hello and welcome to sort of been kill the share or not said in turbulent times in a turbulent region india has remained an oasis of stability but not without its own internal potholes like corruption what the right way to react to syria and strive founded on this nuclear program will contain the taliban wants international forces withdraw from afghanistan to learn india's outlook on these and other matters i caught up with the indian foreign minister someone on his visit to moscow. the billion strong state in the land of huge riches and endless poverty. a rising economic giant the most populous democracy with notorious corruption

how does india feel in a turbulent world how does it deal with terrorist cells on its northwest flank does he enjoy its neighbors pakistan and china. his voice heard by the international community. we talk to the country's foreign minister so many who shoot someone who ship india's foreign minister it's great to have you on the show today sir thank you so this is rationing on the in the middle east and particularly in syria is on everybody's mind these days how close are you are not russia and india's position on this conflict well i think. we are quite. pleased to be able to say that. very supportive of what position russia's state can indeed be a very encouraged and we applaud. president putin's initiative. that's been

executed very i think fake typically by foreign minister lavrov. we have consistently said there is no military solution you can't reorder societies from outside it's important that we get everyone. to come to a dialogue table geneva two. everyone wants to draw violence and that violence is no solution that the people of syria must have a chance to choose their own destiny and we are very glad that this is something to be of articulating but it's being now given. physical and practical shape by the agreement between the u.s. . and russia so we support this and we would be very happy to be

a geneva two if people feel that we can be of help and assistance but at this point both sides have very powerful supporters in the world in your personal opinion who has the more rightful grounds assad or the rebels well i think you can. you get information from from week to week about who has. and not behind in who's. retreating and who's gaining ground or recovering territory. the unfortunate thing of course is is that there is. still a lack of clarity of who used the. chemical weapons there are some people who are convinced that the government used them because the government is the one to have weapons and the capacity to use them there's some people who are convinced and based on some evidence that they may well have been used by opposition forces who

do have perhaps access to some form of chemical weapons even the improvised. and that it could well have been done to create a crisis so i think. there are different points of view but the reality remains that we're all completely opposed to the use of chemical weapons i think it's completely unacceptable immoral and that we must bring them in control and destroy them and i think that. what has happened in recent weeks is something that we really encourage and we hope that the support of the u.n. security council now has given by way of a resolution we'll see going to lose and that is satisfactory for everyone in my view some cynicism in some quarters but i'm rather hopeful that we can move

to factory solution and in the process also we can get to geneva two i would imagine that that's even a greater improvement will india be taking any part in to spanks links syria's chemical arsenal where we have some experience because we dismantled in the boss to be joined we join the convention and be very glad that the nuclear weapons convention is we now exceeded to by by syria i think that they're all really already experts available and i would imagine that an effort would be made to to bring in the experts who come from the region and who would not be seen. as bodies and in one way or the other. if we get if we get an invite and we get. an indication that india can be of help we would certainly consider it seriously you know you mentioned couple times that it's

a great thing that russia actually made this deal with america not to strike and to dismantle the chemical weapons there was this idea circulating in its. she made it now putting should get the nobel peace prize what do you say to that well why not i mean i think that any contribution that the top leaders leaders of the world make towards peace and i think this is this is a major step forward having said that i think it's important that that. it's best to get to a point where situations become is reversible i mean that's just i think a principle of prudence that we should get situations to become is reversible so that you can actually seal a decision of this nature and don't need to half way suddenly feel something gone wrong i think there is been a demand i read that in a newspaper that i've seen in the national social media and while i think this is

a great achievement and that we arrive satisfactory solution from the point of view of all the parties who who want to see peace in the world this would be certainly welcome welcome suggestion and a welcome idea for the nobel peace prize to consider you don't was another huge surprise at the recent hearing general assembly it seems like america and iran are getting off and starting up their relationship from scratch and maybe their you know m l e aerating their stance towards each other just saying it's rouhani said she meant only or america was waiting for this chance well my impression and i as you know india has a good relationship with iran we have taken a principled position on on nonproliferation and we've always been consistent on nonproliferation and therefore we have to depart from what would otherwise have been important relationship of friendship with iran with convergence on many issues

but we did say to them clearly that as far as the n.p.t. is concerned it was signatories that it was important as a matter of principle they remained. and they didn't offer n.p.t. and that whatever the nonproliferation treaty allows them. under i spend station to. continue with peaceful uses of nuclear energy is something entirely entitled to but beyond. that beyond that we had to agree with the united nations that. belief ration is a very serious issue and we need to draw a line but i was convinced in all my interaction with iran that iran was nonce determined to make nuclear weapons but it was important for them that their position and identity. be seen and shown

