look. it's eleven pm here in moscow the top stories tonight this threat of an imminent western attack on syria seems to be receding britain's lawmakers are wrestling currently with the prime minister's attack plans while president obama is under pressure to get congress' approval. although washington accuses president assad of using chemicals on civilians are see later in the program looks at america's own murky past from deadly agent orange in vietnam to depleted uranium in iraq. and goodbye to tata motors to repatriate it from the infamous prison facility we asked what's going to happen to many more who were cleared for release long ago.

very good evening it's kevin and we do this hour about international from moscow our top story then the u.s. and british drive to launch a military operation against syria's come up against new hurdles both at home and abroad it westminster parliament spin debating for hours now with the prime minister up again skeptical piece david cameron told them it's highly likely that the assad regime is behind the attack but there's no one hundred percent proof let's go live to london r.t. sara firth is there hi sara i was are talking in the commons what's been said so far if you can somewhat up for us. well you've had this massive debate that's underway as we speak and peace debating in the house of commons of course the government nation that could pave the way for military action i thought m.p.'s were caught from their summer break at the prime minister forced to watered down that nation in the face of labour's refusal to back so

a second vote will now be needed any military action is going to be authorized but the prime minister really laying out his case in the house of commons today for military action we know that that is the course of action that he wants to take and he has been very clearly worded in saying that he believes so the assad regime is behind the alleged chemical weapons attack but of course he's being coerced on all sides including from his own party the evidence so let's take a listen to what he had to say because was using a very strong and they said language he also then went on to say that this also mentally was a judgment call i want to crucially the chairman in his letter to me makes this point absolutely clear he says this and i quote there are no alternative scenarios to regime responsibility and i'm not standing here and saying those some peace or some pieces of intelligence that i've seen all the gypsy in the world won't see that convinces me that i'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong i am

saying this is a judgment we all have to reach a judgment about what happened and who was responsible. now the government did release an intelligence report today that had said that there was a seventy five to eighty five percent likelihood that the assad regime came out in a chemical weapons attack but a lot of critics are quick to point out that there again was a lot of logic a lot of judgment in that report at the very end a little very little in the way of that to detail and again that's what the prime minister was being pushed on today in that debate and again he was feeling very much back on that term on judgment and we take a listen you can hear him mention it again during that debate i don't want to raise as perhaps was raised in the iraq debate the status of individual review groups of pieces of intelligence into some sort of cause are religious cult so yes of course intelligence is part of this picture but let's not pretend there is one smoking

piece of intelligence that can solve the whole problem this is a judgment issue and one which honorable members of we have to make a judgment now the opposition leader ed miliband has been calling for the government to have evidence preceeding any decision he wants the u.n. inspectors to finish up their report to present that report as that that is needed to get international legitimacy and the prime minister's been responding again to those calls facts for action. to speak of the problem is making a very powerful and heartfelt speech could be explained in house why he thinks the president did this there seems to be no logic for this chemical attack and others what's more and some people do but i think if he reads the it's a very good question if you read the conclusions this is where they find the greatest difficulty of ascribing motives now lots of motives have been ascribed but in the end we can't know the mind of this brutal dictator all we can do is make

a judgment about whether it is better to act or not to act and whether to make a judgment about whether he's responsible or not responsible in the end these are all issues of judgment and as members of parliament we will have to make them. still a couple of hours to go on that debate before we'll see that take place i asked today the point of the commons vote the prime minister space person reported as having said that it was to give m.p.'s a chance to condemn a war quite a bit as he said certainly things are very emotive language from the prime minister today at laying out his case whether it will be enough to convince the house and indeed his m.p.'s in his own party and the rest of the country i think remains to be saying well that is the big question what is the feeling there. is the feeling that employees will go with committing britain to go forward militarily or not. well certainly this is going to be a real test now on this vote as to whether or not the prime minister can get that

consensus we've seen a real lack of unity over this as he said pushed very hard from the opposition leader ed miliband he made his point very clear about he said international the just in the sea he also made note of this timeline being dictated from elsewhere setting does calling into question very much now a lot of people looking at britain's relationship with the u.s. the calls of this peace deal whether or not britain will join any u.s. led strikes in syria if they go ahead the mood amongst the public here there's a lot of concern especially given what's gone on in the past with iraq certainly the prime minister is very well aware of that and try to draw a line and make a differentiation between the two cases that putting his case very strongly but as we said this isn't going to be a case now of seeing britain actually going to war over the weekend and that rhetoric it's certainly been ramped up in the last few days what you could see its

