coming up on our t.v. american whistle blowers have made a trip to russia for a secret meeting with former n.s.a. contractor edward snowden they presented him a special award for revealing the surveillance program more on that up ahead day ten of the government shutdown republicans are now pushing for a short term debt ceiling increase but obama and the democrats aren't playing ball so what does this mean for the economy find out coming up climate change global warming it doesn't matter what you call it scientists say we are getting closer to the point of no return a new documentary sheds light on what could happen if humanity fails to curb our carbon emissions we'll talk about that with the man behind the documentary later in the show.

it's thursday october tenth eight pm in washington d.c. and i'm meghan lopez and you are watching r.t. well starting off this hour for the first time since she was convicted of the largest leak in u.s. history chelsea manning formerly known as private bradley manning has released a letter to her supporters clarifying her reasoning for the mass document drop and criticizing people for speaking on her behalf without her consent the letter which was delivered to the guardian reads in part from my perspective at least it's not terribly clear to me that my actions were explicitly done for peace i don't consider myself a pacifist antiwar or especially a conscientious objector now i accept that there may be peace for antiwar implications to my actions but this is purely based on your subjective interpretation of the primary source document. it's released in two thousand and

ten and two thousand and eleven later on in the letter manning did clarify what she is writing i am a transparency advocates and i feel that the public cannot decide what actions and policies are or are not justified if they don't even know the most rudimentary details about them and there are facts manning was convicted in august by a military judge in fort meade maryland for twenty charges including violations of the espionage act also theft and fraud she was sentenced to thirty five years in prison but is eligible for parole in just seven years and speaking of whistle blowers former n.s.a. contractor edward snowden had some special visitors travel all the way to moscow to meet with him this week f.b.i. whistleblower just one raid act n.s.a. whistleblower thomas drake former cia analyst ray mcgovern and f.b.i. whistle blower colleen rowley met snowden in a secret location they are the first americans known to have met with him since he

was granted asylum in russia in august they travel to moscow to present snowden with the sam adams award for integrity and intelligence also long snowden edwards father arrived in the sheremetyevo airport this morning lonnie has yet to meet with his son but is planning to see him in the next couple of days archies kevin owen caught up with a group of whistleblowers today for a sort of meeting of the minds here's a wrap up of that conversation well you know some would call the veteran whistleblowers just would rather. read mcgovern coley rowley to run the table with me earlier to tell me their experience as a whistle blowing themselves and how they were treated by the authorities as a result just earlier they would snowden at undisclosed location here in russia we still under heavy security to present him with the boom is a war that's been presented on you really since two thousand and two to intelligence professionals who take a stand for integrity and ethics what they see is the greater good incidentally samuel adams was a cia whistle blow to the vietnam war. now we've been extensively covering edward

snowden story and i'll tell you for a long time the first thing i wanted to ask was i was the i thought he looked great he seemed very centered and and. brilliant smart funny a very engaged. i thought he looked very well then of course the olivia's question was given the time edward snowden is now it reflects on what he's done did he have any regrets when he fired right mcgovern a form of federal employees served on the seventy u.s. presidents over twenty seven years but then in two thousand and two went on to criticize president george w. bush's use of government intelligence in the lead up to the more in iraq put the very same thought to edwards this is an extraordinary person he's made his peace with what he did he's convinced that he put it he did was right he has no regrets and he's willing to face whatever the future holds for him is that the person you saw in front of e-coli yes actually we discussed this intel integrity and intelligence issue quite extensively and we talked about prior examples of great

people in history that had themselves been under this type of pressure and he's remarkably centered and thoughts went to was about the future when i asked him if edward snowden had shared any of his plans for the immediate along to future the response focused on the future reforms he's paved the way for by his revelations i think his primary concern is about reform not about his future or what's going to happen to him but more about how i think the reform that is beginning and that has begun in the united states and more importantly or just as importantly around the world because it really is a global issue to the extent that the n.s.a. is spying on everybody friend or foe and that that conversation needs to continue and also people need to realize that there's a greater issue of human rights that is brought up by asylum and the fact that a number of people in the. in his case like sarah harrison glenn greenwald war

