on larry king now dwight doug gooden the baseball great talks about his struggles with cocaine and i've spotted the first time i could have a normal life because i fell in love with it right there it's bad as it says may sound phone love with it and eventually became addicted to them on winning one versus father yet the source he is on life support so i give him the ball and the doctor so he saw the game you know me home from the hospital passed away but the last baby so he put it was that look at it it's all ahead on larry king now. welcome to larry king our special guest one of my favorite folks doug gooden the new book appropriately titled dot a memoir and one thousand eight hundred actually the year the sa young award winner

in one nine hundred eighty five triple crown recipient going twenty four and for two hundred sixty eight strikeouts in the area one point five three world series champion with the mets in the six in eighty six in ninety six in two thousand a champion with the yankees dogs in stores everywhere about it my friend bob costas says the young bride goodman was as beautiful a watch as any that year i've ever seen the questions seem to be not whether he would make the hall of thing but whether he would rank among the greatest pitches who ever lived in dot gooden honestly confronts how and why the story didn't quite turn out that way why did you write this i thought thomas right i was comparable in my own skin very constable and happy with my recovery and when my sobriety i see when the slippery have thousands way of me based removing the self myself and admit that i do have a disease called drugs i am a addict i thought about it but up by doing that and then. was at the about that in

a book and i myself also know one day i was doing the twelve steps and i will step four hours like the inventory of itself and i start right now and chapters as a man this would be a great book so i was that talked to my mom i'm older kids about doing it to make sure that it was ok with religion someone's dark moments and it was all for this it's going to help you help others go forward so i put the chapters zelman cowen shops around it came with the book happy i did it was great therapy for myself and of like help someone else that may have a family member or friend quantas some situations where they're hard to write some stuff is very hard and like in the book we're right west of about business parade does very difficult a as though it is the victory parade of the eighty six world series and you would not in the parade because you're on coke yes that was. very tough the right ivan was doing it as i don't put that in but i say you know what my secrets would keep me sick so i have to put that in and be a public figure i want to share that where you can hear what happened coming from

me a post of others is very tough because miss a parade that day you go from which should have been the greatest day of my baseball career at that time that the rails later turned into the worst day of my baseball career at the time and that's when i knew that i was powerless over drugs and alcohol at that point the end of it over the years many many people who have been addicted to cocaine and the like and they never had an answer as to why they took it why did you first hey go on top of the world you're a great star you're terrific. why. my problem was always been a people pleaser we got in trouble remember going to our roads was house bass i was going to get pot which is drugs well he said i'm rather good i don't have any at that time yet a couple females in the house knows can make out with each other you know stored cocaine i could never imagine myself doing it and was more attracted to girls than the drug so they're saying i want to join with us but the only weapons around with

them i had to do a line of cocaine are forcing me to take that chance i'm thinking one i can hurt did the one line and i was probably worse than i could have done my life because i fell in love with it right there as bad as it says may sound for love with it and eventually became addicted to it oh i'm sober now two years marjorie two years for myself. is the high is so high that it's yeah you can't wait till the meth one that's a problem as he requests it is like we take the first hit you get a major rise but you never get the rossini chasing that that first hit that you took you could never get it to get there first you never get it sometimes if you know says miss off on most of two or three days searching for the hidden you never get it and it becomes the most important thing in your life before you kid is for your wife for your mother the amazing book to write about this your son was arrested for selling crack right you were in james same jail with your son yes i

was at the low point i was deaf in one of the points i was horrible because were made as those that balance has been in jail will always had dreams of one day that i can stick around long enough for the major leagues and hopefully gets drafted it will become teammates that way when the same uniform and i fashion not when the same you know gel so uniform and to do that was very difficult to go through. you have said so much talent when you look back at these you say be ever have regrets i have regressed glad to be careful with that child of the leader knows rest to mice but i want to keep it fresh there were no if it was let my guard down to go back to drugs what could have been one things i should beat myself up with was expectations of others expectations of the media and then it became my expectations of you know you should have had three underwears should been a hall of fame there's a lot of that so work and i sort of struggle with god on something that i didn't do that but then i had to think about it as i was taken when i was

