tv Sophie Co RT September 30, 2013 10:29am-10:57am EDT
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and to the contrary i think there is a great deed of. positions among the lebanese that they want to live together they want to really carry on the dialogue there are lots of issues that need to be sorted out but this does not mean that they will resort to violence and trying to the to the on the other hand for sure i mean to have that number it would constitute problems on the security on the security that they are saying international community has really fulfill its promises in helping us with the refugees and that un has offered lebanon to set up refugee camps that lebanon has rejected i mean all these refugees are in free flow right now it can't be too good and it will i do think when i think you're a chance in hell for a mistake that was committed. to the present government and we have already. advised i mean we are we are part of the of of the of the opposition now for the
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time being and we have expressed our opinion so many times and we proposed to the lebanese government that they should help in the setting up of number of. camps for that if you do for the syrians who use near the lebanese syrian lebanese border it helps lebanon in presenting its problem to the world by showing. what it is undergoing the downs of a burden that such an one but also what you can say refuse it in a first time is the first place actually there are two reasons one is that the that it is going on at that time. during these past three years was very much influenced by. the syrian government and this it invasion in this respect this illusion. has been adopting
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a policy of denial of what's happening there we're denying that there is a problem going on in syria just until recently it is start to recognize this on the other hand it is certain let's say fear among certain components of the lebanese. that was made constitute later on something similar to the person or if you g.'s and the which there were set up camps so in fact. i don't think this is this is true but this is that this was their opinion that readers are not allowing the lebanese government to set up these palestinian camps for these syrian refugees when economic implications i mean you know when it cost two million dollars trueman seven hundred has been report was published recently by the world bank about the economic consequences of such
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a massive. number of. these ballots and then that. which is in excess of seven point five billion dollars. so this is something that lebanon cannot really take the syrian civil war for many is really part of a larger conflict between sunni and shia muslims with saudi arabia and iran behind the scenes pulling the strings but i think well i think i think this is a mystery in this moment and a misrepresentation of the facts. let's go back to what really happened in march. and to into a low to the over two and a half years ago. it was way of. let's say the people of that odd that time who took the streets in multiple express.
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the feeling. of dignity and freedom actually. has resorted to its classical tools in trying to separate among the various components of the society throughout the past let's say number of the kids you can never distinguish and differentiate between the various components of the syrian society and you don't know who is doing the christian and who is the muslim who is diallo it and who is the so knight and so on that was the situation in syria the regime has resorted to these tools in order to create is addition within the country limits or no one doubts that the conflict started as a local thing that is that's a fact but i'm talking now we have as the line the iranians who are supplying arms
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to the assad regime and we have qatar and saudi who are arming the rebels in winter so that's a fact i'm saying right now the way things are looking at this point it seems like it's just a part of a larger conflict between iran and saudi arabia. for sure the conflict going on. between. them but over the years and that each each but you see now we have to know how it three developed what was the mistake and particularly there was a mistake and i believe and i have communicated this several times to the russian leadership because they are the ones who had. let's say. and we always remember for the russians who supported the people throughout the past decades in the dealing with the arab world really supported the
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people at the same time they are the ones who had the possibility to go in between let's say the opposition and the and the uprising on the one hand and the regime on the other instead of taking the initiative and trying to find a solution to a problem that is growing and that really they were quite aware of what can we do in terms of lead to the result to particularly in trying to assemble and to free some of the terrorists and the extremists that were present in syria and elsewhere and there were used by the syrian regime at one time to assemble them and to send them to iraq and they send them to us and lebanon the russians they have already seen what the regime can do they kept on silent and they
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supported the decision and the regime went along in a way to carry on this process of creating this edition now where do we go from here where do we go from here something has to be done in order to bring together i fully agree that something has to be the end of let's say arranging for the geneva two conference to get together into the end to that conference not on the on the on the let's say on the proper. work plan so that. ultimately this will lead towards the let's say the that will not be there and such and such a formula because it is not possible for somebody who is a. all of the country that has suffered throughout the boss to a few is over the hundred and twenty thousand casualties and the destruction.
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and the creation of this addition to combat as as it continued president such a go after the break we'll see if there is any truth to play instead russia supports president side door is it the syrian people and who it is has that turning against him that cannot stay with us. be loose and search for justice should individuals including government officials be legally held to account for starting aggressive force like in iraq is it fair to push their officials be given immunity from prosecution if they are not held accountable and who is ultimately responsible. choose your language.
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be killed with oh if you're going to kill some of. the consensus. choose the opinions that immigrate to. choose the stories that impact your. choose the access to. this point being an expensive car saloon. like. new fashion show. also designer bags and shoes in the best shop windows. luxury is a school. is a lost cause. constantly
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a problem you're really seeing gresham is supporting i saw then once i sub to stay in power hit they're not supporting the regime from what i know and they just don't want the rebels to come in power because that would have repercussions for russia's north caucuses reassure me that you and this is a certain point that's very important. we understand the what you call that the concerns over russia and let's say the extremists but we have exactly the same concern. what he expects from a show. called the moderates it's just support moderation in syria in the the in. what is really syria after what is is going to be the we're calling to friends between the moderates and the rebels because it's so mixed up right now largely the rebels are really made up of jihadists right now no that's not true. you see what is the.
