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in these three countries yes apparently eavesdropping on the phone calls of longtime allies just isn't enough to quell uncle peeping sam's voyeurism addiction according to a two thousand and six classified memo released by the guardian the n.s.a. has monitored the phone calls of thirty five world leaders and the best part is that the memo acknowledges that the spying has produced virtually no report of all intelligence so not only are we missing off our most trusted allies but we're doing it for no reason. i think we all know what's really going on here this gives the u.s. the upper hand on virtually all diplomatic issues what better way to win that chess game of global politics if you already know everyone's next move a bunch of the benefits this information could provide american industry and in fact n.s.a. carries out industrial espionage on a regular basis so if you're sick of being a citizen of a country that the global community is turning against then join all of us tomorrow in d.c. in front of union station at eleven thirty in the morning to tell the government to
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it turns out that not only the act of hakim can get you in the legal trouble but now just labeling yourself as a hacker can get you into hot water last week a u.s. district court ruled that if you simply call yourself a hacker you can apparently legally have all your equipment taken without warning in this particular case engineering laboratory battell energy alliance is doing x. employee or claim that he stole software coding from a company and the idaho court decided that the employees computer could be confiscated without notice simply because his website stated we like hacking things and don't want to stop yes that's right despite fourth amendment language that protects individuals from a reasonable search and seizure hackers are apparently not included so why does the notion of a hacker synonymous with evil intent and good the act of hacking me one of the only ways to protect online civil liberties and apologists a professor dr dave coleman is an expert on hacker culture and particularly the hacktivist group anonymous she joined rake in a separate earlier talk about the group and the changing face of activism in the
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online world he started by asking what types of people comprise anonymous. and that everything from you know lost students to wealthy engineers to those who are. very poor or to people who are immigrants in the countries that they live and she kind of white middle class american so so it's quite a diverse bunch and i think the pseudo anonymity of it where you have a stable nickname but you don't reveal who your who you are helps to create conditions for remarkable diversity yeah it is amazing that they represent so many different ideas and so many different points of view within society but you did mention something very interesting anonymous has become almost synonymous with the word hacker which you mention which still has a very negative connotation in mainstream culture how would you define that word hacker and why do you think so many people have such an adverse reaction when they hear the term i tend to. describe them as
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a class of technologists who again can be a system ministry or a programmer security researcher who tend to be committed to civil liberties like privacy and tree speech and who really have. their kind of craftsman who are also quite crafty tricky and cunning and they're kind of orientation towards technology and politics but obviously you know one element of hacking is a transgressor tradition where you seek forbidden knowledge and you enter into computer servers illegally and this historically and that's in the kind of underground hacker community has been done for the sake of of pleasure and he can forbid knowledge not to destroy the servers where you enter but because there is criminal activity pirelli criminal activity in which individuals hack into
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a server to steal our data on credit cards it has a kind of overwhelming negative image and doesn't take into account. both kind of subversive tradition underground hacking and this subversive tradition of hacking which is completely completely legal like open source software i want to ask you about those about the actual tactics but i want to i want to know something really interesting the anonymous is planning on november fifth which is the million mask march which obviously the group is made up of diverse viewpoints and opinions what type of message do you think anonymous is trying to send by stepping out of the realm of online and onto the streets with this movement. well there are roots in activism where actually based in the streets they started to protest the church of scientology on the street not one that kind of transformation into activism from peer pranking happened so this isn't the first time they organized street protests
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for operation parts in time to go as well but this is a very large scale kind of. protest that's being planned. i don't think their forte is always planning something well in advance and also an action that's not hinged to an actual event in the world so i'm not so sure it's going to be anything all that big at some level but what it does point to is the fact that many people taking the moniker june really care about issues of social and political justice right and so much of the focus has been on civil liberties and on social issues in fact earlier this year you wrote an article where you said that it's hackers and coders and geeks that are the new guardians of civil liberties why do you why do you believe this to be the case. yeah i absolutely do i really stand by that step. you know what's so interesting about hackers and gates is again. they enter into the political arena in very very diverse ways and so they
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are doing everything from. founding. political parties like the pirate party in europe they're building. software tools like tor which help you anonymize yourself on the net and they engage in dissent like with anonymous the point is that they're getting involved in politics to all these different factors and most often their concerns and questions of free speech they want to fight censorship and they want to fight for privacy and they're doing it again through different localities very different ones so it's a very kind of culturally and politically rich domain of politics right i mean they're they're involved in so much and they're calling attention to stories that we would otherwise maybe not even hear about we recently heard about them involved in the steubenville case in the mary bill case now. why do you think that we see anonymous attack institutions that deal with unjust prison sentences and fail to
