download free broadcast quality video for your media projects and free media oh don darty dot com. today on larry king now the venerable forest whitaker who may win another osca the movie deals of the civil rights movement it is a continuum it's not dealing with disarray as a piece of history it's dealing with the civil rights movement as a comic piece of of of life and you want to be an actor i don't think that when i was a kid did that seem like it would be a possibility that deep into my career my folks always thought that i needed to go find what does not do for a living plus director to leave daniels do you think do you buy it someday like to do two hundred million dollar extravaganza if hollywood ever lets me it will be but not let you know i don't know of an african-american that's been able to direct that two hundred million dollars extravaganza all next on larry king now.

welcome to larry king now my special guest is farce whitaker one of my favorite actors who is absolutely brilliant in one of the great movies i've seen a long long while the movie is the butler it opens on the sixteenth satisfied with is takes so glad you like the oh i love the hope we're told a story a dish and a bunch of six people even auditioned you yeah and academy award went up yes submit to an audition yeah i came in and she was already doing her lee had a relationship and i came into the hotel and i read for them but they gave me the job by the end of the audition they walked away and sky stood in this she said did you like the role right away just like the script i thought it was a beautiful script that those whose amazing i thought it was as an actor as an artist is amazing challenging as well most challenging character ever played you know and to get to do that in a movie that i think. they said light on things and says something is really

special over the world working with oprah who is even though this is a third film still basically a novice and i don't think of her is a novice that's really brilliant yeah. she was startled sometimes when we do the scenes in she was so real right in the moment. as the characters is the gays are trying to figure out how to do the issues because played an alcoholic we lost a son she was so much pain i was trying to figure out how do you come through how do i comfort her you know how to make her feel better you know because it was so true she's i think she's amazing she's beautiful what do you mean. personally for you. as a black man a successful way to have to relive all those things that happened. it was a great weight you know very painful. some of the moments in the losses injustices that humiliations you know i knew just even asking for

a raise became like this military experience you know. that i had to endure and it was all those things that he carried with him that we carry with us you know the pains of that that started to aid him slowly we see him at the end carrying the weight of the world or of the times you think people will learn a lot from this from certainly younger people will i think they will not only will they learn a little bit about the civil rights movement and history but i think in a field a little bit because i think you do want to be a experimental be a big deal with the motions of what it felt like to go through some of this i think lead it is amazing these like with the young kids in college when they were likely prepared with loss and you know to go in like sit at the counter and fight for just you know to be able to be there and you watch the pain they were going through i was in awe this lifetime yeah oh yeah it's like wasn't that long ago. to see that is pretty amazing in my son to personalize it. you know like you know you see the

footage and you see the image they were use of like them holding people down but then once you care about this guy then you see him actually united's periods and the difficulty in the pain is trying to protect the girl he loves in it's just i'm hoping it will it stand. not just what happened but what it means to you to stand up for what you want. to do like. i did like like you have to like the clarity of play but. i think you always have to like the character. or find something or let you know you have to because you can't just like this reasons why we are the way we are for whatever experiences if you don't like a character if i play a play the i mean he did a lot of what will things i'm still looking to back when he was a little baby would all do whatever happened to created who he was happy but when you get to the core of him you see the beauty of the something special like that same light it's in all of us you know what you're going to get. for that reason to

continue to explore humanity to continue to try to understand the breath and the depth of humanity because every time i play a part on the way i get to reincarnate again every time i live a new life and i when i'm living that life i'm among covering all these things to try to get to the source of that lights or pull in the way experiences and i get to grow i get to learn and i get to connect and understand more about how i connect to the world you want to be an actor. no i don't think that when i was a kid did that seem like it would be a possibility there was just maybe one actor were going to see the point he was working in and then there would be wanted it time it was that kind of a thing even deep into my career my folks always thought that i needed to go find what is going to throw everything at the back of you know you know that's nice but you know go back to school when did i first when did we first see four hours with it was your first film that's i was raised by oh yeah yeah i played a football player. and. kohli and all that i was beginning you

