today on larry king now kevin smith the filmmaker actor and off they're on his last feature film if i can't bring anything new to the game and i assure you i cannot there's no point in me stepping up to the plate on why he started smoking marijuana i like who i was when i was smoke and i was like him i'm more free i'm not guarded and stuff way more open that's what i like to be i was the person i most wanted to be in life on becoming a comic book nerd it just warms your heart a forty two a still well up when i read the dark knight returns the first miller's graphic novel like that to me that was not my literature of that was my my passion that's today on larry king now. welcome to another edition of larry king now kevin smith filmmaker actor best known

for his coke classic films perch and chasing amy he's co-founder of smog code you know it's about so i don't know if it has serious i mean here's a man a legend since mago makes about much more legitimate this is a series of podcasts and web videos and shows also on hulu the second season of the show comic book men airs sundays on amc you actually call yourself i want to get this right a fat lazy slob who did good that was if i was on the book i don't really walk around and call myself like i don't introduce myself at my kids i hope i don't feel like i am marley's that fat lazy slob who didn't call you a fat lazy obviously outside but i'm reminded of how fat i am when i have to sit down to do an interview which i can't stand to do the moment i walked in this room saw two chairs a table as a jesus you don't like this for no well this is this is the least flattering this is me at my best and believe me this is even great but this is me at my best right at the moment as a down everything goes self like boom the all the chins come out in the gut so it's

like job. you need a little dude over here going to have you know you got the bid for to nothing covered so right now we look like a scene from return the judge you know who's built like that to form a goalie of the old toronto maple leafs as you. say your good man you suddenly made me feel better about being fat how did perched come about clerks happen because i would sit around and watch movies my whole life and then one day i saw a movie called slacker richard linklater directed i want to new york to see it was very rare and characteristic for jersey burbs could read about it in a village voice went up to see it in new york and. this counts as filmmaking i want in a non a dismissive like this looks like crap conaway but it wasn't about anything when the three act structure nothing exploded there was no pirates no superheroes were in that in those days no die hard in that was the big formula point so what was it it was the fact that these do. texas nowhere's ville texas made this

movie on their own that inspired me it emboldened me i was like maybe i can make a movie in nowheres ville new jersey now the fact of the matter is it was made in austin texas which is not only the capital of texas from what i understand but also a big arts capital so had i known that there was going to that that austin was a power center for creativity i doubt i ever would have seen slacker and said oh i should make clerks i still would have felt a little bit impotent so what happened was i left there and i was like you know what man maybe i could do this maybe i could do the filmmaking thing like these kids in texas went back to jersey is where i live i was working this convenience store i said i'll start writing a script based on this interview that rob rodriguez ago did. had done once and he said take stock everything you've got is like never mind write until like a budget you don't have or are writing things that you have no access to think about what you've got access to write your script around and i was sitting in the command of never really seen it could mean store movie so let me do that but really

it came down to this day i was watching movies my whole life. never saw myself or my friends represented on screen you know insane even in movies where it's like it's the slobs against the snobs my caddyshack or or animal house or some bag of the day you root for the underdog still didn't recognize myself in any of those characters because i wouldn't consider myself insanely rebellious like most of the characters they put forward in comedies of the day so i just wanted to see some a look like me and my friends and so when i saw that richard linklater made this movie slacker with him and his friends in a corner of the world that nobody generally tell stories about i said this is what i would like to do i want to go home do with my friends in jersey how do you become a hit i still don't know i probably because harvey weinstein was behind it was a miramax film we wind up with the imprint tour of miramax the movie so definitely that's a big boom what happened was we took him to sundance we screened the movie first two screenings like people seem to really dig it but it was quiet there was

a movie called go fish that was very popular at the beginning a festival a lesbian black and white movie we had the straight boy black and white movie that a lesbian one way more sexy so that there was a lot of action i'm on that film the beginning of the festival and we were like all there is a dirty movie just once go fish sold at the festival suddenly they were like what do we talk about next and people like have you seen this movie clerks and our screenings had sold out so by the time we got to the fourth screening there was did a marked as lovely would be a work done acquisitions at miramax he was a big champion the movie was from new jersey bergen county not were we were the county but he was like this this place is gone i think this speaks to some lost generate i don't know is talking about because there's just me and my friends over this is about me and my friends but he was like no this is an echo of a time of this period now this speaks to generation x. so much so that he was like take off the chaos to make it clear it's with the next hour is a terrible idea so anyway he's a champion of the flag and he told harvey harvey weinstein is a lawyer he said you got to come you've got to come see this movie well first he