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fact that the regime is trying to say is that. eighty percent of the syrians are. extremist that's not true now they're saying the outsiders are rebels now fighting against the syrian he's minority they are in the hundreds they are not more than one hundred. syrians odd in that is that the biased people there are not really extremists they are not everybody so and you two of how one of the terrorists was just ripping out a hired syrian person and eating it and actually told this to all. of the other day i said when i met with two months ago i said i understand president putin has mentioned this this thing. about the man who took the heart of somebody and ate it. i don't know who is he might be planted or he
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might be correct that he has a certain revenge or he is a criminal. but he did not see the man who took the throat of event film a single in syria. took took a stroll and he did not see as well that there are more than one hundred and twenty thousand people who were killed so that one day took his heart is something very common and the one hundred and twenty thousand people that there is not something criminal it is high time to put an end to this tragedy that's going place this is a genocide what's happening in syria it has to be stopped and stopped now and there is and there is a duty on behalf of the russians this election kerry acquired what do you think of that. i believe that they put an end to the problem in syria
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which was really. done by the sudanese she resorted to create some sort of. balance. equivalence with israel because israel has a nuclear bomb so this ad lehman that was made is fine but is that all. over now i mean the whole thing is that we finally we we're going to get to get let's say free from from becoming weapons what about the continued genocide that's taking place in syria you know tell me what is out of a possible american strike on syria that could still be an option if this agreement never does more about let me tell you. i'm i'm i said personally i don't believe in the use of weapons and in the use of. the
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problem is that. whenever you. ask the u.s. to use. to i mean you are now the west to use up and is that is not going to finish the job it's going to end up in in the having half of the job done and this by itself is going to make. say victor and is going to capitalize on it and this will make this with elongate the problem while effectively effectively creating the necessity conditions by making some sort of equivalence between the opposition and the and the and that is that will lead i was going to true to the geneva and to agree with the russians that enough is enough to lead towards some sort of way.
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meeting does the putting an end to the regime and in which is real democracy can really be built over there what is needed in being said from now on is that we are afraid to have the fundamentalists to take over in syria i tell you if we are going to leave things as they are the chances of furthering the radicalization is going to increase while on the other hand supporting the forces of moderation supporting let's say within that region. in order to help syria to reconstruct itself and to rebuild itself and while at the same time creating a reconciliation along the model that i have just mentioned to you is the best solution for syria otherwise it is
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a recipe for continued conflict and can. denude contin the bloodshed and continued let's say let the asian of forces of violence from syria into into the region what has happened in syria is something that does not does not threaten the situation of syria to continue are such it may really lead in so many other countries and creating is if eating of of. helplessness and under police pnas in the region and feeding of beef. defeatists feeding in the in the region that is going to be a good of either situation if i may i just have a couple more question about within lebanon situation do you see the group of fact i-slam as your natural allies are and you see it as a threat to lebanon. for the history. of his
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teens who were sent. into or seven and it took all. but astin and camp in lebanon in the north and they fought the lebanese army and at that time was a prime minister and which was. really putting an end to to this to this. let's say attack that was made that led ultimately it's the destruction of the camp but it was much better than even this let's say. that that spread all over in the end eleven we. live unease. and and effectively. we muslims eleven. and the some months they were they want. to live together were counted. in the country
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with all the little all the rest of the little lives we are against against the use of of religion in order to really try to defend certain principles or certain ideas and we are against the use of violence in this respect was is in fact in the name of in the name of islam when the engine these people commit crimes and this is against the let's say the teachings of islam you know the free syrian army is activities on lebanese soil implicate abductions and rocket attacks even though they were directed to has mullah but he was on lebanese soil do you think there should be a crackdown on free syrian army in lebanon or they should be tolerated. well i
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don't think there are three c. in amin here but any back that is directed from syria who does it whether it is the free syrian army. or anybody we are against it and we have expressed this opinion quite clearly in all the communique that was made by the group of of parliamentarians is that we denounce every attack that is only origin that originates from syrian territories into lebanon or any attack that is made in lebanon by any group that is said that acted towards eleven is group the syrian regime has issued a warrant arrest warrant for some of your top officials your party's officials including zardari saying that you guys are financing the opposition do you deny those charges our position vis a vis the the. the the opposition in syria because this this thing
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has nothing to do what you call it i mean this once that was issued has nothing to do with the with. the seed an uprising it was much longer before that to see what has nothing to do i mean this ones that were made against thirty thirty people. december twelfth two thousand and twelve was made before and that was new that time but what i really want to say is that. the. syrian regime has been resorting to such types of of fords in order to destabilize lebanon and that's that's the opposition is a v the this is the uprising. is that we have mentioned clearly is that
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politically we sympathize with the syrian uprising but are you financing from a humanitarian point of view we are helping in the receiving of the few g.'s but we do not try nance we do not smuggle weapons or send. we do not do any of these things. this is something we disagree with and we do not really approve of anything of the sort and we cannot offload it i mean it's pretty obvious that any officials of your party are out of reach for the syrian law enforcement right now but aren't you afraid that they may become targets for hezbollah. well we have been already for quite some time. our group has been. my. certain terrorists. this is something i don't want to leave
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accuse anybody because this is this is the subject matter of the international tribunals to. deal with this matter. for sure for sure this is this is this is this that is that. but in this respect you wanted it once and you have to live in dignity and this is something that we are freedom seekers and we believe that what's happening in syria is something unacceptable from from all aspects and what is happening in lebanon by the continue would say. back against the state as such and the holding of weapons by a group of lebanese and that was initially was really
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used to. to drive these rate is out of lebanon and thanks for the work that they have done in this regard i mean as well was influential and in doing so the problem is that hezbollah has directed its weapons against the chests of the innocent lebanese. and you are using this as your way to demand. original. let's say. and. this is something unacceptable and we will continue to stand against such such plans from the day through the democratic process that. has been. bought by our constitution. and that's it for this edition hearing from what senor at lebanon's former prime minister who i met in
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