know a blackout is. i think i do think about the beginning sometimes you know the way. i remember the direction i got pretty much which is more angry worrying tricky. you know but i. have come. a long way in types of walls and stuff a very fortunate you grew up in los angeles would be safe to say you didn't see racism or did you course i mean well you know like you just you know l.a. was a segregated city for a long period of time i mean up until the into the sixty's i mean it was qusay really we moved to south central l.a. and then we moved to another area in carson which is a carson compton area. as a kid most of my time was spent in like the four blocks four city blocks i just go to school and i come back on the corner of my house and forty forty nice street that was it was a building here in my record over here is where the black panther party was so i

would see those guys every day you know they would pick me up really nicely you know so i kind of just got to stand them in a different way that is some analytical way it was just the guys who like just ask because the breakfast you know i mean so but yeah and then as my world grew my worldview grew i got to go out and see other people in other cultures. but i was insulated for a lot of time like my my father's mother my father we come from longview texas and it was like a river in the town it was like across the river that meant as the area where the white people lived in little frost lived across the river you know the other side tracked. well you know so i show once an interview did way you said you'd been first in your life in the region right here i mean i have been even here in new york. and as tell would that be times in my life through and i guess you know it's just because

a reminder that we have to go to so so far we have to still go you know. to move that equation forward it's a process of being able to t.t.t. heal but right now to act like it's not really the movie deals with the civil rights movement it is a continuum it's not dealing with the civil rights movement as a piece of history it's dealing with the civil rights movement as a current piece of of life you know living history because the fact is that they started with an ideal that they were reaching towards that ideal has not been met yet for anyone for you for me you know to be able to live in a society that people have certain rights in a legal rights is more luther king said the promissary note you know there was a promissory note given that we would be able to have equal rights of freedom and the right to pursue a good life you know i mean and so we're still pursuing that promissary note and so right now we're we're we're sitting in and we're moving through a new movie does that is the movement still moving towards it i ended king spent time with king he was an amazing man to be a really good around a very good jackie robinson what did he say to you always like reading yeah there

was something he remembered always oh oh. i don't want to go with me and. i'd like to know i went with him. to tallahassee my lawyer voted me to go up to tallahassee with him and interviewed him and he was going in the great motel and they knew they were going to let him in he's going to be arrested but he wanted to this motel and i was standing here and my lawyer was there martin luther king in crowds outside and he went up to the desk and he said to the kurds i have a reservation on the cain approach as i see it but i got a king we don't take negroes. she went outside and sat on the it was about twenty room hotel he sat on the bench the porch leading up the steps he's blocking the entrance shit so the squad cars coming up the hill in tallahassee and the owner of the moto at the kirk comes out and up belligerent he just looks down king is

sitting i was standing king is sitting and the only looks down them and says. what do you want. what do you want you can work up and. my dignity is. frozen in time. that moment so i cry when i think of it first you should out of sequence very. hard it was tough at times with this one because sometimes of my work twenty hours a day because i would start off like like it's a ninety year old and i had this make a put on and then i would move to a four year old and you know what but in a day maybe i played thirty year olds you now know how you will look at ninety right you know when i think i'm a look a little better than that you know there's my all my grandparents lived into the ninety's so you got good genes yeah how do they do that how do they figure out how the make up of oh i think what he did with you they did was he had my face and he

started these things like what happens to the face with gravity. and like you know as you get older and stuff and they start doing these computer renderings of it and they would do the same thing with my hair and it was it was interesting because it actually helped me to be a look in the mirror and say ok fifteen you know the thing was that i would sometimes have to go like thirty thirty five forty forty five i was trying to differentiate between when i was forty when i was forty five you know as you age a president yes i was very specific about the little little tiny changes what's next. movie from. black to video. it's for twisted facts of musical with jennifer hudson angela bassett take a lot of one thing i do us in a duet which is of i have a movie that opens today actually it's a documentary called rising from the ashes it's a documentary about a wanted bicycling team and it deals with how they deal with genocide is the bike to move them as a vehicle you know area. i do not read that now but you said the first great and he

salutes of men great movie farce would it be the film is the puppet opening the sixteenth don't miss it next the director of the film leave daniels joins a bit. of a play it was a. very hard to take a. look again took so long to hear the clock happy that that would that make their lives. whole a lot. of it.

