tv [untitled] August 14, 2013 10:30pm-11:01pm EDT
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pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm sure. i'll get back to the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour n.s.a. agents aren't the only ones stealing your data over the past decade private corporations in silicon valley have made billions by selling parts of your digital life off to the highest bidder how is this legal and what we do to stop it and the other day i lost one of the best friends ever the worst part of it all is that his death could have been prevented it could have been prevented if our country gave up its obsession with libertarian top of the list more on that internet still.
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in screwed news on tuesday the justice department announced it was filing an antitrust lawsuit to block the merger of u.s. airways and american airlines that proposed merger which was announced in february would make the combined airline the largest one in the world and according to washington post who plays eighty six percent of u.s. air travel in the hands of four big airlines are here in washington d.c. alone the union of u.s. airways and american airlines would control sixty nine percent of the takeoff and landing slots at reagan national airport but that's not all allowed to go through the merger would cause a massive spike in air fares is the c.b.s. evening news had to say about this last night. the federal government is worried about the impact on consumers it cites examples like a one stop round trip flight from new york to. didn't the american airlines fare
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comes up as one thousand four hundred sixty seven dollars on its merger partner u.s. airways it cost just five hundred seventy five dollars if the two airlines become one the lower fare would disappear that's almost a one thousand dollars jump monopolies are bad for consumers bad for the economy so the justice department in my opinion is right to block the u.s. airways american airlines merger but not everyone is so concerned with protecting consumers or preserving competition in the airline industry i'm joined now by ryan rowdier associate director of technology studies at the competitive enterprise institute rider welcome back thank you nice to see you real competition versus what the market can bear in real competition what you have is multiple players in a marketplace and the price of a particular product is driven down to the point where everybody is working on the thinnest possible profit margin they can in order to compete in monopoly capitalism which is what we have in pretty much all of our major industries now it's what the
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market will bear the various come competitors keep pricing things to the point where consumers stop buying regardless of the profit margins and the profit margins are usually typically huge and so you know right now we have the highest corporate profits in the history of the united states history of the republic what's what's not what what is not wrong about that when the airline industry these high corporate profits that exist elsewhere are nowhere to be found even the most successful airlines are looking at low single digit margins it's not a sustainable industry airfares don't generate enough revenue to cover the very expensive cost of operated airfare as well the only thing that airlines are selling right now they're selling baggage fees they're selling you want your pap to do so and you want to feel their soul and you want to drink to their soul and you want to join the club for selling lots and lots of stuff you yet you want the emergency exit row i mean there's just the airlines have figured out a way to make money on a whole lot of different things and an. isn't it appropriate that we have
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a mark above me is that these are natural monopolies there's only so much so many takeoff and landing slots of various airports there's only so many routes so many airplanes that can be in the in the air at any given moment given the air traffic control system or natural monopoly isn't the obligation of government to say we're going to limit the size of any one of the players so that they don't end up monopolizing the system when you have a natural monopoly share but i dispute your premise that airlines are a natural monopoly only for us airports are controlled three in new york area and one washington throughout the rest of the country any airline the wants slots can get slots if it's willing to put a plane in the air and land likewise the air traffic in this country the airways are not congested with the exception of a few areas the fact is that the four companies that would control between eighty and eighty six percent depending on if you look at revenue or miles that's actually a pretty large number of carriers most foreign countries have nowhere near that number of carriers most foreign countries have nowhere near the population we have
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for the size of the country and i'll give you your point but the flipside of that is if you go for carriers who control sixty seventy eighty ninety percent of my eighty percent market for carriers if they control eighty percent of the market if somebody tries to compete with them which i'm assuming would be your rav your remedy you know hey anybody can start an airline jet blue somebody comes in and tries to compete with them in any particular market they've got deep enough pockets particular when they control eighty percent of the marketplace they can just start dropping prices and they can bleed to cash themselves until they drive those competitors out of this they can try and they certainly have the legacy carriers are not happy the southwest managed to take off and the reason that southwest and jet blue were have been able to create these big markets is because they don't have the legacy costs that the ligonier less hard i mean the legacy carriers when you'll recall when when southwest rolled out there were legacy carriers that were trying to underprice them and they were losing money on the deal on the federal.
