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grant itself at this point so if the prospect of this bugs you out to join me and let's break the sets. have you walked down the street and suddenly been stopped by police for no apparent reason not only stopped but patted down your belongings search for drugs or weapons it was exactly the experience for nearly five million new yorkers who over the last decade have been randomly stopped on the street and searched by officers of the stop and frisk program and now after ten weeks of legal debates in a class action lawsuit federal judges finally ruled this program to be unconstitutional the judge ruled on nineteen different stops that were made without reasonable suspicion citing testimony from when it suits you say they were targeted because of their race alone and while mayor bloomberg and white p.d. commissioner kelly both tell the program as being the reason crime is in a forty year low in the city others argue that it's nothing more than
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a racial profiling scheme designed to criminalize new york's minority populations so does really mean the program will stop to discuss this more in depth i'm joined by shah had but tar executive director of the bill of rights defense committee thank you so much for coming on thanks for having me on or so before we get to the ruling let's talk about the program according to mayor bloomberg and commissioner kelly this was the result of the forty year crime drop. did it work that was this the program's doing the drop in crime in america but it certainly didn't relate to the spike in the profiling was in two thousand and nine and that's well after the reduction in crime in new york aside from whether or not it worked what we learned today from the judicial decision is that it was a profound abuse of the constitutional rights of new yorkers in multiple dimensions their fourth amendment rights to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures the fourteenth amendment right against racial profiling and racial discrimination were both abused wantonly by the new york city police department for years no doubt
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and you can you break out some statistics that all of the percentage of minorities that were actually stopped and there's that other people out. it's striking that in new york city something on the order of eighty four percent of the stops were african-americans and latinos despite each group together comprising only fifty percent of the city's population there were more african-american stopped in the city of new york than live in the city which is particularly striking you got to work at that you know the n.y.p.d. was waging a war on the people of new york and beyond even the floyd case was specific to the stop and frisk issues but remember the n.y.p.d. surveillance unit was invading jurisdictions as far away as connecticut and massachusetts right without the authorization of those jurisdictions of course on muslim communities in new jersey as well so you're saying that there was actually no you know even if there was a correlation it's completely erroneous because it's a complete violation of civil liberties so it's just right it's also just they're picking out one year when really this is a decade long program we're talking about your constitutional rights are not contingent on the effectiveness of
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a government program private exactly did you agree with the judge's ruling or do you think it went far enough i certainly think that the judge ruled the right way on the claims that were brought before her but unfortunately there are issues with the n.y.p.d. that weren't included in the case particularly because this case was narrowly denominated about the stop and frisk issues and just expand what we mean there stop and frisk means for twenty five percent of the innocent new yorkers who were stopped by the n.y.p.d. they also were the victims of force used by the n.y.p.d. sore talking about innocent people not just stopped and patted down but in many cases beat up right and so this and these are innocent people so it's much more than just the word stop and frisk even convey but beyond even that now the associated press one of you would surprise for reporting on the n.y.p.d. surveillance and that wasn't even in the suit so i think the judge's ruling was a good ruling on the case but the case didn't present all the issues that the n.y.p.d. has and the last thing i'll just say there is there is a bill pending before the city council of new york actually the city council has voted for it mayor bloomberg is trying to resist the community safety act which
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would impose an inspector general on the n.y.p.d. for the first time it would impose certain. profiling restrictions in addition to race also according to gender expression and housing status so there are other issues with the n.y.p.d. the included in the lawsuit but even with this new reform or oversight i mean you can really is that really enough when a lot of these people have preconceived bias against these minority populations i mean is that really enough to if this program isn't ending once and for all no doubt no that's a great question to raise and i think you're absolutely right you know the was a prior case by the center for constitutional rights which won today's case i believe it was decided in two thousand and three it also the n.y.p.d. was on the verge of ruling there by a judge and it agreed in a consent decree to adopt certain changes to its policies all of which seem to go up in thin air subsequently that's what gave rise to this suit so is that enough who knows we do know that an independent court monitor is being appointed and that will at least give someone outside the n.y.p.d. the opportunity to enforce the judge's decision but i do agree with you the rubber