a kid my only dream was to play major league baseball never thought any awards obviously anything about the hall of fame they were thought of as one of their long time because i love the game and some of the game so i was able to accomplish one by the clear any award that a pitch can win that three rosaries running who's the no hitter i got inductance of mess hall of fame so i said well my to feel bad about the career and that's what got me thinking the different parties in a career has to beat myself up about it. the influence of your father he wanted to be a major league is it is amazing because once i told him i want to play professional baseball when you get off work we'll go to the park and we were collies drills and as any kid we young seven eight nine years old just want the ball hit it we were about three weeks we just feel these drills while at the ball later on as you get older that note is gone so is basically his dream at the beginning you know if there is room for me then became my dream and want to graze from as i had my dad was calling him time i made the team it in having him at my first professional game

and you know when we see a pitcher there's a first baseman it's a pistol but it's things first base in a eisley are my nephew gary sheffield he also started him very young training him as well is that close to gary very close to gary there is basically is when everybody's more like my you know brother you know we actually was kids share the same bed at one time so when we were a boy or your father negotiated your contract it negotiated my first concert i did it was base of my agent with that and then i got a's of a job but then at the mr ninety five season want to join the yankees i said negotiate a contract with mrs sobber or what form provision play for the mets that sort of drive to make hundred two i want to keep sport to see that bill it's only our call it's a little falls towards in it's one game and then more on this one i guess than one hundred three personally spurgeon yeah they are called aaa for the aaa you know players who are also those who offer us an offer ties and david johnson is the manager there and i remember at their pitching great for the playoffs the aaa

bursars he told me said what i meant is make sure you know my team something while i'll be greatly subir aaa they had to bigley job that was a structurally flawed analysis joke on us they would know what you told me as i don't worry about it you don't make the team so i get invited to the big lee camp not even on the roster yet and so all the camp you know for office was telling the media was also in the aaa maybe double it was works out but david told me that i'm told you know your make the team so. the last game of spring training is about the fourth or fifth then before it would break in camp that they come up to miss a regulation should make the team and at that point you very cited but then you think it am i really ready for this film is a big challenge going to be one thousand years old you're always come for though or you were a cocky that year you had a lot of confidence. very cocky that they would help with when i was younger my dad ecosystem our protein as was softball player those guys not dollars when i was a kid i think i can help with the confidence that in florida yes for tampa yes. we

know the budget the world the eighty six world series it is right that you you win the world series you call your father and then you call your dealer where you wanted coke right after that high i was in that enough of a high it was that's it as most a choice what i was told in the now where you celebrate with the team on the field celebrate a team in a clubhouse so i want to go in by the trainers from the call my dad the sauber with him a little bit when they're called the drug dealer says they mess out they can. get a bit of drugs and meet the team at a local bar in long island obviously i never made it to meet the team and what's in the sun come up in the house or project some of the album and then a member watching the beginning of the parade and once i saw that that was sold me off but then that's when all the shame and embarrassment and guilt came into place at a point because at that point i knew i really had a problem street up at the t. no it. i think it's he was aware of it to their credit though in

a season they i say called an office and talking about the rumors those who denied it are mainly boys major league baseball common the office also a mad oh it i was twenty one and the time a common office and i was constant denying it and. they weren't as they were that way off it says but you know unless they have some evidence that contests you but then in eighty seven was in spring training in a mess again heard rumors they said would you give us some your you know for it our tests may not knowing how long it stays in the system as a sure you are going to test obviously the test came up positive so we gave him a choice is that we can suspend you will pay or you can go to treatment with pay so i was that if the treatment would pay still not the guy had a problem so base that was enough for thirty days in the us medicine institution here in new york and based just marking on days and just on my time is to learn about myself and in a to say use you how did you come to the yankees i came in the yankees will happen was a suspect in one thousand and five so i was out there year the raina groans

