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out of western countries the term citizen becoming offensive because it makes resident foreigners legal or illegal feel like second class people will compared actual citizens legally you kind of are if you're offended that you are not treated as a citizen of seattle why not assimilate become a citizen of the old states join the team but that's just my opinion. hello and welcome to the use of shevardnadze and as
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a spying on millions of fencing clothing those of thirty five world leaders has been called an acceptable by some of america's closest allies that's as even more leaks are expected to surface released by edward snowden before he wanted to hiding in russia what drives the governments in their actions can't societies do without them today we're talking to an anarchist. as government struggle to make decisions and find solutions leaks revealed they don't often practice what they preach representatives of the people do they really care for the common good do they really value improving the life of the public or would the people be better off without the power hungry. our guest today is jeff monson american mixed martial arts fighter and self-proclaimed anarchist chef it's great having a city today thanks for so so let's start with the latest and it's
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a leaks and about the fact that everyone found out us was spying on everybody including their closest allies like germany france thirty five countries altogether what do you think they were looking for there. i think you know it's a power. i think as a general citizen united states. you know informed i realize that the united states is is spying on everyone why won't they because it's you know a power struggle they want to it's about economics and you know where germany's going to put their money we're you know companies are going here we're companies are going there so it's not i don't think it's about you know military how we have a cold war thinking like they're going to bomb us or we're going to bomb them or where they put in their submarines i think it's more of economics that are involved in the spying so what happened right after the leak is that the countries that were spied on came on it's that it's outrageous but that's about it do you think they should do something more than just say it's outrageous about them being spied on
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you know i think they're spying as well i think it's you know this is my opinion i'm not a conspiracy theorist anything like that i just think these countries are constantly you know vying for power in certain regions and you know they might call the united states their friend and economically they are friends and trading partners but you know if you're looking for an advantage going to take advantage you can get when you're in the world of capitalism and trying to you know support your companies so you think all sides are being kind of sly yeah of course you know i grew up in america i think it's a great country but. do you believe that america is exceptional do you believe in american exceptionalism in the sense that it can do whatever it wants whenever it wants to whomever it wants well that's a very good question i. i believe before you know american if you said you're talking about american exceptionalism people in america would say no no no
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we're not like this who are for freedom or democracy and you know we have to be involved in certain wars or have a military presence in certain areas because we're looking out for the world as a whole not just america. but now that's changed the climate change and let's say you're you know especially in the republican side of the sphere if you don't say you're to accept a rip in american exceptionalism it's seen as a down thing and they're actually criticizing obama for you know for not having an american search for a while he was actually president obama at that setting speech and spoke about the american exceptionalism that's what i got for election yeah well they're criticizing him for not being american enough and looking out for american interests enough and thinking globally and you know especially republicans not such as bash on them because this is kind of a universal thing in the united states now is that we have this you know gone back to the eight hundred service manifest destiny idea but now it's not just north america since the world you know we have not only to have the police the world but
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you know i just saw i think we have a military base of some sort of base in one hundred thirty five out of the hundred and ninety you when registered countries i mean that's crazy and most of these countries of course are friends of the second obviously so you know why why why do we need so many bases worldwide more empire and to say we're not is is not true so you're saying republicans are more keen on emphasizing american exceptionalism and actually blame obama for not being american enough or you think it's not american enough. i believe you know to be an american by these days and you have i think it's just you have the pride you know not so much our nationalistic pride but like a worldwide pride like we you know we're the united states not just a world power we are the world power and we have what we says goes and you know religiously economically morally. we believe that we're correct and that the
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world should bide by kind of the rules in the standards that we say but do you believe it will actually mean. model someone who polices some sort or everyone should do their own thing well my mom used to say like you know if you say something you gotta walk if you walk the walk you gotta tell your talk the talk you gotta walk the walk. everything that we say we don't do you know we have illegal base in guantanamo we have you know do you want you when said don't invade iraq invaded iraq anyway so we we do what we want to do like so that's who american exceptionalism comes into full play as i were going to do the things that make the united states better or make our corporations in a better situation in the world economy and that's just the way it is and if that happens to agree with other countries it's just frosting on the cake but if it doesn't it's not going to stop us from doing it now i understand that you actually
