well fund they also have a five year plan here we have a sovereign debt fund is the highest debt ratio in the world to g.d.p. in the world and they also have nearly five day plan they only operate for this to get through this week as long as house price continues to rise this week as long as the markets stay up this week that's all they think ahead is five days as you point out china's got a huge sovereign wealth fund britain's got this huge sovereign debt problem and their plans are really minute by minute day by day as a debt holik they should be going to debtors anonymous and they should be getting on some kind of twelve step program or george osborne is powerless over this country's debt and he needs to seek a higher power well it's also proves that we do run on a ponzi system here because a ponzi scheme needs constantly to have new money coming in and here we always have a five day plan because that's that's every week you have to get a new ponzi is to come into the scheme whereas in china they can plan ahead for

five years because they're not running a ponzi scheme yet you know they do have high house prices like here but it's mostly paid in cash now they also have because of their five year plan they also have new deals being done with george osborne new nuclear reactors will transfer billions of pounds a year from british consumers to france and china so you know he hailed this big deal he did with china for the nuclear power plants here while state owned china general nuclear power joining the equally nationalized electricity de france e.d.f. in constructing a four hundred billion pound brace of reactors that hinckley point in somerset the chinese will have a minority share in the project but have made it clear and george osborne expects this that they should have a controlling interest in future schemes and for this max he's guaranteed price fixing so that they will make a profit so there is. foreign countries and their state owned companies their

national eyes companies who are buying into britain who is in the process of privatizing these assets they're making them available to foreigners so they've convinced britain's they should sell the edges sell the energy company so the rail system so the education system so everything so little the pay that debt will keep racking up the debt just keeps showing off these assets to who the welfare states other countries who will then used to give their citizens a nice plum juicy annual income based on this recurring revenue stream forked over by these hapless brits. well just to go into the details of what this price fixing is so the fix due to be announced next week is expected to guarantee to pay double the current electricity price for his output for some thirty five years effectively forcing consumerists to subsidise the chinese and french states by about one billion pounds

a year and of course they're also at the same time simultaneously reducing the subsidies for renewable energies which are all obviously domestic because that's when they're wave power energy like that and as the article in the telegraph points out a lot of it has come through propaganda where they're saying well renewable energy adds all these costs to our electricity bill well in fact it's added about thirty seven pounds to the average one thousand two hundred twenty five pound bill whereas here you're saying it's going to they're going to guarantee for the french state and the and the chinese state. a doubling of. it once again is commanding control the konami is not a free market competition they're not going to the low cost provider they're outsourcing it to a monopolist a communist state is going to come in here and take britain's income put in their pocket and they're going to jack prices higher and a lot of people are going to be without fuel without food privatized the same way they gave all the assets to a foreign government for their pension schemes and the u.k.

is essentially going to be a tenant in their own country tenant consumer in their own country meal feudal times here in britain well they are another minister from the u.k. in the past week was over in america this is michael gove he's the education minister michael gove governments must stop lying to children about life chances education secretary says inflated g.c.s.e. figures we use the past to tell pupils they could go to university or get skilled work so he told the schools here to stop lying to children that they're actually stupid they don't get they don't deserve the grades they're getting and they can't compete in the real world so however i think this is the same thing that we see with not only quantitative easing here they're inflating house prices in order to lie to the population that they're wealthy and because they're wealthy they could somehow compete with china who is building their sovereign wealth fund through real wealth generation and you see that because they don't have

a sovereign debt fund they have a sovereign wealth fund yet what is propaganda is that because in other words george osborne is engaging in the economic policies that are stripping britain's of their national treasures and their income in a lot of people say to themselves am i stupid and then michael gove's says yes you are the propaganda you will convince he agrees with you the education minister agreed to do that you're stupid so what do you think that oh i'm being ripped off by george osborne unless i'm stupid then the education minister says yes of yes you are stupid so it's a one two punch. for pure propaganda and it's a whole sell. offering of all these national assets to foreign governments in exchange for what can only be described as a b r i b e that spells bribe and another thing about this notion that we can compete is we can't and that's the proof is in the pudding of the n.s.a. spying on every corporation around the world because their corporations our corporations cannot apparently compete and this is having

