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little as we reflect upon the tragic events of september eleventh there are undoubtedly many who are still seeking answers but the last twelve years we've seen nothing but corruption and deceit echoed throughout the political and media establishment all to perpetuate endless war and the erosion of our rights. this government can no longer be trusted at its word about pretty much anything and stead we need to seek out the truth for ourselves unfortunately the act of questioning anything about this event now runs the risk of being dismissed as a conspiracy theorist or a lunatic at a corporate media. that the government would deliberately kill three thousand people to accuse the president of this because of this she's protecting while interest that men are about to tell doctors say should cannot say that any member of the bush administration knew it was going to happen i wanted it to have it's a ridiculous thing to say every time rosie o'donnell says something about nine
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eleven conspiracies or the billions in your teeth being like a mind numbing government plot against you i mean it's gone too far at this point it really has. is a disgrace to want more than a stack of paperwork and a congressional seal to find out how much the government knew and what it chose to do or not do on that terrible day and perhaps the most fascinating of terms that have become a shortage for the establishment is truth or when seeking the truth become a bad thing and how the pursuit of any kind of facts becomes so objectionable look at this dismissal is deliberate it's also severely dumbing down the dialogue we should be having in fact it's an end dangerman to investigative journalism for crying out loud to question official narratives is the role of journalists this story ends and documentarians otherwise we'd just be getting our news verbatim from government press releases and most journalists who do question further get praised for their determination and courage to not accept an answer at face value. but
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first some reason nine eleven is put into a different category altogether if someone wants to dig deeper and not accept the government's analysis at face value they're considered almost un-american it makes people too comfortable too uncomfortable to believe the same criminal code ball that oversaw torture program murdered a million iraqis and started a war based on known falsehoods might just might have the lack of empathy to allow such a tragedy to occur to advance its geo political goals so if the truth or is simply a person that cares about evidence and facts and matter how ugly or uncomfortable they may be then maybe that's a label we should all embrace. i. the twelfth anniversary of the september eleventh attacks brings little solace for
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the millions of people worldwide who have serious questions concerning what happened that day is he instead of immediately investigating a monumental failure in government the bush administration opposed any program to be attacked for well over a year until mounting pressure from the victim's family members forced the issue to be addressed but once the commission was finally formed and its report released many questions were still left unanswered questions that many people in this country still have in fact a recent poll by you gov reveals that thirty eight percent of americans have some doubts about the official story we've been told one such man is bob nicol vain his son bobby was killed in one of the towers on that fateful day when i spoke to bob and first asked him why members of the commission were suspect namely lee hamilton and here's what he had to say. instrumental in. in stopping the iranian contra to geisha because of national security and telling us we're telling
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the jersey girl myself that because of national security we kid delve deeply into this matter. and that was very important to me and it just shows you have the government works i mean a big thing like iran contra covered up and of course if you study history everything is always covered right unfortunately only decades later does it out slowly the truth as i know and of course the multiple commission members actually resigned they said it was set up to fail to talk about this memo that was leaked from the nine eleven commission that talked about government minders that actually were directed to accompany witnesses testified in from the commission what role do these minders serve in the testimony process well i tell you to go to breakfast every morning i made every commission here and you see you actually had you know it's almost like you had minders with the commissioners you know they had no clue what was coming down some of me i remember sitting in a table next to curry curry and he says are you what's going on today what i'm going to say what this and that and minders were. handling testimony from other you
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know they would mine the people who are test the testifying that particular day and of course. it's important you know you just mentioned he had an outline the outline of the nine eleven commission was there before the commission started so everything had to conform to that ally so the commissioners had nothing. in it all and it's the whole time i was there each commissioner maybe had five minutes so everyone that spoke everyone that testified i remember there was no subpoenas they would only have five minutes to question these people and the commissioner wanted so and so anyone that would testify a minder would you know urge and if this is what you have to say so that i mean the hope you know it's even worth the bait about the commission in the fact that it was a useless endeavor it was not an x. and was not an investigation ben-veniste i heard him say to you know again damn it
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once he had said this is only an exposition it is not an investigation we're just laying things out and table we're not there to blame anyone and they were very condescending to all the witnesses especially government witnesses the whole nine eleven commission is based upon torture everything in that book about what happened on that day is based on torture i don't know where the uproar of the american people is you know. anyone could torture me and i would make to anything and that's a proven thing and then one of the abu zubaydah you know we haven't heard it in the papers but in two thousand and nine they let this man go well he's the one that dropped a dime on chaos and. it and he had nothing to do with nine eleven so there's nothing nothing reputable about that commission report it's a it's a piece of fiction it should be discarded it's you know. omissions and lies
