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strictly peaceful means i hope that we will be able to live up to these expectations in the work we have started to do. if we resolve the matter of chemical weapons in syria this will be a big step forward in. creating in achieving a very important objective of turning the middle east into zone free for all. weapons of mass destructions. or russia and the united states together with the united nations were expected to call an international conference to last year. on fortunately there were some delays but we will insist on carrying twenty. we made a decision to have this conference in two thousand and twelve and we are now at the end of two mighty thirteen and we think it is unacceptable we think that all the
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parties that can influence the. participants in this conference should use their influence. to make sure that this important task which is very crucial for strengthening nonproliferation regime around the world thank you very much again for your patience and we are ready to take your questions. here in the washington post. yes good afternoon. mr la profit by could beg your indulgence to please give at least part of your answer in english could we get a couple of specifics please when is the first inspection is there a deadline for that and for further action i heard you say. secretary kerry that it would be as soon as safely possible but what's your idea of both of
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you of of when that might be and separately can you reconcile what i thought i heard you say secretary kerry about a chapter seven resolution with what minister lavrov said about taking this that this removes the threat of the use of force is the threat of the use of force within the security council still an option here and is u.s. military action separate from that still an option thank you very much. for coming here has your guard see your question addressed to me and i hope translators association of our very professional here and i will continue speaking with you in russian. and once again i would like to stress that you will get a chance to read through the papers and the whole interpretation is a record of the fierce. these documents i repeat not direct action documents these are just the proposals submitted by russia in the
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us they have to be reviewed first and foremost in the organisation for the prosecution of chemical weapons and after the o.p.c. w. council make their decision will be able to tell you specifically when the first inspection will take place and how long inspections will look how much time they will require in the documents you will see to do you will see some. dates timeline as suggested by our experts what our experts say would be suspicion. to ensure the secure process stablish in control and eliminating syrian chemical weapons and then you had a question for john kerry but before he answers your question i would ask you to read once again our agreement to be very carefully what we will use as our foundation and i work in a million security council we have agreed to support decisions made by the o.p.c.
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w. . like yours provide additional support even measures. so . quoting to the un security council competence and we have also agreed that we will expect full compliance of their requirements. suggested by the old w b d convention and these requirements are not met or if somebody uses chemical weapons the un security council will take steps according to chapter seven of the un charter of course this does not mean that every time a violation is reported to the un security council action will be taken automatically we will first have to very fight and review there really because we
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see a lot of fabrications and lies around the world we have to be very careful and it is only after we have full confidence that there was a violation we as the russian federation would be ready to make can another adopt another security council resolution with defining a response that would become measure it whizzed the violation and they should be no speculation on this point anymore. so let me. as sergey did comment on both sides of it if i may first of all. there are timelines in here and it's an ambitious goal and the inspectors must be on the ground no later than november and the goal is to complete the destruction and removal and or and or removal. by halfway through next year twenty fourteen
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that is a stated goal within this framework. in addition to that. there is there are acquirements in the framework which you will see that automatically take noncompliance and or. some question of deviation from the framework will go to the security council for debate as to what measure might be implemented but there is an agreement between russia and the united between russia and the united states that noncompliance is going to be held accountable within the security council under chapter seven what remedy is chosen is subject to the debate within the council which is always true but there's a commitment to impose measures that's the language well we'll impose measures commensurate with whatever is needed in terms of accountability we think that's an
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appropriate process and should and as sergey knows under. any circumstances there would be a debate in the security council even now. so there is no diminish in that there's no did munition of option and it's impossible obviously under these circumstances to have a pre-agreement as to what that specific sanction might or might not be for circumstances that we don't even know yet our hope is that we have a tight enough regimen that is agreed upon as we have said in the extraordinary measures that we have laid out we have actually agreed on a new process on a more vigorous process and a a a a more defined process for instance the unfettered access of of inspectors that is not in normal c.w.c.