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advocate health care as a ford about health care as a basic need for every human being of course obamacare is about that affordable health care you know you like the whole concept of the obamacare as it's got some good points about points where it was originally intended has been torn down and shredded and then cut and pasted and what we have now is nothing in what you know i envision for you no health care for everybody but it's better than nothing oh yeah it's better than nothing but unfortunately what you have is people businesses are actually cutting. you know the hours of employees or changing benefits or firing people totally so they don't have to pay for health care so it's actually hurting just as many people as it's helping and another thing is. physically be required to have health insurance under the administration of the government telling you if you don't have insurance we're going to find you would
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see illegal not to have insurance that's your take away some civil liberties as well so if i want to talk a little bit about your fuse in the global sense because i know you're a self-proclaimed setting beginning but your tap of fabric a sort of justice for all and you don't like governments you believe that people should govern themselves but i could provide providing the justice. you know people who people can provide their own people and groups and communes and. togetherness you know if you want to be part of society there's no requirement to part of society other than participating and if you want to participate then you need to work and you need to abide by the rules that we as a whole agree on hey we can't go murdering each other we can't go taking from each other but look at crimes decimate over ninety percent of crimes are economically related anyway so imagine a society where you take out over ninety percent of the crime sort of the. crimes
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that i can live with you know have and you know make some alterations or changes in order to live with other people knowing that most of the crime is being taken away and we're living together you know what you call economic crises crimes. in prehistoric times would be like. crimes for survival you know fight for survival they don't have money then but they were fighting for food or to survive so the human nature hasn't changed you can take the economic crisis that way but for someone to actually be self-governed it would take a lot of discipline and responsibility and do you really believe that human beings are ready for that i mean do you actually have an example a historic example where humans were able to govern themselves without a leader i mean the midwest native americans you know they had cheese but there was no written law there was no like government there was no it was they had these
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rules that they decided among some selves but there were really unsaid immigrant rules and to live in that society you for all these rules and the. shame you would feel by disrespecting one of the rules or someone else in society was enough to govern the own people right now you talked about prehistoric times the most important social ensued. i have is like working together because if you you know try to take me for yourself or work hard so say hey i'm going to take this and i'm going to go do my own thing forget about you guys you're going to die in a day or two because you needed other people in the group to watch out for other animals or other people or you know help you and you could do it on your own so that cohesiveness that socialism so to speak i think is a stronger instinct than the individual you know greed that. socially said leader all i'm saying is that it does seem
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a bit utopian taking our times of technology and internet and the amount of opportunities and options to human beings are being offered that they would actually go back like the indians and self govern themselves without actually because each individual wants something more or something different so it would be so much more harder for people to so govern themselves see that's what i think we were so you know we go back to that quote that we're talking about earlier is. you know show these people that we need that they need us you know there was a quote from v. for vendetta you know when the leader was everyone's kind of going crazy and he said show you know so they you know about all the news all this crisis or all this stuff that you need government otherwise the world's going to go crazy but we do we do all the work we build the roads we teach our children we are we work in the hospitals we do all the physical labor they just sit there and say do this to this
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as they collect the money or work with the banks charge an essential keep it us and that. we do govern ourselves in a sense we do all the work and we just are led to believe that we need them in order to survive but really if they disappear. but you have to change the economic climate of course a poor in. a capitalistic world where you know we're fighting for each other for the basics of. life of course there's going to be going to need you know one look you know we're saying you need to do this you need to do this but if you take away capitalism and there's going to be more freedom for people right now i don't think freedom is working forty fifty sixty hours a week trying to make ends meet try to pay off the trying to pay a loan like survivor i think freedom is because you're working for someone else i think your freedom is choosing what you want to do for your life work in this job having free time with your kids having free time for yourself i'm lucky in what i
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do i get more free time and i get to fight and i get to spend time with my family but i'm still working for somebody and i know the sooner they can profit off me and and i feel you know i just feel for those people that are really in about situation time for sure one way to. takes a challenge. make it abundantly clear.
