you know obama just told the public that he wants more oversight in the agency's data collection program very few people are taking him at his word and one of those skeptics is former n.s.a. and cia director michael hayden who had this to say on face the nation. president is trying to take some steps to make the american people more comfortable about what it is we're doing that's going to be hard because frankly some steps to make americans more comfortable well actually make americans less safe great so not only is and mean unwarranted surveillance unlikely but the scope of the secret spying is only expected to grow in argues that another terrorist attack on the u.s. is likely to happen and when it does we should expect the n.s.a.'s data collection tools to be used even more aggressively as if it isn't aggressive enough already guys i really don't put more power the n.s.a. can really grant itself at this point so the prospect of this bugs you out to join me and let's break the set.

have you ever walked down the street and suddenly been stopped by police for no apparent reason not only stopped but patted down your belongings search for drugs or weapons was exactly the experience for nearly five million new yorkers who over the last decade have been randomly stopped on the street and searched by officers of the stop and frisk program and now after ten weeks of legal debates in a class action lawsuit federal judges finally ruled this program to be unconstitutional the judge ruled on nineteen different stops that were made without reasonable suspicion citing testimony from when it suits you say they were targeted because of their race alone and while mayor bloomberg and my p.d. commissioner kelly both tell the program as being the reason crime is a forty year low in the city others argue that it's nothing more than a racial profiling scheme designed to criminalize new york's minority populations

so does really mean the program will stop to discuss this more in depth i'm joined by shah had the tar executive director of the bill of rights defense committee thank you so much for coming on thanks for having me on or so before we get to the ruling let's talk about the program according to mayor bloomberg and commissioner kelly this was the result of the forty year crime drop. did it work is that there was this the program's doing the drop in crime in america but it certainly didn't relate to the spike in the profiling was in two thousand and nine and that's well after the reduction in crime in new york aside from whether or not it works what we learned today from the judicial decision is that it was a profound abuse of the constitutional rights of new yorkers in multiple dimensions their fourth amendment rights to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures the fourteenth amendment right against racial profiling and racial discrimination were both abused wantonly by the new york city police department for years no doubt and can you break out some statistics at all of the percentage of minorities that were actually stopping cars that other people. it's striking that in new york city

something on the order of eighty four percent of the stops were african-americans and latinos despite each group together comprising only fifty percent of the city's population there were more african-american stopped in the city of new york then lived in the city which is particularly striking you got to work at that you know the n.y.p.d. was waging a war on the people of new york and beyond even the floyd case was specific to the stop and frisk issues but remember the n.y.p.d. surveillance unit was invading jurisdictions as far away as connecticut and massachusetts right without the authorization of those jurisdictions on muslim communities in new jersey as well so you're saying that there was actually no you know even if there was a correlation it's completely erroneous because it's a complete violation of civil liberties so it's just it's also just they're picking out one year when really this is a decade long program we're talking about your constitutional rights are not contingent on the effectiveness of a government program prayed exactly did you agree with the judge's ruling or do you think it went far enough i certainly think that the judge ruled the right way on

the claims that were brought before her but unfortunately there are issues with the n.y.p.d. that weren't included in the case particularly because this case was narrowly denominated about the stop and frisk issues and just expand what we mean there stop and frisk means for twenty five percent of the innocent new yorkers who were stopped by the n.y.p.d. they also were the victims of force used by the n.y.p.d. sore talking about innocent people not just stopped and patted down but in many cases beat up right and so this and these are innocent people so it's much more than just the word stop and frisk even convey but beyond even that now the associated press one of you would surprise for reporting on the n.y.p.d. surveillance and that wasn't even in the suit so i think the judge's ruling was a good ruling on the case but the case didn't present all the issues that the n.y.p.d. has and the last thing i'll just say there is there is a bill pending before the city council of new york actually the city council has voted for it mayor bloomberg is trying to resist the community safety act which would impose an inspector general on the n.y.p.d. for the first time it would impose certain. profiling restrictions in addition to