portress people are having trouble even moving around and getting where they're going i can speak personally and say we were worried about coming into your country we are worried about getting back into our own country and that. the our united states is the butt of the rule of war that's one change itself from its very own constitution the mechanism by which we govern ourselves so when you when you have it as a rule all in use a secret law secret interpretations of law we're a whole new ball game it's pandora's box and of course these last twenty four hours we also think he's brain or about to be reunited with his daddy's over here with more scope as well who i'm sure behind closed doors will be given a good support but only of the kind that was artie's kevin know when. well it is day ten of the government shutdown and i don't need to tell you this but people are peeved how mad are they well remember when we were comparing congress to

cockroaches or to nail fungus new polls by public policy polling found that members of congress are now less popular than witches zombies jury duty potholes hipsters the d.m.v. the i.r.s. doc hoop and hemorrhoids congress's approval rating stands at a dismal five percent according to the associated press sixty one percent of americans lay the majority of the blame on republicans another a fifty two percent say that president obama could be doing more to help the situation out and it seems that there was going to be some progress within the hill of the walls of capitol hill earlier today a couple of dozen house republicans took a trip down pennsylvania avenue this afternoon to meet with president obama in order to negotiate but now it looks like this political chess match has turned into a game of deal or no deal the g.o.p. members discussed the proposal that they released today which is a six week extension of the nation's sixteen points. one trillion dollar debt limit

in order to avoid a first ever u.s. default now from the looks of john boehner is behavior after the meeting it did not go well the meeting broke up with no deal announced it appears as though president obama sent the g.o.p. back to the drawing board in order to come up with a new debt ceiling agreement however just the possibility just the possibility of these talks of a debt deal sense the stock market skyrocketing dow jones just close the day with the biggest gains of the year up to three hundred twenty three points so it is their hope for congress yes well i was trying to earlier by apne rode around as though he's the director of economic research at the reason foundation and i asked him if this temporary extension would have solved our financial woes. terms of a solution for the stock market i don't necessarily think so my popularity is probably based on the audiences that you ask in which it comes to congress his

popularity and you talk of the stock market then on the so looking at those polls they're looking at a much more long term picture in the simple reality is that the president doesn't want to negotiate at all on the government shutdown and he said if congress passes a clean debt ceiling raised for the next six weeks till accept it he'll sign it but he still doesn't want to negotiate on the shutdown so what are we looking at here how tangible is this debt limits solution really or are we just kicking the can down the road. well the debt ceiling is always been a can kicked down the road from the outset it was pretty clear the republicans didn't really want to play with fire on the debt ceiling the republicans buy into the same idea that democrats do that if the united states government defaults it's an economic catastrophe i don't necessarily think that's the case. but from the outset it didn't look like they were going to to really play chicken and this offer

on the table i think proves that the debt ceiling is a mere political tool it doesn't mean anything when push comes to shove both parties are happy to increase the amount of debt that the us government has or we probably should just get rid of it would be much better off with the spending cap sherwani i know that this is also coming if they do in fact kick it down the road it comes during the holiday season which could make it a little more tricky when it comes to that debt debate now an a.p. poll found that four in five americans say they haven't felt any personal effects from this shutdown should they expect to feel it sooner or later. it all depends on what it is you do so that people who have been feeling the effects the most are either government workers or people that use national parks people that are fishermen on the federal coastlines they'll continue to feel the same effects of the shutdown the simple reality is and i'm sure that the white house says internal polling that most people haven't felt the effects and that i think has made the president feel comfortable in continuing to to push back on the republicans and say

