even tomorrows bishop told me because drew was going to chile. so i went to miami to recruit assessments but when on. the do nothing nothing done. community and remember they trained as cameramen in venezuela so they could get press credentials. if you don't go into the last minute when they decided it wasn't worth risking their own lives. is very uncommon with. maurice bishop then informed vesey i know that castro was planning a visit to quito ecuador on his way home to cuba vesey on a contacted luis posada country less a former but tista policeman and a well known anti castro militant to assassinate castro.

got to know if you are strong was told and stood and it is a little bit you know the solder assured me he could put a bullet in his forehead i had on the but i was a guaranteed escape plan the plot failed. on september nineteenth one thousand nine hundred seventy six i had dinner with orlando the tel year at his house the telly there was a former chilean ambassador to washington and i had invited him to work with me at the institute for policy studies after dinner we went outside and i put my elbows on the hood of his car not suspecting there was a bomb planted in it thirty six hours later the telly or drove to work with a colleague ronnie moffat. the telly or died in the explosion as did running off and. shortly afterwards the f.b.i.

arrested hosts a deal nice use water ice and guillermo novo the very men they had listed in their assassination report on ricardo alarcon. two weeks later international terrorism took on dimensions. this is the c.b.s. evening news with walter cronkite that i have named nine days ago a cuban passenger jet on route from barbados to a battle crashed into the sea following an on board explosion seventy three persons fifty seven of them cuban were killed.

two cubans what i know bush and louis posada create us were arrested as must to minds of the crime. what's your response to the accusations. i'm not saying as you americans say no comment the cia was told that a q a cuban airliner was going to be hit. and didn't notify the cubans which one could argue was criminal. and i haven't met any investigator or agent who did not believe that luis posada was involved in the blowing up of the airline really

continue fighting and killing until we women aren't. i don't make the connection between. an ass and use on an airplane how how it went i mean i have children my dear don't know the age of sixty two. oh for sure on. that i just imagine only three days after. after the cuban plane blew up over barbados. in which seventy three people died. the cia headquarters asked me. what i knew about fidel castro's trip to angola. because it was angolan independence day. that fidel was

expected to travel there. they were already planning the next attempt to kill fidel and. some exiles use the bombing of the coupon a plane over barbados to raise money for their own cause which was more violence against cuban targets in the united states. i receive a call from the mission. by the radio saying they killed a cuban diplomat. only forty six. the one that had been killed was fed ex it to the car i went to the place. it was called. coal omega seven says tonight's killing was an execution and warns

that the next victim would be cuban ambassador to the u.n. role rowe. one morning i left my house. he and my bodyguard told me you know i'm past that or there's a little black book that i put by that tree people you know it might be a bomb. the janitor across the street where the tree was known that i don't believe this decided the bomb didn't belong by his tree but it's so long by the tree that my house is you know you walk through so you look like a he so he put it in front of my house literally two alone because when do you think the bomb expert asked the box if they told him the garbage truck took it. so the driver of the truck took the bomb because he thought that it was

a radio something valuable you know every time they see something of value in the trash they separated for them income into truck had pulled up in front of the venice walen embassy and within the two blocks away off. so we arrive. we went to the truck there was the driver i was with would for the. cops something like these and that's a yes but that's my. that's my and if you lose it i'm sorry but this is for me this. is not on and on and that you're i kidding that's not a bomb. i say listen does it pass a minute yes would you please put it in the door of the of the truck when he placed the language in the door of the door and he saw that it's the vice state's

there he opened the door and start running it. well the time has come you've seen the map reagan is our projected winner ronald wilson reagan ronald reagan's reelection provided greater impetus for the political plans of anti castro exiles in florida having understood that violence alone could not bring down the cuban government jorge muskaan also founded the cuban american national foundation with political action committees and lobbyists with reagan support moscow and also encouraged cuban americans who shared his agenda to run successfully for congress we are really the voice of the cuban american community in miami and we hope to have to convey to the all that fellow anglos our feelings about communism and why we're here in this country. is happening in cuba is not a failure of the cuban people it's a savior of sidel castro one of three. thousand nine hundred eighty seven the

