and. ten pm here in moscow the threat of an imminent western attack on syria seems to be receding britain's lawmakers are wrestling currently with the prime minister's attack plans while president obama is under pressure to get congress approval. although walking to the cues is president obama of using chemicals on civilians r.t. later in the program looks at america's own murky past from deadly agent orange in vietnam to depleted uranium in europe iraq. also ahead goodbye to guantanamo is to algeria to repack created from the infamous prison facility we ask what's going to happen to many more who were cleared for release long ago.

hello there good evening it says it's just after ten pm in moscow my name is kevin irwin this is r.t. the us and british strive to launch a military operation against syria's come up against new hurdles both at home and abroad in westminster parliament's been debating for hours now with the problem is drop again skeptical m.p.'s david cameron told them it's highly likely that the assad regime is behind the attack but there is no one hundred percent proof let's go live to london r.t. sarah firth is the other sarah hours of talking in the commons what's been said so far. well the case being made for action in syria right now in the house of commons you've got this hefty eight hour debate and remember at the end of it no longer looks like we're going to get any decisive decision on whether military action will be taken m.p.'s have been the calls from some of the break they were asked to decide during this debate on whether the u.k. would join a u.s.

led strikes on syria if they went ahead with the prime minister being forced to water down that motion after labor refused to back it and say no a second vote will be needed before any military action can be authorized the prime minister there making his case for military action today in the house of commons he wants a military action and very emotive language at times coming from the prime minister saying he's convinced the assad regime is behind the alleged chemical weapons attack we saw the government publish their intelligence dossier today the prime minister saying fundamentally this is a judgment call let's take a listen to what he said crucially the chairman in his letter to me makes this point absolutely clear he says this and i quote there are no alternative scenarios to regime responsibility now i'm not standing here and saying goes some peace or some pieces of intelligence that i've seen all the gypsy in the world won't see that convinces me that i'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong and i'm

saying this is a judgment we have to reach a judgment about what happened and who was responsible. now the discussion over what any action should be taken in syria very much taking place under the cloud of what happened in iraq and that's something the prime minister is well aware of and made note today as he was meeting and he's really been trying to differentiate between the situation in syria right now and the action they're calling for and what's taken place previously in iraq. i don't want to raise as perhaps was raised in the iraq debate the status of individual review groups of pieces of intelligence into some sort of course i religious cult so yes of course intelligence is part of this picture but let's not pretend there is one smoking piece of intelligence that can solve the whole problem this is a judgment issue and one which honorable members of we have to make a judgment call that debate ongoing at the moment we're expecting to get some

decision on that date around twenty two hundred hours pretty standard time here it's expected they will win that vote but as he said there will then need to be a second vote for ther eis any military action so really right now that the ball down in laying out that case and debating at that point lots and lots of words but unlikely that we'll see any decisive decisions taken on action today. to speak of the prime is making a very powerful and heartfelt speech could you explain to the house what he thinks the sorra do a bottom or so what are the chances that the world back taking britain to war there you think. well there is no consensus on this at the moment as we said this isn't the sentencing of what will take place in syria if you like today this is the part where they're going to be making their case very strongly and the prime minister has said that as i said if you listen to what he's been saying today a lot of emotive language he made notes of the videos of the attack the images of

children urging people to watch those videos really appealing to m.p.'s conscience's here now the opposition leader ed miliband said he isn't against completely the idea of taking action but he's made it very clear that the government should wait for the u.n. inspectors' report to give it international legitimacy and he was very very clear on that point if we look over what he was saying you know it's inspectors of course aren't going to be reporting all who was behind the attack simply on whether the attacks happened in ed miliband very clear that this is why the comments should not be taking a decision today he wants evidence to proceed with that decision so he made that point very clearly and not all conservative m.p.'s disagreed with miliband there a lot of them behind the opposition leader in that call the facts of the for any actions taken as he said it is thought that the government will win that vote later on today but they're then going to be looking at having to have that second vote

there's no consensus erica and indeed in the public many polls that have run a lot of people as we said in the context of past interventions and so i think that term humanitarian intervention there's a real feeling amongst a lot of the public that this might not be the course of action certainly seeing the rhetoric really gearing up over the last couple of days it's not out the question that you'll see a further we call of parliament for the weekend because the un inspectors are currently in damascus is thought could present their report to the un security council as early as saturday so no doubt the question that you'll actually see another parliament recall but as we said the prime minister very much having to lay out his case today and trying to convince parliament that military action is the right group so for london thank you. high ranking four military officials in britain are also warning the government against striking syria saying such an attack would have unintended consequences r.t. spoke to former first sea lord and security minister lord west who told us that