look i gave in to you before in two thousand and eleven i'm not going to give in again the republicans thought that they could push around the president like they have in the past it looks like they can't as long as that polling suggests that most people aren't feeling the effects the white house will probably continue to take this stand so i mean we are in day ten how much longer can we go on like this . you know it's all is going to depend on really who blinks in this political game and it's unfortunate political game because it really shouldn't be but i think that's what's going on in washington i mean i spent about five years there i know people on capitol hill and they see this in political terms they want to be able to claim victory unfortunately both sides are going to claim victory no matter what happens so they probably could just go through with anything built each side is still going to claim they won this game. how we get out of this somebody is going to have to a politically blink as the language has been going along with one side is going to have to give in the federal government is not going to remain shut down for three

four five months it's just a matter of which side begins to feel the political pain to the point where they think that they have to break that was anthony rand as oh director of economic research at the reason foundation. so right now money is not exactly flowing through the u.s. as a result of the government shutdown the money has also stopped flowing to egypt but for a different reason it's part of a so-called recalibration in the relationship between the u.s. and egypt after the military ouster of the democratically elected president mohamed morsy but a post later will stand trial this month on charges that his administration incited and committed acts of violence the state department announced a large scale cutbacks on wednesday the cuts are mostly focused on military contributions to the country so let's look at the money flow the u.s. says it will not send twelve f. sixteen fighter jets twelve apache helicopters or four take kits to the country

also being temporarily withheld two hundred sixty million dollars to the government however that money could end up in egypt depending on the outcome of talks with the i am that finally the us is not going forward with a three hundred million dollar loan to finance military programs but that is only part of the one point five. billion dollars in aid sent to egypt each year the u.s. will continue funding the international military education training program as well as education health private sector development and government strengthening programs and of course the state department will still send some military help in the form of equipment for parts to cairo so this could be the first tangible geo political shift that we have coming from the u.s. in what has been a long relationship with one of the closest allies in the region we'll have to wait and see if that money once starts to flow once again once new elections are held

and another egyptian leader has taken over. as the u.s. continues to withdraw from afghanistan the question now is how we will move forward with relations in the region the fact is that the middle east isn't what it was a decade ago dictators have been toppled young democracies are trying to plot a path through territory and the opinion of the u.s. in the region has fallen artie's sam sachs looks at the challenges the military faces in coming years and how the previous decade may have set the stage for conflict in the future. i hear the daily beast here a summit which gathers military leaders politicians and journalists gathered to talk about the role of the u.s. military in a rapidly changing world of this conference arrives just as the twelfth anniversary of the afghanistan war comes and goes this week with troops still on the ground there plus news of new raids in africa is part of the global war on terrorism so the question is where has more than

a decade of military intervention around the world left us well for one with a destabilized africa and middle east sooner john mccain talked about the troubles in libya and syria two countries that are military of either directly or indirectly influenced in recent years first in libya where their prime minister was recently kidnapped and then released by militants what we did a hands off leading from behind and now we see this situation in a crisis and these militias as you say. leadership that is not as strong as we would hope and the situation is going to i'm afraid be chaotic for some time into syria where the united states has been funneling weapons to the rebels in their fight against the assad government there too mccain was pessimistic i can't tell you how demoralized the free syrian army are and that's why some of them are now moving over into the radical islamic camp because they

think that they have been abandoned so despite years of u.s. military intervention in the region more fires are burning today than in the years before this global war began the same is true of the threat of terrorism itself former n.s.a. chief michael hayden joined other national security experts to talk about al qaida is growing strength since the u.s. war on terror began al qaeda controlling more territory and having more to hear and today than they have at any time in their history and i actually think that's true doesn't mean we're less safe than we were ten eleven twelve years ago doesn't mean we haven't been very successful. the recent attack on the shopping mall in nairobi was fresh on everyone's mind and former member of the house intelligence committee and now president of the wilson center jane harman talked about similar threats coming to the united states and this is an evolving threat and they attack asymmetrically they have to be right once we have to be right whoever we is whether we is kenya or the us or france or britain we have to be right one hundred percent