soviet communist system was very sick but fidel castro refused to give up the burning wall. coast along in. the fall of. the soviet union comes to an end in november one thousand nine hundred one the economy is going into a freefall and they. decide that they have to link. the death tax that they're going to carry out. centaur man to uncover the plots against cuba. where were they planted. in one thousand nine hundred run a gone solace hijack the plane in cuba and flew it to miami. shortly afterwards he joined the others to the rescue he was followed by antonio getting to rome on love

i need know how do i do in on this and fernando gonzalez. years later these men would be known as the cuban five cuban intelligence agents whose job was to penetrate violent exile groups. if you i mean we are gathering information about brothers to the rescue rose to the rescue. to. the people who were there were. you were. dire circumstances many of them were losing their lives in the attempt because they were using you know to be anything that was low. some people might say it was a humanitarian organization. no quite the contrary while they confided their activity to rescuing rafters they had no problems with cuban

authorities the f.b.i. had also infiltrated that organization. they're in former fed them information about what the brothers were doing and the f.b.i. doesn't infiltrate a humanitarian organization without a reason. why we never do anything you know we saw. the harassment. bring to the problem we prepared or only. we sent to. war nonviolence and confrontation with the government on a given the normal way. in one thousand nine hundred five the migration accords said rafters rescued at sea would not be taken to the u.s. but returned to cuba. people stopped giving money to bustle to go and as organization. why give money if the coast guard returns them to cuba.

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so mistletoes mission to save lives. and he began a new mission which was basically to top the government of cuba with these overflights throwing we flips out and dropping medals and different kind of you

know propaganda out his window now we. are going towards. bustle toll claims he successfully tested. new weapon in the everglades. you know. his plan was to fire at somewhere in cuba. i went to cuba in january of ninety six in the course of a long dinner. president castro raised the issue of the overflights with me. basically saying. you've got to tell your government to. get control of these people that are making these very veiled threats and overflights and please fix the problem. and we took leave to be cherished.

compound our award. to stop those flight a proceeding cause me to get a more soda out of all of the border that i i mean fly those restaurants the one where the story was based do if you can when you saw a flying around the country i mean dropping leaflets i don't want to lubricious all hollow alone. he got his aides on me our country can no longer doubt made such a thing. almost fourteen years after president eisenhower had suggested the cubans just shoot down the airplanes the cuban government seemed to follow his advice they shot down to three brothers to the rescue place. the plane carrying who say both returned safely to miami.

in those two planes there were four people travelling to warn each plane they were pulver ice by makes in international airspace. after the shoot down of the brothers to the rescue planes bill clinton's national security adviser presented him with policy options military strikes against cuba or a bill tightening the already tight embargo on cuba. clinton shows helms burton or the libertad act tightening the embargo. a point you had to make decision as to on what basis does they call me survive and they said well the only thing that we have immediately we don't depend on anyone is to reason so that they're right wing cuban exiles and this is one area that we have to hit and we have to get they launched a media savvy. campaign to make it unsafe for

tourists to come to cuba. by publicly announcing that everything in cuba is a target that cuba has become a free fire zone borrowing this time from be a. place to mobile has exploded at the capri you know hotels and another at the hotel. when the person of the person i talked to called himself ignatius me diena later on i realized he was.