showed it to him at. tribeca you know at the at the screening room there are we walked out the first ten minutes is this monologue where does anti smoking seems like he's anti smoking and harvey in those this particularly was a smoke like chimneys nine cigarettes at once the cartoon octopus smoke and stuff so he got to that scene he was just like i'm done and he walked out martellus brought him back to the screening that we were doing at sundance the fourth one at the egyptian and once again mark was like at the same point in the movie harvey started to get up mark so you just sit down mother held him in place of the caesar you just sit there and think thirty seven and a few minutes later there's a scene in the movie reference is the number thirty seven and that's where the movie was regarded to take off huge and harvey was there and he started laughing too and at the end of it all i was there for the whole screen as one of those screenings it did change my life it was a wonderful screen regardless it like put it in the pantheon of top ten screenings i've done for anything i've ever had it still remains in there and i could still

hear to this day like of all the laughter in the theater and the egyptians are they used by the three hundred seaters i'm like that but of all that laughter man you can hear one guy very loud. sound like go like that was his name robert de niro in cape fear was smoking a cigar that's what it sounds like you've allowed brain and noxious i thought it was i miss my father like as a straw man or something like that and we found out afterwards it was harvey weinstein always an old friend he published my list two books there's a great. void is nobody like harvey yeah he honestly changed my life i got measures of them too obviously especially because i worked with them for nearly nearly well fifteen years by the time we rafted before we get we get to come in you know high school. you wound up you were going in a convenience store what was your goal did you want to be a film what do you know i had none i would talk a lot of people in my life at the time my mother my mother was ok with me not picking a direction because my brother and sister had gone right to college after high

school and they were like four and five years older than me so. they left the nest and i think my mom was just going to harass him like i like another one to stick around who want to be i had nothing i didn't have anything like this is what i thought when i was a kid i've worked at so many delis that i said i know how to make a sandwich obviously as a maybe i'll own a sandwich you know i tried to think what would a fat man do for a living and i was like a jelly sandwich shop owner so i assume that one day i would run a deli and in my wildest dreams i would own a comic book store i'd run a comic book store for those atomic bush i did before film absolutely and so it wasn't until i saw slider until i started thinking about a career and who let me go pursue film and there you know i was too late to go to film school twenty one so i just pretty much figured i'd go to the tech school it was a big group or but that period from my post high school to the moment i'm like oh i'm a clerks now i just found recently one of the podcasts we do of course is called smog

kisses the first one which is the keystone the touchstone all the podcast it's come what i do every week with scott mosier on the on the recent six episode we had this mini series within the series because we're up to like over two hundred episodes at this point and i found these cassettes these micro because i used to roam around on a bike pedaling around my neighborhood recording my thoughts and age it sounds like i'm fifty in the county most stuff i'm talking about turns out i'm twenty was a little embarrassing but is nice to is nice to go back to listen to him we did a month six episodes and it was like listening to the genesis because there's a kid who's like i don't like where i am i want to do something i don't know what it is and i know in one year he sees slacker he's off and running but at that point it's getting to listen to because he's at such a crossroads he can't get himself to the next place doesn't know what his purposes so when you ask like what did i want to do sandwich shop you know was was the most realistic complex store was a dream nothing else i didn't have any interest i wasn't like spielberg run around

super eight camera knows there's only so you so you see. excess must be surprising to you very much every day you know as a sort of a crazy kind of surprised up inching yourself never tell me about comic book men is going to do a second season it started out as a podcast yes the show's inside a comic book store it has. what is it's the sis if i was going to do a cheap show to capture the geek imagination because cheap is always key word they don't want to hear expensive they want to hear an expensive i said everyone's doing reality shows man like show this audience themselves like show us our world takes on a complex story like the short hand as they are now the simpsons of the company man man as a character for twenty years of people understand like you know these cut people inside a comic store different breed whatsoever there's a stereotype we could flip the stereotype all our guys you know the stereotypes like you know. all these dudes are married middle aged men and whatnot they're just