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procedure but it will be embraced through a un resolution as part of the process that exists here so we have high anticipation that as i said if fully implemented this will have an ability to be both verifiable accountable and the world would make its judgments as we go along now with respect to the question of the use of force first of all the present united states under our constitution as commander in chief always retains the right to defend the united states of america and our interests and he always has that right even as he asked congress to approve he retained a declared and understandable time honored right with respect to his power as commander in chief but the president also said he wanted to find a diplomatic solution to this now they potential of
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a threat of force is clearly one of those options that may or may not be available through the security council and is subject to debate everybody knows the differences of opinion about it but depending on what assad does that. that possibility exists either within the process of the united nations or as it did here with a decision by the president under states and likeminded allies if they thought that was what it came to i think the president sending me here and directing made it work with. my counterpart sergey lavrov as president putin sent him here indicates that both presidents believe the preferred route which i think is the preferred route of most of the citizens of the world is to find a peaceful solution to these kinds of conflicts and that's what i think we have worked in good faith to try to do here today. and.
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i believe that my question is. to both of you have you reached an agreement regarding how much chemical weapons does syria have where will destruction take place some syrian territory in the or in the third country and who will pay for that. business with all of these questions are explained in the peepers which you will receive shortly will be on these papers includes our astronauts estimates by our experts but the final decision on the matter and basically all know the other matters will be taken by the old p.c. w. council this is. not these papers reflect the joint the vision regarding the timeline procedures and so on and so forth but like i said earlier we
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need to submit our proposal to deal p c w and then these suggestions will be finalized and formalized what it is that we have agreed. as you will see in the documents on a basic assessment of the numbers and types and locations we have agreed between us. and that's a very important point here because we expect the assad regime obviously in its declaration to show the candor that we have shown in reaching that agreement with respect to the issue of destruction. there is a clause in which we agree that we will contribute resources including finance to some degree we have a certain amount of the budget for this kind of purpose and we will seek in the process of the un and in the effort to have a global commitment to this help from many other of our international partners
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but we're convinced the urgency of this will be a test for the international community's commitment to the chemical weapons convention and to the importance of restraining chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction so i think the global community will participate in this can be achievable as to where it is destructed the experts really need to make determinations about individual weapons some can be destroyed on the site many cannot and that's something that will have to be part of the c.w.c. . process that will be contained in the extraordinary procedures that we've called for the issue of this it with let's us then who was to pay for it you could probably heard that some countries who are willing to pay war i'm positive that there will be countries like maybe some other countries who will be willing to pay
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for a peaceful solution to this problem. then david there are enough lumber at work that we're going to censor it talk to them and make that arrangement. yes. take a look at the little bit of searches five days ago london when you first floated this idea publicly you seem to dismiss it at the time and icing assad would never do it and quote it can't be done obviously my question sir is how did the impossible suddenly become possible and why is it credible to think that you can send these inspectors in on the ground in the middle of a civil war tour and as a practical matter if you really want to get thorough verifying inspections in all corners of the country don't you have to stop the fighting first. let me answer both questions i purposely made the statements that i made in london and i did
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indeed say it was possible and they won't do it. even as i hoped it would be possible and wanted him to do it and the language of diplomacy sometimes requires that you put things to the test and we did. sergey and i had been talking even three days before that about this very concept we had two phone calls on the thursday and friday before it and i got a phone call very quickly from sergey saying let's see if we can take this and move and he talked as president they talked to the president's talked in the in st petersburg and the rest is history we're here so obviously. i would hope and always hope that we could have removed those weapons and we wanted to but we didn't know whether or not this could be given the kind of life it has been given in the last forty eight hours so it just didn't make sense to raise the concept that