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government stepped in and said you are not competitively priced with these people to try and compete with them you are trying to drive them out of business and that's a different thing in this kind of marketplace that can't happen i mean southwest if it wasn't for federal government intervention southwest airlines would not be a business right and i'm get i don't know the situation with jet blue i remember when that was solved was why i'm not aware of any government intervention that said you were pricing your airfares to low in some markets there were there were legacy carriers that were i don't recall that but the key issue with the american u.s. airways merger is that you have delta and united that right now have very competitive global networks those two airlines are well positioned to compete in the future american and u.s. airways are to globally and and for domestic travels to who like to fly globally from time to time people like to pick one or two carriers if they're frequent flyers the problem is that american is in dire financial straits its assets are eight billion dollars less than this liabilities it's struggling to get out of bankruptcy courts always made the situation worse by adding u.s.
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airways well that the combined airline is going to be in better shape that's why the airline pilots' unions and the unions want this deal to happen because they realize that their jobs are at risk if this merger doesn't go through ok ryan good to see you good to see us for dropping by. and the best to the rest of the news in the wake of edward snowden's revelations about the national security agency's spying programs americans are as concerned as ever about the ability of the government to snoop on their private lives the shadowy intelligence agencies aren't the only ones stealing americans information private corporations like google and facebook make billions of dollars in profits every year by selling their users information off to the highest bidder or using it themselves and there's nothing consumers can really do about it. in fact google
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argued in a recent court filing that its customers have no legitimate expectation of privacy in information they voluntarily turn over to third party third party in this case being google the reason google can make this kind of argument is the subject of the new documentary terms and conditions may apply there's a clip from that film's trailer. that's right the top secret door of the world trade center have been contract decisions if however these terms and conditions are valid what if your phone came with these long terms and conditions that well if you use the phone the current employer to get that would be that's the kind of world we're living in anything that's going to get to. three so what can we do to make sure our private data is private let's call it hold back the director of the new film terms and conditions may apply call and welcome to the show oh thanks for having town so when i updated by phone software the other day i agreed to the terms and conditions what i hand over. well you know it's
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different with each company right when you're when you're dealing with an apple or . you're you're really paying for a service there so their motives are a little bit different they're not interested in your data so that they can trade it or they can mine it serve you with ads like a google or a facebook is so that's really the difference between a quote unquote free site and something like apple so apple's real goal in something like this is to protect themselves as much as possible and it's interesting how do you how did you get started in this film you pinpoint the company twice smart is sort of the ancestor of all the information sharing companies that got you started when you know smart was really one of the first companies to betray its users trust you know they went bankrupt and when they went bankrupt they had this idea they thought they would sell their database of all of their users information. whoever the highest bidder was however their
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privacy policy at the time said they wouldn't do that so that opened a debate regarding whether or not companies would actually be beholden to their terms or conditions and privacy policies. so here's a clip from your film this is an austrian law student describing what he found when he obtained a small subset of his own facebook to it's. hard to go through that actually find specific details about a person you know that's super easy because it's pretty i mean we just used the search function the p.d.f. file so you just type in one word say demonstration or sex or political party or something and within a second you find the right information so within a couple of minutes you can figure out what people voted for. psychological problems they have what. all these informations are like really easy to find actually while using that service for such a short time and still have a data file that's bigger than anything and. i don't know stahl's you ever had
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about an average person if in fact you could just do that in large part just from what people like not even necessarily what they post that's pretty private information words that go on facebook. i mean facebook stores it on their servers and they basically create these p.d.f. dossiers that are easily accessible you can go back in time and you can search where someone was on any day you could see who they were hanging out with if they were at a protest for instance you would be able to target them you can also target sexuality really easy using something like that so obviously the things that people post on facebook it's really private stuff and i think most people really only think of their privacy settings as the only form of privacy that's going on there and if they're hiding certain things from other people then they're protected of course we know now that that's not the case. in reality all of this stuff is easily accessible and if we look at what happened today you know this this recent. this
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recent ruling where google comes out and says hey you know what we're we're you know we're in a place right now where we're not trying to hide you know or we're actually using information from the users and this is of course the situation and if you look at that if you look at that case study you'll see that the third party doctrine is what applies universally and this is really what google's pointing at the point in one thousand nine hundred nine case in saying look. if you hand over your information to a third party that third party can do whatever they want with it and it's right there in their terms and conditions it's in facebook's terms and conditions in every terms and conditions you use on one of these free sites so i think that's why google comes out and say something like me and users have no expectation of privacy which is crazy because i don't think that users thought these terms and conditions were actually valid i thought that i think most people looked at terms and conditions and went man these things are pretty benign so we have we have just twenty seconds left is there any basis for for pushing back on this oh absolutely and so we've started
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a website track off and the initial goal right there is to get as many congressmen to see the film as possible because i really don't think the people on capitol hill totally understand how these systems work but ultimately we need control of our data and we need access to our data or your so that's going to be the big change call and hold back thank you so much for being with us and. thank you. coming up our country has an obsession with libertarian capitalism that is literally killing people killing people who should have lived long and happy lives i'll explain in tonight's do take.
