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i know my mind i mean that i. am. it's people that. were cleaning up this fights. plus. the president did not keep his promise. two years later one ton and now is still operating. could shutting the door on that detention center really and the trauma of one timeout. and can the closing of
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a prison really liberate those it once held captive. it's not that i feel lonely if i am lonely for him and who could possibly understand what i have experienced in guantanamo when i talk about it is most. no one is able to imagine it. and the flag flew over camp delta and guantanamo bay cuba where you know the detainees are housed. to honor all those service members and civilian who have lost
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their lives during the war on terrorism and those who continue to fan the ideals of freedom and democracy throughout the world so i really appreciate that because i very much enjoyed serving my country. it's painful and it makes me sad that there are those who think my service is not honorable. if anyone googles my name torture will come out because my name was put in books of all types which of course have in its title torture the torture team the road torture the trail. tortured and all these kinds of things people think i must be the torture lady. i mean nine eleven a lot of people were killed that day and i want to make sure somebody was held
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accountable. how dare anyone on this planet. do that. within our borders am united states prosecutor points an accusatory finger at your chest and calls you a criminal and tells you that you have betrayed your oath and you have betrayed your country that your d.s. to disclose a list of names if i want i know better. and he has paid a terrible price. there's a lot of reasons for believing. there is no easy answer. downtown what has caused a lot of arctic for a lot of the. world
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war when a plane strikes the pentagon it tries to kill people in the pentagon. it's very personal. and it sounds corny to say it was my duty but i felt like i could retire without at least offering to deploy. and i volunteered to go anywhere. it's very scary that there is these people out here that just want to destroy our way of life our culture our values then and now i understand why
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i mean how do you when hearts and minds how do you stop this if you don't understand your enemy. in autumn two thousand and one young turkish boy who grew up in germany decided to travel to pakistan to explore his muslim religious. work on the year two thousand and one changed my life. and i traveled to pakistan because i wanted to learn a lot of what islam is in a short time with. some pakistan had always interested me. i was so also curious to see another country. and i realized the war had broken out in afghanistan. rates continue to read the
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taliban trenches north of the pakistani government i didn't really think much of it myself but i was just nineteen back then caught my eye. and didn't know much about the worlds. i wasn't particularly interested in politics either. for the record it was just before my return trip to germany i had bought a lot of presents to take home. it was just before christmas. police stopped the bus came up to me and to ask questions. i presented my passport and they told me to get off the bus. that was my last time as a free man pakistani police handover of the americans taken to kandahar air base for interrogation. and they wanted to turn me into
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a terrorist they wanted me to admit that i was a member of al qaeda and the taliban and that i fought with them who at that time i didn't even know what al qaeda is i said i'm not a terrorist and that is why i will not sign that and then they hung me from the ceiling by my handcuffs. they put a chain around them and pulled me up so that i was completely. composed of who i was hanging with my full body weight off the ground into a new month another man was hanging their skin all over his body had term blow that . he was dead and they left him hanging there. the interrogator asked me again to sign. when i said no he just gave a hand signal. and they pulled me up again. i
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hung like that for five days. almost every day and night i felt how he was being treated on that first is how i always say mediately knew if he was being punished you know when he was doing fine soft even good to eat these are have a moderate economy and he says you know. that i thought a lake right for three days. i said i can go on like this but here's the point you may need. communism getting me anywhere i have to do something on the cell i went to the police. his mother told us that when i read her not us had
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turned towards old radical islam. this creates an expire first of all wonderful needed to determine whether or not it's actually intended to fight the american answer. there was a great commotion within all the security agencies tomorrow it's become sort of especially after we learned that a group of suicide bombers in hamburg the hamburg cell had masterminded the nine eleven attacks a total. harm done so we put out all our feelers. we got the intelligence that were to occur not us always wanted to fight and had bought a combat suit and army boots that incriminating testimony that mainly came from his mother which. as he was said to have condoned the terrorist attacks on the united states. was a. kind of man's. the
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names. everyone. first. we have. i kept seeing groups of people being taken away. in zero nine and they were never seen again. before they blindfolded me they said they were taking me to my execution. in february two thousand and two diane beaver arise that guantanamo to work as
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a legal advisor to the camps commanders. very strange play mostly detainees would show up wherever they came from there maybe these people you know whether their bodyguards of osama bin ladin are whatever their role is maybe there are pieces of information there are going to make a difference. and i sat in on hundreds and who knows maybe a thousand interrogations i don't know i saw so many it's a mind game it's trying to elicit information. of variety of different ways and playing on a person's ego playing on a person's love of family love of country. not to me when i arrived there i had no idea why i was it was very hot. they finally uncovered my eyes. took me to
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a small cage. looking like a dog cage only smaller yvonne and there were no toilets nothing. the lights were on twenty four seven and it wasn't you know up on the generators roared so loudly. so this and i could never really sleep. as far it was more like fainting from exhaustion. only one month on the for me the thoughts. in my nurse and during my first interrogation stay asked me about mohamed atta. the state who does the guy who flew one of the planes into the towers. minds and they said that sure friend from hamburg was on walk. you live close to hamburg buy food from homeworks all. up so you probably went to the same fitness center and.