me. he asked me if i'd like to visit cuba. as a tourist. for placing a few bombs he offered one thousand dollars plus all expenses the whole tourist package. the movement to. time a thousand dollars was big money in el salvador. but needed to take a trip for five days three days not barry still might have. some time in this summer of ninety ninety eight feel gusto hands to see him out of

his letter to deliver to president clinton because he knew that the two were to meet in the white house and in that letter he or first the clinton administration. information that they're willing to collaborate with the f.b.i. . moving at that moment. president clinton expressed his willingness to do something very well since you asked if we would host an f.b.i. delegation. that would offer that of them but they go through it. and within two weeks an f.b.i. team goes to havana this is june one thousand nine hundred eighty three the f.b.i. and the us government did absolutely nothing about these groups but i saw. you have provided all kinds of evidence to the f.b.i. the f.b.i.

then see who were the people who were supplying the q uncle i mean the information . was charged with conspiracy to commit espionage. was also charged with conspiracy to commit murder although no evidence existed that he had transmitted details of the fatal brothers to the rescue flights so you didn't offer any information that would help the cuban government to shoot down the plane no cause not if you broke your correct group of those. who are now no way. for the. cream. then i got real grown. glory or everybody knew that you know our priority some form of life or. judge joan with sentence toronto hernandez to two terms of life without parole look

at the draconian souness's that they got two life sentences plus fifteen years and this is supposed to be because of the brothers to the rescue shoot down and so forth which i have. absolutely no way of knowing the truth about because our government the cuban american community and others have so clouded the facts and so obvious skated all of the available material on it it's not whether they were sent here because acts of terrorism were being what happening in cuba you do not send people to spy in other countries because you think that they are committing or you say they're committing acts those five that are so you know try to be painted as heroes are murderers all the men were given maximum sentences kept in solitary confinement for more than a year barred from seeing certain family members and what they believe was the most

prejudicial they were not granted a change of venue out of miami well there was ample evidence of intimidation of the jury and in fact some of the jurors during the four deer process when they were being selected specifically said that they were afraid for their families if they reached a verdict in this case that was not acceptable to the exile community in miami i do not understand why the trial proceed in dade county florida a change of venue to me as a layman is something that is demanded when there is absolutely no chance of the defendant or defendants getting a fair trial in the area where they're going to be tried. but it's a fact it's real it has made the cuban exiles tapi today. white for differing askew. we can't wait for

a female castro to die for chavez to go crazy or for a. to make mistakes. remember general antonio my sales words you don't beg for freedom. you win it with a blade of a machete. not all terrorists are treated the same those that are favored by the administration cooperate with impunity inside the united states people who want to partake in

violent acts against you are protected you see individuals who are trying to stop those acts of terror is to try to. make all american law enforcement. aware of these activities are the people who end up being prosecuted. the people who end up in jail and those who blow up airliners those who blog post tells those who conduct acts of violence are free that the toast of the town because you ministration is paralyzed by their own policy with respect to it to cuba with their own posse with respect to the war on terror which you see is the level of the pacific that is credible i am posada. in general. you know if his conscience bothered him from his life as. you know a military. and he said no that he slept like

a baby we were fighting again united say that again got through again and that do you know where you go and grossly i mean roger we are fighting a body what do you call a person who fights against what do you call that. who fight. but i mean is that a freedom fighter. plane that if i get counseling you are afraid. front i welcome the opportunity of having anyone assassinate fidel castro and any leader who was suppressing oppressing the people. i'm glad you did and should be you could have. just if you how would you have ever as might be here you are you see good all around the world one has come now you do recall even though you are talking to that side of. your hero's going to hear the racial speaking with it. it's very simple if you want the embargo lifted he can release political prisoners

and respect human rights repression and hold free and democratic elections we do business with all sorts of. quote some type of democratic countries where there are free elections that are always here because we care because they are small and because there is political benefit to doing it in florida and you have been to cuba . and been free cuba also knows one ton cuba's biggest crime is its desire to be a free un sold for income tree they would forgive cuba for the poor. somebody three of them or every word. i have is own foreign policy i didn't do that much i did what any cuban would do and we need to deal with the cuba today not the cuba that we left not the cuba that we think is there but it isn't we need to deal with the cuba that exist today. and hopefully before. the future of that cuba

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