a sense of dignity and that proper conversation in iran was possible and i still remain hopeful and i think that there was a sense that after the elections it would want to give this opportunity a real chance and i hope that it works i think the united states has made an important gesture there is a lot of cynicism in the united states about the possibility of a successful conclusion but the president has made an important gesture equally i think iran has responded in a manner which is to be encouraged and to be welcomed let's just hope that the initial signs of what's been described as a thaw and outreach signals signals of positive movement forward can be taken to a logical conclusion it is important for the world that fully for asian. nonproliferation is that it too and it's important for the world and certainly our

region that not only we get greater comfort but there will be peace but also that this will contribute to a greater positive in other regions such as syria. but my question is do you believe that the consequences lined up in such a way iran playing an important role in syrian conflict america not really willing to go into another war with iran like it says i'm going to we're going to hear they have nuclear weapons that it jumped at an opportunity to your rate their relationships with the country because the it was really the only way couldn't have gone any more sour with iran. well. if i if i read the small print carefully what the us said. he said that in syria and if that about iran did this serious about alternatives but i

think be that as it means it's important that they have stopped short of what they call it on it is that they have. looked in a positive way to solutions that through peaceful dialogue through. the alternative method of all of outreach. this is something that's important for the world this is something that we have we have to repeatedly i think force. and in the twentieth century and twenty first century we have seen examples of any change attempted to be brought about through force not succeeding and so it's important that we give peace a chance and. find out how the world reacts to taliban destined to be a part of political life in afghanistan despite the past right after the break.

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interviews for intriguing stories are you. trying. to find out more visit our big don't know it's called. welcome back to this edition of sophie and co now i must say leaks have revealed the magnitude of american spying on nations around the globe including its allies someone who should indian foreign minister told me what he things about the us spying on his country you know i do think that any country should spy on any country lead used to fall between friends and allies this is something that is. nothing to look forward to with of course some countries may have good reason to reacted very sharply we have taken note of this and we've also we have said to our

people that we have. joint working group that looks issues at issues of cyber security and this is an area of cyber security i do understand that some of us. do look at information and do have systems of violence to ensure that our respective societies and our friends remain secure from the kind of attacks that we have known the world to suffer. particularly of the terrorism. that we have seen in the world can come in different forms. and cyber security is a very important area that needs to be needs to take into account attacks therefore although that's a very legitimate exercise i think there has to be better coordination between friends we've seen countries and for that purpose we have

a joint working group i don't believe that we should jump to any conclusions even if something of this nature is a little bit unsavory would we shouldn't jump to conclusions because most countries have security concerns and they do address them in different ways but if we can coordinate and be more transparent we each other there will be no reason for this kind of discomfort tell ghana's to not the u.s. forces will withdraw any day now from the country what are the security risks for for india once the u.s. forces leave afghanistan i think. there is. perhaps a little bit of an exaggerated view that united states is going to. is going to desert of understand that is not our information i think the united states is in discussion with of to understand for a bilateral security agreement. which would. mandate and allow for

a significant number of u.s. troops to review damed in six or seven bases that are being prepared for them to to use your own two thousand and fourteen they would do all this to have a very restricted operation mandate but they would still be there for purposes of training and perhaps to add some kind of. ballast to the security forces of honest on itself so i think it's still a matter which is being discussed between the. government and the u.s. government we have certainly had an impression that there is there is consensus when that's possible and perhaps a view that been shared by the leadership here in russia that it's important that there shouldn't be. a sudden vacuum that the host of forces would like to fill to have things. things.

move forward to a transition political military economic transition that place at a pace that will allow for for the clear clear stability to be ensured both by the political transition that takes place as well as the transition that the military is already undergoing but that's there ethically just to make sure do you fear that the political joakim maybe fill it up with terrorists instead of us for our information up now is that that is not the case of course they have gone the government is reaching out to some sections of we have not been very comfortable with the working someone working with taliban would since to we had strongly advocated that the future of afghanistan must be gone driven. and controlled. therefore we must respect the point of view of the extended

