coming up on r t the close sun is out in washington d.c. and across the nation since midnight the federal government has been shutdown while congress bickers over a spending deal the american people want. the latest on the shutdown and its effect . in afghanistan there's a shakeup in the ranks of the u.s. military two generals were fired for not having adequate protection of a giant base that was stormed by tall of on fighters more on that coming up and reverend jesse jackson was invited to by the colombian rebel group the farm to mediate the release of a hostage but colombian president has actually refused that meeting we'll talk about that and more with the reverend himself later in the show.

it's tuesday october first eight pm in washington d.c. i'm meghan lopez and you are watching r.t. well happy government shutdown day everyone because of congress is in the ability and unwillingness to find a compromise on a spending bill the government has now shut down for the first time in seventeen years across the country over four hundred parks the museums have been closed and some eight hundred thousand people have received for a loan notices twenty hours into the shutdown and congress is still no closer to a resolution in fact we might be moving the exact opposite direction the senate voted today to reject the house's request to hold formal talks on a stopgap spending bill and a conference committee and so with the sale mate continues i was joined earlier by political commentator sam sachs for the latest on this game of chicken. on capitol

hill and i first asked him if we are any closer to a compromise short answer no shortly after midnight as you mentioned imagine republicans send back a spending house republicans sent back a spending bill to the senate with obamacare members attached to it and then asked the senate to hold a conference committee with them to come up with a bill now conference committee is when the senate passes a bill and the house pass a bill their differences they come together to work out those differences of course as senate democrats have been asking for a conference for the past a year to get a budget a full budget passed rather than the six week spending resolution and republicans now have decided to call for this conference after the government shut down so the senate democrats have said republicans are being disingenuous here they were ject of the call for conference and stripped out the obamacare stuff again so it's back on the house now there are reports that house republicans might consider another spending bill that keeps the government opens up the government partially some parks some veterans administration services but the senate democrats came forward today and said no we want

a full spending bill as president obama said this is the job of congress is to pass is to make sure the government is stays open and continues its its necessary functions and until republicans come to the table and the democrats are going to budge either so that's where we stand right now almost into the evening of this first day of a government shutdown sam is there any indication how long the shutdown could last have you heard from any democrats or republicans about how long they are willing to hold out while it remains to be seen i mean we can go back to ninety five ninety six the government shutdowns didn't really last more than a week there but of course this is a different time there are different issues. at stake here and you have a much more aggressive tea party republican caucus here that seems very much willing to continue this now interestingly the house republican leadership held a press conference today and budget chairman paul ryan republican budget chairman suggested that this debate might go all the way to the debt limit. in two weeks

here's what he said. we have to get this right now that is coming in two weeks most but three in the past. have always involved it in the least we think that's the forcing mechanism just like the elected president obama signs for all that it's in all likelihood or like making a senate orders and anybody really always like to get it because the minutes that we think will be divorcing actually to bring these two parties together even that though is like unlikely to bring the two parties together because house republicans are going trying to attach things related to obamacare related to the keystone pipeline to a delegate increase the senate democrats aren't going to go along with it and that president obama again reiterated that he's not going to negotiate over over the debt limit so that has some republicans coming forward looking at the situation saying look we fought the good fight we've lost that was what congressman rendell said this morning a republican we heard congressman peter king another republican echoed those same

sentiments last night and i caught up with democratic congressman charlie rangle and asked him what he thinks about these more moderate republicans coming forward and trying to join democrats pass a clean spending resolution and here's what congressman rangel said. they are not courageous. but pushed the way. they could they could raise you say no to a challenge to the leadership of the party that is relying on as you noted to maintain leadership so these people would say this doesn't make sense if you want to change your look this is not the way to do it we're going to have their chance last night to do this they could have defeated the spending bill for republicans could have defeated a spending bill last night and join with democrats to pass a clean bill but they decided not to but as the government shutdown continues you can imagine pressure building more and more on these moderate republicans to come forward join with democrats and demand that a clean spending bill come to the floor of the house. to be passed and reopen the