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hadn't yet been put to the test or agreed upon or worked through i'm pleased that president putin. took initiative and. i sergey took initiative and president obama responded and we're here and so the question is so where do we go from here and how do we build on this. which i think is really critical now how do you do this in a time where well look this is logical one of the reasons. that we believe this is achievable is because the i said regime has taken extraordinary pains in order to keep control of these weapons and they have moved them and we know they've moved them we've seen them move them we watched us and so we know they've continued to always move them to
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a place of more control therefore since these weapons are in areas under regime control predominantly sergey raises questions of maybe the opposition has some here or there and absolutely fair is fair both sides have to be responsible if they do that also and that may present a larger challenge but those of us who have been supporting the opposition have a responsibility to help create access there and the regime has responsibility where we believe the larger is no the measure of fact we believe the only weapons are. ought to be accessible because the assad regime controls the access so in point of fact it shouldn't be in a contested area largely because they've been working to keep it out of a contested area and that is the you know sort of silver lining if you will in the way in which they have contained these weapons so it's our expectation that
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with the cooperation of the international community with adequate contribution of protection forces people to go on the ground if the i should regime is prepared to live up to its word we should not have a problem achieving access to their sites and that will quickly be put to the test sneaking up on us to the canals is the mix and that'll. is the most final question from business on each channel my question is from this to allow growth could you please comment below snipe we saw a coffee on in the a four year old the hotel the a respected politician would in the news that he has brought here he mentioned that he came to see you personally. this is. where four years ago russia and united states ever sit about and so author of that conversation with the lover of do think our country. might
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reset our relations again. well the go ahead you know. i think. as i said in my opening comments we've had some differences here and there on certain issues but we've also worked together cooperatively on many things and sergey lavrov and i have never stopped talking. we have consistently been prepared to try to work to deal with issues. and that's why we did geneva one and that's why we're here now with respect to this initiative now on larger issues on iran russia and the united states cooperate on north korea russia and the united states cooperate on w t o we cooperate on start treaty we cooperate on the reduction of nuclear weapons we've been cooperating we just had
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a two plus two meeting which means the two secretaries of state and defense meeting their counterparts from russia in washington even in the midst of all the other hurlyburly about issues and we had a very constructive meeting in which we laid out an agenda to continue to work on weapons of mass destruction to continue to work on trade to continue to work on other issues even the issues that in the press get elevated into this question of reset no reset etc so i think i hope sergey feels the way i do there are things we disagree on but big nations powerful nations leaders cannot afford to get caught up in the small things and i and president putin to his credit despite real disagreement with our policy despite a disagreement with where we were heading reached out and tried to continue the
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dialogue so i would say look for the glass being you know half full rather than half empty and let's see how we proceed from here ok. well you just said the second for me to answer the last question i think this is. national. anthem and. the meeting with kofi annan i think john met it with even a swell coffee. was not then figure he doesn't have fists per se but he's their respective politician he's a member of the so-called wise men he participates in the foundation set up by dead turner and recently lost his wife is a dead moscow as part of this foundation's activities and we had a meeting with him of course since he is dead as
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a special. representative for syria and with mr brahimi got this position. which political animal speak and he carries a very a much. wars around the world he wants peace and stability and he's met is. concerned him very much and when he had a meeting with me here to me about our vision and progress in our talks with john this was late night it was clear that we were very clear to reaching an agreement which we. announced today a little later we put on paper in new york in the hague i told him that we are very much concerned by attempts to undermine any efforts. taken to calm
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down the situation. and remove certain problems related to the syrian crisis including those efforts that john and i. taking you today and i told him that at the most critical point in our negotiations so we suddenly saw on t.v. screens every port on saying that ki-moon the u.n. secretary general told some women in some women's club that. they report by experts who looked at the august twenty first incident will be presented to monday and he cannot reveal the contents of this report but that the report will announce that chemical weapons had been used then it was followed by footage. saying with documents saying that bussard austin has committed a lot of crimes against humanity in later it turned out that actually these two
