today's society. that. i think. it was like gold if you go did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution so i think that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy. that i know i'm tom on and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the trans national debate real discussion critical issues facing america are you ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture. welcome back to the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour the man who shot and paralyzed larry flynt is scheduled for execution the november twentieth you think larry would be excited but he's not i'll ask him why in just

a month also the health care about gov rollout has been nothing but a headache for the obama administration so what can the administration do to make sure the website is up and running properly i asked legendary programmer john mcafee later on in the show and conservatives like mitt romney like to talk about how great capitalists are they really understand capitalism more on that in tonight's to take. in the best of the rest of the news on monday morning the supreme court agreed to hear what has the potential to be one of the most important cases of its upcoming term the case all the florida revolves around the question of whether or not the state of florida could execute death row inmate freddie hall barely meets that state's requirements for execution florida law does not allow anyone with an i.q. of seventy or below to be executed paul's i.q.

is seventy one all the lawyers argue that i.q. . tests have a large margin of error and that the seventy i.q. line is too arbitrary to be a good measure of whether or not an inmate is actually mentally disabled if the supreme court accepts hall's argument it could make a lot it make it a lot harder for death penalty states to execute people who claim to have mental disabilities this has civil rights activists excited but many other people want to do away with the death penalty altogether one of these people larry flynt founder and publisher of hustler magazine joins us now from our los angeles studios larry welcome back. they're going to be here it's great to see you again you know it's been she's almost forty years since you and i had lunch on gay street in columbus ohio it's good to see you're still and you're still around and still speaking out you were shot by joseph paul franklin in one nine hundred seventy eight and have been paralyzed ever since he's scheduled to be executed on november twentieth for murder most people would want to take revenge but apparently you don't you want to

tell us about this. you are around thought about there's a great deal. you know i just assert some supposed to be about that just not vengeance and that's what you're getting with a bad death penalty but if i felt that there was a deterrent to the death penalty i could easily support it but there's nothing in history that. would support the fact that it is a deterrent you know in the eighteenth century and when that pickpocketing was a capital offense and i was executing the pickpockets on a saturday in a public square people would gather around all whitey's executions and while they were doing it people will be going to the audience why take an apology to the people watching the pay park is getting hand you know going out a great example to. have a serious true but

a learner none of our social scientists today can tell you when any certainly at all the late in the turn so why should the government be in the business of telling people hey it's cheaper to keep them in prison and to execute on because what the long legal appeals and cost involved in a special housing they have to have. it's much more expensive to keep somebody on death row there. than it would be on my thin breast. what are your thoughts about the fellow who shot you and what his motivations might have been and that era. a was allowed racist and here make any bones about that. modern man or a racially motivated hue ting's he was supposedly upset over michael my photo that

we. published and has no. regardless of the motivation was the fact that he shot me i. i would love to how many of our own was in one room with a power wire to pirates you know and i was conflict a little planning on him and him break that i may and i don't want to go and i just don't think that government should be in the business of killing people. it seems absolutely the u.n. and i i saw on how all these years you've been a consistent progressive and this is this now this is really where the mother rubber meets the road i mean this is the guy who shot you. on the on the topic of the death penalty blacks who kill whites are five times more likely to be executed than whites who kill blacks and you mention that the fellow who shot you was in

part motivated by his racism how can the death penalty not be racist in the. well. you know you don't see any wealthy white people of any wealthy white people's kids going to getting the death penalty you know it's fairly mannish because minorities make up a large proportion. of people who are actually executed and these are people who are in most cases are and agent who can't afford tourney's and their use in a car is appointed by the state most them are incompetent and that's why they wind up with their family and it's just a very fair system that does not work and i kind of understand and now some bad comes. they all want vengeance or not. but if they would really. give this kind of thought. and say you know

maybe he's got a point maybe there's a better way to do it and why should we. lump ours sell pam with china iran and the middle eastern countries in terms of people there insisting on the death penalty other civilized countries all european club. but only. most of the other countries don't have a very dear it's a handful of countries that actually have. their mostly. repressive country politically so it does sense for four united states to be protests baiting and you know you talked about how the death penalty doesn't have the deterrent fact that it's promoted as having or advertised as having and you know in terms of vengeance it's not even all that effective the

person vanishes they don't have to experience years and years in prison do you think that there's even you could even take a step beyond that and say that because we have the death penalty because we have state sanctioned murder in the united states that we are basically creating a more brutal society that we become more brutal as a consequence of our having the death penalty that there's a negative effect on everybody who lives in this country. absolutely i agree with that totally you know let me broach was warrants as. you know how do you feel about people when you know you're told that. young people are out to. pee or am a tape but they see. it's only reply by saying well in that case i would rather my kid see in a porno movie. ten commandments because i don't want them to kill christ when he comes back i mean when you do. tire blow by lines and violent behavior you're going

to follow it straight it's going to happen if you don't want to be less violent society and be that way you know i don't advocate it like the old saying out of the vietnam era you know the war comes home in this case the death penalty comes home larry flynt thank you very much great to see you thank you . it's the good the bad of the very very but really ugly the good jason pickel and there in black bear oklahoma has a state wide ban on gay marriage but that's not stopping this happy couple pick on black there were able to get around the bad by applying for a license at an indian reservation. t.v.