government and sam we have less than a minute left but what are the economic consequences of a prolonged government shutdown well in ninety five ninety six the price tag was about a little over billion dollars we're seeing something that each day now a days it's about a three hundred million dollars economic loss when the government is shut down moody's estimates are that this person persists for another three to four weeks we could see fifty five billion dollars. in economic losses for the united states so it's not just lost wages that we're talking of people being furloughed it's lost business activity it's lost tourism in these affects compound week to week so the longer this goes on the worse and worse the economic consequences get that seems to always be the case when you have a threat or a government shutdown as we indeed do have right now political commentator sam facts on the hill for us thank you so much for more on the government shutdown and where we go from here i was joined earlier by daniel for rajeev director at grassroots political consulting as well as mark levine former congressional

attorney and host of the inside scoop and i started off by asking daniel hall all of this came about. well this all was a convoluted strategy of senator ted cruz in order to spur fund raising and expand a fundraising list the house g.o.p. got caught off guard by this entire announcement this is the premise of the entire situation and in a desperate attempt to show that they were doing something where here where we are today in addition to that since two thousand and seven there is not been a budget passed under regular order so an abdication of responsibility from both parties on passing a budget and creating the tension that we have today feeds into where we are today but this is nothing but a blame game in the g.o.p. is going to suffer for this one long term so what is it going to take to get the g.o.p. and the democrats to work together mark it's going to take the american people to get angry it's going to take them a calling republicans it's going to take frankly wall street to collapse

a little bit it's going to take the debt ceiling deadline approaches people to panic and people will panic and i think it's going to hurt republicans for quite a long time to come that once it'll hurt most are the few moderate republicans left the ones in the northeast the ones in states that still are competitive the ones that matter most frankly in the twenty fourteen elections it's interesting the majority republicans didn't want to do this then points out this is a strategy for i minority of a minority ted cruz is running for president he wants to do some fund raising but they've backed himself into a corner and now they don't want to blink and yet they have to because the government has to be funded but this can't be solely blamed about fringe segment of the republican party let's play let's face it the democrats played a big role in this as well right definitely both parties as a premise played a role into where we are today into the underlying tension however this was i mean if the g.o.p. would have really strategized and really wanted to defund work on defunding this

law they could have the backbone and attack that made to tour the spending side and expose medicare and medicaid costs have so. the rest and addition to that they could have just skipped the defunding and just gone for. other options the individual mandate or the medical device tax passed the c.r. with dad trying to negotiate a more long term c.r. i mean there was a lot better strategic plays that they had but i have to agree over here with mark i mean they did backed themselves into a corner they took the cruz and rubio feud back and forth one trying to one up each other and created the situation of today however the one thing i do say the g.o.p. will definitely suffer unless they find a way to come back to a cohesive message and with weak leadership that's probably not going to happen but i think the entire political structure is going to suffer because i noticed the difference between this polling wise in ninety six is it was a lot closer to a full across the board blame of both parties they kicked the bums out mentality

and they have this prolongs itself it's going to continue on that path as well poor people understand though why the republicans are far more to blame than democrats you know the democrats simply want to keep the government going they frankly want to keep the government going at republican spending levels so this isn't a fight like the normal fight over how much to spend democrats have caved in completely to republican spending levels that's what they're putting forward republicans say look we know that obamacare is going be very popular and it's starting today and american people are going to like it we have to stop it before it starts we don't like this law but the concept united states says how you pass laws and obamacare was passed in the constitution if they don't like it they can try to pass a law to overturn it there are many things democrats want we'd like to see better gun control frankly but we don't say we're going to shut down the government let you give us what we want and that's an apt point that president obama made in his rose garden speech today now on daily beast special correspondent michael to man city wrote in an op ed that what's happening here isn't hostage taking it's political terrorism what are your thoughts on that i think that's the case i begin