parliament recalled before it's back in session that isn't totally out of the question it's thought that the u.n. inspectors are going to present their initial findings on saturday said that's a possibility that you could see the parliament because of course we're going to be waiting for that to see the outcome and that's really going to be the critical measure for david cameron is going to be the outcome of that as to whether or not he can get that consensus or are there to serve in london thanks we have to from the united kingdom our own king forward truth britain are also warning the government against roy he was serious saying such a turk would have unintended consequences we spoke to four move first sea lord and security minister lord worst who told us that intervention might play right into the homes of. i was very concerned a couple of days ago when i came back into this country to find that we seem to be on

a course to go straight down the track of military action the danger with saying we're going to use a limited surgical strike is all my experience of wars and i've been in them and in the lead up to them and i've been running them and things is to find that you have a lot of unintended consequences you think you're just going to do one little thing but actually things then happen and expand the nations like the u.s. and the u.k. and france and turkey you need to be very very careful about what actually take we need to be very clear what is it we actually want to achieve what is the end state we want we need to have in place mechanisms militarily to ensure that things don't go beyond a certain degree but i'm not at all convinced that attack would actually help the condition of the people within within syria we've seen what happened in iraq you know we've seen what's happened in afghanistan i have no doubt that the al qaeda group and there are a very large group i'm afraid in the opposition funded by people who haven't thought through what this really means would be delighted if america and britain

and turkey and france attacked they would be delighted by it but that doesn't mean they like us and they want to actually have they oppose us and would like to do is farm but in a temporary basis that would suit them so we need to be very very careful how we actually act meanwhile syria's neighbors and other regional powers are increasingly are willing to support plans for intervention this is what jordan said to say recourses a u.s. air base it says it won't be a launching pad for any military action against syria comment from iraq as well saying it will not provide its airspace for an attack on a neighboring country lebanon has also made comment foreign minister speaking out against military action echoing the others and saying you get its airspace will be available. for comment from egypt there you go issuing a strong wall the again foreign intervention in syria. meantime. claims that even if the resolution on syria was blocked it would affect the decision on whether to strike syria or not however there are no plans for a no fly zone or a full scale intervention according to

a state department representative let's get the american side of it report is in new york for an update stateside the tell us what the white house. may be next to what we think well the principal deputy press secretary to the white house josh earnest says that the u.s. will make a decision on the response the use of chemical weapons in syria even if russia uses its veto power to block up attentional resolution within the united nations security council during a press briefing mr earnest said that russia has blocked previous resolutions in the u.n. security council three times and washington feels like moscow plans to do it again now the white house says it will not allow russia or even the u.n. the u.s. congress to serve as an obstruction for president barack obama in his efforts to make a decision on intervening in syria now it's already been reported that the u.s. is ready to act against syria even without a mandate from the u.n.

security council and these words are just underscoring that well the u.n. security council to know what's expected to come from the. that's right the five members of the united nations security council are meeting for a second day in a row that's the u.s. the u.k. france china and russia now they are discussing the text of britain's. u.n. security council draft resolution which is has presented now according to reports this. draft resolution condemns the august twenty first alleged chemical weapons attack on rebel held areas in syria it blames damascus for the chemical weapons attack and it also seeks council authorization for all necessary measures to be used by the international community to protect syrian civilians from chemical weapons now all necessary measures under chapter seven of the u.n. charter allows for the use of force that freeze was also used. to counsel

resolution that paved the way for the u.s. the u.k. and france to launch a military intervention into libya now the five permanent members of the security council failed to reach any agreement when they first met on wednesday to discuss the u.k. sponsored draft resolution which we know is backed by the u.s. and france china and russia are not certain that the syrian government has used chemical weapons and have warned about jumping to conclusions russia has publicly stated that the council should wait for the report from the weapons inspectors that are currently in syria in damascus before discussing any resolution on syria and the u.s. of course is claiming to have evidence that it will share in the coming days with the public evidence it says that points the fact that the syrian government is responsible for the cap the chemical weapons attack we should point out though that even the un secretary-general ban ki moon said that the u.n. team in damascus needs to be given more time to establish facts and at

a press conference in geneva on wednesday the u.n. joint special envoy to syria lakhdar brahimi also said that a military strike in response to the alleged use of chemical. weapons in syria it needs security council approval but the united states maintains a position that if chemical weapons were used in syria there needs to be consequences and they believe that the syrian government needs to needs to suffer those consequences but many experts and many critics say that when it comes to chemical weapons the u.s. is throwing stones while standing in a glass house. wagging its finger of moral authority the u.s. began laying the groundwork for syrian intervention on monday let me be clear. the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians the killing of women and children and innocent bystanders by chemical weapons is a moral obscenity the obscenity of chemical weapons is something u.s.

