we're not psyched to look back to camp at guantanamo where patients are worse that . our strike never turned world's attention to the point that some gulag of our time. today larry king now two worlds collide harry potter meets dexter pitts daniel radcliffe and michael c. hall in their title kill your darlings is the idea that you know you have to make very hard decisions and sometimes come people out of your life in order to grow as a person i really do love letters have been set plays actually you know it's like salacious headlines get people in saving the movie that will end up in the movie plus you have an obsessive compulsive relationship with furniture placement i don't know what would you please about well right now i'm thinking about just repositioning the couch in the chairs in the living room i mean it's pointless it's a sound i said yes all right i'll do it all do it that's all ahead on larry king now.

welcome to larry king now a great pleasure to welcome daniel radcliffe and michael c. hall they are the costars of kill your darlings and intense film which we will talk about you know daniel of course from the harry potter series and michael was everybody's favorite serial thread with this such a thing as having my favorite serial killer personally i like some of sam but he was. dexter for the labor way he plays the poet allen ginsberg michael is david cameron of professor whose obsession with ginsberg from lucian car led to his fateful undoing you an american that's right yeah so you haven't switched to you american i did yeah i was sort of a so subtle in new jersey accent for this i just let go it was easy to do for you i mean i'm lucky in. since i've got a relatively good for x.

and then it just becomes an exercise in sort of doing it enough that it becomes natural and i turn up when i'm on so i tend to just sort of remain you know all the time all the time so when you break for coffee he still talks in meriton yeah yeah yeah it's not always i mean i knew full well that daniel was not american but i was struck when i heard an actual accent and i was so accustomed to speaking as i watched him in how to succeed in business the great children she sang and danced you were tremendous and i was american as well as ready to do broadway again i would love to i don't know when but i would yeah and it was fun to do that question i think was and like this i just did a show in london which we sort of for a moment was talking about taking the boat with the unfortunate didn't didn't happen because it was not fast because broadway is booming but it was great but we didn't get to go unfortunately didn't yeah i did pretty much exclusively theater before i started the t.v. stuff at six feet under in new york on and off broadway and regionally six feet

under was in first series yeah that was my first thing of any significance on screen how did this kind of this part come to you i told you i know elegance robot i interviewed alan does where i think three or four times he was a wonderful interview so yeah i was posed by from the very always yeah i'm talking very verbal and they love to talk he loved being asked questions you know he was posed i mean you his stories about people who sort of late in his life you know would be hosting you know book festivals over the road so something in that and they just write to him and he would respond and often come in like give his time you know he was supposed to be a incredibly generous guy very easily you had to how did the tell me you study you might not of this film come about i met with john krokidas the director who also co-wrote the script probably about two years before the movie actually happened and told him how much i loved the script i was aware of the story of david cameron's murder was really excited that it was being told and so well told. you know by the

time he called me again i'd pretty much forgotten about it and it was you know like fun and money in your pocket then forgot was there you know here the movie was actually happening after it sort of floated out of my mind so i was i was thrilled that it was actually happening when i interviewed him i never knew this story you know said that's one of the things i think that was so exciting to me when i first read it was as michael said that the idea that i mean michael was aware of the story i absolutely was and you know the idea that i was this little known story involving three such celebrated sega's. story that was such an impact from moment in the lives and never been told was was a very exciting prospect you play that to me just as though you know the way i play david camm or guy who was. been in lucian carr's life lucian cars a contemporary of bergen burroughs and carroll the writer to he was and i think he aspired to be a writer but he was someone who galvanized these other guys around sort of common

sense ability. of this new vision but. the camera was a surrogate father of sorts mentor to lucian carr was his student is he originally was his scoutmaster and yeah and followed him from institution to institution or school the school i should say obsessed with obsessed with him it was a co-created relationship and codependent relationship i think the way. i think there was i don't i don't know that they actually acted on whatever intimacy or affection they experienced for one another i mean by the time you meet them in the film lucian is ready to distance himself from camera on camera can he wept it was ginsburg's role in this and allen ginsberg went to columbia university in one nine hundred forty four and met lucian car and he you know at least in was one of these people that just had to say that. karisma and alan much like david just felt

totally in love with him and and lucian they had a relationship they had something i mean you know alan alan in the movie you know we show them kissing and. you know alan was definitely you know in love with lucian when we first met him and he was an incredibly important part of his life and then he was a person introduced ginsberg to bars and kerouac and so in a way i was very much a founding member of the of the generational though his he's sort of worked hard since since the events in this movie took place and since murdering david to kind of raise his part of the history and who plays lucius played by dane de haan he's fantastic young actor how do you describe this i don't know i think it's a coming of age story it's a love story in a sense they say the best stories are stories one recorded love in a way there are these parallel stories of unrequited love both for ginsburg's character and cameras character their love for lucian cars and recorded and it is

