on and gives ten and the steps they're currently taking secure their territory and protect it. i also told him about our experience experience so withdrawing troops from afghanistan what we did prior to withdrawing our troops it's how we train military personnel police force how we built schools and. everything else even though this did not less theory long. after we would through of course we also talked about syria and all the matters related to syria. i would say that our approach is our understanding. has been presented in much detail by mr lever of. we agree. of course. just like many others.

in the it is time for us to pay. attention to forced internal this migration you know that some of the liberators here are tories people go back there in their houses are destroyed they don't have infrastructure they don't have medical care they don't have food and we believe that we need to pay serious attention to this issue and. there is a large number of such people inside the country compared to those around the borders around the perimeter in addition you have all sorts of fred threats that are always present in the war zones. there were shells and bombs that didn't explode there are mines minefields and of course all of that needs to be taken care

off the border you say including the un. commissioner for refugees in the us and he's efforts and we also talked about possibilities for the military cost to ration and we have a. lot of plans for twenty three thousand and twenty fourteen years after that. we would like. to. make the practical part of this work more dynamic i'm talking about maneuvers and exercises. currently. we have. on t.v. is the sole trainings and navy exercises that we carry out together in the future we would like to have more joint exercises and we would also like to get other branches of the military involved so basically that so leashes that we

covered mainly thank you. question from the russian speaking channel of our t.v. . here mike doesn't work. yes. used to working now and i see what your stroke is probably proof of a bit of will because the person just like a pov seemed very you have to keep it close. to you at your talks today did you talk about edward snowden which caused a lot to screw up his visit to moscow and do you agree with what the u.s. partners say that after this decision by obama the process over the setting is on the verge of a new cold war thinking of because you know we'll just told you with the defense minister about our work with them mr kerry and mr hague and the oldest

indicates that there is no to cold war we have very close partnership going on in a very good potential for strengthening its situation with snowden is in that case it is just like it or photographers here they are waiting for us. to do something strange like. she said or do something of a popularity in this is all you see with mr lavrov sneezing are scratching his head when they go to that would be a good picture of what has been happening here we're going to situation with edward snowden is a minor detail how leaders have presented our position with the president and the head of the migration service what we did is fully warding to russian laws and international law and we could not have acted otherwise

specifically also because we don't have an agreement on the extradition is with the u.s. this subject to snowden was mentioned today you very briefly and yes has a small episode. that is rather unpleasant of course and we understand that this is an emotional issue but this is a small at peace so that will not and should not undermine our common agenda. we have to face new threads and you know risks ensure a strategic stability you hold that so i don't see any reasons after the meeting we had today to say that our relationship has been said is that this summit has been delayed. the media says it's has been canceled but that's are on the u.s. has postponed this summit and i'm sure that the invitation which is still open will be later used by president obama. will produce

news my question is to both ministers. worse after the talks you had to do the what would you would have been above the level of trust between russia and the u.s. at this point you know what you make of this speaking about it. just put it in the military technical cooperation in twenty fourteen and diplomatic contacts again in twenty fourteen ok i can reply very briefly as far as diplomatic contacts are concerned. ah long history our relationship with john kerry going back to the time when he was senator this is a professional relationship based on respect soit believe that we have the necessary level of trust and the meeting we had to do is just another confirmation of this fact but you mentioned the military aspect also saw mr sze goo can add

a few words well this was my first meeting. with my come to part. prior to that we had a telephone conversation we had several telephone conversations. but i didn't feel anything different as far as corporation with russia is concerned military cooperation. we also talked about a very promising area for our copper ration we have agreed. that we will step up our contacts. at the level of deputy ministers miller and ton of and we have agreed to set up a series of media conferences between the two ministers we have also agreed to consider in the workout the detailed plan for twenty of fourteen. so if there was a change i would say it was

a positive change. we don't see. any. threats or anything to go at least myself i did not feel like. there is some risk or regarding our future dialogue. when talking about military cooperation. i wouldn't say that there is any said back or anything like that quite on the contrary i think that there is soon. very soon we will be able to demonstrate that mr lever off wrote a few words for me in the head. we invited our u.s.

friends to participate in our tent by a competition next year and they accepted their invitation. just like our retail colleagues they said they would definitely come and they say they want to win this competition. c.b.s. . a question from c.b.s. . see forgive me in english class answer south in english and all that. pretty well. excuse me no throw solutions. for you which could be interpreted doesn't doesn't feel you are going to be interpreted doesn't mean this is a kid. president obama said that russia is trapped in

a cold war mentality and the relationship is stuck because of what is your response since this trip to september is not viewed as a good use of the president's time clearly edward snowden is impacting the us russian relationship so is it worth handing him over to help improve that. you know have to be bound by legal obligations. as regards with snowden. the world's. international. by the way i. should say in good form of it that there is an international covenant on political the civil rights of mine turned sixty four. reached the united states promoted at the. negotiating.