of the time to block them that's impossible and anyone who says there is one hundred percent security is absolutely wrong but there was some acknowledgement that the united states military should tread lightly when confronting this new breed of terrorism coming from africa a new strategy could involve using nonmilitary tools and if we don't figure out a way using our face or the face of others to provide economic aid and help improve education as in not good education or no education especially for girls we're never going to get out of the soup and so despite the warm embrace of us militarism at conferences like these it's pretty well recognized that there are still a lot of problems existing all around the world one has to wonder if it's the u.s. military that's making them worse in washington sam sachs r t well move over al gore there's a new documentary out on the internet that attacks the issue of global warming take

a look. sort of getting late. because it i mean. it's hard to imagine her without what we take away for granted but life has not always flourished here well to recognize that voice if you are an avid r.t. america viewer you should but picture host tom hartman is the man behind the documentary it's called the last hours and it takes a different look at global warming or at least one that is less popularized it's a ten minute film so it's short sweet and to the point definitely worth a watch tom hartman joined me just a short time ago to talk about his new project and we started off by speaking about the permian the mass extinction which is a period of time when over ninety percent of marine species and seventy percent of

terrestrial vertebrate died off the facts behind these events known as the great dying off play a major role in this film so i asked tom why we in the twenty first century should be worried about an event that happened over two hundred fifty million years ago lesson. well the mass extinction first of all is the worst of the five mass explain extinctions that the planet has experienced ninety five ninety six percent of all life on earth vanished all five extinctions involve the crust of the earth being punctured and and greenhouse gases principally carbon dioxide coming out and warming the planet they were all caused by global warming and if you were and the in the case of the permian it started because of this massive lava flow up in siberia in what's called the siberian traps that went on for thousands of years so if you were standing in you know somewhere far away from where the lava flow was you know on the other side the continent during the early years of the permian even the early thousand years of the permian looking around the atmosphere you might see

that the skies get a little redder at night and things like that but other than that you would not have any idea that an extinction had started it had passed a tipping point that there was no way to stop it and that within a certain period of time ninety six percent of all life would be gone. we use that knowledge as metaphor but example because we are within. possibly centuries possibly decades of tipping points that could lead to another mass extinction. is probably a closer example than the permian the permian you've seen the whole maximum but it's like we want to bring the word that you were the extinction word of the conversation sure and you certainly did that with some very startling graphs that actually appeared in that film now it's interesting because one of the things that i noticed was that you chose to bring climate scientists and geologists together to

talk about this talk about why you decided to bring these two disciplines together back in the one nine hundred sixty s. they were just beginning to figure out what caused mass extinctions is a huge debate and the assumption in fact back then was that probably all five of them had been the result of meteorite impacts it turns out only one was the k.t. extinction sixty five million years ago killed the dinosaurs they didn't really figure that out until the late one nine hundred eighty s. and they didn't really nail it down until the one nine hundred ninety s. they were still debating the permian mass extinction one cause that up until the early two thousand b.b.c. did a brilliant documentary in two thousand and two called the day the earth nearly died where they brought together a bunch of these geologists to lay out exactly why the permian happened and in that documentary they talk about how the giant. volcanic lava flow in siberia produced a six degree warming celsius of the earth and that was enough to warm the oceans six degrees which was enough to melt the hundreds of thousands of billions of tons

of methane methane clathrates methane hydrate that is frozen that is a lattice kind of slurry like a snow cone thing at the bottom of the oceans to melt that so it went into the atmosphere this methane is one hundred times more potent in carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas so this sudden eruption of methane into the atmosphere then doubled the rate of global warming and that killed off all the life on earth and so . you know what we're what we're pointed out right now is that that methane is down there again it's still there and you know we need to. be very careful that we don't warm this planet up enough that the methane starts coming up and it's already starting to come out from the siberian tiger right now and of all the different documentaries that i've watched that others have watched about global warming very few actually mention that methane that's on the bottom of the ocean why is this like one of the first times that we're actually hearing about this well it's this is sort of a follow on to your last question why do we talk about the permian and all this