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the most. larry a mission to me aside from some other really important things is the put options why were you told when you brought this up that it was just an information or you were kind of rejected and dismissed about the put options of what are they and why are they suspect put off you know as you're gambling and affirm that my son worked for merrill lynch people with him made millions upon millions of dollars you're betting the stock will fall. but you buy it at a certain level ok as that stock falls down you will you're guaranteed so much money after that fall so approximately billions of dollars of me throughout the world and the nine eleven commission how they investigate it that they merely say we cannot prove that bin laden was part of buying these options well then my question is well who is responsible for buying these auctions people made billions of dollars you don't put that kind of money in a put option it's a very it's
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a thing that a stock broker or a vest or will do you know we're early so a lot of people made a lot of money and the nine eleven commission's their only answer of was well we know bin laden had nothing to do with it so you know that circular thinking well therefore what's that mean right right and. did no other way to say didn't circular logic they didn't look into who did make this money right which is actually they just are more interested in the fact that bin laden did have nothing to do with the put options well who did that's far more interesting to me that maybe you know rich businessman actually bet that these stocks would fail i think fifteen twenty twenty five times higher than on average on any given day bob what role has the media played in shutting down this type of important question about the event that's been used the premise for the entire agenda perilous agenda to inquire reporter called me up where she called me up for an interview and i started to tell her exactly what she should be looking and i said there's another story here this seems all
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fake to me anyway she said to me she says she says i am the problem and this is indicative of the entire industry and the problem i guarantee if i go back to the had it airs they will not put this on the news i can go around the world people will listen to me anywhere but here in the united states it doesn't happen i mean this is first really the first interview a fad within the united states where i can talk about nine eleven and the murder. my son well unfortunately it's on our russian network bob that really is indicative of how much the abysmal failure the entire us media apparatus has become unfortunately it's just an act go on even though it's run by corporations which should be of grave concern to every american thank you for your courage for questioning government narratives it's crucial it's important thank you so much bob nicol brinn nine eleven family member we won't stop fighting for justice for your son. still ahead we'll dissect obama's address the nation about the potential
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strike in syria when we come back. new york london. the whole world is on the. sea to you. a father one down the end there are five the two hang up the coins out the link at the end of the street another one the more transparent society gets the money or the puppet tears become we see military and state police forces mobilized against people who blend into the city who inhabit the city the more people trust electronic devices the more defenseless they are the fear that has a thousand on. our r.t. . if the main competitor girl on the market is mother nature.
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may customers struggle with to. fight for each drop from an old turkey supplier. let people think i or prices pure want to. live on our teeth. they use it up there and wash their hands. and flush their toilets when the same lawyer in this series is selling and spraying water. i. bought a broken up time time programming last night to once again beat his syrian war drum and assert the same unsubstantiated evidence about the assad regime's use of chemical weapons now after thirteen minutes of proclaiming the right of the us to
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strike regardless if i may mention the diplomatic solution that russian syria presented calling it an encouraging sign but just in case a last ditch effort at diplomacy fails obama made crystal clear that the world should be rambling with fear at the overwhelming might of america's military machine. let me make something clear the united states military doesn't do pinpricks even a limited strike will send a message to assad that no other nation can deliver yeah go america that's right we don't do any of that wimpy pinprick stuff when we bomb you you better expect the full arsenal of our tomahawk cruise missiles to reign hellfire on your entire population wait a second i thought this was supposed to be a limited strike and i that sounds to me like a pinprick solution take out a couple of select targets and no other nation can deliver this kind of strike let's think what those america export to well over one hundred companies countries
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that's right weapons somehow i think that when you sell sixty six billion dollars worth of weaponry into the world in a single year other nations might just have the same capability of delivering similar strikes now obama also took the time to address the concerns of a counter attack from syria which is sure to us can't happen. because saddam regime does not have the ability to seriously threaten our military and the other any other retaliation they might seek is in line with threats that we face every day. neither assad nor his allies have any interest in escalation that would lead to his demise and our ally israel can defend itself with overwhelming force thanks for making it crystal clear that syria doesn't pose a threat to the us or israel for that matter which can respond with unshakable force thanks to the billions of dollars in military aid u.s. taxpayer provide to the country every year ok let me get this straight we don't
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have to fear retaliation from assad because his military is so weak that there is no possible threat to the u.s. so remind me again why attack in syria is crucial to protect american security remember this is the same man who repeatedly said during the run up to the iraq war that even knows adama gas his own people he pose no danger to the us and back then obama also stressed that getting involved militarily in iraq would only worsen the situation and flame the arab world what brings me to obama's most outrageous statement and his entire speech. it's true that some of assad's opponents are extremists but al qaeda will only draw strength in a more chaotic syria if people there see the world doing nothing to prevent innocent civilians from being gassed to death. now we're worried about al qaeda dry and strength in syria this coming from an administration that has
