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today i'm larry king now breaking bad stars and a gunman being an artist is abuzz over the show's final season are they going to reveal any secrets well here's how they handle it sounds like him people come up to me and say i got to know the any and before the finish that sensical please don't tell me plus you said maury oh i call ahead on larry king now. you're watching larry king now she'd just received her second emmy nomination for playing skyler white the put upon wife to bryan cranston's teacher turned murderous drug lord walter white in the critically acclaimed series breaking bad she's an exam the amc show by the way is in its final season much to the dismay of its
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devoted fan base and to your dismay to my dismay as well it's been an amazing amazing six years just the ride of my life i have to say how did you learn that you were nominated for an emmy this year i have to say i actually was in a deep sleep i stayed up pretty late with some nerves but then i finally went to sleep and i was in a deep sleep and i did hear the phone ringing and i thought the phones ringing that must be good news and it was you and i wanted to run it was and who beat you dame maggie smith so that's really up against her again. but it's not a fair fight it's a good it's a good company as brian given you any advice bryan gives me good advice about things all the time and he just he says enjoy the ride stay present be in it and he is a great he is a wonderful guy we were on jimmy kimmel together oh you are the series has thirteen nominations why is it going on. well i think vince knew from the beginning that he
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had just so much story to tell and as he says he never wanted to stay at the party too long he says it's always best to leave the party with everybody wanting just a little bit more rather than to overstay your welcome and i think that's a really smart way to do it so chill has a lot of famous fans rarely do people like addicted to it absolutely addicted i think when we third season when people got to see us on netflix that really sent the show into a different sort of stratosphere and people started binge watching and then we had people coming up to us saying oh my gosh i started watching the show and i've been up for three days straight and i've been watching it and i haven't slept and i said are you alright psychologically and people would say yeah yeah i'm good i'm good i just can't wait to get more and more and more so you finish the show you mel but you finish shooting you know yes what was that was do you like the last day for me on set was extremely emotional and i went into the makeup trailer that morning and
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i think it was already starting to have some teary moments but yeah but brian and i the whole time we just said let's enjoy and savor and relish every last minute of this because we knew how lucky we were we knew how rare this writing is and it doesn't come along that often and so we just held onto each other for dear life and we had a group hug at the end of the day and i actually drove home that night with this huge smile on my face and i didn't realize it until i was halfway home and i thought i had this huge grin on my face because i know how extraordinary this this experience has been and how lucky i am are you happy with the way the and the extremely. well here's how they end it so no i can't you know vince gilligan would come out of a good row and. she may be i mean if you deserve she does everybody gets the ending we do if i think of in all really stayed true and really authentic to each of the characters storylines. and arcs and personalities and that's why i
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think it ends perfectly did you agree with. yeah i did i think it was every single season i wondered have been so is going to take all these different storylines all these threads of of the things that he set up and pull them back together and i was always amazed at how he did it and then with this final episode of the entire series i my jaw just dropped with what he did get the port i got the part because my friend sharon bialy our wonderful casting director called me and i had just had my second child i was really really tired and there was a round robin of colds and flus going around our house and i was extremely i was just worn out and she kept trying to get me to come in and read for and i was so tired i kept missing the appointment and finally she called me at home and said what are you doing and i said i'm sorry sharon i've just been i'm really out of it just had my second baby and she said all right whatever get off the phone read that script and then you call me back and i said ok yes ma'am so i got off the phone and
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i read it top to bottom it was one of the best scripts i'd ever read in my life i called her right back and i said i'll be in tomorrow and she said how would you like to go back and shoot in your home state of new mexico and that was even more incredible because i had no idea that it was shooting there and when she told me that i thought this is too good to be true did you have to be begins to get it there were three other women that came in to test for it but they put us all in a room with vince and bryan before we went into test and so we each got about ten minutes to play with them and as soon as i went and met brian he and i just had great chemistry we started playing around and go get it right there. pretty much always been the work you know i have i've been very lucky since i got a lot of things yeah yeah since i graduated from northwestern i went immediately and i did the beggar's opera in chicago and i did theater in chicago for a couple years and then i moved out to l.a. and i started doing television and i've done. i've gone between theater television
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and film for all these years what made it for you was there a breakthrough role for the gun i think it was probably the role in deadwood playing mrs volek and dad were and i think that was the one that finally really did it for me very controversial series that was somewhat controversial because i think of the language but again i think that david milch was writing in i think he was he it was like shakespeare to us and there was a lot of salty language in there which made some people a little nervous but it was apparently really true to the period and to the way that they actually talked at the time she did love the racetrack she uses crazy. good luck got a bit of break with leno i know they're going to make a movie there was logical yeah it is but there were there was some talk about it but because of the way that this really is wrapped things up i think that that's probably not going to happen however there is really serious talk about doing