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you know prosecute rapists what does that say about society that we have to rely on this group to fill the void of a broken justice system. well i think you just you know put your finger on it is that there is or there are many different elements to the justice system which are broken it's not entirely broken but there's there's enough broken parts where people aren't comfortable using that system alone and so what anonymous often does in their actions is expose the hypocrisy and the corruption inherent to these systems and then shed light on the issues so that it kickstarts the justice system again so that it might work you know in a particular case it might work wow but what it does in a grander sense is show the fact that there is kind of systemic problems when it comes to the justice system but when we see going into places like pay pal
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or the vatican or hacking the state department do you see this as legitimate activism or should these type of actions be prosecuted. so i do see it as legitimate activism and i tend to see it as civil disobedience in most cases and because it's civil disobedience i do believe that the actors involved should be willing to face legal consequences which might include some fines and and even some limited jail times but unfortunately the system is so warped currently where there's no space in the united states especially for digital direct action and civil disobedience so the punishment is so cruel and so excessive. that it hasn't allowed a place for this so yes i believe there should be a consequence but not the types of consequences that are currently being doled out against scenes activists right and so many people especially in the civil liberties
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community that worry that with the with the term anonymous being so loosely defined that congress could use the group maybe as a selling point to go after net neutrality something that would be damaging and of course for her civil liberties do you think that this could be the case. so i've written a little bit about this because on the one hand yes and this can be used as a kind of scary goblin to justify. retrenchments of our civil liberties on the other hand. the retrenchments and the kind of. curtailments of our civil liberties are already here and they're so extensive that if anonymous disappeared or never appeared it would be no different it would be no difference and i don't think that they will successfully use them as an icon to make changes if they want to make those changes they will make those changes and i think it's more important to have a kind of little factory that creates activists which is precisely what happens
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with anonymous verses that fear that their negative image will be used to justify unfavorable laws which are already are on the books i wanted to ask you your opinion as an anthropologist what does it say about anonymous what does it say about the anonymous movement about you know what does it indicate about the cultural evolution of of activism and protests in this country well there's two facets that i think are really interesting and they're not quite connected but. fast you know it's fascinating that anonymous is on the one hand so particular it really arises out of geek and internet communities and sensibilities which aren't universal right on the other hand the the mask in the face has become a global face a symbolic token for dissent around the world and i'm not surprised that it's a mask that kind of allows for this because what it allows is for a kind of extreme circulation and different meanings can attach to that. and i
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think it's very important that anonymous really shuns leaders and spokespeople because. there's none of those it could allow the symbol to circulate and so that's been really fascinating to watch and then again i think you know what they have really done in a more particular sense is put on the table this issue of civil disobedience in the digital round it has long resisted as a tactic on line with groups like the electronic disturbance here but there is. as a populism and an openness to anonymous which has really burst this question out in the open and i think we really need to listen to them and ask well do we really want a world where we can't have any civil disobedience on line when we spend so much of our time online and that was dr gabriella coleman wolfe chair in scientific and technological literacy of mcgill university thank you again for taking the time you're welcome. after the break he's already been convicted of genocide and of war
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crimes but a former guatemalan dictator may get a chance at amnesty they can put out. for. great hopes for freedom and democracy. substitute it like great disenchantment. what was expected to be a blessing to the country. turned out to be its curse. the story of a disappointment. there's a media leader so we lead that maybe. i will see motion security play your part of
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the physical. issues that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from. politic. they're doing whatever they want in syria these days and even the obama administration can do nothing to rein the saudis in and i think the sad answer is that the united states doesn't have the power that it once had it doesn't have the leverage that it wants tries to work through allies through international organizations and occasionally on a child and deal with the court of public opinion. the best america can but there are there is a lot in the toolbox right now they're not many tools that. speak
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the language. programs in documentaries in arabic it's all here on all t.v. reporting from the will talks about six of the c.o.r.p. interviews intriguing story to tell you. in trying. to find out more visit are a big old dog called. earlier this year an unprecedented trial by the conviction of former guatemalan dictator a frightening rios montt the eighty seven year old was sentenced to eight years in prison over his role in the genocide of over seventeen hundred indigenous watermelons during the bloodiest period of the country's thirty six year civil war and what seemed like an unbelievable win for the justice system was in fact too good to be true you see just this week guatemala's constitutional court issued