covered their story. when the supreme court struck down the defense of marriage act last june jason had an idea he called the shy in a rapper who tried to court house and ask a very simple question i was really expecting a big no i thought we're on our way to iowa but i called the tribe and they said yeah come on down that's twenty bucks twenty bucks for what no amount of money could buy in oklahoma a marriage license made illegal by the tribal code its requirements both people be of native american descent and live within the tribes jurisdiction no where does it specify gender because you know they say where there's a will there is a way the bad rush limbaugh's the conservative talk radio host has some crazy things about obamacare but what he said on tuesday on his radio program is really out there even by his to. c.g. i have a canadian company whose u.s. subsidiary built the field obamacare website was once contract to do to build

a federal gun registry for the canadian government or yeah gun registry that's the kind of people we need and while we're working on health care they can in a stealth way be establishing one of those here maybe this is just ridiculous health care dot gov has absolutely nothing to do with guns and rush is actually scared about the government knowing who's own firearms or about gun registries being aggregated probably he should stop supporting the n.r.a. because the n.r.a. has a mailing list is our nation's single biggest gun registry and the very very ugly governor paul le page in a recent speech in maine maine's republican governor polled a mitt romney their loss. number two in the book. is really. the people that. oath or these into the system will

want to say. this was. really. seriously what is it about conservatives in that number forty seven percent as usual gov all pages fudging the facts sixty five percent of minors are currently employed now the remaining thirty five percent the vast majority are retired or are children. percentage who are working no good it's. one percent of the unemployed governor le page just trying to stoke up hatred for the poor any way he can is very clearly. coming out if we want to save our free enterprise economic system we need to ditch capitalism i'll tell you why and i still eat it.

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screwed news americans are still struggling to sign up for obamacare but the obama administration has announced it's starting a tech surge to fix the glitchy health care dot gov exchange website president talked about the ongoing effort to clean up the site in a speech monday. we are doing everything we can possibly do to

get the websites working better faster sooner we've got people working overtime twenty four seven to boost capacity and address the problems meanwhile house republicans have their own plan they've asked john mcafee the founder of the mcafee anti-virus software empire to give them his expert input on how to work out health care dot gov kinks by the way here's a clip of mcafee giving his expert advice on how to an install his entire virus software. the procedure for removing mcafee anti-virus software from your computer is as follows first make sure you have a full backup oh yes my phone or your back you know. yeah. young. so is john mcafee the man who saved obamacare let's ask him john mcafee former computer programmer and founder of the magazine joins us now via skype john welcome to the program. thank you sir thanks for joining us so why should a guy who says he hates obamacare be the guy to fix it. but instead obamacare

another goal he said was the. program is unworkable as is the the basic software architecture as it is designed and implemented cannot possibly support the volume that they. use about obamacare as a as a benefit one way or the other and either way if i were the house committee on energy and commerce the invited me to come and talk to them i would go to publicize that they they were asking me i mean obviously the the. news made a great deal of it but we're going to go competence i think stands for and so it absolutely does and two that kind of a wonky question here but the in the original legislation what was in vision was that health care dot gov would essentially be a portal it would be like google you know you plug in your name your social security number it would confirm your citizenship it would confirm your income

using the i.r.s. and anastasia basis and then it would hand you and then you say what state you live in and it would send you right out to that state's web site so it's basically just a portal which is really a very simple programming issue then the supreme court said air everybody doesn't have to sign up for this and twenty six states said no thirty six states excuse me said no we're not going to do our own portals we're going to and so now the federal government has to talk their computers have to talk to the computers of thirty six different states that have thirty six different sets of standards they have thirty six different packages from different vendors i mean this we don't want should have been a simple portal has become a massive set of databases with different computers in different languages that don't talk to each other well i mean is it even possible to fix. well absolutely i mean let's look at systems which are many times more complex at google for example we spent a lot less money than a hundred million dollars on its software development is massively more complex and i've never been thrown off of google or never had google say you know i can service

you right now it's a little vellum in all the databases of the new york times if you ask a question that's on the new york times google just hands you off healthcare god dot gov is having to hold the databases of these twenty thirty six states now but we know that's not true actually problem well google doesn't know the databases but it certainly holds all the information if you google or if you ask the google to find every reference of the name john mcafee it will tell you where it is that is a database many times greater than the database that. it's known for comparison the problem is the architecture they chose to do c.g.i. which is implemented chose to use their indian programmers in india which by the way are far are great programmers but they're trained very basic skills to implement much of the front end processing this simply can't work they're using the front end to do most of the work which saves computer time when the government

