. changed its bond rating criteria last september and in a related story wall street journal news j.p. morgan's recent subtle over electricity manipulation charges brings total fines paid by the company to seven billion dollars which is actually a paltry amount compared to the profits of fifty three billion dollars and that's since two thousand and eleven so is wall street learning its lesson you know ok i mean it's this speaks to the point of psychopathy really running rampant on wall street s. and p. knows exactly what it's doing when they get sued by the government so what are they
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just like taking taking their medicine and the changes threaten all as we said which if you mortgage these these companies take into account what their crimes will cost them how much they might get sued and they make a comparison of it which they make off and it's like this side saddle airbags which general motors actually will tank with g.m. sure they are making calculations on how much they're going to pay and how much revenue they get yeah but why do they do that it's because the government allows them to do that we have these we have these veils of protection we have the e.p.a. we have you know all these regulatory agencies that give cover but don't actually provide any protection for the investors or the consumers so if we actually had a free market system in which these companies had to answer for their own actions i would say we'd have a vastly different result or if maybe these companies' c.e.o.'s were afraid that they might be thrown in jail when their committee well i were odd yeah i would have to they were they rather than just having to write a check for whatever their company earns in three days there might be there might be a letter is interesting there's an interesting of parallel here because in europe there's
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a. that wealth management system especially in switzerland where if you're managing somebody else's money and you screw up in other words you create crew you know you do fraud. basically you're you're on the hook for it i mean look these people are shortsighted they know they know exactly what's happening they think that they're going to make their money get out be somewhere in the islands or something when it all falls down and that was the calculation they made two thousand and two thousand and seven yes we know we're building up a giant bubble we know it's all going to crash but i won't be a part of it when it happens i'm getting my money and getting out fortunately everybody's thinking that way that's going to set up quite a disaster i hate to tell you this but you are going to be a part of it and unfortunately that's all the time we have today and there are a dual if you want to weigh those today today's show be sure to like us on facebook at facebook dot com slash prime interest you can follow sam here at sam's you can follow me english p.-i sam thank you so much for joining me yet again thank you.
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and it was a day of status quo ante here ad from interest the bank of england said still let them in bonds and the s. and p. was up marginally but not too far from a decade plus old trading range there was more job opening at the fed boring and a visa and mastercard are in the middle of a swipe fight with starbucks and seven eleven gerald solent a didn't hesitate to make a few of dire predictions for our favorite reserve currency to which we were worth somewhat privy and our popular is to do alert mr saxon dug into the make double and the slack as in peace standards no news is good news except it thanks for tuning in come back tomorrow everyone affray. i'm harry and boring and have
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