the democrats are offering simply to keep the government going they're not attaching conditions to it they're. saying we want background checks for the mentally ill to get guns which we very much like but we know we can't pass through regular order we try and we're not attaching conditions by attaching conditions the republicans are setting up something that if it were to prevail would really damage american politics for decades to come because democrats will start touching conditions and nothing would ever get done so i think it is terrorism and i think the democrats have to stand firm not just for the democratic party but to prevent this tactic for being used in the future and danielle let's go ahead and talk about some of the future consequences that can weigh down the economy as a result of all of this standard and poor's just two years ago as a result of the threat of a government shutdown downgraded our aaa ratings i have actually a quote from forbes from standard and poor's research team about what's going on they said the current impasse over continuing resolution and debt ceiling creates an atmosphere of uncertainty that could affect confidence investment and hiring in the u.s. this sort of political brinksmanship is the dominant reason why the u.s.

at the rating is no longer a triple a so obviously they have no more. no more authority to to upgrade that than that that aaa rating score so what are we doing here are we really driving the economy back into a recession well it's amazing since that point of failure in leadership on both sides of the aisle abdication of responsibility again even after the downgrade we still haven't had a budget under regular order since two thousand and seven neither party is getting the job done nobody's governing and the president right now as well is not helping the situation he's out there making speeches taking shots at everybody instead of pulling people into a room using the pope but he has been telling everyone let's get the job done but the residual effect is you had asked is this shutdown is devastating to the micro business people opening cafeterias food trucks concession stands and as this

continues on those are the real people that are getting hurt on top of that go. women employees trying to pay a mortgage everybody is getting hurt really again for except for lawmakers because their paychecks keep coming but i do before i let you guys go i do have to show you a couple of tweets that came out from reporters from last night talking about how drunk they thought the congress members were in the voting so you have these different people talking about oh the consumer l the breaths of the congressman i mean does this kind of show the attitude of congress at this point that they aren't even taking this well seriously look with the american people and twenty four republican congress i came on t.v. and i said the american people maybe don't know a but they're voting for gridlock they're voting for a dysfunctional congress so you know the extent that americans are complaining get only ten percent approval rating for congress i would argue americans voted for this dysfunction and they need to fix that in two thousand and fourteen by voting for the only party that's having coherent proposals and i would argue that's my

party the democratic party that is the appeal of mark levine former congressional attorney and the host of the inside scoop and i was also joined by daniel for director at the cannes grassroots political consulting thank you so much thank you all right will it has been less than twenty four hours since the government shutdown and already we are seeing physical effects from this political stalemate national parks are kicking visitors out and that's not all the beloved panda cam has gone dark but don't worry the time magazine staff has your need for the panda pictures covered as a result of the panda shutdown the staff has a live stream of its own going until the real panda cam comes back on the staff promise to keep the feed going and to feed and occasionally hug the panda companion for our own entertainment on the internet but for a look at some of the other signs of the government shutdown right here in d.c. here's our tease wall. it's day one of

a government shutdown it comes after lawmakers here failed to come up with a short term spending bill to fund the government now roughly eight hundred thousand federal workers are out of a job washington is feeling the pain it's really frustrating for the american people and for myself to see you know our government be so inefficient local businesses say they're getting worried we depend on the government here especially for this business and we have a lot of agencies around here so we're just going to turn a little quiet around here is among the businesses offering special shutdown deals we don't know with the purchase of a donor with a government i.d. big bust still big bust tourism is at a standstill with iconic landmarks shut down most of the places. for business are closed today all thousands of people come to d.c. each year to visit the monuments and museums but today at many of these places like here at the natural history museum they're greeted with

a sign like this one announcing that they're closed this family traveled from arizona to do some sightseeing we drove our kids from going arizona thousands of miles across the country hoping to. you know show them the national treasures and teach him a little bit a little bit about american history and show him how great this country is instead we're learning about government the world war two memorial was closed to visiting veterans until members of congress came to help break the barrier among them congresswoman michele bachmann maybe eight to twelve of us members one member had a scissor cut the tape and then we just passed port at veterans bachmann blames the democrats for the shutdown we haven't even gotten return calls most of the time from the president or from harry reid even the last one the last bill said will fully fund the government body which is sit down with us so we go. iron out some

