behind nine eleven is running for president that's right. is a former islamist warlord and was named by the nine eleven commission report as the mentor of cold lead. while twelve years later i guess we can finally say mission accomplished. the. it was a. very hard to make. sure. that you ever had to act with the terror threat there are those. that believe.

you ever get the feeling that arguments you hear on t.v. are mostly baseless oftentimes the certainty we hear from pundits and politicians alike is really just a smokescreen for a lack of a logical argument here's an example. for a member there were two government shutdowns in the month before ronald reagan ran for president in one nine hundred eighty four and he won by a landslide the american people fear obama care it's more in popular now than ever before well i was michele bachmann engaging in what's known as a fallacious argument ok so she's nonsensically stringing together a bunch of random events all to assert her position on obama care and while someone like michele bachmann might be an easy one to call out for lacking the logic fallacies come in many forms in fact we're all guilty of committing these on reasonable arguments on a daily basis so how can we better understand logical fallacies and work to combat

them every day or earlier i was joined by matt berkowitz corner with the movement and a lecturer of logical fallacies i first asked him what the most commonly use fallacies are today. three prominent ones. one was called. well there where we hear what i know we hear an idea and we tend to make sense of it was pumped to understand already so if someone is criticizing for example the free market system it's a natural tendency to this go ahead and label that communism or socialism of course anything that's that's not or must be one of those two things so that's the association you know there's of course the the straw man fallacy which means a lot. then they don't understand what you're what. you putting forth so again they try to misrepresent it to make it easier to attack. and i guess

another really common one would be called the argument from ignorance you see there's a lot of them up in says come up a lot in religious debate but also in social. we tend to inject our own preferential explanations it's perceived gaps of knowledge so we don't understand why someone behaves the way that it must be because of human nature must be because of their dreams we haven't really studied the reason for why this behavior is manifested in the way it has but you know we we just like having that support so we just plug in whatever nonsense sounds best to us without actually looking at the data right then you have the ad hominem which is just outright insults changing the goalpost which is what jane the subject of the argument that i needed to hear the wind in sweeping generalizations of course you know it seems like these fallacies are often so obvious when you deconstruct them why do so many people continue to commit them. i think it's largely because of the value system that's dominant in our society today we live in the we do live in an

established system where institutions and individuals themselves products. themselves one way we do this is by attaching ourselves to different ideologies different emotional comforts like religion and such that when these ideas all of these are challenged when these beliefs are challenged it becomes very painful to consider. that you're wrong well they certainly don't like to be called out on their logical fallacies i know that you know is this all just a failure in the education system i think in part but i think the education system is really just a result of the economic system the economic system is predicated on on institutions perpetuating themselves this trickles into the education system so i mean i know for one i went through a whole university degree the top of lagerfeld never at all maybe i didn't take the

right courses but i mean it's just simply not gotten the education just very well right and you know you're talking about how you dealt with a logical fallacies and in terms of those eyes then it kind of debunking the bunkers specifically in dealing with social advocating for social change how has this tool helped you to analyze that. well in the communication and for myself i suppose it's just. allowed me to not get too emotional about discussing these ideas if someone gets angry at me i just remind myself ok well they're just a victim of or they're the result of whatever upbringing they've been subject to and if people or people don't want to hear the information then there's really not much you can move on to the next person but in terms of actually applying the understanding that people make these is a logical fallacy and simply just try to counter them. beginning so you progress

your your explanation by saying that what we're proposing is nothing to do with this this and this and those and those are the main. fallacies that they make so you just just try to overcome them and. i guess anticipate them wherever possible in the short answer and i guess what's the danger of not recognizing his logical fallacies from the media politicians and really a missing child there in society one of the news division i mean if you're if you're a guest if you're vulnerable to for example the association fallacy where everything that's not. right wing is luckier and then you it really. artificially limits your frame of reference things start to analyze problems much smaller box rather than actually seeing much larger picture so. by not recognizing these fallacies you're not you're going to stir yourself and everyone around you by

not really taking the whole picture. and matt are there any tools that you can give people in general to use into ciphering fallacious arguments being used against them. just for review whatever topic that you're studying is and become familiar with the most often used ones. once you once you read on many different there are there and more and become comfortable with that norton starts them everywhere across the media and yet it isn't just in this forest pretty much everywhere all we need to start combating them calling them out so we can really move forward with intellectual discourse because it's a very lacking to cite a thank you so much and that berkowitz coordinator and lecture of his like i say event. thanks so much.