a good friend of mine and he worked with mr stanbury for a long time and he was it was kind of you know it was like my god it had me train and going to any meetings and he said i was like the big ag at that point i would play where ever you know are so he said when the season over the summer almost a week which you and so seattle obviously was playing in the playoffs are very lengthy pages of faile besides david cohen because the better might says is so when the series over mr mckenna tamper we had a meeting every said may she was soon tired so i well it was too tired to meet joyce's goes west so we told no i judge. and then well that is important in your life very important so we talked about two hours never talked about baseball just one noel's door my kids and was torn down and thomas's friend and they say call themselves like the yankee says sure so my dad went over to the tampa complex and worked out a deal to become a yankee and it was just great and. he's moderate even my dad was passed and it was

thought time of the hospital was like that or he was pacing in place and all had a right yeah one thousand and six that's why our mets fans don't like to hear me say the greatest moment of my baseball career as puts him over the yankees by those they're there took place behind that because my dad was very sick is on dollars this is fighting kidney failure for a long time is hard star thought so the day that there's no hitter i was a fly on the booing him before the surgery to say that they could make it through surgery one of them or not though he probably wanted to pitch so i called joe torre it was magic team tomas come in a pitch he said no just go all take as much time you need so as an aussie tonight and i called them up as well let him know i was ok it's turned out to be a no hitter. and so the next morning fly home he had the surgery is on life support so i gave him the ball and the doctor saw me saw the game you know made over the hospital not pass away but the last game he saw me pitch was that. who i played with why didn't the book is dog.

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to come up together has a year ahead of me is i see a draft of the one nine hundred eighty i was drafted in eighty two it was going to be enough said williams yes i tell you what force potential nobody had more talent in fortunately we had a lot of some of the problems but up for his talent wise as a senior about better how did you handle incarceration that was definitely a problem for me i was very tough any time you know because right is tough but going in that age of forty for to have months you know way from kids no contact was very difficult for myself i'm at times you thought it was a nightmare at times you know how you don't get out of there and those times you don't know how you're going to stop that once you get out and then you get there relive your life while in there lot of time is the see how it all happened at all on folded and what i do it or what i'm doing here because there's you know the name just a number the number one the only time you close would go well ok i mean with that i don't buy a game you played against each other there had

a good time yankee said dodger stadium there was a lot of fun great cities they had the kind of clothes they were i mean is like. before we have our problems with each other but it's based on what romans what different your friends would say is that it was called each other talk but it was just start hating each other. we've talked since in our lives it was good and i have a lot of specs and things he's doing as well as me and i know that in a day he has come back and i have his day they would've been different if you were pitching in kansas city rather than new york. i think i'll pause to have some of the same problems i think it probably wouldn't win as well as far as i think i have same problems because a lot of times well go back home run all season to tampa i was thinking about guys that didn't have my best interests and so it was there so i think it will happen because this is a tough town a player i mean the press yes it can be tough stuff when you're in billboards in times square in music videos with bruce springsteen you're in commercials. you had

all. those right there and i wouldn't trade them for nothing obvious i was to offer to fill stuff had been different but the things i was going my career i mean it was a great time did you always stay friendly with george always the front doors in georgia like a second father to be. when i retired from the eggs in two thousand are worth on the joys you know for six years and i have to know a lot about the lot of people who get to see the things you do you know from the kinds of his heart of that he was a good man very good man who don't other stuff it's really into being crazy boss he was tough i remember on the first time a sort with the yankees ninety six a sort of all in three and at the laws of what goes they don't my wife and he's coming down the tunnel say to her as miss summers i deduce you saw eyeballs i don't like to be my wife he said we'll win the thing game. but that he may well in a day and we talked about bad and well when i work with him i had to suicide that