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sentences as he bought the report saying that chemical weapons had been used and the other portion regarding the crimes against humanity were totally unrelated and what he was referring is a report. published in geneva by an independent commission of experts who mention some crimes against humanity. but someone well respected t.v. networks aired these two portions in sequence which show that chemicals weapons had been used and busted us and has repeatedly committed crimes against humanity so unless this is just a call incidence or a trick and with somebody having gained access to t.v. networks i think this is and then tended attempt to disrupt my meeting with john kerry fortunately it failed. in any case just. one
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chemical weapons are used or somebody claims that chemical weapons had been used to we need to reviews these allegations thoroughly so all those who say the. it was thierry shimon who used chemical weapons on august twenty first they have to wait for the report first. and then conclusions drawn in this report will be used together with old the other indications that in surrey guarding who may have. done what happened on august twenty first. we pay so much attention to strengthening the u.n. security council so let's respect the security council let's not anticipated let's not get ahead of ourselves let's wait for the security council to announce its conclusions and the report in all the other considerations here regarding august twenty first and what preceded it. by the way i also mentioned to coffee on
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and it is necessary for the group of experts once they present this part of their report they should go back in investigate all other incidents that has been authorized to investigate of which i am also very concerned and i also mentioned this to coffee and i'm very concerned that we have reasons to suspect that the report to be presented on the monday he's currently being edited. to make it biased or. compared to what the experts initially arose in it. we're pleased. the decision has been made that he had of this commission and will be present in person at the meeting and members of the u.n. security council will be able to ask him in person if they have any questions i'm sorry for taking too much time to tell you about this but coffee and did have
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a lot of questions in a shared some information with him i shared some of our concerns with him now as regards your question to john kerry i would like to support what he said. like i said in my introduction such agreement says the one we have reached today on a very difficult issue even though this agreement has not yet been formalized it has not yet been approved still this school or russia u.s. initiative i can tell you frankly when we work together. as a rule we are able to mobilize support from most members of the international community in this demonstrates that it is very important for us to rise above certain matters that some try to overemphasise in our
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relationship and they use them as obstacles for. developing this relationship some fences maybe as some artificial xyzzy as i can tell you you know presidents both at their meeting in los cabos list year ago and. there are meeting on the march and so father international events. the presidents consistently stressed the need to develop bilateral cooperation in our a cop aeration on the international arena yes like john said we have our differences and we don't see eye. but if we share this same approach we want to see syria peaceful country were all really just send their new groups will feel safe and their rights will be guaranteed we have some disagreements regarding methods even though on the matter of chemical weapons we were able to come up with a common approach and this is what we should do on the all the other matters by the
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way on monday afternoon general conference so if the i.a.e.a. will open in vienna and very important the russian and u.s. agreement will be signed there on peaceful nuclear energy this is a very important document a very practical document we have prepared several other agreements. coppery shin in fighting drugs we have set up a hotline between our the security council on cyber crime information security. for president obama's visit we have prepared some statements on economic cooperation. on the general long term. plans for developing russia u.s. relations in even though this visit did not take place i think all the work that
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went into preparing these papers will not be in vain and whenever we have a chance whenever we have an opportunity and the russian and u.s. presidents come together we can sign all those agreements so i think that's a very good senator. but i don't have any more we should just were finished. ok. you. are having fun. so no military solution but a diplomatic one inspections and further destructions of syrian chemical weapons stockpiles foreign minister sergey lavrov and secretary of state john kerry has praised the corporation as they've had
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a very fruitful day of talks on the syrian crisis in geneva and they have agreed to bring syrian chemical weapons stockpile under international control and called food joint effort of international institutions including the yuan to cooperate with the syrian government and they also invited the syrian opposition to join in so all sides can be involved in astonishing peace in the country even though a military strike is also on the cards according to the diplomats but it can't be given a go ahead only under the security council resolution and it's been decided the syrians or allow inspectors in to check of the chemical weapons stockpile in the country with further plans to destroy it and they've also called for transparency and for providing security for the inspectors that they both top ranking diplomats all the parties involved to work as one team and of course will continue to bring you up to speed on all the developments in and around see where it's civil war and the peace efforts that are being implemented to bring the country back to normality
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