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wind in and around for a few when they didn't like my answer so they put me in solitary confinement. the island is so small for me it's the center see the center of the universe. on a tiny island the size of a football field in the middle of a lake stanza ruined monastery forty years ago two lovers decided to spend their honeymoon here. they have no idea but the island would change their lives forever
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but they would change the fate of the island. police never seen anything like this before you begin to come in the house. is in the borders of ice is grown in just one hour and it's only the beginning. they all told me my language is what i will only react to situations i have read the reports like the pollution and no i will leave them to the state department to comment on your latter point to. secure a cause are you talking no god. no more weasel words. when you made a direct question be prepared for a change when you find you should be ready for a battle freedom of speech and a little down to freedom to question. mission
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free accreditation free comes for charges free. range and free. free stude to a free. download free broadcast quality video for your media projects for free media or guard r.t. dot com you can. do two things that work is separation from your bodies and lack of sleep. and so the detainees then becomes to rely on the interrogator and hopefully then at some point the detainee will become so compliant that detainees will tell you the things that you're asking about and you'll get the intelligence information that you need. i'm going to say i spent an entire year on my own.
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when you're alone for so long that i'm more. if you as a you realize how many things you could have done better in life if one when you regret not having done them. more comes if you remember almost every person you treated badly. burned every heart you broke. as a child i wanted to be rich so i could drive fast cars. because of i enjoy drinking a lot sometimes it made me violent converted. i also took drugs. that's how i once lived.
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in my search for answers i turned to the koran and decided to live a religious life as. i know at least one of his interrogations and i may have seen more he wasn't an innocent guy you know i'm sorry you know the cover story of i just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time but i'm really this religious guy just doesn't cut it. it was a very intense time many people felt certain there would be another attack against america and so that's why the intensity of trying to work as hard as you could to do your part to save american lives. participate in this contribute. and knew if i didn't.