a blowback we're seeing in this next headline here and i say revelations kill i.b.m. hardware sales in china the first shot was fired on monday terra data which sells analytics tools for big data one that quarterly revenues plunged twenty one percent in asia and one thousand percent in the middle east and africa wednesday evening it was i.b.m.'s turn to confess that its hardware sales in china had simply collapsed every word was colored by edward snowden's revelation about the n.s.a. is hand in glove collaboration with american tech companies from start ups to massive ons like i.b.m. well this is an interesting because it shows the commercial impact of the spying scandal ultimately the idea of spying is making people more secure is going to backfire because competitively america is crashing and won't have any money at all to buy even a slingshot much less a cruise missile because no foreign government will do business with them and china

of course has trillions of dollars in reserves and like warren buffet brought bought into i.b.m. at the high one seventy's he had a nice run bounce back to what he paid for he famously says things that he understands they weren't you understand corporate espionage well you know how china has said that they're preparing for a d.m.'s world i think that's what you also saw with george osborne over there in china just as they gong their state credit rating agency downgraded u.s. debt we also see that in the n.s.a. thing i think is that they've abandoned america because they're just looking to front line other corporations. what they're doing now the consequences here are the numbers on i.b.m. just to show you how catastrophic and sudden this collapse in sales was to china and china which accounts for five percent of i.b.m.'s total revenues sales dropped twenty two percent with hardware sales nearly half of i.b.m.'s business their falling off a cliff down forty percent now the c.e.o. of i.b.m.

had only recently stated that they expected sales to be double digit growth so he was unable on this conference call with investors even explain what had happened but of course he's not going to publicly state it's the n.s.a. spying on our competitors which have destroyed our market in china first of all i think the c.e.o. of i.b.m. clearly is a woman and this is setting up a situation where i.b.m. will need a bailout so we go from banks needing all kinds of bailout to corporations dating bailouts i.b.m. in the biggest will need oh we need a huge bailout for these companies to pay for by massive amounts of debt oh seventeen shilling twenty trillion forty seven trillion how about the monthly quantitative easing going from eighty five billion two hundred billion on a fifty billion worth of stuff it won't stop at all because a ponzi scheme let's get wider and wider and wider pyramid scheme means a base with the image of bigger and bigger and bigger crashes the american people are going to wake up one day is that oh my god we sold all of our asses british people wake up and say oh my god george of course so i go there is a cup of noodles left over for some chinese mergers and acquisition banker who's on

his way back to peking to spend my frickin money. not only correct pronunciation by the way beijing ok but that dates me because when i was growing up we could say peking but no no no no no no that's beijing both beijing that brings me back to this i.b.m. story because here you have. george osborne saying we need to compete with china who can't even spell i.b.m. . brings not worth the plum nickel on the brain exchange rights they say we got to go thanks. thank you max stay tuned for the second half a whole lot more. luk right on the scene. the first trip to lift a knife wielding picture. on

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welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to dan collins of the china money report dot com dan collins welcome back to the kaiser report thanks max free to be here all right dan collins according to an editorial in a local chinese paper china wants to quote the american eyes tell us about who wrote this in which publication and who the editorial speaks for sure the piece was written by a respected journalist here in china by the name of. he's ready for shin wa which is really the new china news agency really some similar to what reuters would be and with the piece he's right about would never really be spoken as an official mouth piece by the government ever really speaks for one point three billion

chinese and frankly for most of the world in the piece he talks about. ask two d. americanize a world which brought shock. in a lot of the mainstream media press on it he's calling for basically the article wall street reform now a new reserve world currency and highlights that the americans have now lost the moral high ground globally with all of the drone attacks the tortures and now the recent scandals with spying on world leaders. the first party talks about wall street reform i think most people in the world with would agree the united states and the u.k. we've done nothing to actually restructure the financial system since the first financial crisis we still have seven hundred trillion and rivet as out there waiting to crash the markets the next time and we continue to just respond to this

