markets why not i'm going to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with my stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines join in to conjure a report on our. telling welcome to so thin kill and sophie shevardnadze said in turbulent times in a turbulent region india has remained an oasis of stability but not without its own internal and public holds like power to corruption what the right way to react to syrian strife any dogs nuclear program will contain the taliban wants to trash the

forces will go from afghanistan to learn india's outlook on this and other matters i caught up with indian foreign minister someone pushed by his visit to moscow to. india the billion strong state of the land of huge riches and endless poverty in a rising economic giant the most populous democracy with notorious corruption how does india feel in a turbulent world how does it deal with terrorist cells on its northwest flank does he do joy its neighbors pakistan and china is india's voice heard by the international community. we talk to the country's foreign minister so man who is shit. pushit india's foreign minister it's great to have you on the show today sir thank you so this is ration on the in the middle east and particularly in syria is

on everybody's mind these days how close are or not russia and india's position on this conflict well i think. we are quite. pleased to be able to say that. is very supportive of what position russia has taken indeed we are very encouraged and we applaud. president putin's initiative that's been executed very i think faked really by foreign minister lavrov we have consistently said there is no military solution you can't reorder societies from outside it's important that we get everyone. to come to a dialogue table geneva two. everyone must to draw violence

and that violence is the solution that the people of syria must have a chance to choose their own destiny and we are very glad that this is something that we've got to related but it's being now given. physical and practical shape by the agreement between the u.s. . and russia so we support this and we would be very happy to be a g. were to if people feel that we can be of of help and assistance but at this point both sides have very powerful supporters in the world in your personal opinion who has the more rightful grounds assad or the rebels where i think you can . you get information from from week about who has. and who's. retreating and who's gaining ground or recovering

territory. the unfortunate thing of course is is that there is. still lack of clarity of who used the. chemical weapons there are some people who are convinced that the government used them because the government is known to have weapons and the capacity to use them is some people who are convinced and based on some evidence that they may well have been used by opposition forces who do have perhaps access to some form of chemical weapons even of improvised. and that it could well have been done to create a crisis so i think. there are different points of view but the reality remains that we are all completely opposed to the use of chemical weapons i think it's completely unacceptable immoral and we must bring them in control and destroy them and i think that. what has happened in

recent weeks is something that we really encourage and we hope that the support that the u.n. security council now has given by way of a resolution we'll see going to lose and that is satisfactory for everyone they might be some cynicism in some quarters but i'm rather hopeful that we can move to fact issue lucian and in the process also if we can get to geneva two i would imagine that that's even a greater improvement will india be taking any parting dysfunctioning syria's chemical arsenal what we have some experience because we dismantled in the past be joined we joined the convention and we're very glad that. the nuclear weapons convention is we now exceeded to by by syria i think that they're all really

already experts available and i would imagine that they thought it would be made to to bring in the experts who come from the region and who would not be seen as bodies and in one way or the other. if we get if we get invited and we get. an indication that india can be of help we would certainly consider it seriously you know you mentioned couple of times that it's a great thing that russia actually made this deal with america not to strike and to dismantle the chemical weapons there was this idea circulating in a social media that now putting should get a nobel peace prize what do you say to that well i'm not i mean i think that any contribution that the top leaders leaders of the world may make towards peace and i think this is this is a major step forward having said that i think it's important that that. it's best to get to

a point where situations become is reversible i mean that's just i think a principle of prudence that we should get situations to become irreversible so that you can actually seal a decision of this nature and don't need to half way suddenly feel something gone wrong i think there is been a demand i've read that in the newspaper that i've seen the actual social media and while i think this is a great achievement and if we arrive at a satisfactory solution from the point of view of all the parties who who want to see peace in the world this would be certainly welcome welcome suggestion and a welcome idea for the nobel peace prize to consider you don't was another huge surprise at the recent hearing general assembly it seems like america and iran are getting off and starting up their relationship from scratch and maybe their you know m l e aerating their stance towards each other just saying it's rouhani is it

human only or america was waiting for this chance well my impression and i as you know india has a good relationship with iran we have taken a principle position on on nonproliferation and we've always been consistent on nonproliferation and therefore we have to depart from what would otherwise have been important relationship of friendship with iran with convergence on many issues but we did say to them clearly that as far as the n.p.t. is concerned it was signatories that it was important as a matter of principle they remained. and they didn't offer n.p.t. and that whatever the nonproliferation treaty allows them. under i spend station to. continue with peaceful uses of nuclear energy is something that entirely entitled to but beyond. that beyond that we had to agree with the united

