tv Documentary RT August 9, 2013 4:29am-5:01am EDT
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to defrost down i believe that peace is more important than anything else for the sake of peace we are open to any compromise in the agreement. when we will do anything to improve and to violence. so just to put our efforts together to look after our country. to stop violence. to make zero future better. let's forget all our negative experience in the bust and think about the future. milliner is mugs a washed out a trespasser her four year old grandson and i think georgian she lived in south
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a city most of her life after several days of skirmishes on the border that night she went to bed with a light heart assured that the war was over. if i had run my children would have been frightened david moore. no i said don't be afraid everything's going to be fine then i got undressed and lay down when i heard the shooting and loud bangs i quickly put on my clothes and ran into the cellar. but. last than five hours after appeal for peace the first children rockets heat melana street the grand toddler in her arms she sought refuge in her basement among people jars and pots of jam. my little grandson cried grandma the georgians will kill us.
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you know so i said i'm george and do you think i'm going to kill you he replied no grandma you're not really georgian georgians kill people. the timing of the attack caught the russian leadership of the guard present maybe it was a holiday while prime minister vladimir putin had traveled to china with their lympics. since his beginning arms have been put down during the olympic games but you're in the situation of course completely the opposite. on the eve of the opening ceremony the georgian authorities wanted to could have actions against south a city basically launched a military campaign with the use of heavy artillery and tanks. people have been killed and wounded including russian peacekeepers. this is said and there were
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arming and without this will be met with a response. you. want to put in was giving the russian response had already been mobilized following this is on the border with it if. it was brought to this residence on the outskirts of moscow where he would face challenging tasks president. nobody knew about the deaths of russian peacekeepers and the thousands of south streaming across the border into russia. heavy weights of military decisions always lies on the person that is empowered by the constitution to take them because. this is your decision and no one else's. we talked on the phone some time before these events that it was
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a kind of escalation. we didn't talk with mr putin that night. received reports from. actually it was upon receiving these reports that i made the decision. i think it was the most difficult decision in my life. i wouldn't wish the weight of this decision on any other leader of any other country in the world. in the meantime the barrage of rockets and continue. the residents had only two options hide in the basement or try to flee the town. decided to take their chances the father gathered his kids into an old florida but their mother had to stay behind to care for an elderly relative. or she would see of them again it was there a chore it remains that were found a few kilometers away from home to their car it was shelled by
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a tank. this is where my son and his children died he was in the front seat of. children their monsters. not. those who stayed put sought refuge in basements however they also had to risk their lives by sneaking out food and water was running short and the bodies of those killed were piling up locals use their rare loves and fighting to be graves. since proper funerals were out of the question most of the victims were laid to rest wrapped in linen and carpets right in their own backyards the neighbors couldn't drive them to the cemetery because the fighting was still going on but neither could they leave the bodies out here it's a matter of honor for self-assertive you have to bury your dead. according to russian asked him as the war in south ossetia claimed several hundred civilian lives compared to the death tolls later seen in libya syria or even palestine it
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wasn't that high in the question asked in south acedia was why did it have to go that far why didn't brush intervene earlier. while made a bit of always insisted it was russia's duty to protect civilians in south a said here he also had to consider the larger geopolitical context of. self called me the next day. you should know that there was some of our troops on the georgian territory. really i replied what do you mean so i said you should. there's a large number of citizens on the territory of. and i will do what i have to do and i'll tell you about it so that you know. by two thousand and eight georgia had received around three billion dollars in direct. the atlantans of that funding was
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in display. military uniforms army rations. made in the usa and this is how. to view their attack but over in the kremlin their assessment of american involvement was more level headed. russia should never be in conflict with the united states every american president understands that. we know all about that but i think that was sound reasoning to. they realized it might lead to a very serious conflict which nobody needs. that's realisation notwithstanding all the sides continued playing. through the georgian leadership adopted a new narrative russian aggression of. democratic advances. but.
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we have this small democracy. neighbor russia we only really responded when hundred fifty russian tanks and a.p.c.'s started to move through georgia russia border that was exactly the moment. twenty three fifty pm when i gave the order to. the invaders their purpose the big goal through all the shortest way or you know winning. as brutal as one can get. this thing as one. nation understanding what's really happening on. a year later a european union report would establish unequivocally that it was georgia. and that it was right there personally to try to blur the international understanding of what was happening telling lies straight and playing to fire the.