crisis by handing more and more money to banks and this is the type of activities he's calling against the second point on the currency she's. talking about the world needs a new reserve currency why have the chinese been set up as a world workers and the american set up as the world's consumers in the united states now has ninety million people of working age that are not in the workforce china on the other hand has the highest math and science scores in the world out of china they have a workforce now of seven hundred million people which is seven times the work force the united states says so he really questions why you know the situation is taken place why americans have exorbitant privilege on the currency and are not supposed to pay for anything at the import he talks about eventually how there needs to be a new world route world reserve currency backed by gold or something else. and yet this is the main point of the article which all right back on so let's talk about

the delicate relationship here the symbiotic relationship between china and the u.s. china of course has built their growth on exports to the u.s. and taking advantage of a cheap labor pool once they enter the world trade organization and the u.s. sends them dollars and they have over more than a trillion dollars in reserves have more than a close to four trillion in currency of various currencies in there are strategic reserve on are there are there national reserve fund but if they are two d. americanised the world presumably they want to sever this symbiotic relationship this means that their export growth would be affected a lot of the assumptions of the past few years would be completely reversed are they ready for the fallout and are they taking precautions for that fallout you mentioned gold a lot of people speculate that china is very aggressively buying gold in anticipation of the day when the world is the american eyes and the world no longer

uses the dollar as the world reserve currency your thoughts absolutely china knows they need reform and they're what they're working on this you know behind the scenes. china's foreign currency reserves as you mention it reach a record almost four trillion dollars it's a one hundred billion dollars in the third quarter alone however they have stopped buying u.s. treasuries since two thousand and eight two thousand and eight they had one point one five trillion and us dollar today they have about one point three trillion so a real modest rise considering china has added almost true two trillion dollars in currency reserves since two thousand and eight alone but only you know two hundred billion u.s. dollars well let me jump in here for a second because people talk about the world experiencing at the moment a currency war and a lot of people to understand i could have a currency war warren buffett has mentioned why. but the mass finance of the struction many people don't understand how a financial instrument can be

a weapon of mass financial destruction but here you have a big editorial in china which is essentially painting americans as lazy as unable to pay their debts and you know basically slamming america isn't this similar to what we see in a ground war aren't they kind of prepping the population to start hating americans i mean this is part of the propaganda war you know america would get the all kinds of boycotts and shut the economy off in iraq before they bombed iraq as part of the propaganda are our isn't china just starting to prep the population to blame america and to ready for this financial war is this part of the propaganda dan yeah i believe that you know china you know. they see where the world's going they're importing gold that frenetic pace you know all of four hundred trillion tons produced in china and he stays in china they bring in another eight hundred ton per

year they're going next you're going to know it's their gold reserve i think it's going to shock people how much gold they have what's your fake what's your best guess on that number. we i believe we've run some numbers roughly. five thousand ton to six thousand ton i believe will past united states holdings you know within five years are let me let me jump in again here the other talk about propaganda and price propaganda and financial where the c.e.o. of dagon rating agency has allied with egan jones and russia's rating agency russ rating in order to counteract what they consider the overly negative ratings of us back renegade seas of various bric debt including china debt so there we have for years the u.s. reading agencies always giving american debt aaa rating or double a rating and they always give the brickbats brazil russia india china lower ratings as part of this attempt to steer global cash flow toward the u.s. dollar now china saying wait a minute we can create our own rating agency and we're going to downgrade america

we're going to upgrade our own debt isn't this part of that financial propaganda war it will be successful down yeah absolutely these are these radio global radio rating agencies today are the enablers of this financial paper speculative economy that's been produced out of the us in new u.k. they realize it's actually absurd for the u.s. to be largest international credit rich. debtor to china but yet china has a lower rating than the united states is makes absolutely no sense they've called the western radii agencies as completely impartial and captured by the western governments and now they're going to work together to create a new company universal credit agency that is going to properly rate. governments globally as well as corporations all right dan let's let's really change gears for a second and talk about something that i think was shock a lot of people and that is that china is now the biggest by volume trader of bitcoin in the world by do they actually the one of the biggest internet companies