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was a good chance that i could be sent to afghanistan. it was a better chance of me. to my family. and be a third reason would be it's a career enhancing it looks good for the record that you participated in this global war on terror and you got the medals to go with their ribbons to go with it and it helps you get promoted to the next big rate. and i felt i had a role to play in that we complied with the rule of law the law of war he asked me questions like if i had seen a summer bin laden. told them of course i've seen them on t.v. like everyone else. that made them. we definitely have people who know things they aren't talking they're resisting
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every effort we've tried the normal methods so now we need something else. in afghanistan they were doing many more severe things handcuffing someone above their head for hours and hours. any time you restrained somebody for long periods of time particularly over their head or your organs collapsed on each other and you eventually died because of that. and so the interrogators to get mo as well as myself are thinking oh my gosh. you know you can't you can't anyway it's a it's unprofessional to do something like that. washington demanded better results from military interrogations but interrogators that one time obey felt that they were given no proper guidelines as to what was permitted to achieve those results dianne beaver was put in charge of drafting a memo on enhanced interrogation techniques. everyone understood the torture wasn't
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allowed and obvious forms of torture such as cutting a cutting off a finger or a letter to any of those obvious things that you know you couldn't do death threats and things like that and so what was allowed. for example if someone said oh we have a pistol we know it's not loaded and we'll point it at somebody said no that would be illegal. what if we built a special chair. and put the detainees in your thinking special chair what does that mean. what about stress positions what about making them bend in an awkward position and they can't get up until. i see. there can be a gray area. when you're being asked for legal advice i did my best to look at the
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sources of the law that might apply. i certainly wasn't an expert. i had called around asking for help and no one would help me and so right away you don't have to be too clever to know no one wants to touch it. and. we've research it now we have to put pen to paper and so my legal staff and i were it was very little sleep over those four days but we started putting the memo together and rewriting and looking at it in legal references and having alternately we're happy with what we came up with in october two thousand and two diane bieber concludes in a classified memo that the proposed interrogation methods comply with u.s. and international law ten days later secretary of defense rumsfeld authorizes
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eighteen of the twenty two techniques including stress positions removal of clothing and the use of detainee phobias like fear of dogs rumsfeld does not authorize some of the harshest methods that included death threats and waterboarding. ok well now we have the decisive piece of paper let's go we need to you know start up interrogations again now that we have guidance and policy guidance from the very top of the department of defense. as interrogations in guantanamo were said to be conducted according to government approved guidelines the situation in iraq deteriorated and in two thousand and four images of torture and abuse in abu ghraib leaked to the public. and believable what purpose did that serve it wasn't
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eliciting information. i mean you know this is sadistic in this is not the product of a professional anything the usually jovial jodee rumsfeld was grim as he was sworn in and promptly took responsibility for what he called a catastrophe he was interrupted by hecklers calling for his head. this terrible to because the army is will and has been tarnished and will be tarnished for a very long time is difficult to recover from something like this. the political upheaval didn't affect the every day life. over the course of his five year in prison meant the means of eliciting information steadily increased in intensity. for them sometimes they interrogated me for more than twenty four hours. thirty.
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years there were. then the americans and asked me what i had done in germany. or something. else for you and then quiet about phone numbers and other information the stuff that only people in germany could know about so i was convinced of the americans had been in touch with the german police who isn't. in june two thousand and four even retires from active military duty i knew it was time to get out because i did conflict as much as i could and i wanted to have have a dog i wanted to you know have my own house and those kinds of things where i didn't have to worry about would i be deployed what do i do. in the summer of that
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same year matt diaz was deployed for a six month tour of duty in guantanamo. because of the embarrassment at abu ghraib there was more focus on. the my mission while i was down there became to make sure that another abu ghraib didn't happen. my job was to star trek relegation the abuse going back to the beginning of the camp. no matter how they characterize the conflict. we're to treat detainees or those we detain. humane. what i observed that we were still not complying with the law of war. the name diane beaver came up because she wrote the original memo to request these enhanced interrogation to each one of the interrogators was concerned about the
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techniques that were authorized and so to the center for reference. people that were there clearly were not the worst the worst and not everybody should have been there clearly they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time . and sold to the us turned over to the u.s. . and iraq was one of them. you know my job is to. comport with the law make sure my commanders and my chain of command complies with the law so on that professional level of course i got to care because that's my job but on a personal level i mean i'm a human being i don't i don't get joy out of seeing other human being suffer. the more i looked into it the more i realized that it doesn't matter what you advise your commanders those concerns are going to leave the island is not going to go up the chain. so my role to advise commanders on the proper way forward
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basically futile it's not going to get anywhere. that's was the moment that i decided ok that was something i had to do. there's just no way and to be able to do it through proper channels was my thought process and to do it surreptitiously. they kept interrogating me like this for years and years so i told them i'm through with you if you want to hear it again just rewind the tapes you already have and listen to it again and nothing's changed. with. the food they punished me they barely fan me. they didn't give me water. they tried everything but i didn't say anything anymore.
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