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provided arms and ammunition to an opposition force partly made up of al-qaeda and according to senator mccain just last week obama promised to ramp up weapons shipments to syria in order to arm the rebels even faster so let's be clear you claim that bombing assad on behalf of al qaeda forces will bring stability to syria and ultimately weaken al-qaeda obama you can't have it both ways and it's not like we haven't seen this scenario play out before like when the us brilliantly financed the mujahedeen forces during the soviet war in afghanistan which has worked out so well for us but really this all comes down to the concept of american exceptionalism. what kind of world will we live in if the united states of america sees a dictator brazenly violate international law with poison gas and we choose to look on the other way probably. probably be exact same world we're living in today considering this government turns
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a blind eye to not only every other grave humanitarian crisis going on in the world but the millions of impoverished people in your own country that you govern as obama sums up proudly america is exceptional and that's what makes us different. no we aren't listen if we continue to advance this myth of exceptionalism that the u.s. is fundamentally different from other nations it's not just going to lead to more hatred more destabilisation and more or. we've all heard the rhetoric about the september eleventh terrorist attacks being the result of an enormous intelligence failure according to government the lack of knowledge about the impending attack made it impossible for us national security to act preemptively and decisively of course since then an entire industry has been
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created to bolster the already enormous security and surveillance state what if the attacks were not just an intelligence failure contrary to the fischel narrative sufficient intelligence and was available that should have prevented the attacks with an assertion that in my next guest has risked his reputation to prove his name is anthony shaffer and is retired army colonel who alleges that a multitude of information about the hijackers was available before nine eleven thank you so much for coming on i should have made could be out while the military oversaw a program called able danger what exactly is able danger and what is your goal and over seen and able danger was essentially in the special operations command program which was focused at eleven we're talking about nine hundred ninety nine two thousand and one targeting of al qaeda it is you will recall was attacking our embassies in east africa there was a trend now developing in the later decade and able danger simply put was an
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operational set a set of operations is designed to sensually identify target and then do things to destabilize al qaida is a growing threat and how much information are we talking about here while we're talking about. the n.s.a. issues all the tools we developed for able danger worth the things n.s.a. now uses we're talking about data mining at the time the data might exist and that was the whole idea since we had never sought to target a global organization that had no geographic boundaries data mining became the focus of that and we had terabytes of data on them and obviously one of the things as you indicated introduction the information was there just was never properly shared integrated with the larger picture of other agencies such as the f.b.i. so much as cia's. data so we could get a complete picture and you know what was your first thought as someone who had really seen all of this laid out who have been overseeing this program for a while what do you think when the attack happened we instantly as a group came together and understood exactly what happened we were worried about
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this sort of thing happening and part of the problem was this perception of the false perception that al-qaeda they would never attack us by the fact they fundraise here they view all these are the things that we know about we knew al qaeda was here and they always thought somehow good projection if you will of our values on them that they're not really a threat don't worry about it the minority this is of the majority opinion of people in d.o.d. at the time clearly and so we instantly knew that there was something that al qaeda would likely have done the attack the day of the attack and what happened when you brought this information to philip zelikow the head of an island commission well he was shocked i actually made a disclosure and this is a record of my book operation dark heart we had a session and i was undercover and bob graham afghanistan in two thousand and three october. ten years ago and we actually laid it out to him of what had happened and he felt that was important actually asked me to come back and testify to the nine eleven commission about the issues and next thing you know i'm socially shuffled out suspended for minor issues next thing you know i'm fired and it was and we
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turned out it all was about the fact that i disclose this information philip zelikow and by his staff's own admission it was a path they did not want to go down because they didn't want to have to basically admit to the fact that they had found mohamed atta and some of the nine eleven hijackers instead of base and obviously if we found them we could have done something to prevent the attack. and you know we used you said that the commission was a conference what do you think that they were covering up i mean just that ineptitude the commission i believe there was a conspiracy it's where i disagree with a lot of the nine eleven truth there was conspiracy is not about the government our government us government participating it's about covering your behind it's about the fact that there was massive failure of failure at a scale which continues to haunt us don't. forget that part of our mistakes right now ten years in the afghan war twelve years of the afghan wars because of this incompetence and it has to do with the fact that even though we had the information bureaucrats some of which are still in the system did what about trying to prevent