a thriller of sorts i mean i think part of what's exciting about the movie is it's populated by these future icons but it could stand up on its own even if these characters were nothing was younger and you know how did you get the part of the project and why i did when i was doing it was in new york on broadway the director of the film john created came to see that time he was you know kind of making lists for the movie of actors and then he saw the play and then send me the script and i loved it and we met and and that was it really that it was quite a long process i mean it's about five almost five years since that now and. dishing for it and go to it and then go back to potts or we were able to finish it the movie didn't happen and then they would replace recast and that happened again and then when they were refinancing it another time john came back to me and said would you still but the thought of them like it is and off is this. this is doesn't so

much of a birth time to move as well that's the thing it's a i feel like it is important to say it can and you know when you talk about this film it can sound very dark and very intense but there is you know we're also making a film about young guys having the time with our lives you know as much as there was this darkness to all these guys they were having an incredibly fun excited time and you can't make a movie about the beats of this age without making it fun as well so if this was what year it was nine hundred forty three nine hundred forty four it was pretty beat what it was the thing is that it's the formation of it's them it's very it's you know it's the origins movie did as it was well known out of their evolution it says freshman year yeah and he's favored it through through lucy and through this event of the mother really is what sort of this this combination of factors in his life is really what fight him up to start writing in the way that he in the way that he did you know the murder was a real creative catalyst for all of them i've heard it referred to as the beat big band. you get killed i do the first one of the first images of the film is

my character dead and then of course the flash flashbacks are those scenes difficult. yeah yeah i mean i think i think the the more difficult the more fun in a way is the more of the more challenging the more seemingly impossible more fun it is to take the leap especially when something like this we have twenty four days to do it so there really really was a lot of time to think you know. trust our instincts and trust john groupie to sort through this leader had a real enthusiasm and tenacity that i think kept us all focused dissolve and get involved in the solving of the crime he's involved in the in the aftermath of it because basically in this era you know it's not a political film but one point the film does make about the justice system in the states at the time was that if you. lucian basically tried to portray david as a homo sexual predator himself as being heterosexual and that at that point in

history your charge would be downgraded from to manslaughter and he said you know vastly less a sentence and he would have done otherwise and he tried to get alan to write his deposition to the d.a. for him if he didn't do. well dog yeah lazy the fact that his is not ready to reveal because we can we can reveal that he died because in the first of the movie i don't as far as like you know the title. ok. ok killing your dog kill your darlings and the idea of killing your darlings in a sort of literary sense is the idea that roy says should take out of that work any of that sort of you know a sentimental habits and things that crutches that they lean on in their work because that's the only way to achieve real growth as as a writer and in a metaphorical sense and of it sort of is the idea that you know you have to make very hard decisions and sometimes cup people out of your life in order to grow as a person it's going to be and as i said a lot of fun as well. it was

a huge time for making it you guys are both roles that time to stamp you. possibly and dexter was it hard to ditch that was eight years or eight to overcome typecasting. i don't know you know it's it goes with the territory if you're going to make an open ended commitment to a character in play for a long time that you may well be associated with that character but i'm glad to be associated with a character that has as much dimension grew and changed as much as dexter did and. at least in the case of john krokidas he imagined me doing something being on the receiving end of murder so i turned the tables on myself. but yeah i think it's inevitable i'll be associated with the part but i'm proud of that to a degree how many potters did you do eight. it was it is a part of everywhere just ahead as in business of the others i. thought of the one

agent wonder why why split tom if you started filming the first film i was eleven and we finished i was twenty one so ten years back and you know michael says it's very proud of that still and i you know i i think we did something really kind of you know unique and remarkable and to make it an eight film series of them to get better and better until the last one which i do think is the best you know is that doesn't happen all the time so was it hard to break away from it when you sunny so many disparate things yeah i mean i think the truth is if you put yourself out there and and and you know show a willingness to take do challenging material then people are going to give you opportunities to do it and it depending on you know that it is up to you to make the best of those or not but i mean so far i've been lucky in the fact as people have given me you know john came in so many that was and thought me for this and and you know every week every job brings an opportunity to learn something hopefully and keep getting better or is it like to work with him it was fantastic i

mean daniel was really our leader on the set and. along with being. very talented actor he has a. professionalism and focus and an enthusiasm and a sort of indiscriminate kindness that i think sets a great time. thanks there is a section in this with. francis it does that's still true you would think that's kind of like you know i know you would really think it's kind of you know people be used. to get is yeah i mean i don't think i'm kidding it's i don't think yeah i mean i think it's only shocking in the context of you know my career and what the fact that my read my letters having said yeah exactly and i have that and i think you know that. well you know i think that does you know it's an easy headline you know that's the reality ways and easy thing for people to write about and it's and it's you know.

it's kind of a pragmatist about this so even if life's latest headlines get people and save a movie that would end up in the movie we're going to find out how each of these wonderful i suppose speech famous roles they starred in could you dollars it will be right back. it was a. very hard to take i. want to get on here a lot better that would make their number. one.