intervention might play into our qaeda as hands i was very concerned a couple of days ago when i came back into this country to find that we seem to be on a course to go straight down the track of military action the danger with saying we're going to use a limited surgical strike is all my experience of wars and i've been in them and in the lead up to them and i've been running them and things is to find that you have a lot of unintended consequences you think you're just going to do one little thing but actually things then happen and expand the nations like the u.s. and the u.k. and france and turkey need to be very very careful about what action they take we need to be very clear what is it we actually want to achieve what is the end state we want we need to have in place mechanisms militarily to ensure that things don't go beyond a certain degree but i'm not at all convinced that an attack would actually help the condition of the people within within syria we've seen what happened in iraq

you know we've seen what's happened in afghanistan i have no doubt that the al qaeda group and there are a very large group i'm afraid in the opposition funded by people who haven't thought through what this really means would be delighted if america and britain and turkey and france attacked they would be delighted by it but that doesn't mean they like us and they want to actually have they oppose us and would like to do is farm but in a temporary basis that would suit them so we need to be very very careful how we actually act a full command of the british military's chemical defense regiment told us the risk of such weapons falling into the hands of terrorists was high. pieced together all the intelligence available or i'm very much of the favor that the permanent five perhaps should form a team of experts not just chemical but military as well who could look at all the evidence that's on the ground in syria and also the intelligence and spin gathered by those intelligence services and put it together that then only the chance to

come up with are ninety to ninety five guaranteed. who is responsible i must say it firmly looks like they are they don't like the regime at the moment and there doesn't seem another plausible. explanation but at the moment the level of of confirmation is is probably only in the seventy's percent bracket cliff aeration of chemical weapons or biological weapons out of syria into terrorist groups and says is must be the worst case scenario here there have been reports on the corroborated that some terrorist groups have gained some of these stocks out of the syrian stockpile yet to be confirmed but that of course is is a possibility in future. in the u.s. meantime a growing number of american lawmakers are urging barack obama to get congressional approval and to explain the objectives of any planned attack the u.s. leader who squarely blames last week's a chemical assault on regime forces as a strike will send a strong warning to president assad meantime russia's urging the u.n.

to investigate several more incidents of alleged chemicals use which the syrian government claims the rebels are behind in neighboring israel the prospect of an attack on syria also causes a stir the government's bolstering its defense systems and partially calling up army reservists in case of a spillover that says syria's other neighbors have been responding to their increasingly unwilling to support plans for intervention is what jordan's are to say with the u.s. air base of course it says it will not be a launch pad for any military action against syria there the comments from iraq also saying it won't provide its airspace for an attack on a neighboring country lebanon chipped into egypt expect foreign minister there spoken out against military action echoing the others in saying its air space will not be available comments from egypt issuing a strong warning against foreign intervention in syria or while the british parliament stands divided over whether to strike in syria washington claims there's a moral reason to attack but as artie's would have put nano explains the use of

chemical weapons was of no concern in the wars that the us waged in the past so that you know some of the images coming up in this report are upsetting wagging its finger of moral authority the u.s. began laying the groundwork for syrian intervention on monday let me be clear. the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians the killing of women and children and innocent bystanders by chemical weapons is a moral obscenity the obscenity of chemical weapons is something us secretary of state john kerry a vietnam veteran is very familiar with five decades ago america used agent orange during the vietnam war reportedly spraying more than twenty million gallons of the chemical weapon and other herbicides over parts of southern vietnam and along the borders of neighboring laos and cambodia it had the side effects of being terribly you know toxic and it caused lots of birth defects and terrible terrible effects of a genetic nature. exposed to it the herbicides were reportedly contaminated with