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a ruling allowing for the possibility of amnesty for a moment a new trial is now scheduled for april two thousand and fourteen so to discuss this disturbing new development and dig a little deeper into the story i'm joined by jamila brown. global strategist with you international thank you so much for coming back on thank you for having me you know when i heard this i was just kind of heartbroken because here you have this unprecedented trial he's convicted sentenced to eighty years and now we hear he might be granted amnesty i mean how do we go from that to this you know i mean the sad thing is that as much as it's heartbreaking it's not really a surprise with myself having worked with indigenous communities of the genocide cases in another region. there were many regions not just the she'll but they believe that it was the best case to move forward with the shield because they had the most evidence in that case i was fortunate enough to meet with one of the community members that i worked with very closely with the president of the witnesses association and while they were heartbroken the one thing they're saying
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is that you cannot take away that conviction this is the first time any head of state in any country has been convicted for crimes of genocide in his own country one of the things that we're also seeing is that the current president has a very strong connection to rios montt president. was a field commander in the shield during that time one of the things that happened after the verdicts went down was that activists were calling for not only small and but others that were implicated during that time of the genocide to be called to justice so there was very likely that the president himself the current president of guatemala could have been held responsible so you're seeing that members of government that were involved at the time members of our military that were involved at the time and also the business community is well you know one of the things that we don't talk about kind of the dirty secret is how involved corporations were in the genocide that happened to indigenous peoples in guatemala
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starting from jabal arbenz and the threat he posed to the united fruit company it seems that corporations are involved a lot behind the scenes of a new kind of on censor the history of these countries you know you mention the indigenous community they are. pushing forward we have this verdict and i just can't imagine what they're feeling after decades of struggle after seeing this man walk free in the finally of this indictment and say wait we need to put it on hold to talk about what his crimes were for people who might not know the story is completely devastating in this she'll specifically they used a policy called scorched earth which many people will know from other areas around the world about seventy to ninety percent of the community was burned during that time in addition to rampant massacres rape the murder of children and other communities one thing that you would see is called the destruction of the seed where they would kill not only the men in the community but all of the boys as well so that they wouldn't be able to continue to have errors that were indigenous. and
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you know you went to guatemala you worked closely with this indigenous activists what was your experience like here in this firsthand from you know just to be a very tiny part of this movement is really just shaped my entire activism in the way that i view the world the beauty of this movement is that it is a grassroots indigenous movement this really did come from the people this was more than thirteen years in the making to bring him to trial and the amount of resilience they have is just something that continues to blow me away one of the questions that they would ask indigenous witnesses testified was how does your heart feel and many of them would say that my heart is glad because i'm finally getting the chance to tell my story and even amongst all of the heartbreak that's the one thing that they're holding onto you know they say that you cannot take it away and no matter what happens april two thousand and fourteen no matter what happened in may when the decision was reversed you cannot take that away at some
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ballers as hell i mean these people's voices were heard it's on record we know the crimes that were done and i also saw that a call was actually put the u.s. government on trial as well for the for this real conviction and why what do you know. it states it was horribly complicit in the genocide in guatemala ronald reagan called real smart a man of great personal integrity they had a very close relationship ronald reagan as we all know was very had a very hard line against marxist rebels which people were denounced as being part of the reasoning why they justified the genocide that occurred in the one nine hundred eighty s. so you have you have record of the united states really covertly giving weapons helicopters to guatemala during that time period which actually is a legal and u.s. law with the leahy law and other laws that are on the books but we've definitely
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been involved in the beginning again i would reference the one nine hundred fifty four assassination of president arbenz was democratically elected and that assassination was carried out by the cia and we also know about it was trained at the school of america i mean we have the school for genocidal dictators it seems like to keep out of the school do you think that reagan support and his training of the as a way of kind of help facilitate these crimes against humanity and help cover them up yeah absolutely i mean that's the unfortunate legacy of this school of the americas as you said it's called the school of the dictators and that's one reason not just in guatemala but all throughout latin america people that have received training at this school went on to become brutal dictators in their own countries and. sadly just one example and you know i can't help but think after this was kind of delayed and put on hold you know considering the outcome of this trial so far what chance do you think ever holding politicians accountable in that are white
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affluent politicians from america britain for their war crimes well i think it's extremely difficult the one thing that i actually do feel encouraged about because of this guatemala case is that hopefully countries in the global south will be able to start their own movements as opposed to the. pending on the enter american court for this hemisphere as opposed to depending on the i.c.c. at the hague in the united nations i think that that's really what we're looking forward to and terms of holding western officials accountable it is a completely different that we're almost out of time but is there a website that people can go to to help facilitate support or orders provide support for these people absolutely the organization that i worked with as a human rights a company or is called network in solidarity with the people of water mala or in the squad that's and i as g u a dot org thank you so much we'll put the website on the description of this video thank you for for talking on this issue providing some insider mill you should brown global strategist hugh global for shit.