very passionate about the subject matter about complex a gay culture so i said you guys should do that nice to me take it back to an mc one four and i was even thinking about my friends i said just go to a complex store find the most to serve a one on the planet roll camera these days of geniuses they're really really funny so the amc once said we want to see a pilot was blew my mind as a pilot for a reality show but they want to see a presentation want to look like so charlie goes where do we do that and i said you know what did i own a company store in red bank new jersey so we could shoot their no cost no location fee and the doods who are in the store they do a podcast for network called telling steve dave the really funny so they can stand in for this pilot so we'll see what the show would look like so it's limitless of the podcast charlie he went back listen to him then he was just like these guys you're an idiot these guys are the show why we look at any place else these guys originally said yeah like i'm to god no idea i didn't see it like i wasn't a visionary where i'm like yeah i can get my friends on t.v. it happened almost organically an accidental what do they do so tom bush told them

to do that a little bit as i. it stood at the time i said to pawn stars in a comic book store and it didn't quite work out like that there's a little bit of that it wound up being this is the angle i didn't even see it's kind of clerks the reality show is about these dude bionic our services build globalism in a by coming by complex and people also come in to sell stuff there's a lot of transactions that people look at and get cash for like geek stuff so there's an element of the show that people just love to watch the merchandise come through it's like i haven't seen that in twenty years i had that when i was up there very much anything stuff like that a piece of their youth man then like you know there's even a sequence this year somebody bring some to the door walter flanagan who's kind of the lead man at the store is one of the most kind of low keyed our people on the planet something came to the door that little up like a child that was it was awesome to watch and i think that's what the audience by. kevin about that live at the time that there are all the things he does right after this.

new york london. the whole world is on. the end of the original one of the one on the end there are five that to hang up the point that building at the end of the street another one the more transparent society gets the money or the public tears become we see military and state and police forces mobilized against people who blend into the city to inhabit the city the more people trust electronic devices the more defenseless the. fear that there's a thousand ways hierarchy. of the new cultural phenomena like. the face i think people.

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he should be one of the most interesting people that kevin smith he's at the balls about saying every word of the age got everything going for him now i'm told that hit somebody will be your last feature film why you know i did i directed films i directed more films than i ever imagined i would clerks was always meant as a sort of calling card film make this and show people we know how to make a movie in the next time they'll give us one hundred thousand dollars and not paying for it on my own credit cards or something like that so everything that followed was just beyond expectation it was like hoping for a kiss and get the most amazing blow job you've ever had in your life really i scored big on that and then just when she's finished like in two hours we'll go again so for me i was like this opened up everything will expectational whatsoever everything since then has been a gift that all being said you do anything for almost twenty years you know this you know it's time to move on to something else and not because i'm like i hate it

or i've never loved it of course i love it there's a reason to walk away from things if you love them so much like i can't bring a thing new to the game and i assure you i cannot there's no point me stepping up to the plate like some other young buck who i used to be twenty years ago has a more interesting story tonight to do what things are all i'm not going away trust me i just don't want to direct i don't especially because that world right now the economics don't support the kind of stories i want to tell they like big bombastic alcala how important is marijuana in your life massively important like incredible . addicted. me jeff to have it every day know that i wouldn't have to but i couldn't imagine not having it every day that would be her ability no no no i don't think it's addiction at all. because i can easily put it down i've gone overseas to europe and i've had to be without and i'm not like god i'm flipping tables but it's almost like brushing my teeth to me where it's just like well i should do it every day today like the moment i wake up i'm awake and baker but i