secretary of state john kerry a vietnam veteran is very familiar with five decades ago america used agent orange during the vietnam war reportedly spraying more than twenty million gallons of the chemical weapon and other herbicides over parts of southern vietnam and along the borders of neighboring laos and cambodia it had the side effects of being terribly toxic and it caused lots of birth defects and terrible terrible effects of the genetic nature. exposed to it the herbicides were reportedly contaminated with dioxin a deadly compound that remains toxic for decades and causes birth defects cancer and other illnesses the vietnam red cross estimates that agent orange has affected three million people spanning three generations including at least one hundred fifty thousand children born with severe birth defects since the war ended in one nine hundred seventy five the u.s. often and its foreign policy particularly is quick to blame others for things that

it itself and does and this is known around the world as there the double standard of the united states the moral and political hypocrisy of washington in iraq america's chemical weapons legacy will be remembered for generations to come since the two thousand and three invasion experts say the number of iraqi children born with birth defects has skyrocketed some babies born without eyes others without limbs in fallujah researchers can't provide statistics saying there's too many cases to report scientists link the epidemic to citizen's exposure to white phosphorus and depleted uranium toxic. weapons reportedly used by u.s. soldiers who invaded the country all of the genetic damage effects that we see in iraq in my opinion were caused by iranian weapons depleted uranium weapons and also you know undefeated uranium weapons of a new toy and these a really terrible weapons these weapons which have absolutely destroyed the genetic

integrity of the population of iraq depleted uranium is a radioactive element that engineers say increases my yeah it should be artsy t.v. on america. and matters and is otherwise known as the silent murderer that never stops killing there is a clear reason that the world has banned entirely the use of chemical weapons there is a reason the international community has set a clear standard and why many countries have taken major steps to eradicate these weapons while washington continues lecturing damascus a team of u.n. investigators is in syria trying to verify if chemical weapons were used if so what kind in the meantime if the u.s. does launch a unilateral military strike against syria without u.n. approval then the country policing the world will be in clear violation of international law reporting from new york or in upper nile r.t.

. let's not get the thoughts of a former u.n. assistant secretary general who is also the u.n. humanitarian coordinator for iraq and yvonne spawning showing us live from germany so delighted to have you on the program from spain where this so it's the waiting game no than until saturday as far as france and britain are concerned they said they'll wait for that u.n. inspectors' report but end of the day is it going to make any difference is frozen america's concerned or the bigger picture. well i would say in the back room but decisions have been made but neither washington nor london or paris can completely ignore the dark shadow of the rockets that hangs over the national discussion i think. the need all the opposition in the house of commons really brown told me was right when he says the key word in all this is evidence we need a button before we can debate what's next and we should not i think it's very

dangerous if we know. that the swedish chief is all here and team and the mass and weapons inspectors will be able to bring total transparency in there about the question what was your best and who used that. back to new york i think you've been paying a very long time before one can venture. on to these two are he questions and if your response is the best as teams to be have them there was government involvement then i would still argue that the security council has their responsibility to use peaceful means to debate this issue. because downing street still saying. they could go it alone

without un security council consent justified because of humanitarian reasons say i protect the people within syria that they're saying the government has been protected america's using that as well this is a valid excuse is it a valid reason i think it is completely misunderstanding who has the responsibility. for responsibility to protect this responsibility. there's in the u.n. security council not in the u.s. congress in the house of commons on the white house whitehall i would definitely make the case anything outside of the united nations security council on that force is getting on very slippery ground and will lead down the road strong. and that violation of international law will the kind that we have seen in iraq well talking of which you served as u.n.

humanitarian coordinator for iraq do you see similarities here in the build up to what happened then we're talking about the unknown if they had not existed evidence of w m d's do you see the same thing happening here all the parallels of the op. there's also a very build up. some weeks ago we were told the public was told there may be a weapons of mass fraction but then the news in syria said it turned out to be there were likely to be such weapons involved and now we have very clear very critical and clear statements by both chuck hagel the secretary of defense of the u.s. and marshall by john kerry who saying we have evidence. and have evidence that is better than what i call them presented on the fifth of february two

thousand and three to the u.n. security council which turns out to be totally faulty and the then should go ahead and release that evidence in the security come hans von sponeck for my us assistant secretary general u.n. humanitarian coordinator for iraq in your time thank you for your a most experienced screwed up in the program thank you. saying goodbye to get mo coming up to date detainees are finally being transferred from a notorious facility that still isn't being closed had got their story and more on that as well as the rest of the day's news in just a minute or two. with the. technology innovation all the least of elements from around russia. the future covered. you know sometimes you see