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welcome back to the show we're here with jeff monson i'm a fighter and self-proclaimed to have you back right so you're saying here like what you're saying that governments are actually governed by corporations. but that's a conspiracy theory itself no i really don't believe so because the banks really only united states the federal reserve which is a misnomer because there's nothing to do with federal institution of private banks owned by the lead individuals who loan money to the united states. for all the federal spending that we do and we have to pay that back their citizens have to pay all that money back with interest so if you took all the american money and put it in a big warehouse it would only account for about four or five percent of all the american money that exists because if they loan a billion dollars to the government then that has to be paid back with interest but where does the interest come from it doesn't exist it's just
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a theory. wasn't it always like that it's not like something actually happen overnight i mean it was only a couple of centuries ago obviously governments were financed by rich people that would make two hundred thirteen. after a lot of bank foreclosures are bank closures and a lot of economic crisis united states. the federal reserve was to was was formed and the united states has been a. prison ever sense and will always be and there's no way if we paid back everything we owe with all the money all our resources that we have we would still be ninety five ninety percent six percent owing what we still right now in debt and it was always be that way unless we change the system you know talking about that the fear of what will happen to the us debt actually holds countries they're on the world hostage because they're so have really dependent on us currency on us dollar
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do you think there could be some sort of opposition to that to the debt ceiling mean race all the time well of course what happens united states with you know on wall street or with our corporations affects the world economy. worldwide you know something happens in united states but it's really controlled by the corporations and banks and what can other countries do about that can they resist the debt ceiling because they're like us the united states is an empire we have some trade or some tariffs to dump on them or some sort of you are your corporations are going into their countries and or vice versa you know exchange you know we have increased change of you know economic ideals and nothing you know until the system is changed because you're always going to be conflicts you know people talk about the rise and fall of you know. the money the currency is going or you know there can work in a recession now now rather recession it's just it's something that everything will
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be under control we just got to ride the wave it will never the wave will never be smooth under capitalism and people do to realize this you know about the change of system and you know i guess in a way of beating the corporations but you are mentally fatter you out of all people you know what it takes to defeat someone so you need to be equally strong so if corporations our own governments are owned by corporations obviously the governments can't defeat the corporations so who can who could stand up to corporations or the government is in with the corporations so they definitely don't want to overcome it who can actually stand up and it would take an enormous amount of education and the internet as actually been fantastic in this way look at some of the situations had like in libya and egypt that was really made possible by the internet and people being on their cell phones actually and even wall street and so
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people are becoming more knowledgeable and they're realizing that they connect with other people so a businessman from manhattan is realizing you know what i have something in common with this farmer from kansas and they can connect to and see which others you know their social contacts. but it would take an enormous amount of education as i say and and the people the people could shut this down in one day if there was a general strike would general strike the corporations and banks would be at the mercy of the people the ninety nine point nine percent of people who do all the labor that ever happen that would take that sort of enormous amount effort and do it without happen in my lifetime. you know i can only hope but that's why i like you know we're talking now and so are educated talking about education and internet access i had a guest recently and so he actually said that american nation is the best interchange nation but the least educated the least informed nevertheless why is
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that is it because of the media are just people can't be bothered and they're too lazy to know more why i think they may work for this government a very good point but they go hand in hand when you're inner tain by watching you know. you don't go to this is well i'm watching a football game on t.v. that i'm learning about my own situation you know why my not can pay the rent this month a hard time in the store we're fighting for some injustice you know we have all these t.v. reality shows and what the car dash ins are doing you know crazy this crazy that and we're entertained but you keep says they like that not only does the media like that the government likes that the banks like that because it's hard to protest would you don't realize what's going on and when you're kind of happy just watching your show it in the night relaxing a little read out your quote you know quote from twitter we tolerate and often empower those who exploit subjugate coerce oppress and slave us yet look upon those
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asking for a handout in distain have a thought about human nature why is that that we're that way i think again that's the media that's the culture we have when we see someone on the side of the street asking for you know a dollar or something in the. you know to get by a to get a you know piece of bread or something like that i would like me to think well they haven't they're not working or they're not going to an american culture in particular because i don't think every country around. i think this is american culture specifically. that we were talking about you know the american dream if you work hard enough for america you can be the president you can be a superstar you can own a company you just have to work hard enough if you don't. then you're on the side of street for bread and people to look at you and turn away but if you work hard enough you can have these things but that that's not true you know they did a research study on industrialized countries and united states was number sixteen