race also according to gender expression and housing status so there are other issues with the n.y.p.d. the included in the lawsuit but even with this new reform or oversight i mean can we really is that really enough when a lot of these people have preconceived bias against these minority populations i mean is that really enough to if this program isn't ending once and for all no doubt no that's a great question to raise and i think you're absolutely right you know the was a prior case by the center for constitutional rights which won today's case i believe it was decided in two thousand and three it also the n.y.p.d. was on the verge of ruling there by a judge and it agreed in a consent decree to adopt certain changes to its policies all of which seem to go up in thin air subsequently that's what gave rise to the suit so is that enough who knows we do know that an independent court monitor is being appointed and that will at least give someone outside the n.y.p.d. the opportunity to enforce the judge's decision but i do agree with you the rubber the proof is in the putting it will see when the rubber hits the road whether or not this lawsuit transit to be translates into meaningful and as you said i mean we

just said there's one thousand cases but what about all the other hundreds if not thousands of people who've been victimized i mean what where's the recourse for them i really can't help but wonder that but also try to i mean in light of all the n.y.p.d. criminal wrongdoing they're almost given expansions ray kelly is going over and consulting with jean kwan in oakland about how they can fight crime there i mean it's been all day and it's a potential secretary they are going to fire is going to be cured i wanted to see what you thought about kind of did you know were rewarded for perpetuating this kind of criminality across the city absolutely i hope that the ruling actually flip some of that right because what it indicates is that ray kelly while serving as the police commissioner of the n.y.p.d. has been responsible for previous of systemic and but for the court ongoing civil rights violations i do hope that if nothing else this closes the door on talk of his potentially coming to washington to lead us because he has absolutely no business serving in the federal government does. also seem that this has implications for bloomberg political legacy right his last act as

a mayor seems to be trying to resist the effort to restore accountability to the n.y.p.d. the judge's decision takes it out of his hands and is a final repudiation by an impartial arbiter that no this is not in fact ok you still have to protect and serve and even if you are going to claim law enforcement effectiveness or if you are going to claim a reduction in crime it has to still comply with the constitution and i think this is very important in terms of resetting the record despite it having been contrived and distorted by people like ray kelly and michael bloomberg it just seems like in light of all their greed is overreach of the n.y.p.d. they're still trying to grasp at straws and still defend this program we're just so obviously wrong thank you so much for coming on breaking down where it stands and where we can go ahead with tar bill of rights defense committee appreciate your time they stop me on. i.

as the police force across the country becomes more militarized don with new toys it seems like every day i am hearing about cops gone wild like in austin texas where a police officer just shot and killed a man believed to be involved in a bank robbery however became instantly clear that the man shot was not the suspect officers were looking for since dozens of witnesses describe the assailant as an older car kasian male which is a far cry from the profile of the young african-american shot because of this obvious criminal error the community quickly mobilized to protest against the austin p.d.'s racial profiling forcing the department of justice to step in for an investigation but get this only three days after the d.o.j. cleared the austin p.d. of any wrongdoing the department shot and killed another young african-american man but guys police across the country are just shooting people for being black on a friday afternoon these days you may want to watch your mouth. kind of a cop because it might cost you your life or certainly the case for homs kevin

ariano ariano a twenty two year old homeless resident of santa ana california was recently followed by a police officer into a nearby restaurant and fatally shot in the chest check out with someone caught on video. you. see. the school. board. right why did the officer shoot ariano one an exclusive interview with k. cal nine in l.a. and eye witness describe the harrowing details that forced the cops shoot to kill. the man then approach the exit at the restaurant and as he was exiting the restaurant he said what are you going to do but then about a second later. she shot him in the chest wait what the guy simply called the cop

that you were parents swearing is now grounds to be executed needless to say the victim's family was horrified his niece said i believe they should have tase to hit him with a baton anything but not shot him to kill him yes there are many other options that an officer has to subdue a suspect other than using deadly force regardless of oftentimes these less than lethal tactics that are abuse the most which brings me to the case of israel hernandez an eighteen year old honor student an artist who was caught spray painting an old storefront when police confronted her and as he did what most teenagers probably would do and he ran so they make the arrest the officers he's tim and his hernandez laid on the ground witnesses say that the officers were actually celebrating the catch apparently not realizing the victim had tragically died as a result check out what these bystanders had to say about what they witnessed. i