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i would rather i asked questions for people in positions of power instead of speak on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on r.t. question more. than just. it's the good the bad of the very very slowly ogling the good rosabel the nineteen year old north carolina grandmother was old enough to have experienced the worst of jim crow era discrimination is suing her homeless. state to block its new voter suppression law the most restrictive one of the
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country tuesday the end of the filed a complaint on behalf of eaton in the us court for the middle district of north carolina at lawsuit claims the north carolina's new voter id requirements are overly burdensome and as a result violate eaton's basic constitutional rights republicans as committed to suppressing the vote as they are the fight to preserve the franchise will be a tough one but brave people like roosevelt eaton should give all of us hope that not everyone has forgotten the value of democracy. the bad representative louie gohmert during a monday interview appearance on the steve malzberg show the texas congressman claimed that the obama administration is stirring up racial tensions to look. we know that this president this administration has done more to stir up racial tension and violence in the administration since you know the sixty's congressman
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gohmert is really the last person who should be talking about stirring up racial tension is listen to what he said about the obama administration in the muslim brotherhood back in april. because radical islam is it war with those thank god that moderates don't approve of what's being done but it is administration is so many muslim brotherhood members. it's you know still making wrong decisions for america to shame and the very very ugly bill o'reilly on tuesday night's episode of the factor of a fox news host mocked california's new transgender rights bill as a. teenage boys who just want to hit on their female classmates seriously you know what. if you go in and say this and i feel that even though i am down as a boy in school i want to be with the girls on a plane idea senior in high school and i think this is. you know you see i look at
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you and i like to get the biggest con in a war i would've been if ever if i go back you know reincarnated you know i'm a teenager ok all right my girl back to the matter is the bill just doesn't understand how hard it is to be transgendered in america especially when you're a teenager trying to deal with every other high school problem sometimes the waiting period for an expensive gender reassignment surgery can be yours alone in the meantime the best we can do as a society is to make sure the transgendered students live their lives as they want to and without harassment that bill o'reilly said and so callously laugh off the difficulties of being transgendered in america by suggesting that a boy who wants to use the girls' locker room just wants to hit on the girls not only wildly inaccurate it's just barely barely a. libertarian
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capitalism killed my best friends libertarian capitalism also killed my father and the family of one of my coworkers let me explain there are two ways a nation can allow products to come into the marketplace the libertarian unregulated american way and the regulated capitalism european way when a nation like the united states uses the libertarian way it allows corporations to send whatever products they want into the marketplace regardless of how those how dangerous those products might be the theory is that once people notice how deadly something is they'll stop buying it and the free market will magically correct itself then after a few people die nations that use the regulated european way however require manufacturers to prove that products are safe to use before they're available for purchase this is called the precautionary principle. it requires manufacturers to
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prove to government and us to society that the new product is safe before it's let into the marketplace or so this country's libertarian approach to regulation killed my best friends my dad and the family of one of my coworkers scientists and health experts knew as far back as one hundred years ago that a specialist caused a god awful form of log cancer called mesothelioma or measles filio because america doesn't use the precautionary principle talking toxic asbestos was used in homes workplaces and even schools well into the one nine hundred seventy s. my friend terry my friend rob and my father all died of middlefield my coworker hides wife was torn apart by her parents fight with that disease and i believe that that pain led directly to her death two years ago consider these human stories when terri o'connor and i own an herbal tea company back in the one nine hundred seventy s. created and mow the lawn for weeks at a time so the city hit us with