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the proof is in the putting it will see when the rubber hits the road whether or not this lawsuit transit to be translates into meaningful and as you said i mean we just said there's one thousand cases but what about all the other hundreds if not thousands of people who've been victimized i mean what where's the recourse for them i really can't help but wonder that but also try to i mean in light of all the n.y.p.d. criminal wrongdoing they're almost given expansions ray kelly is going over and consulting with jean kwan in oakland about how they can fight crime there i mean it's just a potential secretary they are going to fire someone really cared and wanted to see what you thought about kind of getting awarded and reward for perpetuating this kind of criminality across the city absolutely i hope that the ruling actually flip some of that right because what it indicates is that ray kelly while serving as the police commissioner of the n.y.p.d. has been responsible for pervasive systemic and but for the court ongoing civil rights violations i do hope that if nothing else this closes the door on talk of
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his potentially coming to washington to lead us because he has absolutely no business serving in the federal government it does. also saying that this has implications for bloomberg political legacy right his last act as a mayor seems to be trying to resist the effort to restore accountability to the n.y.p.d. the judge's decision takes it out of his hands and is a final repudiation by an impartial arbiter that no this is not in fact ok you still have to protect and serve and even if you are going to claim law enforcement effectiveness or if you are going to claim a reduction in crime it has to still comply with the constitution and i think this is very important in terms of resetting the record despite it having been contrived and distorted by people like ray kelly and michael bloomberg. in light of all their greed is overreach of the n.y.p.d. they're still trying to grasp at straws and still defend this program we're just so obviously wrong thank you so much for coming on breaking down where it stands and where we can go ahead retire bill of rights defense committee appreciate your time they stop me on.
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i. as the police force across the country becomes more militarized don with new toys it seems like every day i am hearing about cops gone wild like in austin texas where a police officer just shot and killed a man believed to be involved in a bank robbery however became instantly clear that the man shot was not the suspect officers were looking for since dozens of witnesses describe the assailant as an older cock asian male which is a far cry from the profile of the young african-american shot because of this obvious criminal error the community quickly mobilized to protest against the austin p.d.'s racial profiling forcing the department of justice to step in for an investigation but get this only three days after the d.o.j. cleared the austin p.d. of any wrongdoing the department shot and killed another young african-american man but guys police across the country are just shooting people for being black on
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a friday afternoon these days you may want to watch your mouth. kind of a cop because it might cost you your life or certainly the case for homs kevin ariano are ya know a twenty two year old homeless resident of santa ana california was recently followed by a police officer into a nearby restaurant and fatally shot in the chest check out what someone caught on video. you. see. the school. board. right why did the officer shoot ariano one an exclusive interview with k. cal nine in l.a. and eye witness describe the harrowing details that forced the cops shoot to kill. the man then approach that exit at the restaurant and as he was exiting the
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restaurant you say what are you going to do but then about a second later. she shot him in the chest wait what the guy simply called the cop that you were apparently swearing is now grounds to be executed needless to say the victim's family was horrified his niece said i believe they should have tase to hit him with a baton anything but not shot him to kill him yes there are many other options that an officer has to subdue a suspect other than using deadly force regardless of oftentimes these less than lethal tactics that are abuse the most which brings me to the case of israel hernandez an eighteen year old honor student an artist who was caught spray painting an old store front when police confronted her and as he did what most teenagers probably would do and he ran so they make the arrest the officers he's tim and his hernandez laid on the ground witnesses say that the officers were actually celebrating the catch apparently not realizing the victim had tragically
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died as a result check out these bystanders had to say about what they witnessed. i hear the officers on the radio spanish milling custody and then i go to the scene where they had him by the bank and he was just barely clinging motionless and this cops around the clapping like me graduating and they were high five each other and. they were just acting like it was nothing and i actually heard by one of the cops saying oh you should've seen you should've seen you know you should see how he stiffened up and we teased him and stuff like. this past weekend hundreds of people attended a rally in honor of hernandez in his hometown demanding accountability for his on the warrant the death although a report from the medical examiner's office is still pending about how the taser killed him one thing is clear the taser is the cause of death and sadly it's far from an isolated incident you recently reported at least five hundred forty one
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taser related deaths have occurred since two thousand and one it's a stat that should make us to reconsider how overuse these so-called non lethal or less than lethal weapons actually are really though whether it be a taser or gun this is about the need for trigger happy cops to face accountability and not just a demotion or paid leave i'm talking about serving a hard time just the way any other person would because kellin someone was dressed in blue shouldn't put you above the law. stick around you guys still to come i'll talk about the peace talks between israel and palestine should we expect them to resolve stick around to find out. wealthy british style it's time to.