not many people got so i kind he was a carrier he was of others and of things he did. the obvious how did you stop taking drugs a stop by our base is going on is for myself i have to change my lifestyle and what i mean by that people places and things all have to change i have to get honest with myself and basically get totally involved in sobriety in recovery you're either in or you're out always have one foot in i kept in the same result so i had to totally commit to any a means get a sponsor have a great support group doesn't recover that we toast of base daily and to be true to myself where i'm not feeling right that day at the pick up the phone what do you do for a living for a living now i coach my yos baseball team it's often i get the opportunity to do some corporate for the mets and yankees you know a business week's which i really enjoy and like working with the youth that's really my passion and joy to coach i mean i want to get back into the game i think

of eventually i see a bike in some fashion or another right now i have two teenage boys is graduate next year and then i have two younger kids eight and three so i think isaf may be more involved in their lives and what's coming at them because when i played i was away all the time miss a lot of school activities miss a lot of the sports news so now i should be there for them as once i can't but eventually i think i can opt in to say he is so bored could have been i should be in the hall of fame here in the met all of it was if a and i didn't have this problem he would natural for the hall of fame i doubt i think of for sure about to have miles for problems fighting of involved with drugs narco there's no doubt i would have been i don't dwell on it too much now because for us on my mind but i think it was just the way it was meant to be where i get to share my story now and talk to kids while not in there and to share with them what happened with me was he lied when you watch it. when i want to watch it you have a want it well you get true some time and sometimes you think about it would be

nice to have a drink or you might be watching games the commercial might think about it for a moment. i can't stand the thought is if you pick up the phone or try to change thinking i think that's going to rest my life but the thing is what i do about that when i get that trigger is because an addictive personality is always with you right this lifetime commitment. yes and magic is a lifetime commitment and one of my problems before was i'll get some clean time now i think ok i have it now i can do this for myself and i felt every time so i know i have to stay committed when you are judging pitchers come you know this kid harvey of the mets and the other kid coming up what do you think i think the mess when i went to some good days ahead hopefully it's fun watching harvey world is two stars i think as a lot of potential as well as sort of game he did when he said well i don't play that harvey pitt should make you comment for the whole game is it when there's a lot of fun because a game idea that maybe this could be avenue for me you know doing some alice and

stuff like that but as far as special clothes and watch these guys in person pitch they have a bright future things can see helping educate the named doc i see came i see so grown people say dr j. but now i had my dad had a friend and he was a movie he was a real doctor real m.d. and anytime in my game i would just write some about and he was some for every one of the reason was he would say come on doc operate on doc you have another patient doctor doing at twelve the local newspaper do a story on me this guy told me curing his past when i was in did story he was writing this same thing that i would say but the current doctor just kind of stuck with me through high school and it wasn't at all yes i'm going to read a quote you included in your book by the right of the director and at the age of twenty why goodness sibley the best pitcher in baseball and getting better if all goes well for the next fifteen or twenty is he will be the best pitcher in the history of the game the feeling you give that when you hear people say that as

a compliment as a compliment to say that the best pitcher ever has been some great pitchers to go through so. it even be brought up in that even though it didn't happen but to be mentioning that there's a great photo many wenzhou up with one ninety four. you're on the ballot aren't you a member of done the old timers right now out to be like the committee or something like that i think there's a chance i think so and i said because i think it's unfortunately where we start of so hot and so says early you're always prepared to that where things change over a year and i think a lot of web app the me later my career where there's a contract because hall of fame was always good per to my first couple years you know great little employer that was great at twelve i totally love the bigger because i was taller then but totally dominated then pitching at that time you could either invade and measurably i was ok i had a home runs as a pitcher got once or was larger most places were always think we're better than what we really are you know there's a but i took