because. that information through the freedom of information is absolutely necessary but it must be limited in certain cases including public health something girls and the reasons of state security. when this international covenant of political and civil rights was ratified by the united states the united states made this statement which is part of the ratification package saying that the united states does not accept any limitations any exemptions from the freedom of information including the limitations. motivated by references to the interests of the rich. that's that's what we have an all hands i said on the record that edward snowden did not overshadow it

did not know i would discussions it was mentioned as a fact which recover no offense but the main discussion was about the gender which of huge interest of the united states to the russian federation and to the entire world. and. to say that this particular instance is a good reason for gratian in a good relationship i believe is not the place. john kerry became secretary of state and we met for the first time. we had a general discussion of how we are going to proceed in our relationship and they remember very well what you said when we were saying goodbye he said well i believe that we can make a difference in the russian american elections let's. act as adults and that's what we're trying to do because if. small

incidents. become an impediment to every single. i think it would be it would be very wrong politics and the wrong policies. for the lot of. the russians you know who we believe war and zulu in the united states or by the united states and the third countries in violation of the cons to look on the bench and the violation of the treaty on. legal systems between us and the united states and there are dozens of such people and where the nature of this case will make a boy and we keep making the buoyant but when the others say that unless you act as we please we would not talk to you about afghanistan that. missile defense about anything else. life is much more complicated than just.

somebody presenting an individual case as make the breakthrough for everyone. if you completely. i would like to go back to the subjects you already talked about specifically missile defense that you mentioned concerns that a minister surely has expressed towards you americans think about our concerns but be prepared to meet our concerns in the alleviate this tension and my second question is related to military contacts it is wonderful that they accepted our invitation to participate in a tank by a competition us will they bring their own tanks. because. they're not that good they may get stuck somewhere with their tanks

or will they use our tanks. and also did you know. them to take part in the west twenty thirteen military exercise maybe you could reveal some other details of this military operation it's very interesting. let me start with the last part of your question we did invite them to the west twenty thirteen exercise. at least they will send some representatives. the u.s. army will send some representatives. they are interested and they accepted our invitation issues. in the future we expect that we will also invite them to other exercises at least we will have some shares some representatives over we have

a lot of military exercises in russia you know that we are now also staging sudden injury eels. based on the surprise commanded by the supreme commander in chief and i think this is another step towards. building confidence that this is not because we are planning to go to war with somebody else or we're sending a signal or threatening somebody know this is just to check if our troops are combat ready to use identify some weak spots and maybe improve something as far as tanks are concerned. yes i hope this will being new sport tent biathlon that's our hope whether they will bring their own tanks so they will use russian tanks i don't know at this point. the plan is

that they will use all parties will use their tanks but in the future we would like the u.s. senate to leave to buy our tanks. now to missile defense actually i've already explained to you our concerns this is truly a dialogue this is not theirs and log between the death people we do hear each other. and we have. regular meetings between mr miller and mr on ton of deputy ministers who warring charge of these area specifically. and they constantly talk about all those concerns. that russia has and we hope that our american partners will hear a set and accommodate. the costs as regards those concerns.

currently. we're at the good stage in our dialogue i would say so we hope this positive trend will continue last question from c.n.n. . given it's such eloquence i will speak in russian first and then i will switch to english if i may. understand that you did discuss syria is there any reason at this point that we should believe that geneva there's a world that will never happen to you you and secretary kerry talking about it for a long time but it seems very very unlikely that it will happen did you make any type of is there any hope that this can result from a realistic well it's a lever that we russia relive or that what we can do that i will sell through the

governments on the grill could have that they are going to send a delegation without any preconditions then to work through implementing geneva one communique of journalist we're still waiting for the opposition to do so that's where it comes. john kerry assured the opposition would be persuaded to come to geneva to result any preconditions on the basis of reaching agreement with the government in the line because in your community over thirty years journalist. on the issue but. let's take a couple more questions. thank you mr clapper off did the president's cancellation of the some. how did it affect today's meetings in other words did it make them more difficult or as your defense minister just suggested going away at them or lead to more urgency. well i would say that

did not have any negative effect and once again i would like to correct you when you say that the meeting was cancelled there known some and said just bold and that's what was going to them to us during their stupid last two meeting. i would also say that we went through. the deliverables reach war which are being pretty and most of which have been to be at the ready for the presidential consideration including a basic general statement on but lots of relations including a statement on boosting the economic and investment corporation and that wasn't visits that are still in the book when president obama is in moscow that would be a business community meeting the result a statement on fighting the. drug trafficking. and agreements or.

so that activity is a national center is to reduce the threat. and i didn't on corporation and scientific research in nuclear and there are areas. and. quite a number of arrangements which would also be presented to the attention of the presidents including the report of the presidential commission and all of its twenty some friend to some working groups. i would also recall that the president's meet met even look. in the northern island. and as they also met last year in the last couple. president putin suggested to pay more attention to the people the people called civil society skilled duration including moving towards a visa free regime and we were expecting and still expect that the next meeting of

the two presidents there could be a decision to start you know the negotiations arrive at the visa free regime so the agenda is very early and because of this meeting of two plus two and we are concentrating on the specifics not on what some people try to make. the media headlines. but you don't think agreements. ok well you can watch the first fifty minutes or so of media conference there are foreign minister sergei lavrov and relief and synchronicity sure you had earlier been speaking to secretary say their counterparts john kerry and defense secretary chuck hagel who just recap for a minute or two if you've only just joined us some some of the highlights of what they talked about they discussed syria of course with moscow and washington trying to work together to broker an international peace conference on the conflict there european missile defense also on the agenda with russia and the u.s.