dioxin a deadly compound that remains toxic for decades and causes birth defects cancer and other illnesses the vietnam red cross estimates that agent orange has affected three million people spanning three generations including at least one hundred fifty thousand children born with severe birth defects since the war ended in one nine hundred seventy five the u.s. often and its foreign policy particularly is quick to blame others for things that it itself and does and this is known around the world as there the double standard of the united states the moral and political hypocrisy of washington in iraq america's chemical weapons legacy will be remembered for generations to come since the two thousand and three invasion experts say the number of iraqi children born with birth defects has skyrocketed some babies born without eyes others without limbs in fallujah researchers can't provide statistics saying there's too many

cases to report scientists link the epidemic to citizen's exposure to white phosphorus and depleted uranium toxic weapons reportedly used by u.s. soldiers who invaded the country all of the genetic damage effects that we see in iraq in my opinion. caused by iranian weapons depleted uranium weapons and also you know undefeated uranium weapons of a new type and these a really terrible weapons these are all weapons which of absolutely destroyed the genetic integrity of the population of iraq depleted uranium is a radioactive element that engineers say increases the penetration capacity of shells it's believed to have a shelf life of some four billion years and is otherwise known as the silent murder that never stops killing there is a clear reason that the world has banned entirely the use of chemical weapons there is a reason the international community has set a clear standard and why many countries have taken major steps to eradicate these

weapons while washington continues lecturing damascus a team of u.n. investigators is in syria trying to verify if chemical weapons were used if so what kind in the meantime if the u.s. does launch a unilateral military strike against syria without u.n. approval then the country policing the world will be in clear violation of international law reporting from new york marine upper nyack r.t. . saying goodbye to get mo two detainees are finally being transferred from a notorious facility that still hasn't been closed to go report on lot of a lot more of the day's news as well after this quick break.

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all over again to inmates from guantanamo bay prison have been returned home to algeria one was cleared for transfer from the infamous facilities fought back in two thousand and six the other in twenty ten meanwhile the hunger strike at the prison over indefinite detention still ongoing with thirty six inmates still refusing food he's going to call the latest. we were transferred to all geria this is the first transfer of detainees in nearly a year and the hunger strike that the detainees had subjected themselves to certainly build up the momentum for action because before the hunger strike the administration had shut down the office of the state department that was working on the transfers there was really no hope for these men even for those who'd been cleared for release by the u.s. government a long time ago like these two all jury and men both of them had been held at guantanamo for at least eleven years both were cleared for release years ago one in two thousand and six and the other in two thousand and ten both went on hunger

strike to protest their own lawful detention one of them was systematically force fed not quite clear at the moment whether the man were released in their homeland upon upon return and algerian press service reports said their cases would be handled by competent courts the lawyer for one of. those released said algerians return from the prison camps are typically held for up to twelve days before for questioning their release certainly gives hope to other inmates who were held in guantanamo indefinitely and never charged with the crime the number of hunger strikers went down from more than one hundred people to thirty six as we learned from the updates that we're getting from guantanamo socials out of one hundred sixty four detainees now in guantanamo eighty four people have been cleared for release just like those old jury and men but we don't know how soon they may leave

the prison then you have a handful of people all a little a little more than a dozen who are considered to be high value detainees but then there are there is a list of forty six at least forty six men that have not been cleared for release but who the u.s. government indicates that they will continue to hold. those people without charge according to the u.s. government these men are too dangerous to be released and the lawyers of many of them disappear and they're trying to argue against it but they cannot be tried either in military or civilian court because of inadequate or tainted evidence against them and many many of these men were tortured which would make evidence against them inadmissible in court what the administration is now trying to do is to lift the ban on transfers to the united states so that maybe they can close the prison but still hold the man behind bars now some argue that even if congress lifts the ban on transfers to the the west that could mean just a change of address not a not

a solution to the problem of indefinite detention. and if you can those doctrine singer heads the social studies department new york's hofstra university is on the line now let's talk to him showing how to get even so these two guys at least out of guantanamo so successful in one sense but there's any better fate awaits them when they get to. the question is. it's a question it's impossible to answer right now. my understanding is that their lawyers are retriever a british organization the british organization has just said finally they got a one time of this is a great achievement. they're being held in no jury as far as we can tell. in officials have to decide their future one of the interesting things is one of the little while he was one note you know he's basically french and it's not clear what will happen to these two men for a number of the prisoners transferring them isn't a viable option so you know what is the government s'posed to do with the. well it