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clueless a new fashion show. also designed. in the best shop window. luxury is a school. this is a lost cause. talks are going on are cheap. real damage and complexity of this oil spill is not something you grasp just by looking at dirty. birds we have between forty five million people in this directly affected area of the coast and it's pretty clear why it's not being reported because b.p. can't afford to have a reported all along the gulf coast are clean they are safe and they're open for

business if b.p. is the single largest oil contributor to the pentagon the us war machine is heavily reliant upon b.p. and their oil this is a huge step backwards for the marker c. it's a step forward for the oligarchy carex it is toxic as it looked like spray can be and it was it was not a picture that either the government or b.p. really wanted to have out there i don't want dispersants to be the agent on. this.

not many people can cross over from being a combat veteran to a hollywood actor to the governor of a state unless of course you're jesse ventura to live in a world of professional wrestling ventura ran for mayor and then governor of minnesota as an independent candidate proving that defeating the two party monopoly is possible and since leaving politics he's hosted his own t.v. show called conspiracy theory of jesse ventura and is now a bestselling author his new book is called they killed our president sixty three reasons to believe there was a conspiracy to assassinate j.f.k. while enjoying the earlier. break it all down. i want to get your take on the shutdown taxpayers elect congress they pay their salaries congress seems to have no disagreement on bombing countries and spine and they know that they have a ten percent approval rating so how is it that they have the gall to hold americans hostage indefinitely. i'll tell you it's beyond my comprehension i don't

know how you know these congressmen and senators they shut the government down because they don't want us to have health care for everybody yet very themselves have four different plans they can each choose from for their health care provided by the government so it is not government run health care. to me it is indeed especially the g.o.p. cutting of food stamps at receiving millions of dollars in subsidies for their farms let's talk about your new book you're promoting it called they killed our president sixty three reasons to believe there is a conspiracy to assassinate j.f.k. thank you so much for sending me those i can't wait to read it and the book outlines sixty three reasons to believe this was a conspiracy can you elaborate on what you found to be the most compelling reason of all all there are so many compelling reasons for the sixty three that while one

i'll give you a few things one thing the warren commission lied about jack ruby and lee harvey oswald knew each other very well jack ruby had stated that he knew. he was a kid now and i'll. bet that very changed the whole assassination because the warren commission told us so there was no connection jack ruby killed him because he didn't want jackie to face a horrible trial like we're all supposed to buy into bad and remember this the only quote jackie kennedy ever said about this she said they killed. they she didn't say he killed by a husband she was poor ole you know there's there are so many like. we've got the cats in back memo which i lead the book off with because i felt that was so important mainstream media has never even shown it to the public nicholas katz and backwards the acting attorney general monday morning naturally bobby had lost his brother he was uncommon in to work on monday so he was the acting attorney general

this is a memo from him to lyndon johnson the new president and he explains how in the memo we have to make the public know that all the acted alone that he had no partners who are still out there conspirators who acted with him and that he would have been convicted had there been a trial all of this laid out in a memo if that's not a smoking gun to the government's coverup see to cover ups took place to conspiracies there was the actual conspiracy to shoot j.f.k. and murder him and then there was the conspiracy afterwards to cover it up. and you know it's so unfortunate that so much evidence has been destroyed and get there are so many unanswered questions i mean how much is available that's more than just circumstantial all there's still a lot there still withholding tons of evidence and you know what you can't get today you cannot get lee harvey oswald's tax returns now someone might see why is

that important first of all you'd say well why can't you get it fifty years that can't be national security i'll tell you why it's important if we could get lee harvey oswald's tax return that would leave a paper trail to who was paying him and that paper trail would lead right back to our own government because lee harvey oswald was a low level government agent or you know the fact he was in fact he was involved when he went to the soviet union it's already been proven he was involved in what they called a false defector program that the united states government was running at that time getting young guys to allegedly defect to the so. just a majority of americans believe that they believe that j.f.k. was assassinated by a conspiracy and also a majority of people have questions about nine eleven also knowing this how does it feel to go on shows like piers morgan and other shows in the mainstream media and

to be ridiculed and painted as a lunatic for bringing up these issues well because we'll show you in the book that that was the. mission to anyone that question it that's all they do they try to marginalize you they try to make it seem like you're a conspiracy not that that's where the mainstream media comes in because they are also culpable in this deal because excuse me many times you hear while someone would have talked to many people have talked it's simply mainstream media won't report that they did i'll give you an example i have an audio visual and written confession from howard hunt from watergate of the cia he did a deathbed confession to his son john hunt we've got it all on tape we aired it on my t.v. show it should have been headlines across america the howard hunt admits he was part of j.f.k.