computers but it creates a huge backlog on the internet shows like the system should they have believed us did it of arden should they have built out an agency within the federal government hire their own programmers and program their own system the way that the f.b.i. or the i.r.s. or the ins. well it wouldn't be ready by twenty twenty five if they'd done that i mean we all know what happens the program simply within the government no i think they should number one they should have a company a little more technically competent c.g.i. for example it was funded by the canadian government seven years ago because of performance for several reasons. play a very companies with the technical competence to do this it really it's not that complex it really is not. you know i'm not trying to belittle the efforts of c.g.i. it's simply the architecture was poorly designed to be implemented it simply has to be thrown away if you can't place it is yeah it's like taking foundation out from under your house when your house is still standing the other how did you have

a point made though the one question i've always wanted to ask you. did back in the day when there were all these anti-virus companies coming out and starting up and climbing and there was all this buzz about and least one of these companies is actually floating viruses and i'm not suggesting that you are but do you think any of your competitors have ever actually through viruses out just so that their anti-virus companies could get rolling. you know i think that such a ridiculous not from your service at the time it was ridiculous there were thousands of the hits writers i mean i would have to hire thousands of programmers to write viruses i didn't nature they were out there they're still out there today as a son i don't think any virus company was writing viruses they were they were barely keeping up with the viruses that were out there in terms of making anti-virus fixes and it's still happening john mcafee thanks a lot for being with us tonight you're welcome sir.

on tuesday night kentucky senator rand paul appeared on sean hannity's show over the fox so-called news network and during his interview senator paul called liberals for having no idea how capitalism works. capitalism works they have no idea why when you go to walmart products are cheap how they get from one point to the other and how they're distributed in such a cheap fashion and actually that's not capitalism it's business actually it's senator paul who apparently has no idea what capitalism is or how it works that's because like many americans and most american conservatives he confuses capitalism with free enterprise let me explain at its core the economic system we have here in the united states is based on two basic principles number one the right of any person or group of people to run an operate

a legal business and number two the right of any person or group of people to buy goods and services at least legal goods and services from the legal business of their choice the system is called the free enterprise system and this is to give people the broadest choice of goods and services possible rewarding the people who provide the best goods and services we often call them entrepreneurs if you have someone like rand paul he'd say somebody participating in this sort of a system is a capitalist but the cleanest definition of a capitalist is someone who uses their money their capital to make more money. some capitals do this by investing their capital in the stock market others do it by investing in other people's startup businesses those people are called venture capitalists these kind of capitalist do play a part in our society in our business culture sometimes they help small businesses sometimes even large businesses get off their feet but here's what you won't hear on fox business or c n b c capitalists aren't that productive and really aren't

actually all that necessary many are just like paris hilton they sit around on their butt by the pool all day long waiting for the dividend checks to come in they make money with money while contributing absolutely nothing to the rest of society and here's the thing free enterprise works just as well without capitalists without capitalism and even without venture capitalists for example worker own cooperatives are just as successful as any business backed by you know what venture capital coming out of wall street or any place else the mungana going cooperative in spain for example i've been there they employ more than ninety thousand people they include more than two hundred fifty companies and they generate a yearly revenue of around twenty five billion dollars no capitalists involved it's entirely owned by its workers and no the workers are not capitalists they're the workers and the owners of the company as long as the people running a business are committed and the customers like what the business sells it's going

to succeed again free enterprise works whether capitalist make money or not in fact too much capitalism can be dangerous every major economic crisis of the past two hundred years was caused by capitalists typically on wall street trying to use their money to make more money here in america we've forgotten this fact and we've forgotten the difference between capitalism and free enterprise wall street and its allies in the republican party have taken advantage of this to and the democratic party to go to gut the regulations that kept out of control capitalism in check between the new deal in the reagan revolution and they've done it. so all they've done all the while paying lip service to free enterprise to make it seem like deregulating the banks toure's somehow helps everyday people in the capitalism is somehow the same thing as democracy because what's good for the banks and the capitalists isn't necessarily good for the rest of us that's why america is the most unequal country in the developed world and poverty is an all time high higher

than any other developed country in the world. capitalists even have their own tax rate their own income tax rate as if they were some kind of divine beings the top capital gains tax rate is twenty percent whereas the topped earned income tax rate for working people is thirty nine percent to add insult to injury working people pay payroll taxes on top of that income tax and people who pay capital gains the capitalists they don't the way to fix this is pretty obvious to anyone who understands the difference between capitalism and free enterprise if we're going to have an economy that works for everyone we need to diminish the role of people who only want to make more money that is the capitalists and increase the role of everyday entrepreneurs and workers and consumers people who actually keep our economy running we can do this naturally if we stop giving capitalists their very own special tax code. right now thanks to low capital gains taxes predator

capitalists like mitt romney and spoiled heiresses like paris hilton pay less tax on their income than working americans do just because they make their money for money instead of actually working for a living. there shouldn't be a bigger incentive to make money with money then to make money with the power of your mind or your hands there should be an incentive to make more money invest in than running a bakery. if we stop rewarding capitalists for just being capital. that would go a long way toward even in the playing field if we combined that was say more small business administration loans and entrepreneurs would get an even bigger advantage there are a bunch of different ways to make our economy more equal but if we want to have a society that works for everyone not just the banks or class then we can start by doing one simple thing abolish the capital gains tax altogether and make the capitalists pay the same taxes as regular people it's all ordinary income let's

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