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truth tellers targeted by the military machine. but second feeley couldn't always keep the act up and one instance he was caught on camera cowering behind his bodyguards. in another nervously chewing on his tire just seconds before a live interview. really was increasingly exhibiting signs of irrational behavior to the russian leadership he started to give all of the same impressions as libyan leader moammar gadhafi d. to western politicians and knowledge of touch rule or the army to kill his own civilians and he had despite all temptations an attempt to remove him from office was never made. this is what you might
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say. i think that in situations like this that a country is real and true intentions come to light. initially we had no intentions of changing the regime in the country. spite of the fact that for very obvious reasons my colleagues and i will never shake mr saakashvili the way. i consider him a war criminal. my will of violence was already gaining momentum tensions between georgians and south the stadiums had been simmering for decades and the experience of being slaughtered in their own homes had traumatized each and every one. their blood is poisoned i tell you it is today they're peaceful but tomorrow both slaughter us all. georgian villages in
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south a city apted almost overnight with people living behind all their belongings litter is made their way in setting houses on fire to fear of retaliation was so strong that some love behind their own elderly were discovered days later hungry and disoriented by rescue workers. oh i hear it's hard have you got food. have you gotten bread. we give you a little. the august air here is usually filled with this sweet smell of ripening peaches. knew beforehand that this smell of decomposing human flesh is also suffocating with sweet according to georgian authorities one hundred seventy. lives in that offensive for days their bodies were rotting in the forest until the locals could get enough confidence to send them back to georgia. people go coffins
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for the georgians to no matter what happens with christians in the dead need to be buried in a traditional way. that everybody could be so gracious there is a point in any conflict when fear transforms into hatred when everything to lose is lost when even older women lose compassion for men of their son's age. that is when violence becomes self-propelling when it reaches the point of no return when the mission creep still is being an option and becomes the aim. this denarius him very realistic and yet it wasn't acted upon.
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. exactly what happened that day i don't know but a woman got killed. piers later is when i got arrested for. for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. innocent people to confess to police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this said lightman no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse and they were often they could get what they wanted they could say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. the.
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basis for the economic ups and downs in the final column month the london deal sang i and the rest because it's a neat take it will be everything on. your own. wealthy british style road some time to explain the free. markets why not scandals. find out what's really happening to the global economy in these kinds of reports on our. mass scenes broad gestures bold proclamations saakashvili was definitely a poli titian of the new generation young eloquent and charismatic not just
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speaking the same language but also saying things their western audience likes to hear. we are three. freedom loving nation and. even when his narrative was falling apart having russia as a boil was really strong this point banking on the audience is old prejudices and reinterpreting history to support his line. we're talking to both. the intrusion of russia into a mixed picture then. they went into afghanistan. in a media world where most wars are reported on from a safe distance it's no wonder that most western outlets sided with saakashvili who by the time had a live t.v. link set up in his own office. on the other hand public relations have never been
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russia's specialty in the days of the conflict many state institutions went into lockdown completely yielding the initiative to saakashvili. haven't been many events like this in our country for the past few decades. and if we're talking about the russian federation as an independent country. it was the first time in its history. the struggle for global public opinion was in many ways just a theater of war i see a turn where exaggerated emotions and tree keep the public's attention i cannot even imagine i mean seeing a twelve year old go through all of this it must be but that also mentally doesn't care about. the real suffering we can blame only one person and joe lieberman i'm not going george and very good people and plain georgian government and he has to resign and that certainly wasn't the one. making the wars all about
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personalities putin in this case is an american pastime ultimately it wasn't that saakashvili was liked so much most american politicians could barely pronounce his last name we can. be really president could be really present charge to really but it conveniently demonize putin better fits old american syria types about russia and its leaders making it as easy p.r. right for second but an excruciating army deal for his people. nellie whose husband and two children were killed while trying to flee the city couldn't speak for months. a few weeks after burying her family she found out that she was pregnant and unlikely mercy of fortune that pulled her out of their beasts of grief but even years later she couldn't bring herself to mansion her dad children's names
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. things are very bad for me in this life but i'm alive. life with them it wasn't god's will. live for as long as god wants. while the georgian attacked. the diplomatic. barely a week after georgia launched its offensive. the blame squarely on russia even once criticizing saakashvili for his actions. stand with the people of georgia. and their democratically elected government with its actions in recent days russia has damaged his credibility and its relations with the nations of the free world. bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the twenty first century. between russia and the.