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in social mobility so the american dream that if you just fight for what you want and work hard enough that you can achieve it that's not true if you grow up in the inner city and don't have the resources and can't get the education so when you grow up you're not prepared for the world you're at a disadvantage so you don't no matter hard you work if you don't have these tools and help growing up you're never going to be able to choose which you want now here because of your profession your travel travel around the world have you noticed how america's image has changed throughout maybe two or three years in the past in light of syria in light of libya in light of n.s.a. leaks have you noticed a shift in this image you know i think we had under bush we were kind of hurt for the certainly we had a really bad view in the world and now it's i think that view softened a little bit and people i think generally think united states is kind of bloated
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and lazy and and trying to get what we want and then our chairman you know couple the world syria and at the same leaks they really happened under obama yeah but i think people. like obama. more they think we're spying on the world but we're not as even though it's not true as motorists and cut throat is as we once were under bush you know invading this country i think we're. about bush said we're going to give a due because of some right thing to do and god you know help us do the right thing and we're going to do it with you like it or not and under obama it's more we're going to spy on some drones here make some accidental killing sorry about that you could actually see the reaction around bush because i mean a lot of people dislike him but when he said we have to invade he had no doubt on his face it was like ok it was two days now when president obama is like we have to
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bomb syria he did have doubts on his face soon enough like you have britain who backs out first and then everyone else is like no i think we shouldn't do it so you could just read the doubt on his face as he was saying that america should bomb syria i actually think obama has less support among leaders as you're kind of referring to. the the who are you know allies. that i think obama is less support than bush did because of those reasons but you know support among right the mass of the people i think. obama doesn't have any more support or less support among them i think is different there does seem maybe some weaknesses in our world kind of a dictatorship or would want to call it but in the leadership that he's showing they're seeing them now i know that you love russia a lot and i wonder why because you know russia as great as it is and i live in this country has its own bunch of things with whole scores of issues but you love it so
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much but i always had a fascination with russia and the people and you know this is this is where the first social modern social revolution in the world took place in one nine hundred seventeen when people even marx didn't predict it was going to be in russia you thought it was. russia how could it happen there it's going to be in europe you know industrial countries so it was a it was a great event and there's a got a lot of great anarchists. that have come from russia so you love russia because of the great anarchists. but people here have treated me very well and you know when you have grown men coming off the street and how you know and right like you can feel the emotion is that why you want to be a russian citizen and know you're in a process of getting arrested and. that's about some of them and not proud to be i don't think you're a citizen of a country because just because you're born there i was born in the united states there's no you know dobson no doubt but i don't feel that it was my whole that's
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all my heart is were i don't believe you not love your country. i mean what is a country a country is a piece of land and people there's there's definitely people united states i love but i think there's a lot of great people there but i don't get here by the government or ministration or the imperialism at all and i'm ashamed to say you know i'm on a world you know when i travel i call i mean i said citizen because i have somebody connotations i go along with that and i don't agree with. you know what our governments do and so no i'm not proud to be united states and it was great to have me on this program thank you very much for this interview that's all for now folks our guest was mixed martial arts fighter jets months and i'll see the next mission .
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the media lead us so we need to be part of the scene to secure the. your party there's a goal. questions that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all on politics only on our t.v. . press and media freedom works nothing. when it comes to the interests of multinationals we have a media that is corrupted by power mostly by corporate power you have corporate ownership from the top corporate advertising coming in from the side we have a media that is where advertising and money and corporate influence is really the
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mother's milk a documentary filmmaker is being sued. for the truth has been told a private investigator. reading it happens people buy and sell those kind of services all over the world. hundreds of million dollar industry needs to protect its reputation a few million being spent on a campaign to do just that is probably goods money well spent. so what will be the verdict. big boy is going bananas. at least sixteen percent of imports came from illegal fishing. the european union is ironically taking fish from some of the poorest nations on earth so this is a very serious and very urgent problem that needs immediate international action. on the territorial waters they fish they load the fish into the ships and leave.
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illegal fishing is taking the bread out of our mouths. on november the fifth more than four hundred cities around the globe are hosting mass rallies for fairness justice and freedom. followed million men. march on our t. and t. dot com. we're not too active camps. where patients are. now. the world's attention that some. of our.
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iraq's prime minister also the world for help in fighting terror in his country is a look at the numbers which suggest there's been a rapid rise of insurgency across the whole planet. with growing calls for an end to u.s. drone attacks. the first thing that would go on a really long way to changing that situation is ending the regular drone strikes that take place on these countries. the taliban in pakistan is killed by an american unmanned aircraft with some reports suggesting that he's. killed with. fingers being pointed in the u.s. . spying on european leaders edward snowden says he's ready to share his knowledge of the n.s.a.'s activities with jim.

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