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a saw goodman spin off with the character that bob odenkirk plays and that sounds like it's about ninety five percent sure it was you he and. of all. there was somebody plans about your role. yeah there was some backlash and it had to do i think both with the change that the character went through but also i think there were some there were different components to it i think one of them was that people identified so much with walt as a character the downtrodden disappointed man who then rises up and becomes you know this guy who tells us boss to go to hell and tell us that the big bad you know sort of criminal and people it resonated with with a lot of people and so for skyler she was the one who stood in his way more than anybody else in the series so i think a lot of people felt like they hated her because she was his greatest poser. and
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then i think it had to do with a lot of other things actually though too i think it had to do with the fact that because she was a woman there was a certain part of the audience that said we don't like that kind of woman and vince very specifically wanted it wanted her not to be that kind of soft gentle woman who rings her hands and sits in the corner and cries and says oh dear oh dear what shall i do he wanted her to be really tough and really strong and have a backbone of steel and to be the one character who stands up and looks him in the eye and says i know you and i know you're lying and it's not ok and it made people uncomfortable and we actually at first were confused by how much people some people hated her but after a while we thought it was kind of great that it raised that debate and that people were so passionate about you enjoyed that i didn't enjoy it at first but after a while i really thought it was great that that was going on because certainly it raised a lot of questions in people's minds and if you know if people are talking about it
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it's better than not talking we can look. but you can't. that's luck it's just something that happens or doesn't happen and and for such a dark serious show i mean most of our scenes were very intense dramatic scenes but he and i just spent a lot of time laughing together. my kids are six and twelve so they do not watch the show but they did they did come to set and they watched they watched us film some scenes that i deemed appropriate but you know my kids would say things like mom why are you guys so mad at each other well and then my my twelve year old once said to me what what is it that walt cooks and i said. he cooks things that don't taste good and the better for you and then make you feel very bad. they're not good it's nothing that you would lie. and she just left it on we go to
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play a game if you only knew in a minute but first you what's next for you i just was at the sundance director's lab at the sundance institute this summer and i did a role that was kind of a female walter white character in a way it was a psychological portrait of the making of a zealot about a woman named shelley shannon who in ninety two ninety three went from being a normal housewife and then joined a really extreme. group right wing sort of the pro-life movement and unbeknownst to anybody started fire bombing abortion clinics a true story and then a phone independent film. we just workshop that there are so they are going to go back and tighten the script and then hopefully will go forward without this year so you're up in utah it was beautiful if you only knew favored breaking bad as seen. it had to have been the scene where i walked into the swimming pool and that was the idea that skyler had to save her kids because walt had just forced her into
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such a position that she was really being held hostage in her house and so she decided to play a little bit crazy and walk into the swimming pool and it was where she really again got this great idea outsmarted walt at his own game and the first boy. i do believe davy drumheller baby drummed into much in ohio in ohio. we're going to have the i don't know where are you she's loose. you know you six maybe seven of you had strange band encounters with the world you the latest thing that happened was that warren buffett and keith richards came up to me within about within the span of about eight minutes at the new york premiere the other night and both gushed over the show and over my performance and that was that to me i mean that was the most wonderful and strange thing that's happened in the
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recent. past that you had your own breaking bad moment. my own breaking bad moment i in santa fe christmas time this was several years ago every year at christmas i don't know if you've been to santa fe but they set up the canyon you've never been there it's true it's gorgeous but they set up a little part of canyon road which is where all they are galleries are and they put little bags with candles in them called fairly toes and bonfires and and they and people walk around and sing christmas carols and it's a really beautiful time of year and people take their families and it's a really nice place to walk around but people can also drive around there and my niece and i was with my niece and nephew was before i had my kids and a car that people got a little impatient at that time as well so my niece was crossing in front of a car that just didn't want to wait for her and as she was crossing the car came just about this close to her and i just really didn't like it and i have
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a little bit of you know a little bit of an impulsive part of me and i looked i stopped and i looked at the car and he came and inched even closer to me the point where he touched me with his car and i looked at him and he looked at me and i just sat down on the hood of this car he then took off with me on the hood of his car and i had to flip over on my stomach and grab. the winch like the wind or the windshield wipers and it was like a dukes of hazzard moment and my family was standing there watching me with this car taking off with me right and you are you did that i do not know i did not know there was something in me that just wanted to say that's not a good idea but certainly it was not a good idea for me to sit down on the hood of a car i was just feeling. feisty little side of a good feeling feisty thank you. read costar and on screen brother more. don't go away.