made this deal with myself a long time ago see i made it thirty eight years clean and sober i never touched anything i was very boring individual thirty eight seth rogen i'm working on zack and miri make a porno he. can't say introduce me to we don't know it existed but he kind of he this was a dude who could work forever juggle three projects and here he was a stoner you know he talked about being stoner so this guy's managing i never met anyone like this i knew jason mewes my friend of play james. and he had like an oxycontin addiction to heroin addiction so for me that was drugs and all drugs are bad some amps are going to rogen and i'm like this is the same bed like weeds not bad in a cigar time man i tried it when i was younger few times maybe a handful of times which is weird because i made movies about stoners but i never really got into it so i said i'm going to give this is shot to give a shot with rogen we were done we wrapped the movie we're in the editing room back in pittsburgh and the way we celebrated the end of it was awesome i like to i was

when i was smoking i was like him i'm more free i'm not guarded and stuff way more open that's why i like to be i was the person i most wanted to be in life not the person i internalized on man i wish i could be that cat suddenly i was that cat i threw off all this stuff and i was like i am that guy the only thing holding me back is meat so i go home and i don't touch it again for eight months never even think about as the guy i was then i got at this movie and you got to be responsible stuff like that stoner silly accounts but we cut so i think it was non months later man we were home alone me and my wife is fourth of july our kid was out she was a big bear with her grandparents so we had a place to ourselves and when i was a kid if i had an empty house i merely called the anybody in the remote three town area who might give me a hand job man or woman didn't matter so out. respond to an empty house even in late thirty's or early forty's when the house is empty has a list just do something wrong let's do something weird let's get hookers over something transgressive and my wife of course will go for any of the first things she said was she was like we got some weed for christmas somebody gave us we and

this was five years ago so we won we found it was very crumbly and i tried to role is best to join a and we smoked together and it was amazing like there's somebody i've known you know for years ago at a kid with and you think you know them inside now and suddenly it is different suddenly at the she even the even the kind of him premature of who i was to her that i would put forward i'm your husband i was able to drop and just be like after ten years this is who i really am and in this way better and blah blah blah so it kind of changed me in that way that i was like i like you and i said to myself this is that i'm not going to i can't get into this too much i'll smoke whenever my day my work day is done i'll work all day long six o'clock smoke a joint now be my joint for they'll be amazing and then i started like maybe a week in us a you know i don't really have a job to job one i wait until six o'clock noon is probably best for someone like me in the arts known i would give myself til noon and then zack and miri open didn't do well to forget i'm awake and baker's

a stairway going up and smoke and this is the deal i made with myself this is important cause i don't advocate this for everyone not everyone can have a way to see my wife's take two hits of a joint have to call the ambulance because she was like law i smacked me in the face it was like being in fight club and so i said this is what i'll do i'll smoke weed as long as i'm productive i can't be got smokes weed watches t.v. and stuff getting way into sponge bob i will smoke weed and i will work so the moment i light up do some creative record a podcast write a script cut a podcast cut your movie anything creative that's remotely work weren't it or also arts oriented so that was three years ago and if you look at my output over the last three years i used to just make a movie every two years and now it's like there's only an podcasts there's too many shows there's. this she knows i sat down how she's thirteen and i had a conversation with her when she was eleven to listen i started smoking marijuana and she's like what's that and i was it's like oh a threat they don't cover this on sponge bob and i had to explain what it was and

she goes is it will you die and i said here's the good news i said i want to work a pedia which as we all know is guaranteed be truth on the internet i says to the kid aside once a week peta there's never been a single death from marijuana i said cigarette smokers you know they die all the thomas a but i put that aside i'm like your mother and i've started smoking weed and so i'm going to live forever i sold it to the kid properly she's going to smoke it the no not she's not interested and i don't not at all she's shown no interest one iota of interest why should i be canadian i do i want to be canadian not just purely committed here's the thing i love canada the big bad way and always have been big canada file was born new jersey so i think i understand canada a lot you know he grew up in new jersey in the shadow of new york and people always like new york rock's new jersey which is toxic waste jokes canada has grown up in the shadow of america of course as always i know you guys live next to america so i have a canadian sensibility i think i don't want to be canadian versus american but i