nations that. belief ration is a very serious issue and we need to draw a line but i was convinced in all my interaction with iran that iran was nonce determined to make nuclear weapons but it was important for them that their position and identity. be seen and shown a sense of dignity and that proper conversation in iran was possible and i still remain hopeful and i think that there was a sense that after the elections are down we would want to give this opportunity a real chance and i hope that it works i think the united states has made an important gesture there is a lot of cynicism in the united states about the possibility of a successful conclusion but the president has made an important gesture equally i think iran has responded in

a manner which is to be encouraged and to be welcomed let's just hope that the initial signs of what's been described as a thaw and outreach signals signals of positive movement forward can be taken to a logical conclusion it is important for the world that fully for ation is the nonproliferation of the tier two and it's important for the world and certainly our region not only we get greater comfort there will be peace but also that this will contribute to a great positive effort in other regions such as syria. but my question is do you believe that the consequences lined up in such a way iran playing an important role in syrian conflict america not really willing to go into another war with iran like it says i'm going to we're going to he. they have a nuclear weapon that it jumped at an opportunity to rate their relationships with

the country because the it was really the only way couldn't have gone any more sour with iran. well. if i if i if i read the small print carefully what the us has said. and he said that in syria said it about iran. serious about alternatives but i think be that me it's important that they have stopped short of what they call it on that if they have. looked in a positive way to solutions that through peaceful dialogue through. the alternative method of. outreach. this is something that's important for the world this is something that we have we have advocated repeatedly i think force.

and in the twentieth century and twenty first century we have seen examples of any change attempted to be brought about through force not succeeding and so it's important that we give peace a chance and. not by sight not react to taliban destined to be a part of political life in afghanistan. past their answers right after the break. millions around the globe struggle with hunger. what if someone

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welcome back to this edition of sophie and co now and the say leaks have revealed the magnitude of american spying on nations around the globe including its allies someone who should indian foreign minister told me what he thinks about the us spying on his country you know i do think that any country should spy on any country lead used to fall between friends and allies this is something that is. nothing to look forward to with of course some countries may have good reason to reacted very sharply we have taken note of this and we've also we have said to our people that we have. joint working group that looks issues the issues of cyber security and this is an area of cyber security i do understand that some of us. do look at information and do have systems of violence to ensure that our respective societies and our friends remain secure from the kind of attacks

that we have known the world to suffer. particularly of the terrorism. that we have seen in the world can come in different forms. and cyber security is a very important area that needs to be needs to take into account attacks therefore although that's a very legitimate exercise i think there has to be better coordination between friends we've seen countries and for that purpose we have a joint working group i don't believe that we should jump to any conclusions even if something of this nature is a little bit unsavory would we shouldn't jump to conclusions because most countries have security concerns and they do address them in different ways but if we can coordinate and be more transparent we each other there will be no reason for this kind of discomfort tell ghana's to not the u.s.

forces will withdraw any day now from the country what are the security risks for for india once the u.s. forces leave afghanistan i think. this is. perhaps a little bit of an exaggerated view that the united states is going to. is going to does that of understand that is not our information i think the united states is in discussion with of the on the stand for a bilateral security agreement. which would. mandate and allow for a significant number of u.s. troops to be retained in six or seven bases that are being prepared for them to to use your own two thousand and fourteen they would all have a very restricted operation mandate but they would still be there for purposes of training and perhaps to some kind of got into in ballast to the security forces of honest on itself so i think it's still

a matter which is being discussed between the. government and the u.s. government we have certainly had an impression that there is there is consensus on that's possible and perhaps view that been shared by the leadership here in russia that it's important that there shouldn't be. a sudden vacuum that the host of forces would like to fill to have things. things. move forward to a transition political military economic transition that place at a pace that will allow for for a clear clear stability to be ensured both by the political transition that takes place as well as the transition that the military is already undergoing but that's there ethically just to make sure do you fear that the

