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led. mr nor lives with his wife and child in a five metre squared room in one of the most populated and poor neighborhoods in mumbai home to twenty million people and india's commercial and industrial. but. sixteen years ago he moved here from the countryside seeking

a better life. mr noor had the misfortune of facing two serious illnesses up same time diabetes and leukemia. i have diabetes which used to constantly increase my doctor was worried and gave me injections but told me to do the c.b.c. examination which i did and learned that i have cancer. i fear for my family if i die i am the only one that works that is what worries me most everything else is in god's hands. he was diagnosed in two thousand and ten since then mr noor follows a specific treatment of vital importance to his survival. every day at noon he has to take a four hundred milligram pill which ensures a better quality of life for him. with this medicine i feel good. for

my body ached and when i got up i got dizzy. and now i feel good when i used to walk i got short of breath now i don't have that problem. the drug to which mr neuros has improving health goes under the generic name. it is a copy of glivec originally introduced in the treatment of chronic myeloid leukemia which greatly increased a patient's life expectancy. is

a breakthrough medicine for treatment. but to clearly chronic myeloid leukemia. is just. as a magic bullet because it has changed that we. will be for the future. on this. really. really. more than ten years no. magic bullet which changed the life of thousands of cancer patients around the world contains a substance called. in order to develop the substance decades of research and public institutions when needed. the researchers discovered

a common element in all patients namely a shift in the genetic material of their d.n.a. . two different genes from two different chromosomes were coalescing by mistake. producing an enzyme that causes an uncontrollable increase in white blood cell count up to twenty five times higher than normal but. having found the cause the researchers invented a weapon. they created. which aims directly at the targets and inhibits this enzymes action. that he used to. thank you. but you had a drug. that actually did. problems so they decide which

was basically done by public apps and public money the problem really was taking the drug from the lab to the market and that's what. i. imagine it is the life saving substance for patients with my lord leukemia that is contained in glivec the drug. the exact same active substance can also be found in its copies in generic drugs like the knot which is produced by moscow one of india's largest pharmaceutical companies. product is equivalent to the want to. go through a system of trial and regulatory scrutiny which i luvs us to get peons and

this product so indistinguishable and they're the same and the patient who takes our product but who takes know what this product we had at the same to me could benefit. both the original and the copy of the drug are equally effective. but they are also divided by a great difference that price believe a product is sold in india but hundred twenty thousand rupees which is about four hundred dollars per month at a p. and d. in ninja school. they have a veto price of two hundred dollars but would discount we give it to patient on hundred fifty dollars two hundred sixty games.

the great price difference between the two drugs is a matter of life and death for india's poor since about thirty percent of the population lives below the poverty line surviving on less than two dollars a day. i work in a shop where i polish gold. my wife works at home sewing clothes and earning one thousand to two thousand rupees per month my wage was raised reaching now six thousand rupees about one hundred ten dollars a month i got a raise because i am ill and so we try to manage. with this family income barely reaching one hundred fifty dollars mr nor is unable to buy even the cop even for two hundred dollars. glivec itself costs two thousand four

hundred dollars. i gathered money i also had something and sold my jewelry and my daughter. as well. i gathered five thousand trapeze from the money for the greengrocer. with the twenty rupees he gives me for food i don't eat and keep them as well. i can't do anything i'll leave it in god's hands it's whatever god wants i can't do anything. if the generic did not did not exist mr mannus would not have survived. he sells incense sticks

for the temples and his wife packs jewelry. the family income does not exceed seven thousand rupees or about one hundred forty dollars a month. if they had to buy the original glivec it would cost them one of the house their annual salary. to get one hundred twenty five thousand rupees is a huge amount of look at me and like me there are many who can't pay it can't buy it i believe that the drugs that do good should not stop being made.

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when the state grants a patient or gives a patent certificate to a company for its product it guarantees the company's monopoly for certain period of time which is usually twenty years. in this way it is believed that the company gets compensated for the innovation that contributed. however the indian state has not granted the pain for glivec allowing the distribution of exact copies on the market.