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then walk there. we're back with daniel radcliffe michael c. hall a costar in kill your darlings that opens our top sixteen's in new york and l.a. need them stops working daniel has three films coming out a t.v. mini series in a play in london my goal is more than a decade in the claim t.v. series you've got another film coming there's one i did called cold in july that directed by a young director named jim cole coming out sometime in the new year and i'm going to do a play in new york starting for ourselves and you are what's it about it's called the realistic joneses about two couples who have sort of remarkably serendipitous things in common and it's with toni collette marisa tomei and tracy letts oh great they're worldly yeah what are you doing next on that star

a new version of frankenstein with myself and james mcavoy i'm playing i'm playing ego the hunchback assistant. with the hunt yet my fellowmen one hundred i kept walking. so i go. you know i didn't know and that's. ok and not the starring role that one of but it's not say it's a new take on it where the so we saw things how the dr james mcavoy he's one of the it's kind it's very cool to me because he's one of the actors i just read it up to him when i was young and younger and so on very excited about it and. how did you approach dexter a serial killer who is like. well i mean i think the aspiration of the show initially was to to invite an audience to identify with him maybe even like this serial killer all bets would be off if he didn't have his code and weren't killing reprehensible people you know if he were just indiscriminately killing old ladies i

don't know what he would like but i you know knew he had to have some inherent affability in terms of the way that he presented himself to the world and there was a voiceover element that had a sort of arrive sense of humor and work to maybe. implicate the audience if you're watching it and you're hearing what he has to say or you know the secret that no one else in this world is so you know we knew that we needed to to find a tone that would give the audience a chance to identify with him and i think audiences you know been proven to relish the opportunity to identify with characters that maybe in the past they weren't given a chance to side with did you have any idea it would be the hit it was you know hope that we'd find a cult audience if you will i didn't and his fate of the cult would be quite as large as it ended up being but i was pleasantly surprised now your father got to do that you know that. we were in

a bathrobe and you know no he delivered the news to unrelated by he didn't like getting drunk remember that he was doing. that that's what i do most of my work. tried out for me. tell me it was it was definitely sort of defining moment in my life how do you program i mean to be honest it's it was it was hard to say but i had an approach when i started i just i was kind of just going on instincts and and having a member you know it was a really around the third film by started sort of thinking how the acting a lot more and and you know it was a real learning one i definitely feel i was on right till the end of the series what do you make of here we're going to make another reply i think what you decide to move yes i do you know i'm now in the in the position of kind of caring about it with the rest of everybody you know i know i don't have an inside track anymore i have to work a role is writing it actually is i know that much but i don't really know what it's about or anything but i'm i will look forward to it with with everyone i will

someone please like a grant for although i don't know i think it's like i think i've led to believe i think it says in the it's like it's a prequel it's set in the in the past so i don't think i would have been born but yeah maybe his some grandparent. but i don't i don't i want i don't really they would tell you a little bit i released a consultant or even said give me a hand i'm sure i do i don't think i could stay claimed i'm intrigued to see what they do with it and what you know what how how that was going to be expanded i think jo rowling probably fails you know very confident in going back to having stepped away and had success with in other ventures to come back to in you know expand the world that she knows people love so much i think it's very exciting and we have some social media questions for you slip there and say on twitter wants to know how hard was it to remember an american accent was shooting kill your darlings and you're going to get and slipped into british no i mean i think once i once you get on set in the morning and sort of start talking in the accident for the first

like sort of twenty minutes half hour days or take time to warm up and then once you're into it's quite easy to stay at it and then coming out it's actually harder really yes sometimes get back into english i have this with transatlantic. and for that i sound like yes my gold is on facebook as michael hall did you research the real day with the did you create him from your own this. and probably a combination of both i mean there certainly was less to go on with david cameron than there was for daniel and other people who were playing these people about whom we know a great deal but there were enough things in ginsburg's journals real time accounts of the first time he met david cameron things like that to hang my hat on and make informed decisions as i did fill in the blanks that were there to. tina to rezone facebook wants to know how previous does you both played influence your performance in kill your darlings i mean i think. i learn from every every every job you