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a big fine terry was an artist and i was a rebel so instead of paying the fine we'll labrat leave label terry designed these things every weed with their latin name in the front yard with fully designed artwork on wooden stakes and then i filled out the paperwork to have our front lawn designated as it were tentacled garden got us out of a big fine we could have mowed the lawn in fifteen minutes but it's setting up a potential garden to weeks of what are now actually wonderful memories but years later or years earlier excuse me at the motor will factory where terri worked for about a year during college he went through one to three pairs of a special school every single day along with his other factory workers he had to use those gloves to remove burning hot steel wheel parts from a giant press it was three stories tall that line went really fast and it was really dreadful work i talked to terry over the past few months almost every weekend by skype. his oxygen tube was the least of his discomforts the chemo was
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flowing through his veins adding hopefully a few weeks or months to his life terry was special and america would have been better with terry on this planet for another ten or twenty years i know i'd be better if you story are his wife his children his grandchildren would be to. my dad caro on the left there loved books and loved history that's from me and my brothers my mom and after spending two years in the army during world war two was hoping to graduate from college and teach history perhaps even at the university level if you could just hang onto the g.i. bill and his day job at a camera shop long enough to get his ph d. it was nine hundred fifty and he'd been married just a few months when the surprise came forced my dad to drop out of college his wife was pregnant with their first child me this was an era when husbands worked wives time in the home and being a good father and provider was one of the highest calling as to which a man could aspire my dad dropped out of school kept his day job from nine to five
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at the camera shop and got a second job at a metal fabricating plant working with molten metal from seven pm before he was exposed to toxic aspects to us for most of that grueling shift for much of his wife my mom's pregnancy and his newborn son my first year my dad slept three hours a night and caught up on the weekends in the process earned enough to give us an apartment and cover the costs of starting a family over the next forty five years he continued to work in the steel machine industry in later years he worked as a bookkeeper and manager for a michigan tool and die company as three more sons of my three younger brothers were born in two thousand and six my dad injured himself tripping on the stairs and up in the hospital with a compression fracture of his spine which is what he thought had been causing the terrible pain he'd been experiencing in his chest in his abdomen the doctors however discovered that his lungs were filled with mesothelioma his doctor told him he had six months to live and he died. side of me sitting next to him in
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excruciating pain all because he wanted to do the right thing for his family. my co-host on k.p. o.j. radio grew up in libby montana father was a police officer and mom worked around this best as mines exposed as mining was a principal business for the town in the air was full of a supposed to stop us both the hotties parents died from missile filio me as did many of the citizens of libya but he was wounded by that as well as the death of much of her extended family and many many of her childhood friends from mesothelioma her death a few years ago was in my opinion partly caused by those rooms robert torricelli a vietnam veteran recipient of the purple heart was one of the people who worked at the factory and a good friend one day when he was putting bags of extra white packaged peanuts in the attic attic of the building that we rented my wife when we showed up with our eldest daughter who at the time was two years old or daughter asked rob what the bags were he and terry told her that this is where the snow gets stored for the
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winter our daughter was amazed and for months kept talking to everybody about how we were the keepers of the snow. all of these people were technically killed by a special us but they were really killed by the unregulated libertarian capitalism that allowed big corporations to put us into the marketplace even though they knew it killed people deregulated or our lives a fair libertarian unregulated capitalism is what really killed them all we are now a lot of specialists in the united states in both the workplace in the marketplace but today right now this minute there are more than eighty thousand chemicals in our environment here in the u.s. that we have not yet even begun to test to find out how toxic or deadly they might be and we're only just beginning to look at g.m.o. europe and japan use the precautionary principle they require corporations to prove that their products are safe before the. you can bring them into the marketplace
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but our country is still one big libertarian experiment and with exploding autism and cancer rates we're probably going to find out in the next generation what's out here right now the people will look back on in thirty years and say oh yeah that was that generation's i s'posed. our country needs to seriously reconsider unregulated libertarian capitals and think about the safety of people every day working people as a higher priority than the profits of hustlers and giant corporations. planet would be a better place all these people have lived their natural lives. i know i would have been better with them in the world and so would their families and friends. by and godspeed terri heidi and i'm going to miss you.
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