and that china is now accepting bitcoin and because. and we saw what happened in cyprus and cyprus started the balance but going to shot up to two forty we know that in venezuela and argentina there's huge bitcoin activity due to the instability those governments there but if china would want to own one point two billion people they decide that bitcoin is on a par with gold and silver which they should. and they say capture the bitcoin market how much of a game changer is this because big point unlike everything else america does cannot be hacked the n.s.a. can't hack it the f.b.i. can't hack it it's a good good money you can't hack it it's it is a game changer dan collins well i think absolutely i think china's looking for alternatives i believe obviously to this u.s. dollar reserve system chinese private savings an additional three to three point

seven trillion in foreign currency reserves chinese privacy savings have gone from one trillion to seven trillion in the last ten years it's just a portion of that goes into a bit coin you can see the prices you know rocket obviously not you know china's going to control praising everything gold bitcoin real commodities which it already controls so this is just good good absolutely be a game changer dan let's go through that number again you're saying that chinese savings rate of the people the chinese people have gone from one to seven trillion over what period of time in the last ten years private savings just in savings accounts in current accounts in chinese banks held by chinese citizens ten years as gone from one trillion to seven trillion dollars ok well that seems like they're they are very well positioned for a currency war and that they have what's the debt picture in china how they break that down as a country debt as a percentage e.d.p.s think they're roughly thirty percent debt to g.d.p. very good number we do have local local government debt issues but unlike the

united states or u.k. or western governments china is now tackling with real fundamental reform. and restructuring of the economy to head off any local government debt issues in the future whereas in the us we just continued to we're going to print more money we're going to give more money to banks and we're going to raise debt ceilings until somehow jobs magically appear are let me let me ask you this question let's contrast to economies here in the u.k. the economy is flagging george's broad or and brought in help to buy their reinflating the real estate bubble and now the prices are up ten percent in a month it's clearly a bubble it's going to popular cause huge problems whereas in china when they real estate markets start to get a bit frothy they increase the mortgage requirement they raise interest rates they're managing things in a much different way they put an emphasis on savings. is it a good contrast these two approaches and ultimately how can the west knock on the

american the u.k. hope to compete with china if their solution to stimulate growth is to increase debt and china's solution to stimulate growth is increase savings your thoughts well i mean in terms of the u.k. you can say you know i think i was born this week called the u.k.'s second rate power to china you know is it really harsh language but in reality you know there are chinese provinces with the next five to ten years that will have higher g.d.p. than the u.k. if you look at johnson province job province adjoining shanghai yon's the river delta region already has a g.d.p. of two point five trillion which is higher than the u.k. so they really are you know a bit player turned to the u.s. and u.k. absolutely they're trying to reinflate housing bubbles and they've been partially so you know successful so far it's all about them you know kicking the can down the road and nobody in the us or u.k. focused on production real investment savings and until they do that china is going to continue as well as all of the east asian asian generals continue the wells

going to continue to transfer over the jobs or continue to transfer over to asia and we're going to get you know u.s. and you care going to. larger and larger until nobody believes them anymore and the currencies take a major meter hammering i don't know if you've done the math on this but if you add up the personal savings account in the sovereign wealth fund of china is the economy trading at a discount to cash. yes absolutely i think you know. china has a lot of assets on their books a lot of a lot of money tied up now and so in wealth there's hundreds of billions of dollars that will continue to get put in just over a wealth funds as opposed to u.s. treasuries and they're trying to look for any way now to take those excess savings in excess capital now distribute it cross the world you see us now china now is investing in nuclear power plants in the u.k. these are power plants and u.k. will be one hundred percent owned by the chinese government you know in addition to

manchester airport which are just out of the u.k. and i was looking for china to come in and rebuild their infrastructure because like the u.s. and u.k. we see we can no longer even repair or build new infrastructure own countries all right dan collins got to leave it there thanks again for being on the kaiser report thanks max and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert i'd like to thank our guest dan collins of the china money report dot com if you want to get in touch tweet us a kaiser report into next time bio.

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