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for your media project c.e.o. don carty. little. a little more of. her she's going to be like. oh it's been sixty five years of a struggle that has yet to find any resolve israeli palestinian conflict one that over the years has frequently been shaped by the role of the us and since nine hundred sixty seven almost every president has made an attempt at brokering peace between the two countries and now five years into his presidency obama's attempting to do the same recently his administration announced that secretary of state john
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kerry convinced israeli and palestinian authorities to sit back down at the go shopping table in hopes to work out a comprehensive peace agreement within nine months of a peace talks just days away israel might already be derailing them with the announcement of the construction of twelve one hundred new settlement units in the west bank a move that's likely to reinforce doubts over israel's commitment to peace so are these peace talks over for they've even begun and given this country's close allegiance with israel will the u.s. be able to moderate them fairly talk about all that and more i spoke earlier with norman finkelstein activist political scientist and author of knowing too much why the american jewish romance with israel is coming to an end. i first asked him why he thinks the obama administration is finally attempting peace talks after five years and has been to say most importantly number one the arab world is shattered it's been since the so beginning of the so-called arab spring and many of
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the arab states critical arab states like saudi arabia are willing to do basically whatever united states tells them to do number two after the overthrow of the muslim brotherhood in egypt possible its principal ally and hamas has been the main obstacle to the powers that are already in the main opposition through a so he's trying to be number three in the powers that be in people who themselves are the silent despair in the press and the whole of the sons now more than ever a number for the powers to an affair which grows from one economic crisis to the next and is no more and throw more economically dependent on the united states or so it would go slow or significant changes there is the hope in the part of the obama administration and secretary of state kerry agreed to taylor that they
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can use fairly terms and settlement obama will be able to claim some sort of achievement in his otherwise failed presidency and secretary of state kerry can claim a significant achievement. right and you've said that in the past is that the similar initiatives for peace talks have happen at the height the van popularity in certain presidential cabinets so that could also be the explanation of why the time is right now just days after announcing the start of peace talks israeli government okayed the construction of twelve one hundred new settlements interests in the west bank so norman how can the peace process be taken seriously at all if israel won't make a concession to halt. building fellman. because that's a far cry remember these really turns the result when they are israel has made clear all right and over again that it's the bottom line is once approximately nine point five percent of the west bank one who calls the main some and including east
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jerusalem and most of the new settlements of their right now planning from below are in the areas of the settlement blocks if israel gets its way and the annex the nine point five percent of the less than there won't remain anything what you might call a meaningful palestinian state the seven blocks bisect in tricep the west bank millions are some of the best most our will soil in the west bank they have absorbed the critical water resources they have assumed are the urban center of east jerusalem which is the heart of how to me an economic life the greater jerusalem triangle which goes from east jerusalem to ramallah and bethlehem you know accounts for forty percent of the economic life in the west bank so if and when israel absorbs their and center meester it's alone and there's nothing left
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for those of their terms in the conflict to leave the palestinians basically in indian reservation or in terms of south africa are. back to stand now and i hope you know it's in the part of the us and israel know that they can impose that settlement in the house the needs this the palace the needs and so we will israel has claimed that's going to make a concession of releasing one hundred palestinian prisoners i mean how are palestinians rethinking that is that supposed to be good enough. well the first announcement came in the first twenty six through snows of those first twenty six prisoners a large number of men were in jail for say twenty years and they were scheduled to be released a month from today so this new prisoner released saying these prisoners about one month of twenty years in prison that's literally the case that you go through the prison there is one by one but let's say for argument's sake. and gender and