a lot of pride in my head there we play a game called if you only knew what would people be surprised to hear about a lot of the ballplayers that people don't know probably that they're all soaps this is where they tell you that or not they are right there everyone step on the phone lines up in the fall are going to go to the bullpen to warm up at a certain time are going to sort them out pitches i want to in my warm up by times but i had a player tell me once when they won the first game award series as he would with the same underwear until a last while everybody is a little different odell for closure favre city the pigeon other than new york i'll say l.a. and that was because of the mound moser great mound the prison as they didn't dodge they didn't always seem like i guess what the the way six was up on a plate like it was close to what you really were and at the night games faulk was becoming so the ball in trouble at my spot low percentage of that the angels will it was ok but once they got there the toys in my career but out it was fun what

julie's favorite city the first city was they probably several cisco knew a kidding themselves. because to me it was always suspense of. course mlodinow was always a family tree where the wife would come and so of course we're going to visit this beautiful city in a ball park break their camels again over their boys place the first ice fits us a lot of the mercer told me once about san francisco we have when he was with the giants we have a home field disadvantage because it was tough place i mean the pits and stuff was the toughest area that a face silly davis was very tough wins with the same school giants and i was doing colonise on m l b they saw stuff it was tough. and even we came to the yankees i was in cleveland can do them up funny as teammate roger might doubt but for all you had to go your toes when he was around scariest teammates but i still say probably our kevin mitchell really great guy i get it but you want to piss him off who is your closest friend on team david cohn i was

a strawberry was first appears in there when david crane david cohen came over ninety seven it was him he still don't cover the yankees this was the first big purchase you made probably are you myself or is the twenty camaro with the t. tops in one thousand and two i got drafted as the twenty tomorrow was it was your favorite moment the no hitter yes it was your favorite throw by my carboy if i talked about how hard it threw the fastball but to me is no better place than a curve ball because you're looking for the third strike where you don't swing you like the called third strike the call to us but that was another sport you were good at football like football as i got older you know when the big kid and i was afraid of contact but i was a decent quarterback but when he sees of in the future with what i will hold in up what forty eight way we go why good men do is fifty's in the fifty's i think doing something involved with the youth i mean as much your passion working with kids what is baseball the way this is done and what life issues that's why to be what do

you make of baseball's rules noted with regard to drugs like the rules i like that the way they had it i think they've done. a decent job of cleaning up i think bustling sun i'll send it out with that and i think it's going keep improving you know they suspensions should be tougher. first time wasn't fifteen days second time one hundred days the time you're up that there are no account like that format but i think that once you've got test positive it's to get some type of treatment even if it's severus just to say that some type of treatment has to be there as well but the head of addiction is a true all drug addicts of very good liars all one percent is your lies to yourself and thereby there's no you lie but you believe it and this is how powerful a drug is really one of the quotes in this book is about you. pete rose said when i was in a bad as box and doc was throwing those inside fastballs at me i wish i'd known what a damn nice guy was all i could think was he must really hate mariano rivera said doc went through so much adversity to come all the way back and get that no hitter

that moment taught me to never never give up you must feel so proud of what you've been able to do with your life oh definitely because it was dark moments where i would say i hated myself like the life i was living and didn't know if i can ever get out of that at all levels in arm to come full force now face my problems talk about it it made it and move on to helping others and then vehicles like that is very or means you ever think too and looking back that you might have had too much too soon i think. because he was so good so young and so young when really trade i just wish i would make better decisions and been more open about what was really going on with me and. thanks for the pleasure the book is a memoir by good or great guest. things on twitter

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you live on one hundred thirty three bucks a month for food i should try it because you know how fabulous bad luck i got so many i mean the town i know that i've seen the team really messed up. in the old story so personally apologize a. little worse for the little. white house or the radio guy for a minute from a quick fix i want you to watch what we're about to give you've never seen anything like this i'm telling. you guys i'm not a minute and it's a great little step so i just got back from a jam packed weekend in los angeles opportunity to attend and speak at a.