conspiracy to kill and it didn't receive one word of mainstream media coverage not a word that. had confessed to outside participation even maimed who did it you know cord cord meyer of the cia morales who was. i forget the other guy who was the head of the cia's assassination team and all that and where do we get off having cia assassination teams at what point in time did our country allow a premeditated first degree murder of someone with out in the rest a trial and a conviction seems like commonplace now jesse you've also said speaking at the cia that there cia operatives working in every state government first of all how do you know this and what are they doing there well i don't know what they're doing or how do i know this because there's governor i was introduced to the person. and they wear two hats they work at

a high level of government but they don't come and go with governors or anything very very all the time they do one job for the state and they wear a second to have as a central intelligence agent and what troubles me about that is in the cia's mission statement it states there not to be operational inside the united states that's the f.b.i. his job. you know speaking of extrajudicial assassination i want to get your opinion on this as the renowned journalist seymour hersh just came out saying and the loddon narrative is a big lie do you agree that we've been lied to about what happened to bin laden i have a lot of questions because he had a disease that had him on one of those machines i alison thank you it's been a long day. he was on dialysis machine how could this guy be wandering around the hills of afghanistan with a dialysis machine and we can't find them. well

let's look at the whole nine eleven conspiracy for a moment here's what the government told us that nineteen islamic radicals armed with box cutters defeated our multi-billion dollar air defense system all while conspiring with a bearded guy in a cave in afghanistan you know i just find it shocking that the american people don't demand evidence or any sort of closure about this event that they have you know obama campaigned on it the death of bin laden killing this guy no trial nothing at all just really bizarre jessie and as a former navy seal do you find it weird that seal team six a group that in bodies this extrajudicial assassination has been glorified in the mainstream and i know i'm i'm upset that people even know about the seal team because back when i was in the navy they weren't even hardly known to the public now they've turned them into the green berets movies about them about them bad about them it was much better in the old days where we simply wore green uniforms

would jump wings of war no other insignias at all to indicate who we were. seal team six was the highly secretive one in fact my good friend dick marcinko was the creator of seal team six he writes all the rogue warrior books dick's the one that created seal team six the anti-terrorist unit and i've had personal. friends that have served in seal team six they weren't even knowing that they would even acknowledge seal team six six existed and now today they're like every day everyone knows that everyone wants to be one and hollywood wants to exploit jimmy carter who said that the us has one of the worst election processes in the world pretty strong words from former president and governor you've called for paper ballots to replace voting machines but my thing is that you know we have the technology should we be able to use the technology that exists today the problem is when the machines are own by mitt romney or bush or obama or rude whoever else i mean really what is the root of the issue we're here here's the problem and i'll disagree with you we don't

want these electronic voting machines because they can be hacked into like any other computer let me put it to you in a real easy sense would you go were jew go to a cash machine the didn't offer you were seat now i'm a.t.m. machine would you go to an a.t.m. machine that didn't offer you a receipt no why would you vote on a voting machine you have no way of knowing when you say you vote for barack obama and you push the button on barack obama you have no way of knowing if barack obama if that vote was registered to him it could go to his opponent and there's no way to have a recount because all those machines do is they give you a number like that like a bad big machine twelve hundred votes for this guy thirteen hundred votes for this guy we some things are better left old how about paper ballots where you simply fill in the circle my point is doing that since first grade when you took tests in

school fill in a b. c. or d. if a person is incapable of doing math they shouldn't be voting in the first place good point i mean same is extraordinary hacking into already over the past few years with these machines and you've also said the electoral college should be abolished i couldn't agree more and that's an antiquated system that needs to be completely removed but we're almost out of time and i wanted to bring this up. jesse you recently floated the idea of enter a how are and stern twenty six thousand presidential ticket can we get this confirmed right now you have the floor you can make the announcement right here well it takes howard i won't do it without howard and there's a method that my madness i need howard stern number one i despise raising the money it's bribery it's legal bribery what what our system is and you know you bribe the candidate you give the money that's how you get in you know if you do that in the private sector you go to jail but we have an entire political system based upon bribery while my deal is howard can raise the money then i don't even have to pay

attention to the money i'll do that governing like howard raised the money and also when i ran for governor of minnesota i had a statewide talk radio show when i filed to run i lost my job i had to go six months unemployed because the f.c.c. won't let you howard stern is not with the f.c.c. as was sirius radio we could use his radio show to be our platform to the united states of america and it would cost us zero in money i find it obscene my father once said to me when i was sixteen a world war two vet he said you know all politicians are crooks i said come on dad you can't make a blanket statement like that how do you know that he said easy he said they pay a million dollars for a job that only pays one hundred grand. about that a moment one might have had no one in the private sector would ever pay more money for a job than what they're going to earn that's the status quo except for jesse ventura

when i ran for governor of minnesota i only raised three hundred thousand dollars and i made four hundred eighty thousand my four years in office authored twenty thousand a year so i actually made more money doing the job than what i spent to get it so if my father would have been still alive. he could say by shawn is not a crook everyone you heard of everyone needs to get howard stern on board thank you so much jesse the body inventor also have you on they killed our president everyone check out the new book sixty three reasons to believe there is a conspiracy thanks so much greg you very much. well you guys that's going to do it for our show tonight if you're wondering what i'm doing when i'm not on air like our waiter dot com slash abby martin my little twitter handle there you can follow me will find all my tweets linking the segments on the show as well just i had the day like pictures of my little cat oh so please help us get break in the trending

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