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remember when leaving work actually meant leaving work you know going home in peace without a cell phone alert going off every five minutes now work never really leaves you considering how your phone is also your computer don't get me wrong having the world's knowledge in your pocket is a revolutionary tool but if we've learned anything from the n.s.a. revelations it's that integrating ourselves with the digital world has a serious downside we already know that all of our personal data is catalogued and rearranged in a digital versions of ourselves and everything that's collected is up for grabs but with the corporate collusion with government you can bet that accessing this information isn't just about power it's about economic advantage. see personalized advertising isn't just tied to our behavior online it's also connected to
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everything we do in the real world you may not give it much thought plastic card in your pocket is really a holy grail of information for corporate advertising believe it or not when you swipe your credit card at a gas station you're that much more likely to be targeted online by a car company or if you buy a diet pill after you visit donald one night see everything is connected now whether it's in the digital world or the real world certainly convenient for advertisers to look at people as mindless corporate trends this cultural shift is causing us to lose sight of one another as human beings at the heart of this disconnect is our ever growing dependence on technology which in turn fuels the exploitation of individuality. so they've mastered how to take advantage of our uniqueness and make us feel that by purchasing these products we are expressing our bridge analogy and all the while still being treated as consumer sheep this
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technologic dependence and manipulative advertising is why we're still online at the dinner table in transit to work and even asleep with our smartphones at an arm's length justice. vive in today's workforce being glued to your phone is par for the course but be a diligent worker bee doesn't guarantee you job security case in point is that during this global recession productivity has actually increased we've officially become a world of workaholics and we're physically suffering as a result countless studies have confirmed the correlation between workaholism and sleep disorders heart disease nervous system problems and mental illness among many others and we're not just hazard to our jobs but to a cycle of consumption an act that society equates to happiness we're told that the more we have the happier will be but in reality the more we buy the more we feel we need we've got to work for that dollar we got to work work work well guess what i
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have never heard anyone's last word to me to wish i had worked at war and unless you're a pharaoh i doubt any of those material possessions we buried with you in your room book anyone who's traveled the world sees that those who have little more than the basic staples can often be happier than those with the greatest amount of wealth. now i'm not suggesting that all of you go out and quit your job after all most of us need to work to survive and hard work often leads to great rewards i'm also not trying to preach to them as guilty as the next person of constantly checking twitter being wrapped up in the twenty four hour news cycle and spending way way too much time on the internet but i also understand the still lama and i know hard as to achieve conscious simplicity living true to the montreaux that one thousand less actually means having more remember experiences are more valuable than
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commodities so i implore you this we can connect with another human being and go out into nature because at the end of the day. that's what's real and that's what matters. two years after the force ouster of khadafi by nato forces libya stands at the abyss the lack of a strong central government weak rule of law and endless violence in a country awash with weapons has resulted in libya facing a failed state status add to this the presence of islamic militants can things get any worse in libya. that we've talked about a lot of allies part time additional months on the show before that that ben bernanke m.r. carney are trying to monetise their flatulence that's the that's the economic
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growth in the u.k. they talk about g.d.p. annualizing at three percent growth but debts annualizing at nine percent growth and higher if you put the debts that are off the balance sheet like on the bank of england back into the mix the debts compound at twenty percent a year so three percent a year in g.d.p. growth even though it doesn't even discount for the actual inflation number the fact is you can count me in negative territory they're living on carty farts they're living on corn a fart there that's their entire economic so-called growth. will come to the true. show thirty fold can just bend over fifteen billion euros the full truth that says should be one hundred fifty million degrees with one token mark to sell from st petersburg to france the trouble is such as the song. known to you all day we've got the future covered.
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one of the wonderful. pleasure to have you with us here today. some of the sixteen percent imports came from illegal fishing. the european union is ironically taking fish from some of the poorest nations on earth so this is a very serious and very urgent problem that needs immediate international action.
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i think that. thousands of protesters converge on the u.s. congress demanding new laws to end must spying by the national security agency. another day and yet more damaging revelations for the case communications headquarters is looking at sort of bill the lengths that he went to to keep the mass surveillance program secret. we're still hoping you get to witness a moment of real history but this is the first time the really big claim has ever been made of the north pole and all t.v. crew follows that twenty four team torch relay into the poland night we'll be bringing you spectacular images from.
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