for that reason in two thousand and six to suit the indian state launching a landmark legal battle. this battle was so important that it could affect the access to affordable lifesaving drugs for billions of poor people worldwide. rick of course has got a patent in forty countries. for a patent in india the patent was applied for but was rejected and the waters of course wanted to see how innovation be valued in india so we are fighting the battle to get a patent in india to be more like opening the

doors the floor of the fort which india has but the fourth which we have to do with the doors will be open for all these corporates to go ahead and explode on the same lines other drugs before the same suit the other companies will go ahead and say ok if they were being granted then on the same grounds we should also be granted. no vargas claims that it started this great legal battle just so that it's peyton gets recognition and the circulation of generics will not be at risk in the future there's no question that if live is drawn to a patent be a big barrier against all kinds of general products i don't see the logic of it at all and in fact you should ask the people who are telling you to explain that logic to you basic to go to court and block a number of genetic companies on a number of different don't know why this is made that this has nothing to do with

monopoly or the pricing going skyrocket if it is not the case the way filing the case if that is not the case then go back to your office and start working for the benefit of the society while you did based on your time in the courts. i. thought he had got that vic us is hiv positive and a member of an activist group that fights for access to cheap medicines. he remembers the time before generics entered the antiretroviral drugs market when aids treatment cost almost ten thousand dollars a month. now it costs less than two hundred fifty dollars to two forty dollars per month but company which is giving it it's making profit off of it is not giving it for free right it's not giving it no profit no loss also it is making profit out of it and good enough profit. to its employees for them it's very easy to see that all

of the drugs are not available but for us if if you don't pick one drug no a favorite of ours but as it starts to replicate so for me it's a matter of life and. self-sufficiency was central to the political philosophy of independent india's patriarch mahatma gandhi who believed of his country did not need western

technology in order to be independent on clothes food or medicines. the government's policy dating back. was that india should be self-sufficient in the production of food and medicine. and not only did he have no interest in he had a patent system that said you could not understand. this philosophy was ingrained in india's legal framework on peyton's which resulted in the highly important one thousand nine hundred seventy act for peyton's. thank. you. introduction of the nineteen seventy bit and it was only the brawl since a big asians the beach with. not. let a simple you know and

begin to has invented a ball says. if making it but. the invention is denying him the balls it's. only the balls. not the burden. this policy provided the opportunity for great local generics industry to be developed in order to cater for the great need of the local population which totals almost one point two billion people. i think you know needed i think we thought. the benefit of having patent. on the cost of medicine to the point of death so basically what india said was that because companies like d.s.p. pfizer and apple i think the drugs too high in the air in the sixty's in new chemists needed to be needed to set up facilities where we could make the drugs

ourselves and these are public sector facilities which the government and they basically sort of not sure an industry into making the drugs that they needed for themselves but of course the moment the industry started to grow other developing countries and you're going to do an m.s.f. doctors access to the drugs from the very same source so it benefited of course you know for example in gas malaria program or t.v. program but it also benefited patients outside of india. as a result india became the greatest global power in the production of generic drugs and at the same time protect the population and financial interests. and india is the frog. to have the word of medicines today medicines and even see in today's prices made in india is sold in u.s. sold in utah the sword enough tickets sold in south america and genetics probably make up sixty seventy percent no longer going to make up seventy percent of the.

medicine so so does no fear of what you might call the quality of the medicine i think the concern is about they didn't aches from the fact that because of the lower costs some people suspect. lower standards were no examples of drugs from the names. of drugs that they have to be to cold because we found that there were some problems with quality some boxes that were not so. good and so on so if you have a system in place that if you have to re mechanism that guarantees that your drugs of good quality then they're more like your actual active ingredient that the drug has doesn't really come with the pot and when you swallow your appeal you don't swallow also they trade names like nobody's for i don't know what other company pfizer he just sort of this particular chemical molecule that will help your body to fight infection or out of a disease everyday glittery authority or any of these bigger countries they come to

the factory before the three of them licenses example enough actually we had the u.s. if to get. approval we have german approval we have a pool from greece to be sent to the other two so selling a product moody's we have people from australia so that it is a system where all regulatory authorities don't take chances they all come and make sure the proposition because those in place would lead then the ilo. thank.

outside of mumbai's counts are hospitals the patients relatives come for months on end. and i have been here for three months. but my son has cancer here on the side. he had surgery

we're staying here. but there was a lump in my chest. i went to get tested and they told me it was cancer and let me go. again saturday. what should i do all the money i have saved was spent on the trip to come here it is gone yeah. i love it but what will i do know. that where will i go where will i stay. mr kumar is a professor of oncology and works for one of the country's largest counter hospitals . india to be have almost one million new cases at the.

beach of which i mean reprinted by what we call it would miss the total number of cases you'd be close to ten million. only a small percentage who can get the helpful one to mr accompanied if that employee of the government is sponsor government employees they can get the investment treatment so in such a setup like here comes the biosimilars with the same quality can produce similar refugees or religion at the top of the price or even less a place and i think it becomes a bit of a useful thing for the system. well . it's technology innovation all the developments from around russia we. covered.

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