concerns that we have harry reid said next to that you just take our way or no way but many others point their finger out the republicans they're the ones who put the obamacare bill into the phony bill that has no business being there the hope now is that a deal come soon so everyone can get back to business as usual in washington. while for the first time since the vietnam war the us marine corps has fired not one but two generals for not adequately preparing and protecting a base in southern afghanistan major general charles corps ganis was the top marine commander in southern afghanistan and major general greg sturtevant was the senior marine aviation officer when the taliban attack resulted in the deaths of two marines and the destruction of almost an entire squadron of u.s. fighter jets it happened back on september fourteenth of last year at camp bastiaan a british run nato air base in helmand province that lies right next to the u.s.

says camp leatherneck fifteen taliban insurgents attacked the base wounding eight soldiers killing two and destroying aircrafts worth nearly two hundred million dollars the u.s. central command says that they were easily able to enter the encampment because the nearest watchtower to where they entered was left hand the marine corps blames the reduced security on troop drawdowns imposed by president obama over just a six month period the number of troops that general ghana's this command was actually reduced from seventeen thousand four hundred and one to seven thousand and four hundred the area his troops are responsible for spanned roughly thirty six thousand miles per hand as did request additional forces but was turned down the commandment who fired the general says that he should have allocated his staff to ensure the safety of that base but he did not but regardless the attack with. the single largest loss of allied materials in the entire war in afghanistan and for

that someone has to pay this time it's two generals. civil rights leader jesse jackson is fighting for the release of an american military veteran who was captured by colombian rebels three months ago u.s. citizen and marine veteran kevin scott was captured by the revolutionary armed forces of colombia while on a hiking trip on saturday reverend jackson accepted an invitation by the fork to intervene but getting out of the country really is not that easy colombian president juan of mondale's santos wrote on his twitter that only the red cross will be authorized to facilitate the handover of the north american captured by the fark he says we will not allow a media spectacle the problem is that the red cross has been trying to stay out of the conflict so where do we go from here reverend jesse jackson is the founder and president of the rainbow push coalition and he joined me earlier i asked him how he

got involved in this case to begin with. it was say as an american veteran who was a lost somewhere in the jungles of colombia and he was thought to be a terrorist i spy he in fact wasn't tourists but the fog now recognizes and they're willing to turn him over to me unilaterally and on condition that when i was in colombia thought conference two weeks ago i felt that we could support the peace process between colombia and the rebels in cuba and that amount to release cabin scott would be a step in the right direction a good gesture the thought reached back to the man said i would come to huber they would discuss it with them discuss his release discuss the support of the government on ending the drug flow by the ground real vegetables and not poppy seeds they would choose the battle of the bullet but they were going the right direction then they said you're going to have him the caviar the as he is in the

jungle in a war zone in colombia it have to have the protocol of a cease fire on both sides and we were going with the red cross through tree from so they save us route is free the most to retrieve i think now that our government finally gotten involved with the colombian government trying to find someone to retrieve the freed american hostage so what are some of the other astable that you are currently facing right now to get him out of colombia and what will it and take to get him out. well one the obstacle was the role of nova. fishel in colombia she stepped aside as along a reason. now all we need is. a cease fire on the plot of the government and the rebels and as a zone of safety the rick ross and then get involved and do the law just six of getting them out well most accent of the novel made to do it looks like an outsider

had to resolve it so you can get someone from the inside of the big if someone from colombia was trusted by the flock and the government let them in the records bring him out is just not my freedom it is kevin scott freedom i hope our government which is in direct contact with the sent those will get him out within forty eight hours if not i'm going back to colombia if they then to the set free now reverend jackson as i has read earlier carlos santana santos the president over there had it written a tweet out saying that the red cross should be the one that intervened and that actually i'm retrieve today from this group but he also said that you being involved would create a media media spectacle what do you have to say about that. this is a very serious and risk and rather dangerous mission i think most offenders so it's a good job either not want to respond to his anxiety and his fear because his fear