still holds over the system which moscow considers a threat to security the children of afghanistan as well the u.s. thank moscow for providing the transit of nato supplies to the war zone across russian territory this is also touched upon the iranian and korean nuclear programs agreed to work together to bring about a diplomatic solution to those issues when questions about the recent slump of relations that was on everyone's lips of course between moscow and washington circle of rob said there is no new cold war between the two countries at the point that and of course edward snowden is burning up and so it did the foreign minister said the issue is of course emotional but should not undermine the common interests and called cooperation between russia and the u.s. lavrov added that the decision to grant snowden asylum was made in accordance with russian and international laws of the military so that soldier says well they agreed to step up the contract contacts between the defense ministries with defense ministers saying that they've are that he only saw positive changes he will later

be crossing to a correspondent going if you can for more of my she's in washington d.c. as well our washington correspondent of course if you still schools in the. take a look at some of the big stories tonight now could soon try to report attacks by radical islamists in syria are in danger of being abducted or killed that's what an eyewitness to an assault has told us at r.t. the kurdish minority in northeastern syria has reportedly been injuring horrific attacks by al qaeda linked groups for around three weeks now our correspondent in the region a real nigga lishka reports. our ticket is getting new details horrifying details from the eyewitnesses who happened to be in the area those details are extremely hard to come by because of the essential information and physical blockade which has been put up against the rest of the world by the extremists who are permeating the kurdish areas and towns in the northeastern syrian provinces now while we do get to manage to speak to. what is happening in this region we hear truly.

this was during the holy month of ramadan the people were preparing food the militant started shooting everyone the streets become should young men and started with knives. we tried to tell them we were also muslims. the rebels. money. then they started losing. people. he was killed and me and my brother. we were lucky to escape to a refugee camp. united nations investigators are on the ground right now trying to piece together whether earlier reports of some four hundred people being killed in cold blood are indeed true the un has said that if indeed those reports have any basis in reality that this amounts to a war crime nevertheless this is doesn't seem to get any better even though it does

get more coverage at this point the problem is like i said it's a lack of communication it's the lack of opportunity for people who are inside the kurdish towns and villages to reach out to the world because they are essentially fearful to come out on the street where extremist groups are roaming the cities and towns and of course the reporters or any other journalists type people who are trying to get into the areas again they cannot get through because of the extremely dangerous situation so of course the situation doesn't seem to get any better and. something bad's able to bash the walls he is definitely becoming more and more alarmed about. their reporting the world must quote defend the kurds for a massacre and ethnic cleansing end quote that is the plea from kurdish campaigners who is seeking urgent protection from the international community now at the peace in kurdistan activists are asking the united nations as well as the u.s. and the e.u. to act now to stop what they call brutal massacres happening there also demanding

that western powers stop sending weapons to groups in syria that are using them to attack civilians to commit war crimes the statement goes on to say as well to call for a probe into turkey's role in fueling the conflict in the kurdish areas of syria kurdish politician has sat mohammed ali thinks the support that the syrian rebels are receiving from aboard is the main cause of his people's plight right now. all of this is happening because the rebels have been on from abroad by countries that do not want democracy and peace and syria turkey in the gulf monarchies are arming these terrorists meanwhile western countries are turning a blind eye to all those they're ignoring the atrocities being committed against the kurds we're calling on the west to stop supporting the rebels and to assist us otherwise these extremist forces could eventually turn against their backers while washington is to wavering over whether or not to provide lethal aid to the rebel forces in syria i spoke to the director of the institute for policy studies phyllis

bennis she says it's clear where those weapons would eventually end up if it happens. despite all of the assurances of the various representatives of the free syrian army or the national syrian council who say well we'll make sure they don't get in their hands because we'll keep receipts i'm sorry but receipts aren't going to make it when one force has the capacity militarily to overcome the other force they can't make that kind of a guarantee that they won't fall into those hands it's been true for quite a while that the most powerful militarily of the opposition forces have been the islamist forces allied consciously of their own choice with al-qaeda certainly there will be challenges for the west if there is another permanent stronghold of al qaeda someplace like syria and the danger of al qaeda or other unaccountable forces who have no commitment to international law getting control of weapons of mass destruction that may exist inside inside syria such as chemical weapons that

would be disastrous for the spanish the next cross-talk to double standards of a nuclear threat so to speak in half an hour with another news up. everyone respects a promise written in stone promises written on the internet well they're a bit more flexible and a lot easier to embrace obama made a lot of promises as a candidate on his site change talk golf including some about protecting whistle blowers and obama said that we need to empower federal employees as watchdogs and that he would strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers works both waste fraud and abuse of authority and government but strangely possibly coincidentally two days after the first revelation of government spying by still did these promises of the change dot gov site were taken down if this is there are just some odd cohen.