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like these policies at the same time people. a pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm researcher. we now welcome to larry king. live them all familiar faces in america he has not one but two shows in prime time including the stephen king series under the dome but dean ours is will live forever he will never be known as hank schrader the dea
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agent and brother in law to bryan cranston's crystal meth kingpin walter white on breaking bad to t.v. shows in primetime that's unusual this theory and i'm trying to think it maybe you would know better now is it about me for i can't think of it that contractually would not. gable to exist how did what how did you get one you had breaking bad right breaking bad breaking bad was ending and so i knew i could do a show i met with needed tasks or had a c.b.s. at ten am i think on a monday and it noon she offered me the job so i looked it looked it over and made sure we could it could jive with the schedule a break by which is pretty tough and they couldn't they had it in the just the way they were going to get done with breaking bad back in march and it didn't and it's not air until now and we started under the dome and aired simultaneously you major in drama however i did not yuki that's not an option at harvard. they have a theater they have a lot of theater there is american repertory theater there as well with robert
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bruce dean but they also do a lot of student plays and what the student drama and i did a lot of that six plays a year maybe at least i got into harvard when you get into harvard you go and i came from. you know i came from a family where i was the first guy to go to college at all and my dad was a singer in a band that was his how we made our money but also his passion and i used to love it i wanted to be a singer i want to be good and i was a guitar player and i would play in his band as early as i don't know nine ten years old i would substitute for his guitar player if you needed it and i had a band in middle school and i had a band and high school but i realized i was going to make it and that i was in good enough and enough going the voice it was a really good musician so acting kind of was the next thing to get type of authority figures you think that's because you know look i think so i mean certainly you know people always act as if that's absurd a big problem i know actors always like to complain about it but early on if it was it was a good source
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a living you know there's always cops and t.v.'s of those cops in the film so coming out to l.a. with literally no money at all. it made for an easy transition into a pretty decent. cold absolutely i slept on someone's couch for that was two hundred dollars a month well look out. i don't have a name a room like it was shot very first was it was a h.b.o. show called lessons learned no h.b.o. war stories they were did a little series where they did the war stories and i was in one half hour episode but my next job was lethal weapon two and that got me and i was it i never did anything else other than acting after that you run into a lot of cops and federal agents yeah talk to you about you work your people type you as well and you look at me if you you know i used to say you got any don't it don't shop you look at three cops one of them don't like me how do you view breaking bad success how do i. expect that when i read that pilot it was
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the best ponit ever read and i read twenty or thirty pilots a year for twenty five years. it was great and i saw that in character as a ol that's my character that's my guy i can i can kill this character i knew it right away the words would just come out of your mouth so good and i think pretty much he felt the same i tested i was and i want to test so i knew it was my role that. we get in there and you know you and i made my cranston and we made everybody and it was just it was awesome we saw the first when they showed it to us and you like it could be great on screen on a script and not on the screen and we were all sat there and said wow it's like the best independent movie we've ever seen you know but we were all concerned that we couldn't go on i couldn't think how they could write the second episode after the pilot let alone you know seasons after that so we knew it was great and we knew we liked it was on a small network and we didn't know if it would stay on in the writers' strike happened and it was a really like the second or third season when we started really understanding that
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hand people are responding you know people are coming up you know it's the best show i've ever seen there's nothing like there's nothing like it you know and it was just it was perfection all department showed up in that in that show from the writing to the to the directing to the cinema to who was an antihero but it's funny it's got that's the other thing about it it has all these different elements now knows it's very serious dramatic it's very very funny but also it does these really intimate small beautiful moments and then it has these huge operatic moments that aren't even real you know that the killer is the mexican killer that came after me the cartel i mean they were sitting in the in the you know the world and they weren't supposed to be their true cartel hit they were just these characters like opera characters that were you know coming on and this is the last season you've already filmed so you know telling how times out right i'll tell you marry me and sure. i got look cute but is that him i can't give you do you die i think if you get breaking bad has someone flexion on what's going on in country
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today i think it certainly did yeah i think it was part of its appeal to beginning you know kind of a. a guy who was he had two or three jobs and still couldn't pay for his for his own health care and in time to provide for his family i think that was the early the early draw to people. you know if you broke the mold if you reveal be ending tonight what would ruin your career which it would do to you and really. what would happen it would disappoint a lot of fans you know in fact people would listen here's the great thing about breaking bad people come up to me and say i gotta got to know the ne and before they even finish that sentence they go please don't tell me. as years without anything did you like the way they ended i think it's awesome and i think the whole i think every single episode every single episode of the eight is possibly the best eight of the entire shares ok that's that's good enough for me is a dream on says to be killed it's true why it's because on this last season and