they believe an outreach to some elements and taliban is going to be wholesome and useful for stability to their political system in future so you don't support the theory we don't talk to terrorists well if they talk to them. might not be what you describe is as a terrorist or perhaps their view is that once there is always the best way of looking at. trinity to find some kind of inclusive solution to a conflict society i think very many ways in which you look at post conflict situations in any society and the best judges of that must be the people of that country rather than some of us outside no matter how strongly we feel about any issue it's finally i think the attitude and the opinion of the people of the country that counts and since we have maintained that principled position we would like to

continue supporting that india has two billion dollars worth of investments in afghanistan do you feel safe in terms of that our investment is in the people and the future of gonna stand. on the amount of value of money that we spend our was is a partnership for for stability and for growth and development of honest on rebuilding their bottom and building where we hope a successful. parliamentary legislation will take place we are building a huge dam for them called the selma dam which we hope will give them electricity for the growth of their industry and the comfort of their citizens we have we are working on on electricity grids working on the roads and small projects in every city in every district we are looking at building up their schools schooling for. structure and we will continue to do so beyond two thousand and fourteen as

well because we do have confidence in the future and we believe that we owe it to them as friends that we must not think of for makes it true so we're there to stay and we will want to see. stabilize remain important important stepping stone for interconnectivity between central asia and south asia to be a successful sovereign state but when you see when you say that you know it's very important to hear the afghan people so therefore the taliban being part of the afghan people what we'll see is signing them in the future afghanistan like being part of the government maybe or something else where we've been we've been told by president karzai that he did give a thought and perhaps he still is open to that idea. government should have some representatives of the. as you know.

largely from the southern part of understand and largely if not entirely pushed. but of course what is important for obama stan is not just inclusion of of the taliban strengthening the push through the element of ramadan but also an integrated future in which all elements including the boss the northern alliance. and the pursuance all live together it is important that we we see. grow into an integrated and unified society and that would be the ultimate success of. corruption is another topic that's widely discussed in india and also in other countries i mean the ones who went to a lot of violence during the arab spring. do you fear maybe that if there is another corruption a rape crisis. break up and. people will take to streets in masses like in those

states well you know. we saw and we continue to see what happened in the streets in india. as a welcome development it is it is the normal maturing off society of democracy where people show greater sense of participation and concern about the pace of development about issues on which they have a special concern and obviously in a society where not every element of reality is a welcome element some elements elements that we must remain out of aa system. such as we must encourage and applaud and celebrate but that's the very purpose of democracy that it means out on wholesome elements and it in the garbage is and. hold someone attractive and this is what i believe we are going through in india

institutions are growing developing we have opened up enormous opportunity to the good citizen by giving them not only development rights such as the right to education and the right to food right to health or right to housing but also given them the opportunity and instruments like a right to information where they can exercise much greater control and pressure on democratic governments to perform so democracy must not remain just once in five years that your cost to vote and then for five years you said they helplessly but that they must be participate to democracy now all of the beauty of democracy cannot be comforting all the dying but we must look at the long objective which is that we become more sensitive responsive transparent and accountable system of governance. and therefore if there have been failures and they have been shortfalls

and shortcomings we would be very happy to remove them by legislation by by educating of people by developing the right sort of attitudes and ultimately making defaulters accountable and finally bangladesh is going through a political turbulence with one of the m.p.'s so how could their chowdhury being sentenced hanging by death by hanging sorry what is india's stance going to be on that i take a hard line. see as far is this issue is concerned like any other country. right they have their own laws they have a legal system that is like a legal system in all our countries it's in the band judiciary is independent of the executive this is a very very sensitive issue in bangladesh because. the entire national movement was was based on certain principles and aspirations which need closure

to the sense of betrayal that the freedom fighters had felt and therefore after all these years and several rounds of tragedy in bangladesh and attempt to find flows through the judiciary and through open public trial something that they are attempting to do now. it's for their own people really to judge to accept or to moderate it or modify it and i think it would be it really would not be fair on our part to comment on how they bring closure to a very very sad and very painful past we were part of it we did we did fight along with the freedom fighters for the future. but beyond that it is really for the people the government elected parliament obama. people called but we just hope and pray that they get closer that this does not lead to further.

divide in their society and that they can together find a solution that would bring them lasting peace that wasn't as foreign minister. thanks for watching i'll see the next they should have said. it's no good saying. to. expect some of the toughest try to.

see. a little. bit of the. pain of the young girls. all for the future han are. between two and three hundred million guns united states so you can act like they're not here and keep kids away from them. deposits. you know i mean this teaches them a lot of for a responsibility and simply come to pay through the eyes of children if we can do it for our children for our future.

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