feel like i'm north american why can't i have access in both countries as and i love hockey so much that alone should make me a canadian when you were a kid did you go see the devils i did i picked up on the devils i was in they had lives of me then because gretzky i phone love with gretzky about the same time this is weird same time i started smoking weed a foam of wayne gretzky's long stop lying to the user but i went back and started kind of reading and catching up on games treated it like a religion dewey became a messianic figure to me i saw gretzky not as god but as you know the lessons that his father taught him i thought were as simple and beautiful platitudes as you find in the good book so like him telling is young son you know when he was a kid was first teaching in the game teaching a boy to anticipate. you know it's like you don't have to be have brawn you know have to have insane talent in this game you just have to be able to anticipate and he told the most important lesson that he's carried through life everyone quotes and stuff i phone over the years ago and the quote walter gretzky wayne gretzky's

father told him when he was young kid was don't skate to where the puck is skate to where it's going to be yeah it was sort of a sports those forces go to the ball. ok we have a couple twitter questions and these ninety ninety one wants to know if you're planning on acting on the big screen was jason using in we've got a cartoon yes and no kind of we have a cartoon movie that we're doing next year like we did the red state tour last year we took the movie out ourselves booked in theaters for all those wonderful experience as a doing a concert series it was like being a rock star in concert so we made this other movie a way cheaper mazal cartoon feature called super groovy courage to move it where you take that out and march same way we did like for about three months just go around showing the movie and then doing a podcast afterwards and whatnot so we're both were cartoons in it but there's a little bit a lot of action at the end so we'll be back in the costumes again davey sure they'll want to know what you thought of the final christopher nolan but michel i liked it so much that i did three hours of pod casting of we were talking about off

camera about how long we'd talk about sports i could talk about batman i've already done it we've got a podcast called fat man on batman and it's just me sitting down with people who've worked on the character they're pretty high on the scenes or on camera whereas voice actors in the animated various animated series so i wound up for dark knight rises i wound up doing three hours of split across two pod cast first on smog cast and then on fat man on batman i wept during the pog as you hear me talking about at the end that man is crazy dude so and it's i guess you could be like you are addicted to we love certain out of pockets going at the end he's in a he's in the bat in the bat he's flying off he's got a nuclear bomb he's going to die my friend hadn't seen the movie unexplained so i was again i was a batman fan of. forty two years i was ok with that and i was given permission to die as pathetic so out a big big fan of that movie that being said there are massive holes you could drive trucks there looks dirty if there were an anti bettman character level opponent the

bad guy i think dead shot has an incredible look not the first incarnation of him as a western guy but a dude who is also over with the buys or comic books he has in the comic book he is . like i created one that i like lies called onomatopoeia he's a character that really only works on the page will never be pulled into the movies onomatopoeia of course is like drip bang and comics comics are full of onomatopoeic addicts when you know they fire guns as blam so this character was first hunting green arrow then start hunting batman was a guy who was creepy didn't talk at all he would just say blam and then shoot you with a gun it's you like the early. green lantern yeah of course and the wonder woman absolutely i'm not i would say like in terms of collecting i never went to the golden age stuff because by the time i got into comics that stuff would be very expensive but they laid all the groundwork for the stories we still read today and there's a there's this wonderful series that i just caught up on somebody and all the downside of being busy a lot sometimes you miss stuff for years ago i remember one point jason mewes

listen to this and he played his rap music has this great man is a fresh new sound what are these guys and he's like is the wu tang clan the better over ten years you know i just have my head a madman i'll make you would know i knew bob kane very well you did right on rated batman and what jeff important here is going to miami i lived in miami get out of here and this whole concept of the he didn't like superman but because he wanted someone who couldn't fly one normal regular guy can you imagine what a billion dollar idea that was like that guy came up with that character and then there are other people the jerry robinson dick sprang who built that world with the most of the stuff you love about batman came from other cats but this was the guy who was like a man who dress. up is about fights crime simple concept captures everybody's imagination make billions of dollars but really remove the monetary it just warms your heart of forty two i still well up when i read the dark knight returns the front miller's graphic novel like that to me that was not my literature but that

was my my passion would have to do this again given our be certain i don't love it thank you thank you my guest kevin smith you can find me on twitter at king's things and i won't tell you where the find him as i want to keep my lead in followers i have two million two hundred thousand are you over maybe going by a few hundred thousand or more see you next record. please please take me very hard to take a. look. at that that would make her look.

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