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today i'm sure. is one of our truly great directors he's lead daniels the film lee daniels' the butler opened friday aug sixteenth that's what last week as i said to the other people involved this is a brilliant movie maybe the best civil rights movie ever made an important film that everyone should see so so the first film i've seen with a director's name is included in the title this was because one her brother is into thousands in one thousand and sixteen had a short film called the puppet which all of us saw so naturally this was going to come up with all that scene that nine hundred sixteen filmed it was logical that

they would protest but you got your name above the time i did i don't know how i feel about that how do it where you should i don't know i don't think because the mutate i left when you are when you are. creating your magic i call it i'm in my cocoon and. anything negative will hurt the baby and i don't want anything so when this came to be a protest yeah i mean it took me out of my cool and it was not i didn't and then that's what helped him call the movie and i couldn't think about because it was going to hurt the baby so. and then i found as i stepped out of the coon to realize that the m.p.a. had titled it for me lead angels the butler you know your ego says is supposed to feel good about it but i'm not martin scorsese so i felt like you know you are going to look at me look at me you're a great drip all this is good was going to produce this she did produce it she raised the money she was raising money for it. on up until the day she died

we were developing the script up until the day she died on thursday we were going to do to sony pictures sony didn't feel that this movie justified the budget that it was they wouldn't give us twenty five million it was more like a ten million dollars event and. she then they were gracious enough any pascal two to give it to laura to go raise money independently and then the first for one of the last meetings i had with her was inside and of santa monica and some black woman at the number lottery and she said we've got a live one lee i think we'll get some money from her and and so yeah black will be hit the lotto and she went to be in the movie business in so we sat down and i said i said you ok she says i'm ok she went upstairs or bed two days later she succumbed and god bless or and harvey then did what harvey came in after we finished the film

and bought it i was just going to call oprah. she had produced me for precious. and we were looking for something to do together so i sent her this script the next thing i sent it was you have seen a movie misery with kathy bates or a center i sent her a serial killer and she said we crazy you know serial killer crazy so once we decided to let that shit i gave her this and i said i'm not going to take no for an answer this is something that you have to do and i and i and i came after came after interest and she told me in bars where to go back to it was pick the day you try them out you know dish and for me can you imagine an oscar winner auditioning for me like you know he came in his house and that's that's that's the sign that he was that he would humble himself to come in to audition you know where did you come up with the idea that robin williams would play eisenhower john cusack

would play make sure we were putting pictures together and we would we would more from and i hope robyn williams. and problems trying to get him because we don't pay any money so who would pay you a bag of chips and some m. and m's to believe that bruce take less money to yeah you know what we didn't we didn't have the money to pay money went up on screen and on costumes in production that was sort of. a fait accompli you must be very proud i mean you got to take pride in your work you're a great director and this you must take tremendous pride in this film i am proud my kids are proud and that's more important than. anything else you think people are going to learn a lot about civil rights watching this special younger people. you know larry i made the movie because i couldn't understand why. it was hard for me. my son is now

followed in stores he's. from thirteen to seventeen these last three years followed stores followed people watch him when he goes seven eleven watches out of stores and he and for me to have that conversation with him you know for me to what i think is going to rob the store again and for me to be with him as i try to raise my hand to get a taxi and for them for me to be bypassed and then you know my dad and his son get a taxi. i did it so that he could understand from where it all started . and for him to have been under because the kids understand that you know he knows more about and frank that he does about the civil rights movement he's talked more about in frank in school. i don't know go figure. would you cast someone like oprah one of the problems with my face is people will say look a little pro or she show brigand you know i think she disappears you think

disappears to me totally disappeared as a kid yeah it was hard to make her disappear in the beginning you know because that she does that to do an oprah move you she's so. good. you know every time she would bring her back why did you become a director i start writing and you know i had some dark things happen to me in it as a child and so i would disappear and start drawing and writing to sort of escape the world that i was in their rough childhood pretty rough. road in comparison to whom you know gave you a job as a film director. and you get your first film first film was working on under the purple rain for four prints and i was in charge of finding talent for that was my first sit gig and it sort of got the bug and i never looked back or makes a good director. a director that will. is