hear the officers on the radio we got the hispanic male in custody and then i go to the scene where they had him by the bank and he was just barely clinging motionless and this cops around you clapping like you graduating and they were high five each other and. they were just acting like it was nothing that i actually heard but one of the cops saying oh you should've seen you should've seen you know you should see how he stiffened up and we teased him and stuff like. this past weekend hundreds of people attended a rally in honor of hernandez in his hometown demanding accountability for is unwarranted. although a report from the medical examiner's office is still pending about how the taser killed him one thing is clear the taser is the cause of death and sadly it's far from an isolated incident you recently reported that at least five hundred forty one taser related deaths have occurred since two thousand and one it's a stat that should make us to reconsider how overuse these so-called non lethal or

less than lethal weapons actually are really though whether it be a taser or gun this is about the need for trigger happy cops to face accountability and not just a demotion or paid leave i'm talking about serving a hard time just the way any other person would because kellin someone was dressed in blue shouldn't put you above the law. stick around you guys still to come i'll talk about the peace talks between israel and palestine should we expect any resolve stick around to find out. wealthy british something some time to. go. to. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy

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where. are they going to be like. oh it's been sixty five years of a struggle that has yet to find any resolve israeli palestinian conflict one that over the years has frequently been shaped by the role of the us and since nine hundred sixty seven almost every president has made an attempt at brokering peace between the two countries and now five years into his presidency obama's attempting to at the same recently as administration announce that secretary of state john kerry convinced israeli and palestinian authorities to sit back down at the table in hopes to work out a comprehensive peace agreement within nine months of the peace talks just days away israel might already be derailing them with the announcement of the construction of twelve one hundred new settlement units in the west bank a move that's likely to reinforce doubts over israel's commitment to peace so are these peace talks over for they've even begun and given this country's close

allegiance with israel will the u.s. be able to moderate them fairly talk about all that more i spoke earlier with norman finkelstein activist political scientist and author of knowing too much why the american jewish romance with israel is coming to an end i first asked him why he thinks the obama administration is finally attempting peace talks after five years and here's what he had to say most important number one. and so beginning it was so cool there are. many of the arab states are states that saudi arabia are willing to do. them to do number two who have to go over and through all of the muslim brotherhood in egypt possible its principal ally and hamas that's been the main obstacle to the powers that are already in the main opposition through a so he's trying to be number three in the powers that be in people who themselves

are the silent is there in the press and the other side more than ever a number for the house to an affair which grows from one economic crisis to the next and is no more and throw more economically dependent on the united states or so it would go slow or significant changes there is the hope on the part of the obama administration and secretary of state kerry in particular that they can use fairly terms and settlement obama will be able to claim some sort of achievement in his otherwise failed presidency and secretary of state kerry can claim a significant achievement. right and you've said that in the past is that the similar initiatives for peace talks have happen at the height than popularity in certain presidential cabinets so that could also be the explanation of why the time is

right now just days after announcing the start of peace talks israeli government okayed the construction of twelve one hundred new settlements interests in the west bank so norman how can the peace process me taken seriously at all if israel won't make a concession to halt building settlements. because that's. really turns the result and they are it israel has not been clear all right and over again and the bottom line is once approximately nine point five percent of the west bank one who calls the main some to including east jerusalem and most of the new settlements that they are right. no planning from below are in the areas of the settlement blocks if israel gets its way and it's the nine point five percent of the west bank there won't remain anything what you might call a meaningful palestinian state the seven blocks they bisect in tricep the

west bank millions are some of the best most our will soil in the west bank they have absorbed the critical water resources they have a start of the urban center of east jerusalem which is the heart of power than economic life the greater jerusalem triangle which goes from east jerusalem to ramallah and bethlehem you know accounts for forty percent of the economic life in the west bank so if and when israel absorbs there and center in east jerusalem there's nothing left for those are there times in the conflict to leave the palestinians basically an indian reservation or in terms of south africa apartheid years back to stand now and the hope you know is in the part of the u.s. and israel know that they can impose that so in the house the news this the palace the news and so we well israel has claimed that's going to make a concession of releasing one hundred palestinian prisoners i mean how are