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gender when. prisoner releases and not. on the basic quid pro quo israel says the powers that we will give you one hundred prisoners and in exchange we're taking ten percent of your country. then you have to decide for yourself is that a fair exchange a good point when you pose it that way especially when they have thousands upon thousands of prisoners from palestine for some really small level crimes here one out of palestine has been recognized as a nonmember state by the un does that give them any more leverage at the negotiating table. oh probably those who go when they think it and they go shinto you go there you have one already in the balance feel about your community feel the arms or can be the battlefield of public opinion the only way the palestinians will
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achieve anything is the way and the other group in the world and other nation people countries achieved anything and organizing its population to resist. i'm an atheist i'm a resolute atheist still believe strongly in the adage god helps those who help themselves you're not going to get everything from me it's really not going to get anything. unless you force them to who in order to extract concessions and the power is real power than the ends in the so called palestinian negotiator it's you go get anything from the negotiating table that they have one through mass action mass insistence on mobilization in calhoun knows nation of international public opinion so for extract concessions. right i mean so how can we expect it to be moderated fairly at all especially given that israel the us its
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closest ally and receive three billion dollars of aid every year i mean really it is anything any done that it is beyond just superficial here. because they were forced to be a basic big. time obama will call them powerless then you know. if you don't come negotiate and your bills and the absence of those subsidies cost in authority knew there would be liable to being overthrown because that lives by the violence for her to the monies who. the public sector in a powerless. time and so. because they were ordered to go there the more interesting question and i don't mean it's the sea she sleep is exactly what are they going to talk about because the cost of the eggs no exactly with. the
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counsellor are the palestinians know perfectly well what israel's bottom line as you pointed out there in the gosh asians negotiations you can go sure. you know exactly what the rules are. you know exactly where the bottom line is so really perplexing question so these so-called peace talks is the exactly i'm going to talk about. yeah i mean it exactly it is hit on the head right there and i wanted to talk about the perception of this issue norm and i think that stifling a lot of understanding and a lot of consciousness around the world especially here america and light of sponsoring israeli government with our tax dollars the language that used to control the narrative in your parents are holocaust survivors and you actually said that the memory of the holocaust is exploited as an ideological weapon as one if you could talk about what you meant by that and how that's attorney understanding
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of this whole situation. of the nazi holocaust and. the well for of be or has the critical work. in sharm to justify where those most importantly it is claims to not see how close and unique that no one has suffered in history of human kindness of her compared to what the jews endured. and then follows from that according to these relatives because to suffer abuse you need you can't you can't of israel israel and you you can't apply. the same moral code. legal standards that apply to any other people and so far in southall even though it is no repeatedly commits gross human rights violations convince gross. crimes under international law
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including to believe she's a work crime under the statutes of the international criminal court or whenever you try to call israel to account for the human rights violations a war crimes crimes against humanity then the minutes or the immediately does it's an invokes the nazi holocaust and says that. you can't apply to us the same standards the same moral standards and same legal standards because of what i was using door would work to which was allegedly unique and then the same thing comes up for example on kyra negotiations with iran when for example the new. you were representing the united states when she was testifying before congress and she thought about israel's attitude towards iran she says well of course the kaffir get the how we only so you know how close means in israel's and fire to newt to
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snake in center around but that's the thinking it's just the know it all purpose utility i don't for israel not to be vote and every critic critical juncture whether to exonerated of every real war crimes crimes against humanity the ohio elations in human rights one whether it's used as a club in your absence. and silence criticism of once for months we're making an experimental that's rather costly and from the us desire to wage war on its neighbors it's quite unfortunate norman because it really deters a logical rational debate about this issue in the public discourse i really appreciate you calling it out speaking out author activist norman finkelstein really appreciate your time and your in flight. president you see so far how do you
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