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it from being shared properly within the agencies of the government to take action so this is what the recovery but all about that's what i think was the real core issue of why they went after me and try to prevent this information becoming public did they really cared about their credibility those who make their pretty brazen arrogant about kind of leading the charge with all these new waters and well it is find it hard to believe that they would go through such extremes not at all it is this was all about protecting the bureaucracy and individuals in the bureaucracy one of the individuals who was actually involved in this was keith alexander he was actually the central command senior intelligence officer during the time we were running up to this so a lot of the folks had a lot to lose had they come forth or been identified as someone who did not act properly to share information and this is the key bureaucracies tend to protect themselves and spoke to don rumsfeld secretary of veteran from spelled in the green room of another network about this and i we talked about this he said well you know we feel we were lied to by the bureaucracy and he said that that was a common occurrence so you know as much as i have had to clear the air with him on
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some of the issues that regarding able danger because i disclosed this during his watch he said the bureaucracy commonly maad to him so let's remember that there's a bureaucracy that's separate from the political parties and i think that's what we have to always remember that there will always try to protect themselves and you say enough congressman curt weldon in two thousand and five that the pentagon pentagon employed in order to destroy yes supine five terabytes this data about able danger before nine eleven absolutely again to the idea of covering up wrongdoing in consistencies in process is something not new as a member n.s.a. this was recently caught again doing some things to say that they're protecting things but they're really not this is a pattern this is a pattern of bureaucracy no political party will ever control this completely but. each political party will be victimized by it by the fact that this was another branch of government does this third branch you know outside democrats republicans you've got this bureaucracy will always do things to protect itself and that's what we've seen i just find it fascinating that was before nine eleven destroying this
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evidence that really pointed to an attack and also just not that one p.t.b. but dozens of intel absolutely came out the new york times article last year let's talk of the perception that people have of al qaeda terror and they it almost seems like now it's used as kind of a generalized blanket term to label anyone who is really fighting against the u.s. military in some of these regions and war zones what is the true scope of al qaeda as they exist on the world today al qaeda today's significantly different than it was during the ninety nine two thousand and two thousand and one timeframe let me be very clear i think ninety five percent of the leadership who were in power in two thousand and one are now dead or in prison so the al qaeda today is not the al qaeda of two thousand and one it's franchised so as you point out i think it's almost a a label people will throw out there arbitrarily let's be very clear on this there are some al qaeda still in pakistan. al qaeda in the islamic magreb is america al qaeda and they were going to slow the really big cells of this they say they exist and are focused now is destabilizing countries and governments that are friendly to us they're more focused on that than they are coming after us not to say that they
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recover someday but clearly their focus is deeper than what it was twelve years ago and you know let's talk about your book operation dark heart it was this is so fascinating the pentagon i'm sorry talk about how forty six thousand dollars of taxpayer dollars was used to burn it and i just can't believe this i sound like i'm going to get from the i mean it's hard to believe and yeah basically i was in the army in the army reserve the time i sent the book manuscript to my chain of command saying i am doing a book why do i do to get this clear because i knew i was obligated to do their army once in the process gave it a clearance allowed me to propel the should next thing i know people in d.o.d. above army are saying we don't like this and they want about doing everything they could to basically draw attention to the fact that they felt there was quite. right information this is still the subject of a first member lawsuit now being fought out in federal courts right now we're in the final argument would like to believe with deity over this the new manuscript has been heavily redacted there's been a lot of victories with that said there's still key elements of the manuscript
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they're fighting over and it was all about the fact that i believe it's more about arrogance and trying to show me that they're in charge rather than trying to actually protect any real classified information you know or see the truth about really what was known not acted on you know let's talk about syria you've been attending a lot of syria hearings on the hill you know speaking of al-qaeda here we are fighting okayed in the rest of the world with the war on terror and at the same time not supplying associated forces right which i find interesting especially in the n.b.a. section ten twenty one where it says you can be detained indefinitely if you do that and we have our own government doing that what is this contradiction all about a country which is about that we don't have a plan we have no global strategy and right now we have this thing that's going on the people on the left seem to want to be involved and be helpful which is fine i think we should be helpful it's just that the idea of a new significant force as american troops for the issue it's not useful and i dispute what president obama said we're the only country that can do this sort of policing it's not true if the french want to do with us and
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a friendship i think that the bottom line is here we have to be very careful in how we solve this as much as i think assad's a bad man i think the worse the alternative of having fifteen bad men in charge of that region with al qaeda being one of them is probably not a better option i would think this room and empty we have about a minute left or thirty seconds left but you've mentioned a third rail that bureaucratic reigning right and what is that well so much of what goes on in the government is perfect as professional or career bureaucrats people who signed up iris is a good example of that where you have career bureaucrats who spend their entire lives inside the government often they worship mediocrity and they're their coin of the world is process everything becomes process and it's all about trying to be. not do anything bad or wrong but that's not doing the good either and so when something goes wrong why don't we blame for maintain the status quo status quo retired colonel anthony shaffer really appreciate your time traveling. thanks to all of you for at home for tuning in tonight make sure to join us again tomorrow.
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