do you take something off you know the stage then out which is a state of constant learning in the moment but i'm not sure that stops but you know it's i feel like i take something from every job which i use on the next cymbidium yeah i think so i don't know if there are specific traits of previous characters but i think every time you work your fashioning new tools that you put in your toolbox and maybe some of those old tools were appropriate to use this time around even white on facebook if you could work with one actor or actress who is the. he go on i can't think of go on an old days around as a trial. robert of all. he's still around good guy. tom sparrow on instagram i saw you done with dexter for good there was talk of a spin off that's something that i can't even begin to. put some more distance between myself and dexter before i even try to wrap my mind around that possibility jason keeling on twitter do you guys were hers scenes or do you read

the script and then do is defend we did actually have on this job we had four days russell which is more than you get a lot of jobs so yeah that was really useful and the same guy ask you that you did it in person nation of me oh on the kevin pollak show only because i was. it was a command performance that he does with all of his you know and do you have to impersonate me right did you try i gave it a shot or did you what does sound like. well like i don't mind it was oh it was good as i'm hearing from you now it was it was it was pretty bad. idea simon it was you say you say. you tell some random and perhaps salacious sort of or off color story and then you go to the phones so i said something about something i used to do with my dog i'll probably not say here

and then i was like boise. ok. we have a. response in this game if you only knew you know to first girl you kissed yes it was your name had he had he there had to be in britain yeah. yeah i was i was always. fourteen we had one likes her. in the countryside unlike. romantic rural england. i know what happened. on might now. only a first kiss angela peacock and your talk yeah yeah oh yeah i was a kid wonder you know isn't worth counting and there's nothing we don't talk about honestly for i may well be. in the dark yeah yeah i was a randy little five year old we were in you know well i did it while we were out

buying me a racer's oh i love the you know when you clean the air and i stay there job yeah clean the blackboard. proudest creative achievement. probably either this film or learning to dance how does it say you wait and then i go. you know i think i think just for sure the volume of consistent work dexter. rolled it did you ever turn down a road you were granted. yet if you muslim no never had to do that no in fact i but you know sometimes the things you say no to are as important as the things you say yes to and i don't regret any of those most people worry about money what keeps you up at night i'm worried about. you know just general anxiety about how i thought my job as opposed to doing my job well go and you know whining about that stuff i go yeah i think yeah nagging questions surrounding work

or just obsessive compulsive preoccupations with pleasure. i mean let's get into that ok you have an obsessive compulsive relationship with furniture placement yeah i mean the kind of things you know like you were waking up like why am i thinking about this you know what why i did what would you please about that i mean it's just you know you do moving on well right now i'm thinking about just repositioning we couch in the chairs in the living room so that they're facing each other with a fireplace here as opposed to i mean it's pointless it does sound i said yeah well do i don't do it is there a name for that. probably i don't i mean there's something new. maybe if that's about fantasy football in the n.f.l. on the huge oh your logic keeps me up and i love your teams why was i support the giants don't say anything when you're rooting for the giants do you do so in an

american accent that's only i don't because i found it amuses all my friends much more if i shall in english yet if i shall american for all things in a machine without running from doing plays only what i did i was in new york one of the boomer and. brought us the answer just like gave me a chance i made it as a way you say do you embrace it took me down to the base and said this is wrong he's the only just found in the building he's miserable thank you both very much daniel radcliffe michael c. hall i'm larry king you can follow me on twitter at kings things i'll see you next . time as a new alert animation scripts scare me a little bit. there is breaking news tonight and we are continuing to follow

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. of the the. polo all i'm abby martin and this is breaking up the set you're get the feeling that u.s. policy is still running on a cold war mentality or maybe just appalled more grudge case in point tuesday's un general assembly vote to finally bring an end of the fifty year old an economic embargo against cuba this is the twenty second year in a row the u.n. voted to condemn this blockade but this time the vote was especially a story in an unprecedented roll call the u.n. g.a. voted one hundred eighty eight to only two and

a favor of ending the decades long embargo that has largely isolated the small caribbean island and guess who were the only two navy vote seen yep none other than the good old us of a are inseparable partner in all things undiplomatic israel and even though the overwhelming majority has already been tallied twenty one times before every time it does the u.s. government knocks it down faster than you can say crippling economic sanctions hope following the vote cuba's foreign minister spoke out about the embargo to the general semele by same quote seventy six percent of cubans have lived under its devastating effects since the day they were born it provokes hardships. and as a mass flagrant and systematic violation of human rights the foreign minister also reminded the un that the economic damages have amounted to well over one trillion dollars and that was unstated under president kennedy and at this point the world is wondering what the hell is the point in continuing the blockade.