a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big show. speak your language. programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on. reporting from the world talks about the v.o.i.p. interviews intriguing story for you. to find out more visit our big. this is our team two inmates from guantanamo bay prison have been returned home to

algeria one was cleared for transfer indeed from the infamous facility as far back as two thousand and six the other back in twenty ten meantime the hunger strike at the prison over indefinite detention still ongoing with thirty six inmates still refusing food. as the latest. we were transferred to all geria this is the first transfer of detainees in nearly a year and the hunger strike that the detainees had subjected themselves to certainly build up the momentum for action because before the hunger strike the administration had shut down the office of the state department that was working on the transfers there was really no hope for these men even for those who'd been cleared for release by the u.s. government a long time ago like these two all jury and men both of them had been held at guantanamo for at least eleven years both were cleared for release years ago one in two thousand and six and the other in twenty ten both went on hunger strike to

protest their own lawful detention one of them was systematically force fed not quite clear at the moment whether the demand were released in their homeland upon upon return and algerian press service reports said their cases would be handled by competent courts the lawyer for one of. those released said algerians return from the prison camps are typically held for up to twelve days before for questioning their release certainly gives hope to other inmates who were held in guantanamo indefinitely and never charged with the crime the number of hunger strikers went down from more than one hundred people to thirty six as we learned from the updates that we're getting from guantanamo socials out of one hundred sixty four detainees now in guantanamo eighty four people have been cleared for release just like those old jury and men but we don't know how soon they may leave the prison then you have

a handful of people all a little a little more than a dozen who are considered to be high value detainees but then there are there is a list of forty six at least forty six men that have not been cleared for release but who the u.s. government indicates that they will continue to hold. those people without charge according to the u.s. government these men are too dangerous to be released and the lawyers of many of them disagree and they're trying to argue against it but they cannot be tried either in military or civilian court because of inadequate or tainted evidence against them that made many of these men were tortured which would make evidence against them inadmissible in court what the administration is now trying to do is to lift the ban on transfers to the united states so that maybe they can close the prison but still hold the man behind bars now some argue that even if congress lift the ban on transfers to the the west that could mean just a change of address not

a not a solution to the problem of indefinite detention. a corresponding washington i don't see the comber along a courtroom battle between washington and with the issuing a character who is a proponent of paying rather to sue united states must amount of the money fifty three coup that toppled the country's democratically elected leadership so interesting stories and twists and turns not what i can tell you it's not. also to multibillion dollar deals assigned in a record number of participants involved this year of marx's leading a russian foreign aerospace companies are presenting their latest cutting edge planes at that air show in moscow it's a world beater you want to see the pictures great pictures that are r t v dot com. the world news stories now you should police have arrested a senior muslim brotherhood official amid a widening crack on the movement's leadership mohamad. head of the brotherhood's freedom and justice party to accused of inciting violence and terrorism. been on the run after security forces violently dispersed the cairo sit ins where

protesters demanded to reinstate votes to president morsi. hundreds of clashed with police in western argentina as a rally against the government's shale gas plans to violent the protesters wanted to highlight the harm the drilling could do to the environment in july president fernando is amounts to one point five billion dollars deal. when a state owned oil company and the us energy giant chevron to its lloyd's argentina's shale gas reserves. did up ahead max and stacey got a few choice words on the big corporations pushing for shale gas contracts despite the environmental risks it's an x. program after this break.

so the historic and for many americans tragic ruling in the bradley manning case just got a lot weirder because he has declared that he wants to live the rest of his life as a woman named chelsea well i'm glad his lawyer got him to keep this revelation to himself until the end of the trial but sadly he really should have pushed for him to keep quiet about this just a bit longer why you ask because if there is one thing i know about the mainstream media is that the second sex is involved everything else instantly becomes a distant second case in point what is the legacy of bill clinton is that the job murderer who ushered in nafta no is it a violent foreign policy throughout the world somewhat similar to bush's and obama's in locations like haiti somalia in the balkans etc no his legacy is based on the least important sin he committed as a president cheating on his wife for the years couldn't wasn't office the lewinsky scandal just smothered everything else i am pretty sure that if i know the

mainstream media they are going to use manning as gender confusion to overshadow and drown out everything else involved in the case but that's just my opinion. welcome to the kaiser report on max kaiser texas totally fracs texas is so frakt some towns will soon be running out of water and now the united kingdom wants

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