by the media's precipice on found that to bring the chemist got out would be a media event be a positive one for the father in the government and the fog to arrive at an agreement to choose a balance of a bullet in the growth of roads in the country and to choose democracy of a military government there's a hell of a big media event but these the media vested make us whole. sure now at the same time colombia is in the middle of aggressions with the fark rebels speaking from the u.s. standpoint president obama and others have said that the u.s. does not negotiate with terrorists why should we expect the colombian government to do so. called iran terrorist next week these talks in the fall and president obama which is the right thing to do we should not use is a red line language above that is to stop us from talk and it's not easy it's not difficult to talk with the allies you have to tell which advice there is to bring

about peace to bring peace between war in fact is not between friend the facts and so i'm glad mr sanders has endorsed the fark and his government talking in cuba and he was involved in the week is involved i happen to think that those ago if he's the go in for the world but they must go through quickly that they have the desired impact inside and this isn't the first hostage negotiation that if you've actually taken a part of that well no we did so in syria. on the saddam hussein and brought to the rub a good bit about what is in cuba night in ada for we did so and and there rack and yugoslavia and syria on the saga did so in liberia did so and in the game because what we've done is six or seven times so we come to know how to do it in the mouth of timing and jasmine we know how to do this and we want to do it because release the hostages always a key to a peaceful conflict resolution and finally do you think that the red cross is

prepared to arrange this release and actually do it successfully. the rick ross is prepared to do logistics not be in the gauche either and that's the role that they should play it the thought was a person that they can trust and so the colombian government which is fire live both of them agree on a person and the rick ross of the systems because if that piece is all they see the signal on the red cross on the on the helicopter of the on that helicopter is a good thing if i can say in the beginning of a cease fire for a day that one but two days three days five is so let's let's stop the war the jews bogen table overbalanced deal the battle of the bullet let's get out of the battlefield let's stop the killing militia is our rule efforts to stop the flow of drugs in that country that has a devastating impact about the region and the world reverend jesse jackson good luck in your efforts to free this american citizen that is captured right now by

the fark thank you so much for joining us thank you very much for decades tech advancements have made it easier to produce more with fewer workers but that means these bots are taking the jobs of average americans it's a trend that will likely continue as research forges on for more of the world of robots the residents laurie harkness. if you believe the bible tells us that the meek are set to inherit the earth but in america today that's hard to believe as we continuously see the meek steamrollered

by corporate greed and one thing it's flattened beyond all recognition is our job market it seems like only crappy jobs are available for the meek now and in the future they'll be lucky to even get those in a recent paper entitled the future of employment how susceptible are jobs to computerization research fellows from oxford an exit or asserts that almost half of us employment could be at risk for computerisation they conclude it's plausible that more of our jobs will go to automated machines and robots some of the jobs with the highest probability of computerization they list were pretty surprising referees bartenders cooks tour guides models blackjack dealers and bakers just to name a few all of those jobs could be filled by robots in the not too distant future and with corporate greed that driving the job training here in america there's

a good chance that's where we're heading because robots don't need health insurance you can pay them a lot less to work twenty four seven and they certainly won't complain about the boss. so here's the question just because a robot can do a job more cheaply than a human or even more efficiently does that mean it should how the hell are we supposed to unload our depressing stories to the robot bartender isn't it that enough for women to feel inferior to a human model how horrible would it be to feel inferior to over robot model here we are squabbling about job creation and acting like government is responsible for employment when really our corporations are the ones killing it in their own ending quest for the best bottom line and highest profit they are sacrificing human interaction and self esteem if we continue on this trend we might just find human kind completely on the sidelines as we watch the legion of world bots we created

take over it's not the me course that to inherit the earth it's the robots and they're bound to do it all while looking a hell of a lot hotter than us to tonight's but to talk about that by following me on twitter at the resident. all right that doesn't for me for tonight but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r.t. america or check our web site r t v dot com slash usa and to find out what i'm doing when i'm not bring you today's top stories follow me on twitter at meghan underscore lopez i want to hear from you did you like the coverage you saw today did you not like it what do you think about the government shutdown the panda cam i don't care tweet me at meghan underscore lopez and don't forget to tune in at nine

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