because we just discovered this in two thousand and two is real recent science and and there's a huge. debate is the wrong word because there's no debate it's an inquiry nobody really knows how much carbon is out there the range the guestimated range for curb in in the form of methane in the in the frozen slurries of around the continental shelves is anywhere from three trillion tons on the low end which is enough to produce the permian mass extinction that was two trillion tons from three trillion tons in the low gas to around ten trillion tons on the high guess the amount this just in the arctic is pretty closely you know a good guestimate is probably two to two and a half trillion tons the car of experiment the carbon arctic reserve experiment the nasa is doing right now you can't visit their website because they're shut down because of the government shutdown but we had one of their scientists in the video and he was talking about how there's forty to fifty billion tons of carbon that is ready to be activated right now i mean this close enough to the surface that just

a little bit of warming could bring it out and then you get that positive feedback loop that spirals you into an uncontrollable global global warming which five times in the past history of the planet has produced an extinction where more than half of all life dies but at the same time i know that if you are sitting at home are going to ask the question if that's the station's happen like that's where the ocean warmed up before without humans contributing to it how are we contributing it to it these days that's really a question each time in the past five times the crust of the earth ripped open. carbon dioxide came out four times it was apparently from tectonic activity continents moving around you know massive volcanic eruptions as a consequence of that one time it was because a meteorite punched through down there can't punch through the surface of the of the crust what we have been doing for the last two hundred fifty years these very methodically drilling holes through the crust of the earth and we're not doing it in a big clumsy fashion like a meteorite where you hit some areas that have

a lot of carbon and some areas that don't have a lot of carbon we're doing a very specifically going just for those areas where we know that there's a lot of carbon and we're pulling that carbon out in the form of coal oil and gas and burning it and throwing the carbon dioxide into the air so we are and we have been over the course of the last century and a half replicating the mechanism by which the previous five extinctions happened which is the puncturing of the earth's crust the release of the scourge of that accident and quickly where can they find this documentary to watch last hours dot org thank you so much tom hartman host of the big picture and joining me with his new documentary thank you mary. more and more americans are taking a stand against bullying but what has been done to stop it and how much of our culture is made up of bullying but beyond the school yard for the answer so that the residents lori harvest.

october is national bullying prevention month throughout the month the national bullying prevention center in minnesota holds meetings and encourages communities nationwide to address bullying through creative relevance and interactive resources it is a sincere admirable organization but their vattel is just the fear and in nature. this year's national bullying prevention month has just gotten off the ground and already we've seen headlines about people bully other people a twelve year old girl was arrested in connecticut for relentlessly picking on a classmate at a private school in texas a father shamed his fourth grade son for bullying by making him stand on a street corner with a sign reading i am

a bully honk if you hate bullies those are good steps toward rolling the rock up that bully hill the store abercrombie and fitch is selling anti bully t. shirts that say abercrombie is things like bros reformed bully and this is where since the first loses control of his rock and it rolls right back down the hill because abercrombie you'll remember has the c.e.o. that said we go after the cool kids a lot of people don't belong in our clothes. that are the barrier. definition of bullying and that attitude is heard bases in america bullying is ingrained in our number one of the sest culture our media bullied by telling us to care about things like miley cyrus and football or we won't be accepted in society our politicians tell us it's ok to bully all the time the shutdown is

a bully move democrats want to sign this republican filibuster that bullying is congress's preferred method of inaction but the real evidence that america loves bullies is by being one itself that us is currently engaged in war with seventy four countries we invade everyone and boss them around that is the epitome of bully america is a bully we breed bullies from birth and then we put them on pedestals we are the bully capital of the world so while i truly admire the national bully prevention centers efforts this month i'm pretty doubtful they'll ever get that rock that actually cares about the little guy. the american hero tonight let's talk about that by following me on twitter at the residence.

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