seems to me that the united states which maintains the right to humanitarian intervention around the world has got to start observing human and legal rights and the united states has i think a couple of options one option is if they have no evidence on people they're going to have to release them the other option is to provide trials and legal process you know one talos a military base whenever congress decides present barack obama is commander in chief there are states armed forces barack obama has the power to a lot early act he has refused to do things so but as commander in chief of the armed forces he does have that authority is that they care they any closer though do you think i try as i can see the united states foreign policy is totally adrift there is no clear foreign policy it's it's as if the country is trapped in the ill

defined bush era war on terror you know we're still not really out of iraq i don't see how are going to get in afghanistan power and susan rice seem committed to intervening in syria it nothing makes sense to me you know obama keeps drawing lines in the sand but to what purpose and it's not clear i'm going back to these guys have been repatriated we heard that one of them had been cleared for release in two thousand and six the other in twenty ten if i got any recourse now i don't think so. maybe what they need to do is to march on washington you know obama in his march to washington spoke about the power of movement to bring change i think maybe they need to march on washington organize people and begin to bring change in america's foreign policy but unlike clear if they have legal resource though i know the british government has pressed for release of a number british citizens perhaps the british government in the french government

have to demand that the united states make reparations to people who are held for three years without any charges ok thanks for thought so try to say you have hopes for university much appreciated thank you. at r.t. dot com we outline a courtroom battle between washington and tehran tonight with the rand preparing to sue the united states for masterminding the month you could see three to the top of the country democratically elected leadership is going to hold a clicks if you want to check it out so why not do so please also there is well more about mark's multi-million dollar deals assigned a record number of participants involved this year is leading russian foreign aerospace companies present the cutting edge plays out that annual huge macs as show just outside of moscow got some great pictures. will use in brief now egyptian police have arrested a senior muslim brotherhood official limiter widening crackdown on the movement's leadership. the head of the brotherhood's freedom and justice party is accused of

inciting violence and terrorism has been on the run after security forces violently dispersed the cairo citizens but protesters demanded the reinstatement of ousted president morsi. hundreds of clashed with police in western argentina as a rally against the government's shale gas plant turned violent protesters wanted to highlight the harm the drilling could do to the environment in july president for amanda's alarms to one point five billion dollars deal between a state owned oil company and the u.s. energy giant shared broad to exploiting argentina's shale gas reserves. in other world news tonight one of the biggest unions in greece the civil servants confederation has staged a nationwide strike against public layoffs the government's planning to axe thousands of state jobs to meet the austerity requirements of its international lenders more rallies and strikes are expected to take place over the coming days on sunday the finance ministers said the greece may need to get aid another bailout.

britain tries to keep tabs on its sixty thousand sex offenders by keeping a register of who and where they are but dozens including rapists and child abusers of managed to get off that list by successfully claiming their rights were breached to poly boyko explains more. a victim of a truly horrific crime as a child paul was sexually abused by a family friend from the age of eight years old his torture continued until he was sixteen so. brazenly current and. i lived in constant terror of my own mind. sixteen paul managed to turn his life around and now counsels others who like him went through the trauma of sexual abuse many victims say that the knowledge that

their former attackers will be under constant police monitoring even when released from prison is a reassurance that they won't be able to strike again but over the past year and number of convicted sex offenders have applied to come off the u.k. sex offenders register claiming they no longer pose a threat to society if a serious sex offender serves more than thirty months for their crime they're supposed to stay on the register for the rest of their lives police will monitor their whereabouts the inform local schools hospitals and potential employers about their existence within the community bought according to human rights laws it's a breach of criminals rights to keep them on the register indefinitely without the chance of appeal the register is a list that isn't made public detailing for the police all those convicted of a crime under the sexual offenses act in england and wales it includes a range of criminals from convicted rapists and paedophiles to under-age minors who

have consensual sex following a change in human rights law last year forty three sex offenders were removed from the register after successful appeals form a victim's a concerned the list of those taken off the register includes eight rapists and twenty seven child sex attackers there's a prison the. sense from this treatment program is run. on the new os we're going to these these these inmates and they said we know what to say we know how to get by we know how we can. what we need to say to prove we have been rehabilitated even if we're not the whole says that his abuse developed him of his childhood and for a long time the desire to keep on living as well you know i beg to anybody out there that says that they have a human right just think of your child just think of your grandchild and think how would you feel if that child basically was murdered it's emotionally from such a young age. and. coming up after the break the story of cuban

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