very clear about what he wants and is a collaborator with his actors you know a good director they can get his actors to trust. him unequivocally or her and quickly do you think you bite somebody like to do two hundred million. extravaganza blockbuster action over the top movie you know if hollywood never lets me i don't know that it would be but not let you know i don't know of an african-american that's been able to direct that two hundred million dollars extravaganza now does that mean it's not open to them or because it's what should be really good because it's not open to me young bucks don't think of being directors. and what came first larry why are you doing this to me to get cameras right here you know what i mean you've making me think in the

reason why you are you you know he's my family i'm a big advantage huge fan and. that's a powerful statement and it's sad testament to the times that we're in and. things in changed why do you hope that they do change you know i hope that kids will be looking at this and think that they can do for running again. and why do you think . this it may get incredible that the gay movement has moved faster than the black movie. i'm gay so what if i told you four years ago get married america most people big it's ok. you would. know. so maybe we all get better you think. that i hope. you know why not i'm sorry i don't think so larry i think that when i got to. when

i think about this. because i just finished the scene with with johnson it's clear my head i just finished movie five days ago and the butler. five days got rapid and. and i'm still tinkering with l.b.j.'s voters bill what they're doing right now what congress is doing right now is inconceivable to me i have no answer as i've never understood it so i don't know how to explain to you but you just keep on making great films thanks or you're going to get more demand if that is the incident i don't know as long as as long as i can do. informational i'm ok being an artist you're both gay and black right cease in your mind will bore you got to what's let a ban. on what's left the truth how do you know it's this we don't choose our sexuality just argue with jerry falwell all the time but this on the but when i was

true i don't know you again when did i know i was gay. but. i was five and five that i knew something wasn't right or that something wasn't i wasn't writing in paris my brothers because my dad was playing cards one sunday with his cop friends and i put my mother's red pumps and walked down the stairs and he. would know what's going on. and then when i got it i got beat baby severely for really. really bad but that didn't stop me because the following sunday i put on a blue i feel shoes and walked down the stairs this time with her purse in an interview a year ago you said gay people a third citizens that has not changed i think that they are prejudiced upon even

from the african-americans too i think that the reason why we have aids i did a movie called precious and untrue. and what i've learned i expected i expected when i was doing the research for precious i walked into the gay men's health crisis center in new york city expecting to see studying aids hiv and i expected to see a room full of gay men well they're nothing but women that are there and the reason why women there black women with kids i thought had walked into the so the welfare office but. they service. black men with aids why because. black men can't come out why because it's simply you can't do it your family says it your church says it your teachers say it. if your parents say it your friends see it your work says it so you're so you're living in you're on this d.l.

thing and you're infecting black women and so it's killing it's killing us and so i think that there's a and i think that i think that because you know the black culture and culture have a thing about this group you know there was a gay rights amendment in miami in the early seventy's and then went to guarantee rights for gays yet and the black community voted ninety six percent against it i believe that i believe that i've experienced look larry you know why am i doing a brother you know i went to an all white school my mother wanted me in this all white school because she didn't let me she want me to end up like my brother. and my relatives that were killed dealing drugs and she put me into two rather by villanova. and i was called every day i was called sissy every day i was called every day and. and and that put a wall of steel around and put a wall of steel around me and i think that that's the reason why i'm able to go out

and make these movies even against hollywood when they tell me no that's ok i found the money because it's made me more of a man to to. to go out and do my thing. so you would maim angry i'm not angry or i am a little sad sometimes. you know well. no i'm not angry at all i'm i'm. disappointed is the word disappointed is the word well we're not disappointed in you you have contributed to our society in great fashion with your films and this film will send you over the top i predict you will now get a budget of one hundred fifty million if you do this i think the daniels' the butler is going to thank you there i'm a call you on that or i'm a bar one hundred fifty from you doing what i said oh ok why jewish guy walker

mistry love search engine i left thanks to my guests fars with a girl and leave daniels' the butler opens in theaters august sixteenth and remember you can find me on twitter at kings things i'll see you next time. for. your rock. climbing. climbing. walk. coming up.

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