political joakim maybe fill it up with terrorists instead of us for our information up now is that that is not the case of course they have gone the government is reaching out to some sections of bali one we've not all been very comfortable with thought the working someone working with taliban would since that we had strongly advocated that the future of afghanistan must be gone driven gone and gone controlled. therefore we must respect the point of view of the extended they believe an outreach to some elements and taliban is going to be wholesome and useful for stability to the political system in future so you don't support the theory we don't talk to terrorists well if they talk to them. might not be what you would describe it is as a terrorist or perhaps their view is that once there is always the best way of

looking at. trinity to find some kind of inclusive solution to a conflict society i think very many ways in which you look at post conflict situations in any society and the best judges of that must be the people of that country rather than some of us outside no matter how strongly we feel about any issue it's finally i think the attitude and the opinion of the people of the country that counts and since we have maintained that principled position we would like to continue supporting that india has two billion dollars worth of investments in afghanistan do you feel safe in terms of that our investment is in the people and the future of ground to stand. on the amount of value of money that we spend our was is a partnership for for stability and for growth and development of honest on

rebuilding their parliament building where we hope a successful. parliamentary legislation will take place we are building a huge dam for them called the selma dam which we hope will give them electricity for the growth of their industry and the comfort of their citizens we have we are working on on electricity grids working on the roads and small projects in every city in every district we are looking at to building up the schools schooling for. structure and we will continue to do so beyond two thousand and fourteen as well because we do have confidence in the future and we believe that we owe it to them as friends that we must not think of makes the troops so we are there to stay and we will want to see. stabilize remain important important stepping stone for interconnectivity between central asia and south asia to be a successful sovereign state but when you see when you say that you know it's very

important to hear the afghan people so therefore the taliban being part of the afghan people what role do you see assigning them in the future afghanistan like being part of the government maybe or something else well we've been we've been told by a president that he did give a thought and perhaps he still is open to that idea. government should have some representatives of the. as you know. largely from the southern part of the on the stand and largely if not entirely. but of course what is important for of honest on is not just inclusion of of the taliban strengthening the push through an element of ramadan but also an integrated future in which all elements including the boss the northern alliance.

and the pursuance all live together it is important that we we see. grow into an integrated and unified society and that would be the ultimate success of. corruption is another topic that's widely discussed in india and also in other countries i mean the ones who went to a lot of violence during the arab spring. do you fear maybe that if there is another corruption a rape crisis. break up and. people will take to streets in masses like in those states well you know. we saw and we continue to see what happened in the streets in india. as a welcome development it is it is the normal maturing off society of democracy where people show greater sense of participation and concern about the pace of development about issues on which they have

a special concern and obviously in a society where not every element of reality is a welcome element some elements elements that we must remain out of aa system. such as we must encourage and applaud and celebrate but that's the very purpose of democracy that it means out on wholesome elements and it encourages and. holds someone attractive and this is what i believe we are going through in india institutions are growing developing we have opened up enormous opportunity to the indian citizen by giving them not only development rights such as the right to education and the right to food right to health or right to housing but also given them the opportunity and instruments like a right to information where they can exercise much greater control and pressure on

democratic governments to perform so democracy must not remain just once in five years if your cost to vote and then for five years you said they helplessly but that they must be participated mocker see now all of the beauty of democracy cannot be comforting all the time but we must look at the long objective which is that we become more sensitive responsive transparent and accountable system of governance. and therefore if there have been failures and they have been shortfalls and shortcomings we would be very happy to remove them by legislation by by educating of people by developing the right sort of attitudes and ultimately making the fault of the countable and finally bangladesh is going through a political turbulence with one of the m.p.'s so how could there chowdhury being sentenced hanging by death by hanging sorry what is in distance going to be on that

i can take a hard line. see as far is this issue is concerned like any other country. right they have their own laws they have a legal system that is like a legal system in a lot of countries it's into bend the judiciary is independent of the executive this is a very very sensitive issue in bangladesh because. the entire national movement was and was based on certain principles and aspirations which need closure to the sense of betrayal that the freedom fighters felt and therefore after all these years and several rounds of tragedy in bangladesh and attempted to find clothes through the judiciary and through open public trial something that they are attempting to do now. it's for their own people really to judge to accept or

to moderate it or modify it and i think it would be it really would not be fair on our part to comment on how they bring closure to a very very sad and very painful past we were part of it we did we did fight along with their freedom fighters for the freedom of. but beyond that it is really for the people the government elected parliament obama levy. but we just hope and pray that they get closer that this does not lead to further. divide in their society and that they can together find a solution that would bring them peace that what they need is for a minute. thanks for watching next.

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