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i'll try to make this a brief as possible they picked up a fifth season there is a lot of negotiations going on instead of thirteen which we usually do this it will do a super sized last season of the sixteen so as far as we'll concern for the several months after that that's what we're going to do so i was able to shoot would be able to shoot a pilot do my sixteen episodes of breaking bad of the pick of the pilot i'd be ready to go then they decided they were split into two eights now that's for you know reasons that are have to do with all kinds of corporate stuff really none of them were concerned about my financial concerns so i said man that means i can't do a pilot this year and i might not be able to do a pilot next year meaning this year right here and that's for eight episodes i get it i could do anything else because i'm contracted to them so i would get paid for is eight episodes and i wait ten months of doing nothing. so i said hey you know let's let's explore the possibility that the great cliffhanger of the great any of the first eight is hank getting killed off and vince in one conversations that you know that we've been building up this thing for the mob years now and we need is
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the final arc and i didn't complain i said of course i think in retrospect it might have been a kind of passive aggressive way to get him to say he really needed me for the last day i do enjoy going to the dome as much i love doing on the job i mean it's a whole different whole different kind of ballgame but the character is different and just the scope of the show is different and it's stephen king stephen king and steven spielberg and it's just. but but am i to join it yet play a big of a little bit of hands on stephen king is more hands on but stillbirths builder is definitely there making decisions yeah when i was in social media questions for you know robert civvy you know on twitter wants to know would deem have a role to play in the saul goodman spinoff. that we have to vince gilligan in character i don't know about that daniel on twitter wants to know the job or think you might have been written off on a whims knows i didn't because i know that vince gilligan would have would have told me ahead of time along as soon as he knew because he's that kind of guy which
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is which is to his great respect and i knew that they needed this you know wind and guns character found out early on in that i think was season three i realized that the final arc they had to deal with was what hank would do when he found out about walt and knew they needed needed that tension and now we're going to get that answer these final we were going to go to break even what on facebook what was your favorite episode. other coming up but prior to these coming up it would be one minute season three which eloise only that was that my favorite episode within breaking bad that changed my career violet alba and facebook wants to know what am i supposed to do of mine life now that the show's ending this was how people reacted so much i just watched it over and over again why do you think people have i think it's the perfect show i think that vince gilligan is so respectful of his audience that they agonize over every single moment they agonize over the color the sound editing everything is everything everyone puts all their best into it nobody
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lets it go that's ok that didn't make sense but with the audience will buy it or will will would sneak that but i'm you go through that show i dare you to find a false moment in the sixty two episodes can all give well the public like b.m. big yes and members they were disappointed in the soprano well i don't think we're going to that issue i mean they could debate it but it's not going to be it's not it's not a gimmicky ending but at that what we end the show with if you only knew just a couple quick questions first kiss who's personal you have a kiss. wow i think it was great but it was my first girlfriend was it was like a first kiss how we had in the thirteen to fourteen range late middle age but they stand by the. dream role trainer all bank on. the crazy fan encounter have any creed the. the craziest thing and it's happened a lot more recently is that when people kind of talk to me at the urinal you know it's always
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a little disconcerting when you're in the you know when you're the public restroom and some of the sides that's when they say hey hey can you a little concerned that they call you hank sometimes they call me had to start to call me dean more now but that's a great compliment it is a compliment you know drink of choice baka curse word you will you. will but he follows me on twitter they know this one well. well it's the greatest way to the greatest word ever how could you ever answer that question with my great or damn when you can say. can we said morey oh i'm here with lenny bruce used to say i don't know we'll run this but his middle name bruce yet a great many was a fair one is colloquial for him because since it's cool and such a great words you know uncommon carnal knowledge as was stands for most of them to good as so says that means and of course if someone says to me you see i get it when i get mad at someone i say. to you for
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ever like. that's not you then why is it that this is in the dictionary or slang it's part of american culture we see it on television why do you think people bennett i don't know i don't care what their problem is it's it's such a great word you know i use it a lot unfortunately you get my mom tried to get me to stop she paid somebody like a hundred bucks and to try to get me to stop saying and i can't do it that is in it's in p.g. movies and right is it as well but yeah we get it we get to say it in the break about good luck to you do you think there are other pleasures what the. thanks so i guess the nars and a gun be sure to watch the final season of breaking bad sundays at nine on amc and remember you can find me on twitter it can be things if you ever find here again so you.
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