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more trusting trading barbs had long been normal communication. other than. well i must admit that i was hoping for a more objective analysis. i never had any particular illusions. and russia was put traders the aggressor. it was only some time later that they began to admit. the russians were tough. they didn't attack first now of course after all these commissions including mr venus commission everything confirms what happened in reality. but this diplomatic wrangling meant nothing for those caught in between iran when the balance of side it more or continued to stare south in the face many now hard to exude the partially
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decomposed bodies of their loved ones washed them trust them find coffins and finally give them a proper burial one of the most brutal experiences a mother can suffer. a bit vague. what did you do to those georgians. oh my ball i. just why did they show you from their tanks. the. georgian mothers to had their sons taken from them those sent to attack a sleeping c.d.o. on behalf of georgian democracy returning home in pieces in the name of its territorial integrity.
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yet even that didn't seem enough for president saakashvili to reconsider his tactics that almost five hours discussion about. americans to stop ongoing violence and deterring russian invasion as well as a vote. massive assistance programs for georgia from the united states in order to start immediately build a massive was not to rebuild cds and villages but to rebuild the army so that if. by tacking those cities in the villages again this is how this. funding brain top rated in moscow. response came in last in two weeks in late august russia recognize the independence of south a city and a. just because you have stressed
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many times that you consider this war to be the personal mistake of mr saakashvili that russia doesn't blame it on the people of georgia. but why don't you have the same attitude toward the recognition of the independence obviously your decision influences the people of georgia as a whole and it will probably diesel in many years to come. because otherwise we wouldn't be able to ensure the interests of our citizens or the national interests of the russian federation. just imagine that we would have to go in different directions after what happened. and his companions would start recovering their military power by the way things started receiving help of this kind right away much of the promulgated they deal with for many years. held on to the hope that the georgian government would be able to preserve this territory within its own borders so unfortunately though and this is the crime that really
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committed he committed against the future of his people and against future generations of his people. he actually drove the final nail into what had been his very own country with his own hands he buried those hopes for five years on that decision still weighs heavily on the relationship between the two countries. really remains president he's no longer seen as the young bold reformer he once was rather the opposite is true. his political opponents who control parliament have taken steps to normalize relations with moscow but it's far from a real reference from all. over mr saakashvili has almost all of the political scene now and if the new georgian leadership is able to rebuild relations with the peoples of south a city in a positive. one that reunification of his georgia ever be possible and if saw
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would russia recognize the territorial integrity of georgia. but the media in this world everything depends on the decisions people make me. political will with the world everything depends on the will of the people that occupy these territories the will of georgians and their elected leaders. it's up to the will of the peoples of. animal within that we want them to live in peace which the one usually it's their form to choose what form it takes. we will not influence these processes when you put it but we will of course defend the national interests of russia. you know while has healed that's who and even though the taste of independence is still bitter sweet land long between georgia and russia south a city still struggling to find its feet as an independent nation unemployment is
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high and opportunities for growth a scarce trading with georgia could have offered the solution but few are ready to discuss it just here. every august this bride welcoming land turns black with families making their way to the cemetery. you are my boy. my golden boy. son or i or i. it was a lose lose situation for everyone involved. georgians lost almost a third of their territory. south gained political independence but failed to secure economic self-sufficiency and russians denied themselves an opportunity to normalize ties with its longtime neighbor and ally. and that
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is not to mention the unspeakable that people in all three countries have to go through all because of one of the mad telegenic leader of great promise who couldn't find a better way to fulfill his historic mission. through an act of war. please speak to a language. programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on all t.v. reporting from the world talks about six of the ip interviews intriguing story for you. then try. to find out more visit our big don't all t.v. dog called. it was terrible.
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the city was on fire nobody knew what was happening. five days without a break we were terrified. and there was no communication only tanks all around us we came out to find georgian democracy in our streets. that any one of us could have left straight away but we knew that our first duty was to defend our homeland now that we've had peace since two thousand and one of the places reviving and coming back to normal suffered since april twentieth twelve i've been the president of the republic of south ossetia i'm very pleased to see that all people are so positive about building and strengthening our country's state. we live in a city and we love it everyone loves his homeland right you know we didn't expect to live through five years of such peace and quiet is good there is no war.
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and i witnessed a brutal attacks on kurdish civilians in syria tells our to you what's happening. by radical. to all foreign ministers from russia and the us saw such a search for solutions to the syrian violence in the first meeting since the diplomatic friction over n.s.a. leaker edward snowden. and the recent arab spring will go in democratic. in the arab world more than two yes after the uprisings.
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