palestinians rethinking that is that they get enough. well the first announcement came in the first twenty six through snows of the first twenty six prisoners a large number of men were in jail for say twenty years and they were scheduled to be released a month from today so this new person released say about one month of twenty years in prison that's literally the case and you go through the prisoners one by one but let's say for argument's sake these are authentic and gender and genting when. prisoner releases and not. on the basic quid pro quo is israel says the palestinians we will give you one hundred prisoners and in exchange we're taking ten percent of your country. then you have to decide if the a cell is that

a fair exchange. good point when you oppose it that way especially when they have thousands upon thousands of prisoners from palestine for some really small level crimes here one out of palestine has been recognized as a nonmember state by the un does that give them any more leverage at the negotiating table. oh problem those who go when they think it and they go shooting and you go there you have a ready and the balance the brow of your community feel of arms or can be the battlefield of public opinion the only way the palestinians will achieve anything is the way and the other group in the world and the other nation people who countries achieved anything and organizing its population through this. i'm an atheist i'm a resolute atheist still believe strongly in the adage god helps those who help themselves you're not going to get anything from me it's really not going to get

anything. unless. in order to extract concessions and power it's real power than the ends of the so-called host and you negotiate you're going to get anything from the negotiating table so they have one room and mouse insistence on the mobilization encounter and i was nation of international public opinion so for extract concessions. right i mean so how can we expect it to be moderated fairly at all especially given that israel the us its closest ally and receive three billion dollars of aid every year i mean really it is anything to be done that it is beyond just superficial here. our students are always. there for us to be a basic figure it's a. good time obama all of them plus the new. you don't come negotiate. your bills and the absence. those subsidies

palestinian authority knew there would be liable to be overthrown because. the it's simple and started virtual monies and. the public sector in time and so very well could have negotiated because they were ordered to go there the. question and i don't mean it's the sea she is exactly what are they going to talk about because the cost of the eggs no exactly with. the conflict are the palestinians know perfectly well what israel's bottom line is because as you pointed out there negotiations negotiations you can go sure. you know exactly what rules. you know exactly where the bottom line is so really perplexing question so the so-called peace talks is like exactly are they going to

talk about. yeah i mean it exactly it is head on the head right there and i wanted to talk about the perception of this issue norman is i think that stifling a lot of understanding and a lot of consciousness around the world especially here america in light of a sponsor israeli government with our tax dollars the language that used to control the narrative in your parents are holocaust survivors and you actually said that the memory of the holocaust is exploited as an ideological weapon as one if you could talk about what you meant by that and how to deter any understanding of this whole situation. of the nazi holocaust. the well four of the or has the critical work. and charm to justify words. most importantly it is claims to not see how local aslan's unique that no one has suffered in history of human kindness that are compared to what the

jews endured. and follows from that according to the israel heeds because the sucker if you see me you can't you can't apply to israel and israel and you you can't comply with israel and use the same moral code legal standards that you apply to any other people and so far and southall even though it's no repeatedly commits gross human rights violations commits gross. crimes under international law including the building settlements which is a work crime under the statutes of the international criminal court or whenever you try to call israel to account for the human rights violations a war crimes crimes against humanity that it commits what immediately does it's an invokes the nazi holocaust and says that. you can't apply to us the same

standards the same moral standards and same legal standards because of what was used in dorms europe would work who was allegedly unique and then the same thing comes up for example kyra negotiations with iran when for example the new. un representative from the united states when she was testifying before congress and she thought about israel's attitude towards iran he says well of course the cafe get the how we only so you know how close means in israel's and fire to newt to snake in center around but that's the thinking it's just the all the all purpose utility item for israel the nazi holocaust and the vote and every critic critical juncture whether to exonerated of every real war crimes crimes against humanity and the ohio nations in human rights one whether it's used as

a club you know or. silence criticism from about hundreds we're making a that's rather cross in the sense from the. who are on its neighbors it's quite unfortunate norman because it really deters a logical rational debate about this issue in the public discourse i really appreciate you calling it out speaking out author activist norman finkelstein really appreciate your time and your in flight. president you see so far how do you tube dot com breaking the set issue subscribe to our channel especially recommend ever to check out my talk with lance the hidden myth about when the term conspiracy theory became a tool to shut down any questioning and that's it for us tonight you guys have a great night we'll see you right back here tomorrow break to set all over again.

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